The Clone That Got Away

[joaoppereiraus]

Diane - Commission

[jwcartoonist-pre2022]

Everybody look at this cute piece of bacon!

[phillipfga]

Spreading out

Alright so… I’ve been putting off making this post for a while now but I think I gotta make it before it’s too late. 

With Tumblr being the incredible piece of media that it is, I find myself in the need to start spreading to other platforms in case my content is no longer safe. I had a few posts flagged, and while nothing severe, it isn’t a risk I’m willing to take on a platform run by innefficient bots. I don’t think I’ll erase this blog, but I’m not sure if I’m going to be posting my art here anymore. At the end of this post I’ll leave links to other places you can find me.

Now I need to mention the elephant in the room for a sec: Showtime with Whooves. The blog is technically not dead, but I’ve been focusing so much on getting my thesis out of the way this whole year that I’ve barely taken the time to do anything with it, and I’m not sure who’d be willing to keep reading it anymore. And now with this whole tumblr issue? I could start anew, with the same comic in a different website, or maybe an original idea, but the askblog format really allowed me for some fun viewer/character interactions, as such I’m gonna have either find a place where I can stick to a similar format or reformat the whole thing. I can assure this: Whatever happens to Showtime next year, it’s probably gonna radically change it (specially since I wanted to tackle some mature concepts…) 

So! If you really like my art and want to keep following me, stay updated on what I do or maybe see what future project I attempt, you can follow me in these links:

Deviant art (This is my old Deviantart, I’m gonna start posting some of my new art as I make more)

Twitter (Recently made, still getting the hang of it)

Pillowfort  (Recently made, still getting the hang of it)

I’ll have more, but for now those are the ones I have

[jwcartoonist-pre2022]

Follow this guy, he is awesome!

[theclonethatgotaway]

He made this!

Go follow him!

[jwcartoonist-pre2022]

First of all, I’m back.

Second of all… WELP! That announcement did it! That’s the straw that broke the camel’s back!

I’MMMMMMMMMMMMM OUTTA HERE!

At least, I’ll be out of here before the 17th. Before I leave for good I’m planning on creating backups of my several blogs and I suggest you do the same. Luckily most of my pony stuff has been archived on derpibooru (I knew those guys were good for something). I will be making one final post as a farewell of sorts, but till then I will not posting any new content on this website (there’s really no need for it anymore).

Once again, check me out at these links:

https://twitter.com/JW_Cartoonist

https://www.deviantart.com/joeywaggoner/

https://www.patreon.com/joeywaggoner

https://www.furaffinity.net/user/joeywaggoner/

https://curiouscat.me/JW_Cartoonist

[jwcartoonist-pre2022]

First of all, I’m back.

Second of all… WELP! That announcement did it! That’s the straw that broke the camel’s back!

I’MMMMMMMMMMMMM OUTTA HERE!

At least, I’ll be out of here before the 17th. Before I leave for good I’m planning on creating backups of my several blogs and I suggest you do the same. Luckily most of my pony stuff has been archived on derpibooru (I knew those guys were good for something). I will be making one final post as a farewell of sorts, but till then I will not posting any new content on this website (there’s really no need for it anymore).

Once again, check me out at these links:

https://twitter.com/JW_Cartoonist

https://www.deviantart.com/joeywaggoner/

https://www.patreon.com/joeywaggoner

https://www.furaffinity.net/user/joeywaggoner/

https://curiouscat.me/JW_Cartoonist

[jwcartoonist-pre2022]

Diane hugging a teddy bear.

Patreon request by @elosoquelee.

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[phillipfga]

I wanted to remember how to use Toon Boom, so I made a little animated Diane for @joeywaggoner. She a cutie.

[jwcartoonist-pre2022]

EVERYBODY! COME SEE WHAT PIP DID! HE MADE HER MOVE!

I COULD WATCH THIS FOR HOURS I’M SO HAPPY!

[jwcartoonist-pre2022]

((Day Reblog))

[jwcartoonist-pre2022]

Made a new model sheet for the new Pig version of Diane.

