Their Satanic Majesties Request
Released 8 December 1967
Chart Position #3
Side A 'Sing This All Together' • 'Citadel' • 'In Another Land' • '2000 Man' • 'Sing This All Together (See What Happens)'
Side B 'She's a Rainbow' • 'The Lantern' • 'Gomper' • '2000 Light Years from Home' • 'On with the Show'
thereisnoalgebra: Even before we began this project, I've always defended Their Satanic Majesties Request. As I said in our discussion of 'Dandelion', it hits a number of my sweet spots when it comes to Sixties pop. Yes, it can be a bit silly, and I won't call it one of their best releases, but I think that this album fits in well with the spirit of the time. I wouldn't put it on any sort of 'desert island discs' list, but there is something adorable about it.
auskultu: It's clear by now that I am something of a Stones contrarian—that I tend to enjoy the facets of the Stones others dismiss, and don't care for what those same people celebrate. It should be no surprise, then, that I agree with your assessment.
thereisnoalgebra: I'm so happy to hear that!
auskultu: Their Satanic Majesties Request is probably, as a whole, the LP that I am most fond of, at least of what we have listened to thus far. That's not to say that there aren't problems with the album, as we'll discuss later, but when it works, it really crackles for me.
I should mention that, as with all previous releases, we listened to the mono version of the LP, rather than the widely available stereo version. I recommend that to anyone skeptical of the album: as is so often the case with Sixties albums, the mono mix packs a much harder punch, which really enhances songs like 'Citadel'. The stereo mix, by comparison, sounds desiccated and feeble.
thereisnoalgebra: 'Sing This All Together' isn't a song so much as a groove or 'feel', something common to a few of the tracks here. I like it, though the middle section could have used some trimming.
auskultu: I liked the coke bottle percussion, the attempt to branch out into other musical textures. The lyrics are hippy-dippy, which doesn't quite fit the Stones, but it works. Standard issue psychedelic wonderment. I don't care for Jagger's vocal, which sounds rather strained to me.
thereisnoalgebra: I am a bit worried there won't be too much to say about many of these tracks, precisely became many of them are loosely structured grooves or jam experiments rather than composed songs. I have the feeling this may be a short entry. Which is ironic, considering how much we liked it.
auskultu: 'Citadel' is one of my favorite Stones songs ever. Evil garage psychedelia! It's the best track on the LP: tinges of acid but retaining the core 'rock' of the Stones. Amazing riff, great organ, with a lurching tempo that reminds me of 'My Obsession'. It sometimes sounds a bit of a blob of sound, thanks to the muddled production, but so what!
thereisnoalgebra: That riff is genius. And the drums are lot more notable on this album.
auskultu: I even like the lyrics! Very symbolic, fairy tale-ish, as was common to British psychedelia.
thereisnoalgebra: 'In Another Land' is a nice try, it's charming, but…
auskultu: It's slagged off as a silly, stupid bit of fluff, and I can see where that comes from, with its 'Lucy in the Sky With Diamonds' lyrics, the psychedelia-by-the-numbers arrangement. I'm actually quite fond of it, though! The chorus is an all-time Stones moment for me.
thereisnoalgebra: The chorus definitely rescues the song. And maybe it wouldn't be so good if the verse weren't so slight. Is this Wyman's first attempt at a song? Not so bad. Was a US single, I think.
auskultu: It's a highlight of the album, for sure: the crashing guitars, the excellent backing vocals from Jagger: 'I opened my eye-yi-yi-yi-yis...' I can see, though, how Stones purists would consider this the absolute nadir of the band, the epitome of trend-chasing.
thereisnoalgebra: Which is so funny, as Jagger seems to have such disdain for trend-chasers.
'2000 Man' always has me humming 'Death of a Clown' over it.
auskultu: Yes, it does. I'd never realised the extent that the Kinks influenced the Stones—barring their early garage days, the Kinks seemed so much the polar opposite of the rough and wild Stones. Anyway, it's a more traditional song after the fanciful likes of 'Sing This All Together'—no odd sound effects or jamming. Another strong chorus, as well, with its chunky organ.
thereisnoalgebra: I love the line 'Though my wife still respects me, I really misuse here / I am having an affair with a random computer'. Is that not a perfect summary of any interaction between Mick Jagger and a woman?
auskultu: I should add here that the word 'computer', in its usage here, refers not to a machine but to a person. Programming used to be considered menial women's work, on par with filing, until the men in the field wanted to increase their own prestige and consequently filter women out of it. (See here.
thereisnoalgebra: I prefer to think of it as some sort of Videodrome scenario, actually, so will continue to read it as referring to a machine!
auskultu: 'Sing This All Together (See What Happens)' makes me hesitate from declaring this a truly great album. I dig the first few minutes: it establishes a nice groove. Around the four minute mark, it completely loses the plot, devolving into listless jamming. Well, not even that: jamming implies some sort of variation on a melody. This is more like children bashing on instruments, and it goes on for a further eight minutes.
