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I did a sociology project on thin privilege recently and got an excellent grade! I'm glad to know that a professor, someone with a doctorates and a scholarly perspective has a hard time standing behind the hypocrisy of thin privilege, and agrees with the philosophy that it does not exist at all. I might also add that this professor is a vivaciously plump woman herself.

When I have the time, I'll publish my research onto this blog for archive. I did some cross-sectional research that I think a lot of people will find interesting, both thin privilege and non-thin privilege advocates.

There are a lot of unanswered questions on this blog and one day I'll get to them all. I'm terribly sorry, this school term has been particularly hellish for me as I am taking on twice the number of credit hours which is recommended, or normal for a functional human being.

Thanks everyone who is still following, or recently followed! I really appreciate all of the questions and stories.

This is NOT thin privilege turned 1 today!

#tumblr birthday

TiTP

“BUT WHAT IF I’M JUST NOT ATTRACTED TO FAT PEOPLE? WHY SHOULD I FEEL GUILTY ABOUT THAT? HOW THAT IS THAT THIN PRIVILEGE?”

Thin privilege exists on the societal level. When at people (mainly women) are being seen, in aggregate, as less-worthwhile dating and marriage material than thin people, being rejected for daring to be fat is fat discrimination and hence being seen as better dating material by virtue of being this is thin privilege.

Dating while fat generally puts you at a disadvantage in a fatphobic culture, as if the likelihood of being a good partner has something to do with the amount of adipose tissue on one’s body (of course, it doesn’t).

Not to mention that dating sites usually have you state up front in your profile whether you’re fat or not, and there’s an option for people to select if being fat is a ‘deal-breaker’ in a potential partner, and there’s a whole meme about how fat people, usually women, pretend to be thinner on their profiles in order to ‘ensnare’ poor, fatphobic hot dudes.

This is literally a thing, you guys. This is LITERALLY a thing. If you are not attracted to someone who is fat you are fatphobic and it isn't right for you to feel this way because society has made you feel this way. Not to mention that TiTP response to the FAQ doesn't even answer the actual question, but instead goes on babbling about how in someway they felt victimized because of a dating website and a "hot dude". The depth of their philosophy is just staggering, really.

There are MAJOR psychological and biological factors that contribute to attraction; social influences would not be able to change someones initial attraction. That really is as simple as saying that because on a societal scale homophobia is still widely renowned, homosexuals are going to start becoming homophobic and suddenly lose all attraction to the same sex. Does anyone from TiTP even do their research? I feel so sorry for the people who buy into this crap.

#titp #thin privilege

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Thin privilege is not having almost every add on every YouTube video you watch start off as a sweet, inspirational message about healthy eating, set to calming music, only to end with the phrase “helping change the shape of Australia”. Thin privilege is not having...

I literally cannot believe their post about WiC. As someone who has been on the program, the food they cover and allow for is more than enough for someone to live on. The sense of entitlement emanating off that post, when someone also overweight managed just fine on it, just blew my mind. I realize she has an infant, but seriously. Seven gallons of milk, and thats not enough? Thats almost 2 gallons a week...

I just read it and what upset me is "body policing" being in the tags. How is that body policing? I'm with you in saying that the post seemed really entitled and snobby, and it seriously has nothing to do with fat acceptance whatsoever. That is also more than enough food. Her infant would not even be eating this food, she would be the only consumer considering that they provide formula.

I don't understand how that isn't enough for one person or what it has to do with body policing at all. I wonder if TiTP even reads over the posts people submit. That blog is such a whine fest, it literally gives me a headache.

I'm a girl who is usually in the "high average" part of the BMI. Recently I gained some weight as a result of medication changes and stress, but I'm only slightly overweight and I'll probably be "normal" in a few weeks if I eat better and walk more. But Tumblr has me thinking... Where does one draw the line between "feeling beautiful at any size" and "fat acceptance?" I know I'm overweight and I want to be healthy, but I still want to feel pretty right now. -continued

-continued: Where does Tumblr draw the line between "feeling pretty, no matter what one's size," and "saying that obesity isn't a problem?" I'm torn between feeling embarassed about my weight, and feeling pressured to "accept my disorder." I don't want to lose weight to look a certain way- I just want to be a little healthier. I don't even know what to think anymore.

