every time i open Joanna's wiki page i chuckle. we do not know her birth year, only other dates in her life. like the year she became a lady in waiting in kingslanding. 259 AC. the year she wed Tywin. 263 AC. when she had her first children. 266 AC. the year she had her third and died. 273 AC. the years she might have been born in range from 244 AC to 252 AC. 252 AC. you wish to tell me that the only person anyone ever cares to mention Tywin felt love and affection for, mourns his whole life, becomes an even worse person without, was seven when she became a lady in waiting to the peincess? eleven when they married? fourteen when she had their first children? twenty-one when she died? it would mean he is fifteen years her elder. i don't think so. i know she was born closer to the beginning of the displayed range, but it just cracks me up every time.