It's here that the circumstances of the album's recording intrude. This period saw the Stones frequently in and out of court on various drug charges, leading to an even more haphazard and disjointed creative process than usual. Rarely did the entire band record as a unit. Apparently, as late as a month before the LP's release, there was little useable. It's easy, then, to see a track like this as the musical equivalent of papering over the holes. 'We'll stick some odd sounds here to fill out the running time.'
thereisnoalgebra: There's a cruel part where the vocals come in and you think the song is finished, only for it to go for another minute or so. The track amounts to nothing.
auskultu: 'She's a Rainbow' is probably the only song most people recall from this album, if only because of those iMac commercials. Released as a single here in America, I believe. As lovely as it is, the track is rather thin: occasionally Jagger pops in, but is mostly repeats of the introductory piano or a variation on it.
thereisnoalgebra: I love when the strings come in. We read an Esquire review that said, 'When Jagger sings, "She comes in colors", you have every right to infer a psychedelic orgasm; when Donovan sings, "…and come if you can", you know it's only for tea.' But I never read the song as sexual.
auskultu: Me neither. I'd say this is their least sexual album yet.
thereisnoalgebra: There's no erotic component, lyrically. Or even musically. It's all very sweet, to the degree that it sounds odd to hear Jagger being so nice, as it was on 'Dandelion'.
Jack White seems to have ripped the intro of 'Love Interruption' from 'The Lantern'.
auskultu: I can't make up my mind on 'The Lantern'. At first, I dismissed it as something of a drag, as it essentially rides the same bit for the length of the song. At the same time, that bit is quite interesting the first few times one hears it, and there's something I like about Jagger's delivery, even with the of-its-time 'Far Eastern' lyrics. One can hear the seeds of Beggars Banquet in the acoustic guitar work.
thereisnoalgebra: With the exception of 'Sing This All Together', I even enjoy the filler on this album. It may be slight, but an interesting diversion, if nothing else. It's more a shrug than boredom.
auskultu: 'Gomper' is another interesting idea marred by lack of editing. The first few minutes are the biggest deviation from the standard Stones sound that we have heard yet. Psychedelia fell hard for Eastern culture in 1967, so it was inevitable it would turn up here, especially given Brian Jones' interest in Morocco. Had it ended at the three minute mark, I would be much fonder of it; instead, it wears out its welcome with an additional two minutes of messing about.
In retrospect, though, I realize that this essentially a mash-up of 'Matilda Mother' and 'Chapter 24' from Pink Floyd's The Piper at the Gates of Dawn.
thereisnoalgebra: I'm not as forgiving as you; I think, even shorter, it would be 'psychedelia by the numbers', and exists largely because they were high as balls and having to rush something to record.
I absolutely love '2000 Light Years From Home', though. Everything you feel about 'Citadel', I feel about this one. I remember hearing it for the first time on a MySpace profile and having no idea it was the Stones, and just finding it so fascinatingly bizarre, which led me to this album.
auskultu: It is very space rock.
thereisnoalgebra: There's been quite a bit of that on this record. I think they temporarily swapped misogyny for the cosmos.
auskultu: Like so many tracks, though, I maintain it could have been trimmed down by at least a minute. Still, it is a very successful example of the type of exploration they were aiming for when going into this project.
Sadly, that brilliance is completely dumped on by 'On with the Show', an embarrassing attempt at whimsy that seems based completely on the spoken word bit of 'Magical Mystery Tour'. I had a fondness for 'Something Happened to Me Yesterday', but once is enough.
We've discussed the tracks themselves, so let's talk about the album itself, as a whole. Their Satanic Majesties Request is notoriously regarded as the worst entry in the Stones' catalogue until the Eighties, an ill-conceived attempt to capitalise on the times. We obviously have a higher opinion, but do you think its reputation is deserved? Do you think it would have been better received had a band other than the Rolling Stones released it? In other words, do you think the album is bashed because of its contents, or because a band so identified with blues and what would be known as 'classic rock' released it?
thereisnoalgebra: That is a tricky one. We both rate Their Satanic Majesties Request highly, but I don't think either of us would claim it's some unfairly maligned work of genius: as clear by our complaints about jamming and length, it's as patchy as all their other albums. So critics certainly have some ground to stand on. However, I think more abuse is heaped on it because it is antithetical to the Stones' blues rock style. Again, all their albums are patchy, so why harp on this one anymore than, say, Aftermath, which had fewer highlights?
auskultu: Perhaps the change came too suddenly. One can see the progression from Rubber Soul to Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band, where as the Stones seemed to careen from the relatively straight 'Let's Spend the Night Together' to 'Dandelion', hence the charges of cashing in, or of it not being genuine.