There's absolutely nothing wrong with losing weight to be a little healthier. There's nothing wrong with any of us trying to be healthier! Not many of us are being as healthy as we could be (including myself) and that should never be something one should accept. If you KNOW that your weight gain is from medication changes and stress, then it is clearly not healthy for you. I don't believe in fat acceptance when it threatens or disregards your health. If someone is overweight and perfectly healthy, then that's a different story. Where health issues are concerned, a healthier lifestyle in general should be considered. You can do this without it being a "weight" issue, make it simply a health issue for yourself.

And to answer the question about obesity, there is nothing okay about being obese. The very definition of obese suggests that the excess of fat may be a danger to your health, so in no way will that word ever be positive nor should it ever be accepted. That is not fat acceptance. I'm all for being a naturally bigger or fat person when it has no effect on your health, but if you become overweight unnaturally (e.g, overeating, developing a disorder, in your case medication and stress) then it's common knowledge that this is unhealthy and it isn't something you should embrace when you very well could be shortening years of your life.

Good luck!

you know what pisses me off the most about titp? it's not even that they compare the ~oppression~ of fat people to the oppression black people have gone through, but that they straight-up are a danger. for example, they advised veup NOT TO BELIEVE her DOCTOR who said she needed to lose weight because of sleep apnea, and a few months later, after weight loss, she felt a lot better. titp is actually dangerous - they're not doctors, they simply use bullshit, biased studies.

I've mentioned this before. They don't hold factual debates but rather opinion based debates which just doesn't cut it when you're trying to denounce a whole entire weight class while doing so. If you're going to stand up for something so extreme, at least use more of a foundation to go off of than forever21 not having your size, or being made fun of (who hasn't been). There is nothing in that that suggests someone is not socially privileged.

When someone is overweight and deemed unhealthy by a doctor it's discrimination. People of every size are told they are unhealthy every single day, and yes this is largely affected by a persons diet, no matter their size. We have a terrible food industry that is essentially killing us all slowly--TiTP should do their research before they go advertising that their followers stuff their faces as some kind of liberation.

On that same note, people are also DENIED healthcare every single day because most healthcare systems only care about money, and that issue is completely grand scale. All of their "factual" reasoning for thin privilege to exist are not fat specific at all. I really could go on and on because it infuriates me too.

#titp #thin privilege

Hello, I don't really troll very often and don't quite know how to go about it (not trying to be a wise ass) so I guess I just wanna say that I disagree with you and find your arguments simplistic and largely devoid of cultural perspective. I understand where you're coming from, as someone who weighs 120 pounds and also once had an eating disorder and therefore a skewed outlook, but I very strongly believe that you are wrong. That's all, thanks!

Civil disagreements are most welcome, but why bring up trolling? I'm confused as to whether or not you meant this to be offensive.

In response to a recent TiTP post about redefining the word gluttony--what they hell else is it supposed to mean? You can't just change the definition of a word just because you don't like what it originally means. Gluttony consists if having enough money to feed yourself more than you actually need, thus resulting in a person becoming overweight. This is why most Americans and Europeans are so unhealthy because they have the money that other countries do not have to feed themselves excessively.

I didn’t see this post until now and I understand what you mean. I don’t like when people try to “redefine” something with a standard definition and not just a connotation in society. Gluttony has always been portrayed as such, and the seven deadly sins have been stagnant since the beginning of Christian mysticism. Is this supposed to change because as of modern times—quite the opposite of times during that period where a fat person typically was an overly capacious person—the majority of First World citizens are overweight? If someone develops a time machine maybe we can go back and change social standards of the 300’s?

TiTP has a knack for throwing logic right out of the window.

#thisisnotthinprivilege #thisisthinprivilege #godsdreamjournal

I've never really gotten the chance to address why, originally, TITP plagued me with despondence. I do remember taking a lot of time to analyze the issue from every angle. I'm not one to jump to a conclusion solely based off of my own emotional discord, but from the beginning it struck me the wrong way.

