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Jian Yi and Zhan Zheng Xi - let's go back
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Does Anybody Really Know What Time It Is?
I’ve seen a lot of posts recently which rightly cry for help in working out the timeline these days. Ever since June of last year, starting with chapter 443 (Haircuts), it’s been really hard to determine where the newest chapters fit in any timeline. Even my analysis may not be correct, so if you have other ideas, please share! I took a close look and came up with these:
Four Distinct Timelines:
Third year of middle school, boys are 15 (chapters 51-445, except special chapters)
Zhan Zheng Xi’s first year of university when Jian Yi returns – guys are 18-19 (chapters 1-50)
Christmas and Chinese New Year of He Tian’s return, ZZX is finishing uni, guys are 21-22 (Xmas special chapters, chapters 452 to present, chapter 462 and possibly 415 and 438; New Year activities last 2 weeks)
Post-age 22, guys are settled in their relationships (chapters 446-451, various Special Chapters, and much single-panel art).
The Breakdown:
I know
Some things never change
Anyway, this is a clear example of why I miss the old art style: the light, the movement, the emotions… Everything was expressive and dynamic, the art had a life and character of its own. Now everything is too crisp and clean and polished, and the characters often look like stiff mannequins, it comes off as generic and lifeless.
The latest updates are cute and all but wth is going on with the art I just want to do an unhinged rant at this point OX breaking my heart tbqh
So, one (ONE) anon asked me to elaborate on this, and now here we are.
Long and messy personal rant, with example art, beneath the cut. Important reminder here: Don't Like, Don't Read!
This contains exactly what it says on the tin, so if this is not your jam, just go read something else.
Omg thank you for that post! I've been feeling really disappointed with the art lately but I couldn't really describe what was making me feel this way? You used the exact words I was missing!!!
I've been following this story basically from the start and tbh the old art style, even if it's old and kinda wonky, is still my favourite so far. Yes it has some problems with anatomy etc but at least every character looked unique! One look at the face, eyes, hair, body, anything and you could tell who it is. But nowadays it's all the same. Like they all have the same body shape, everyone is buff and athletic out of nowhere?? Almost the same-face syndrome too!
And the worst part is that those boys are supposed to be middle schoolers! 15 years oldish and yet they basically look the same as He Cheng and Qiu who are grown ass adults??? I cannot stand the fact that He Tian and He Cheng look basically the same now??? (I know they are brothers bla bla but they are years apart from each other!!
Look at the body shapes here, they look like regular teenagers, and JY is basically a stick figure as he hates working out! Also they have very distinctive features and characteristics.
And look how She Li has changed. He looks sooo much older and also like He Tian but with white hair...
And yes!! the backgrounds!! They start to really look like photoshop filters or just straight-up AI, which makes it feel so boring and half-done.
I still love this comic as I've dedicated a big chunk of my life to following it, but it really feels like OX doesn't really know what to do with it and where to go. Both with the plot and the art style. And it really hurts me to see it like that :(((
So, remember this 19 Days meta I wrote a while back, where I look at instances of jealous/possessive behaviour between Jian Yi and Zhan Zhengxi? My conclusion was that Jian Yi stops exhibiting this behaviour as soon as they start dating (i.e. as soon as Zhengxi commits to him), while Zhengxi continues to display possessive and sulky jealous behaviour on occasion.
At the time, I thought this was a sign of Zhengxi being less secure in their relationship. That he continued to doubt the security of Jian Yi's commitment (in the college-age arc, possibly also due to Jian Yi's highschool disappearance). But this reason never really sat right with me. So, here's a different take on why Zhengxi continues to show this moody, possessive behaviour from time to time, throughout the span of the story: he doubts himself.
Zhengxi is from this super mainstream middleclass family. Everyone, including himself, has always expected him to lead a very normal life, and part of that is getting married and starting a family. It's not that he's interested in getting married or starting a family, it's just that it is expected to be a natural step in life, once he's completed university and gotten a job. And he hasn't questioned this. Not until his whole gay awakening (or at least "Jian Yi awakening") in the last year of middle school.
I already read all of this as a central part of his struggles, coming to terms with the shifting nature of their relationship. But I think that, even after he works through the internalised homophobia and shit, and starts dating Jian Yi, he still hasn't worked through these things in relation to his family or the wider cultural expectations aimed at him. He's used to being a good son, a good brother, a good student... A large part of his self image is based on this: on being a model citizen; and he doesn't know what to do with that, if he can't follow the script.
Re-evaluating his relationship with Jian Yi, and navigating the shift from childhood BFFs to romantic couple, is something he could do with and in relation to Jian Yi. Despite his sister being present for some of the struggles, he doesn't have to tell his family anything. And he doesn't tell them anything about dating Jian Yi, not as far as we can tell. And I think this is the source of his continuing internal conflict: that he is commited to their relationship internally (in direct relation to Jian Yi, and affirmed within their peer group when necessary); but he hasn't followed up externally. He hasn't figured out how to reconcile being in a comitted gay relationship with being a good citizen*. And as long as he hasn't settled this conflict within himself, he continues to feel the pressure to marry and establish a family.
I think his insecurity is based in a fear that he might eventually betray their love, because he doesn't know how to navigate around it.
*) Current Chinese policy towards lgbtq persons is, that it is not illegal to be queer, but it is also not accepted/accommodated. It is simply ignored. Which means that you will not be legally persecuted, but you will also have zero protection from discrimination of any kind, including from e.g. police, doctors, teachers, employers, etc. And the overall cultural climate towards queer people in China is pretty negative/unaccepting.
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#19days 搂腰。| Hug waist.
(Official art - Old Xian)
Zhan Zhengxi: *appears with a new hairstyle*
Jian Yi meanwhile:
(Damn it, he likes him so much)
Jian Yi is so into Zhengxi's looks! He knows it and he shows it and he calls him "handsome" to his face. It's not that Zhengxi's looks are the reason for his feelings, but that his feelings make him very susceptible to Zhengxi's looks.
And it's not like Zhengxi is indifferent to how Jian Yi looks either, we get a few scenes showing just how affected he is when Jian Yi flaunts his assets. But he is obviously just as taken with him when he's muddy, wet, has a running nose, etc.
Gotta love these little details ( ´ ∀ `)ノ~ ♡
New 'draw your squad' picture just dropped lmao
It’s so heartwarming and they had such a fun night of smiles, and I wish I could ignore the anxiety gnawing at me saying that all this fun is the last fun they’re going to have for a while—and not just because he tian is leaving soon😭
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I know everyone is talking about tianshan (because really who wouldn't die for Mo rn) but zhanyi holding hands clingy zhanyi head in lap heart eyes zhanyi
These two go together