I'm not on twitter but what did fundy suposedly do that's so bad?
um, i'll be going over the three things 5up discussed on his stream (x)
fundy made some really inappropriate jokes about unconsensual sexual activities in a jackbox stream. he then prepared a stream to apologize for it, which i think he handled pretty good. i think by context alone you can tell that these are edgy jokes shared between friends, except that fundy forgot that the whole thing was being shared on a public platform lol. although he didn't have bad intentions, it was clearly an insensitive thing that he shouldn't have said on stream and he apologized accordingly.
here video. this one is the one that people reference the most to my knowledge, and it happened that in one stream that fundy is having a humorous convo with phill, he brings up how people will make stupid noises to imitate a gorilla and then he goes on to say that it's "racist". i get how it's easy to take it away from context but people don't take into account that english is not fundy's first language and he's from the netherlands too. this clip shows that there's other occasions in which fundy has referred to certain animals as "races". it's just him using the unfortunate example of a gorilla for it, which is usually used as a caricature to discriminate against black people. but context of the thing shows that he was humorously indicating that the imitation of the animal was so bad that it was "offensive" - again, there's a thing called a "hyperbole" and it's also a funny manner of speech.
intentions wise, it's clear that he never referred to black people in the first place (story had absolutely nothing to do with them in any way) and it takes like one minute to understand where he's coming from. however, it's really easy to twist this clip to mean what you want it to mean so, eh, unfortunate.
3. interjects/systems and fundy's discord
it was really hard to find proof for this on for some reason??? but here is what i found. basically, mods in fundy's discord made a rule against people with DID/OSDD to take roles of fundy and various other content creators. the argument of why it was wrong is that of course, you cannot expect people who suffer from DID and OSDD to have some sort of control over their alters. moreover, the mods made this rule upon an outburst of people who claimed to be systems as well, which people read as pointing fingers at systems and saying that they're only doing it for the trend. i think... this issue is particularly nuanced and there's not really a definite answer about it. the rules are there to make modding easier and assure a better discord for everyone involved, but the way some things were worded make it seem like they're treating DID as a new twitter trend. however, i believe what they mods said about the spike of people using alters on discord roles and names, and it's tricky to know who's doing it because they effectively suffer of the disorder, or if it's people who simply do it because they think it's fun. even things like self-diagnosing are tricky to discuss and have in mind when it comes to these things.
in the part of "hey how does this relate to fundy", i read that he's treated systems as "twitter trends" himself... which i honestly believe it's a reach because otherwise i would've found something about it lol. his behavior about his mods has been of ignoring the situation and umodding other people for other reasons/situations, at least that's what i read and what i'm inclined to believe is closer to the truth. certainly it's not something that pertains to fundy himself but more of the people he's allowed to mod his discord, which ....eh. if people want to cancel fundy, they'll take anything they can. right off the bat, calling the mods "ableist" is a reach and it doesn't help at all to actually find a solution to this entire situation.
EDIT: some people messaged me to include how fundy addressed the situation. i'm guessing he posted a twitlonger that i couldn't find anymore (good for her tbh) and here are some excerpts:
"...[the rule] went against my back. [...] The mod that has condoned this rule has been stripped from its status and removed from the mod team."
so looks like this was never fundy's idea from the first place, and then he took care of it afterwards. makes the whole "fundy is ableist" claim even more of a reach.
lastly, here's a video where 5up briefly mentions what happened with fundy. i just include it because i think he has fair takes on it, and it might help to clarify situations if you need it.
Transcription: "[reading chat] "Fundy getting shit on for nothing"? No, here's what I will say. Fundy got shit on... sometimes, justifiably. He got the shit he deserved for the jackbox thing. And he apologized for it, and he understands what he did wrong. Fundy did not deserve any shit for the gorilla thing, and people still call him racist."
"[reading chat] "It's also a matter of people taking things out of context"? Oh, a 100%. People are saying Fundy compared black people to gorillas, when that, like. Do you, do you [laughs] if you listen to the clip, that wasn't even mentioned even remotely! It's just- it's like third-hand information."
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