After reading this part of their FAQ, I began to gain more perspective as to why. It was this passage specifically that stood out to me.

The first is that being told to go eat a sandwich or being forced to take in a baggy pair of pants is not oppression. Privilege is institutional; it doesn’t always resolve to the individual level. Privileged people have problems. They might even experience some of the same problems oppressed people have. But in no way do they experience the oppression of the underprivileged.

The word institutional perfectly describes body oppression (note that I said body oppression and not singularly fat body oppression). It has been stated on this blog several times that I feel the media and government contributes to body oppression. We can all 100% agree on this, I'm sure.

The only division here that keeps all of us from jumping up, clapping, shouting "YEAH!" with our chests out and fist in the air, is the last sentence.

But in no way do they experience the oppression of the underprivileged.

Okay, yeah that is fair when talking about other oppressions, but it doesn't apply to "thin privilege". This is the part where I got kind of angry and wanted to stop reading so badly because I knew what was to come next, but I continued forward.

Secondly, thin shaming is in no way comparable to what fat people go through.

And this is the sentence, that stopped me from jumping onto the thin privilege wagon. I'm sorry, but to be frank, what the fuck? The word "thin shaming" aside, what about body shaming in general? For the life of me, I still can't understand this backwards philosophy.

They mention that oppression is INSTITUTIONAL, therefore stating that condemning less than ideal body types is an INSTITUTIONAL issue. That means diet media and government superfluous on health and body type is INSTITUTIONAL.

I'm not going to repeat myself a thousand times on this blog, but I've stated before and graphed out the percentage of people who are naturally thin and it's staggeringly low (like, you'd be shocked right of your hair follicles, that's how low it is.)

You cannot look at a thin person and snidely think "That person is privileged, look how thin they are!" when behind closed doors they could very well be starving themselves and spending over 8 hours a day working out because of INSTITUTIONAL body shaming. It's nearly impossible with our food industry for most people to not experience excessive weight gain (strongly encourage those of TITP to do some research on the dangers of mainstream food) being that most people are not naturally thin.

I'm not saying that gaining weight is the end of the world either, but it seems that this fear is bread due to our media, government, and fat shaming. That means that more than half of the populace is killing themselves everyday to meet this "ideal" standard of beauty that seems to fluctuate and change every decade.

Normally I wouldn't butt into the business of what one oppressed group does over another, but I feel like "thin privilege" not only has a negative effect on thin people, but it negatively affects fat people as well and all of what's in between. "Thin privilege" glorifies being thin just like the media does, but in such a horrible way that people honestly believe it's helping their self image.

TITP should take their own advice. Privilege is in fact institutional, and it is not resolved to an individual.

#thin privilege #thisisnotthinprivilege #fat shaming

Sorry to do this anonymously, but I myself don't have a tumblr. I just wanted to say how much I've enjoyed reading your blog. It's real hard to find somebody with an open mind on Tumblr, and I'm happy to have found this. You make a fair point, and if this is how well you usually make a presentation you needn't feel anxious at all. As much as I'd like to see you continue, it's nice to hear you chose to focus on your schoolwork. Truly commendable. All the best of luck, and thank you once again!

Wow, thank you. :)

Summer is fast approaching so I'm sure I'll start posting more!

I love this blog so much and I hope that if you decide to stop posting that you'll consider handing it down to someone because if it disappears I will be so sad. Thank you for promoting reason and acceptance despite all the hate and martyrdom on this website.

Ahhh ! You’re welcome. My only concern with allowing someone else to take over is that I don’t want my message to get misconstrued. I don’t want to be a fat bashing blog or another body-negative blog like TITP.

That could happen easily so I’m really hesitant to give someone else the duty of running it. I’d rather keep this as more of an archive than have someone destroy the meaning of it.

Hopefully one day though. It would be nice to have some help.