Also she has bacon hair now, this was something I stumbled upon while experimenting with the colors and I ending up liking it so much that I made it part of her new design. So yeah, Diane is now officially a bacon head.

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Donate to my Ko-Fi

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[jwcartoonist-pre2022]

((Day Reblog))

[phillipfga]

I wanted to remember how to use Toon Boom, so I made a little animated Diane for @joeywaggoner. She a cutie.

[jwcartoonist-pre2022]

EVERYBODY! COME SEE WHAT PIP DID! HE MADE HER MOVE!

I COULD WATCH THIS FOR HOURS I’M SO HAPPY!

[jwcartoonist-pre2022]

Made a new model sheet for the new Pig version of Diane.

Also she has bacon hair now, this was something I stumbled upon while experimenting with the colors and I ending up liking it so much that I made it part of her new design. So yeah, Diane is now officially a bacon head.

Support my stuff on Patreon

Donate to my Ko-Fi

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[jwcartoonist-pre2022]

Diane has a new model sheet. Check it out early by being a $1 supporter on Patreon!

Also become a patron for one dollar or more and get access to an exclusive Discord server.

[jwcartoonist-pre2022]

Diane has a new model sheet. Check it out early by being a $1 supporter on Patreon!

Also become a patron for one dollar or more and get access to an exclusive Discord server.

[jwcartoonist-pre2022]

((I can’t help but notice the more I draw piggie Diane the more chubbier she gets and I find that adorable.))

[jwcartoonist-pre2022]

I don't know why so many people are freaking out about the shift away from ponies, especially since piggy Diane is so cute. Seriously, I just wanna boop her little piggly wiggly snuggly wuggly nose.

[jitterbugjive]

I'm not sure who joey is, or what his blog is about as I don't follow it. But if this is mostly about the benvield derpy vs dotty thing I still don't feel like you got THAT much backlash for it. Like most of the negative feedback you got was "I prefer derpy, but dotty is cool too and I plan on reading it eather way". I know this because I've been following the progress on the dotty blog bc it interests me and I've been reading the notes. Unless I missed something or you have unpunished anon hate

Derpibooru people are throwing a fucking fit, I’ve had people nag me in my inbox that I didn’t publish, lost 300+ followers in 2 days. I’m not getting it as bad as Joey is though, the higher percentage of comments is people being disappointed and doing things like posting pictures of his Diane character on a gravestone saying “RIP PONY DIANE” and it’s just overall a very unpleasant reaction. He also lost multiple patrons after the announcement.

[jwcartoonist-pre2022]

Sad but true.

I haven’t seen people on Derpibooru throw a fit over the announcement, but I have notice something that’s bugged me.

For some backstory, Derpibooru has posted the “Clone” updates in the past (which I don’t mind as long as I’m credited and there’s a link to the original post), and on all of these Diane wasn’t labeled as an OC, their reason being that she’s based on one of the clones from the “Too Many Pinkie Pies” episode.

Recently they’ve posted the images of the pig version of Diane, and even there not only have they not tagged her as an OC, but they continue to tag her as “Pinkie Clone”!

THEY’RE NOT EVEN THE SAME SPECIES ANYMORE FOR CRYING OUT LOUD!

[jitterbugjive]

Dear Bronies

Stop treating artists like shit when they decide they want to do something original instead of ponies. Every fucking time a brony artist has done this, there’s a mass whiny reaction where they act like the artist has betrayed them.

They have been toiling away giving you free pony content for fucking years, and it can feel really empty after a while because we question “do people even give a shit about me, or do they only care about ponies?” You’ve had years of this stuff, you can look back at it, the content turning original doesn’t suddenly erase everything the artist put in to the original in fact it takes all of that effort and forms it in to something NEW and UNIQUE. This is a perfect opportunity for people to start up in a brand new potential fandom.

But it’s a sad slap of reality that yes, a huge chunk of these bronies are so far stuck up the pony assholes that they can’t accept any other variants, even if the characters and stories are the same it doesn’t matter to them.

All of you who keep doing this, who keep telling artists you’re “disappointed” in them for wanting to do something that will feel special and personal to them, all of you who turn away the moment you hear it won’t be ponies any more without even giving it a semblance of a chance because “WAAH IT’S NOT PONIES”? Those of you who think ‘if it’s not ponies, it’s complete crap’….