And as we noted above, this is certainly the least sexual of their albums, because British psychedelia isn't very sexual in general: I can't help but think that, for the section of fans who liked them for their bad boy aggressive sexuality, this turn seems an emasculation. Add to that the blues purists who also are alienated by the lack of any African-American influence and I can see why it would be judged harsher than it may deserve.
That's not to say criticism isn't warranted—I don't think this is a lost masterpiece. I like it quite a bit as a whole, but as discussed above, individual tracks can be quite a drag. Still, is there anyone who would rather listen to, say, Bridges to Babylon?
Time to address the major charge. Do you think that Their Satanic Majesties Request is merely a rip-off of Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band? If so, do you think Jagger and Richards set out to consciously imitate it? Or is that just lazy, received wisdom?
thereisnoalgebra: Yes and no. I don't think they set out to copy Sgt. Pepper specifically, but did feel the need to keep up with their peers, even if they didn't particularly have a fresh angle on it. The Stones strike me as the little brothers of the scene—especially of the Beatles—where they are tagging along: witness the aping of Rubber Soul and Face to Face on Between the Buttons. That isn't necessarily a criticism, though! Plenty of bands are still influenced by, say, the Beatles—I can't imagine how much stronger that pull would be when the band was still active. It would have been odder for the Stones not to change with the times, to still be doing 'Little Red Rooster' in 1967. I think that people do a disservice to the band when proclaiming them merely blues rockers, even if they mean it as a complement. They may not have been very good at experimenting, but they at least tried, and it took those so-called 'dead ends' to reveal their actual niche.
auskultu: That's an excellent point. We've talked a fair amount of trend-hopping and fads during this project, and I recently heard a remark that gave me pause for thought. I believe it was a documentary on the history of the album, or perhaps simply albums in the Sixties. At any rate, a musician from that time said one must remember that most albums were regarded like newspapers or magazines: they reflected the here and now, and then one moved onto the next release. Not disposable, per se, but definitely of the the moment. Few bands expected that people would be poring over their albums in forty years, especially as rock itself was barely a decade old. And certainly a band as cavalier as the Stones weren't fretting over their 'canon' or how an album might fit into their body of work—rather, it was record this batch of songs, do a tour, move on, like a shark. So perhaps I should keep that in mind, if I start to judge too harshly.
thereisnoalgebra: The Beatles, of course, also the advantage of George Martin…
auskultu: Oh, certainly. Just in terms of how Sgt. Pepper sounds—its fidelity, its audio quality—it sounds quite modern, whereas Revolver has that trebly, flatter sound of 1960s recordings. The covers capture that perfectly for me: from Revolver to Sgt. Pepper seems like moving from black and white to color, even if I prefer Revolver.
Anyway, the point is that psychedelia of Their Satanic Majesties Request is hampered by the usual lack of production quality and sonic detail. When high, there are lots of details to fixate on in Sgt. Pepper, whereas the Stones' LP can be a bit of a mush.
Also, is Sgt. Pepper the most accurate comparison? I think the broad range of styles on that LP embodies the spirit of psychedelia, but it often does not sound that trippy. Yes, 'Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds', but the likes of 'Getting Better' are rather straight-forward. More to the point, I'd love to see the look of befuddlement on the faces of the hippies straining for cosmic wisdom and hearing 'When I'm Sixty-Four' instead!
If we must compare it to the Beatles, I'd opt for Magical Mystery Tour, but I hear a lot more of Pink Floyd's The Piper at the Gates of Dawn. Compare the jamming in 'Sing This All Together (See What Happens)' to 'Interstellar Overdrive', or 'Astronomy Domine'—very similar.
thereisnoalebra: That explains the space rock. And, in a lovely bit of serendipity, let's not forget that The Piper at the Gates of Dawn were recorded at Abbey Road at the same time the boys were working on Sgt. Pepper. Didn't Paul drop in on the sessions or something?
thereisnoalgebra: I think we can both conclude that, while bearing the flaws that every Stones album seems to have, Their Satanic Majesties Request has gotten a bad rap over the years. It's definitely not the embarrassment that fans—and the band itself—make it out to be. And considering that we next examine the 'back to basics' phase of the Rolling Stones, this album is a fascinating look down a road not taken.