#thin privilege #thisisnotthinprivilege #fever-moon

"Thin privilege" almost killed me. When I was younger, I had a traumatic experience and was unable to eat for months. I ended up in a hospital for over a year, put on and off of life support. I dropped to 35 pounds, and subsequently went through a year of eating-disorder therapy that was impossibly stressful. I came back to school and was taunted for my weight more than usual. I still have a hard time swallowing food, I'm still dangerously thin, and I'm still self conscious about my body.

I'm so sorry this happened to you, dear. :(

TITP doesn't really consider the harm their page may cause others (both thin and fat). They seem really blind to the fact that no matter how you look at the message they're trying to convey, it will always translate negatively.

#thin privilege #thisisnotthinprivilege

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Dear Target,

Fuck you very much.

For the longest time, being a busy mother and previously living in a crappy small town, your store was pretty much the only place that got my clothing business. I hate Hate HATE anything khaki, suburban looking, mom-ish. That’s just me. Those of you out there who...

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I get really disappointed and lose a little bit of hope each time I browse the thin privilege tag and see someone complaining about not being able to fit into a standard clothing size.

I'm all for intersectionality but I think the difference between someone whining over a clothing brand and someone who is unable to afford clothes at all is too big of an intersection to cross over. It's actually amazing to see oppression being spelled out in the name of Target (which is fairly overpriced, and I would venture so far as to say a luxury), and how trite you make "thin privilege" out to be when used under these circumstances.

I would really hate to see what you'd say about privilege in general if you were ever literally unable or forced into doing something against your will by means of survival. It isn't "thin privilege" to be able to fit into clothing at Target, it's you don't have to shop at a store that is more expensive than even more fashionable stores you can find anywhere, including online, just so that you can complain later when you can't fit into anything.

You clearly don't even know what privilege means.

Well

I haven't posted on this blog in over a month for the following reasons.

School started

A lack of motivation

add in a little dash of disgust

and to top it all off, a bunch of useless anxieties

I started this blog as a sort of outlet for my frustrations concerning the thin privilege tag. It quickly became something that others could agree with as well, which made me very happy. When school started it sort of fell off to the wayside, but I still browsed and answered questions whenever I could.

I think the turning point of when my motivation began to fall, was reading a certain post (I cannot cite you to it, but yeah) on thin privilege. Something about it rubbed me in all the wrong ways and made me feel a bit horrible about myself, and my view point. I started to question if I just wasn't being grateful enough for my body type, and if I did in fact, have thin privilege. I got confused, but that only lasted for a little while.

The confusion was replaced with disgust. This is going to be broad, but basically, disgust for the entire activist community on Tumblr. There are so many people on here I simply cannot take seriously, and so many people willing to play the oppressed that it's sickening. When I think of global issues in comparison to some of the things Tumblr users complain about, I start to shake my head. It isn't something I want to be a part of.

I understand that weight issues and fat stigma are really bad. I'm not comparing issues, but personally I'd rather focus on larger issues rather than go about senseless debates with people who are only interested in talking about how oppressed they are (angrily, at that) and causing more segregation between weight classes. It feels like a dead end to me. Furthermore, I realized, I don't have much respect for anyone who can only sit around and complain about their body image issues--and then go so far as to blame it on people without actually making a consecutive difference to the cause.

It seems more like nurturing insecurities to me, which I find extremely self centered. Some people complain about not being able to fit a pair of jeans, some people complain about not having anything to eat and starving to death. So, you get the point? America as a country is privileged. We are the definition of privileged, and yet, we seem to be the main people hollering about how not-privileged we are. I find things like this disgusting and I'm not ashamed or too polite to say so. Reading that makes me want to punch my own self in the face, to be blunt. I'm sick of seeing shit about privilege when most people don't understand what it means to be at a true disadvantage (chances are if you live in America and you are a young adult, you don't know what that means). I could go on and on...

Anyway, finally. The last reason why I haven't been posting on here anymore is because of my anxiety. I deal with a lot of anxiety issues, and only a small margin of them are social anxiety issues. I don't typically suffer from that, unless it's having to do with presentation. This blog to me is a presentation, a project, etc. I tend to be a perfectionist when it comes to things like this, and when I feel as if I cannot contribute something cohesively I tend not to contribute at all.