Do me a favor:

You’re nothing but shallow, childish assholes.

[the-green-anon]

I can’t help but feel this was partly promented by my ask to @joeywaggoner​ for some reason… If not, then the timing just was too random to make me think otherwise. Honestly I know of two blogs that were pony rebooting to become nonpony. And well, one of them I like the idea of it, the Dotty Blog that you’re working on that seems very neato given that at it’s core it seemed to be a very nonpony project that just started off with pony characters yet now is being retooled into something fresh & original.

While the other blog that I know of doing this Joey’s @theclonethatgotaway‘s retool, just for me felt wrong. Like it’s story felt very Pony at it’s core, making me wonder “why” this change is happening, and still feel like that i’m the only one that dislikes this change, just not understanding it despite my best efforts.

I hope i’m not to blame for this post, but either way, felt very attacked by it. 

[jitterbugjive]

It took Joey a long time to actually build up the courage to do this and the majority of reactions have been negative even though no one knows anything about the world he’s had in development for a REALLY long time now.

That kind of thing builds up and really stings over time because all it says is “people only cared because this was a pinkie pie clone, not about the character, art, or story concept”

Me and other friends have been working with him for a while now to figure how to rework the story because he’s been really bothered by people constantly mistaking Diane for just ‘another Pinkie Pie’ and he was so attached to the character and concept that he wanted to do something original with it rather than dedicate all his time to a fan project. He’s older now, leisurely time isn’t as easy to come by and he’s been doing pony fan content for half a decade now.

The idea of clones is not pony exclusive, the idea of a clone escaping a terrible fate doesn’t need ponies to make it work. At the story’s core, THAT is what it is, it’s not “Pinkie Pie’s Clone”, it’s “A terrified clone who’s in hiding and trying to find their own identity separate from where they originated from”

Which is exactly what the story itself is doing now, branching away from the show it was copied from and becoming an entirely new but still familiar thing.

You can literally replace the characters in the story with non-ponies and it wouldn’t change anything that much at all, so I don’t see why it needs ponies to be good.

[jwcartoonist-pre2022]

I do want to point out that @the-green-anon has since apologized for that ask he sent me earlier saying that he was a bit too harsh earlier and that he does “hope the best” when the reboot/retool comes out (though even if he didn’t apologize I would never want people to go attack him).

But still, the overall reaction the announcement of “Clone” becoming original has been rather discouraging for the reasons Jitters mentioned above. I did expect some backlash from the announcement, I just didn’t think the negative comments would outweigh the positive ones.

The majority of the cast in the blog weren’t even characters from the show, just characters that happened to be ponies and suddenly everybody feels like I just killed all of them off when I’m just giving them a redesign. I can only imagine how Jan Animations and the mod of Flufflepuff feel cause as bad as I’ve gotten it they probably have it much worse due to their bigger audience.

[jwcartoonist-pre2022]

Looking forward to the new direction of the Clone that got away! What can you tell us about Diane as she is in this "new" incarnation? What will change?

Her overall personality will remain the same, her overall goal will still be to become real, she’ll still be naive when it comes to knowing how the world works, she’ll still love acting, she’ll still have a crush on Spotlight, and she’ll be horrified of the one who killed all her sisters.

Really the only major difference between the new version and the old version is that she’s not pony.

As for any differences besides that… Well she’ll also be afraid of the idea of someone trying to eat her (pigs are quite the popular animal), and she’ll have a slow growing interest in fashion and dancing.

[theponyclonethatgotaway]

@reversalmushroom

That’s because during most of the blog’s run I was still in the middle of college, which took up a ton of my time, and I barely had any time to work on personal stuff. Thanks for the good luck message though.

@animeking7777

There’s really no need to worry. Pretty much everything I had planned for the pony blog will happen in the new reboot, just not as ponies and all with original characters.

Still there are a few ideas which won’t really translate over to the reboot, so at some point I will reveal those ideas in a future post.

Once again, thanks for the good luck.