I stopped signing in here all together for my health and sanity. Just thinking about the blog made me nervous and anxious, on top of the fact that school + life in general were making me feel that way enough. Now, I'm not saying I'm abandoning the blog all together. I still plan to engage in debate here if I find something particularly outrageous, but it will be far and few between. You're still welcome to leave me messages! I promise to answer them all.

#fat stigma #thin privilege #privilege

Weetz and lookoutpinkie should not be viewed as representatives of the Fat Acceptance movement. They are racist, whiney assholes. However, you obviously do not know a whole lot about thin privilege (ie not being discriminated against for jobs, housing, and health insurance for being fat). I do not think you really understand social privilege. It does not mean the privileged have perfect lives, it just means that they have an unearned advantage.

I understand it completely. I’m not at an unearned advantage for being thin. I’ve not once experienced this; I have no health insurance, my doctors blame my iron deficiency on lack of a nutritional full diet and so I have to drink prescribed ”special shakes”. Even though I’ve told them several times my mother has an iron deficiency where her body doesn’t absorb iron properly, they dismiss me because of my weight.

If a thin person does feel they are at an advantage because of their weight, then fine—that’s their life. See, when something can be entirely relative and not factual at all, you cannot say it “exists” in such a way that it is supposed to impact everyone and make them reconsider their views. My view of my body changed drastically whenever I found out about thin privilege. I honestly had no clue what kind of advantage you were all talking about, so trust that since then, I’ve done my research and still: I have absolutely no idea what advantage you are all talking about.

The advantage does not exist, and fat people are not hindered from obtaining said “advantage” in any way so they are not at a disadvantage either unless they are disabled/handicapped in some way.

I’m not saying you aren’t oppressed. You are oppressed more than a thin person might be and fat has a negative connotation in today’s society (but at the same time, so many different body types are considered fat and to be the ideal thin is an extremely unrealistic standard 98% of the world does not meet; models even go to the extremes of starving themselves at times, and the same fat stigma that effects fat people is why numerous people of every body type suffers from eating disorders). I just don’t understand how anyone can be body positive but then say so many negative things about their own body type and praise another in the same breath.

It’s like all the things that may have brainwashed you in the media, like everyone else—It’s pretty much the same mantra: be perfect—have lead you to create thin privilege thing. It’s like media brainwash on crack because you guys literally believe thin people have some sort of advantage in society simply because they are thin. It’s as if you now accept the message sent out to you and you want to advertise it in an attempt of reverse psychology. It doesn’t work that way.

You can’t tell me that it’d be okay to raise a child saying. “People are going to be disgusted at your arms if you wear that bikini to the beach, because that is how society works, and thin people have privilege.” You cannot tell me that is a positive message.

At this point, if agreeing with thin privilege works for you and makes you accept your body type more, go for it. But I know a lot of people who have felt antagonized because of that blog and that negative message (people both thin and fat) and that is who my blog is for.

I’m glad we agree that they’re whiny assholes.

#thin privilege #fat acceptance

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I think it’s important to realize that being an activist or a strong supporter of a certain cause (often times something relative to that individual) does not mean only actively pursuing the improvement of...

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I refuse to read your recent reply, mainly because I have 0 respect for your point of view based off of your last reply, but also because you suggested that I'm not black. You called me a liar. If you would like some semblance of proof, my main tumblr is here (picture of me there). My mother is half black half native american and white, and my father is 100% black. Your blog is a joke, you shouldn't be attempting to run one. You really are a disgrace to the fat acceptance movement and I feel sad that they have representatives such as you WEETZ, and lookoutpinkie.

You are all disgraceful horrible representatives of a message that is supposed to be positive. You sit at your computers smashing your keyboard with nothing but anger and hate, there's nothing else to be learned from any of you.

And I don't know about anyone else, but I personally don't want to see your shit on my feed anymore. I'm all for debating and if I feel as if someone is right I will let them know. I'm not against agreeing with someone else and admitting I am wrong, and I really do enjoy having literate, challenging, critical debates with others. But all three of you have absolutely nothing to offer on that level, so say hello to my block list.

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