STAR TREK: DEEP SPACE NINE Civil Defense 3x07
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STAR TREK: DEEP SPACE NINE Civil Defense 3x07
“Garak, this isn’t helping.”
Don't take it so personally, Garak. It's strictly a matter of mathematics. STAR TREK: DEEP SPACE NINE - 6.01 A TIME TO STAND
The Angels take Manhattan. Amy and Rory. Definitely.
Notes on Cardassian Courtship
A running theme in all my DS9 fic has been explorations and interpretations of Cardassian courtship. I’ve spent a lot of time devising a system that I think makes a lot of sense and that I reference in all of my fanwork. At the request of @evenmyhivemindisempty I decided to share it! In honor of Valentine’s Day, here are my headcanons, featuring canon and non-canon ships alike! Also on AO3.
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this is not an essay that anyone except me will care about but even though i hate pretty much everything about the Garak/Ziyal romance i do think it’s a fascinating relationship. it’s fucked up, but it’s fascinating, and sad, and i think it’s consistent with their characters.
i don’t think Garak really loved Ziyal romantically so much as he just wanted to not be alone. we never saw him express passion or attraction for her. but here he is, he hasn’t been in any kind of romantic relationship for years, let alone meaningful connection with his own species, every day on the station is torture for him, Bashir is slowly growing distant because the writers have been told not to make them too gay, he’s extremely lonely and here comes this innocent young Cardassian woman who becomes infatuated with him. he knows he’s not good for her, especially not good as a choice for what I think we can assume is Ziyal’s first romantic relationship– he’s too old for her, he’s a compulsive liar and manipulator, he’s SLEPT WITH HER DAD. but they’re the only two people on DS9 who really understand what the other is going through: that internal conflict in hating Cardassian society for what it did to them but yearning so badly for its approval and acceptance. and Ziyal gives him that Cardassian approval and acceptance! so he, in turn, accepts Ziyal’s advances against his better judgement. it’s a terrible decision but Garak is full of terrible decisions. that’s why he’s stranded on this god-forsaken space station overdosing on pain meds to cope.
this is long so Ziyal discussion under the cut
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Cardassian courtship:
I had this idea of Garak and Julian trying out a program together and when the two Cardassian love interests start making out with intent, Julian freaks and calls an end to it.
And it's very important for you to know in this idea that Julian is convinced they AREN'T dating and Garak is convinced THEY ARE.
Julian: Computer, freeze program! Garak: Something the matter, Doctor? Julian: What the bloody hell is going on?
Julian is utterly confused. He just wanted to have a nice time with Garak in a new Cardassian program.
Garak: One would assume that you should know that better than I, considering this is your program.
Garak, under the impression that Julian wanted to watch porn together and is picking a fight to finally, finally have sex after dating for however long he thinks that's been happening.
Julian: Jadzia and Quark both recommended it to me when I asked about Cardassian programs. That should've been my warning- Garak: You had no idea what sort of program this was until this moment?
Willing to go along with the premise, waiting for the argument to really start.
Julian: Of course I didn't! Garak: How strange. They were clearly exhibiting all the signs of Cardassian courtship. You must be familiar by now.
Referencing the fact he thinks they're dating.
Julian: I know arguing is flirting, but they did nothing but fight. Fighting has to be interspersed with other things or they just hate each other. Garak: We happen to fight quite frequently, my dear. Julian: Frequently, Garak, not all the time.
Julian responding with this because he assumes Cardassians also flirt with friends as part of their relationships, like Humans do and he has no fucking idea Garak thinks they're talking about their own relationship.
Garak: What would you consider to be frequent enough without going over?
Genuinely curious if this is some sort of message he should be paying attention to.
Julian: Well, obviously you've got to fight just enough to be sure you're actually communicating and everything. But a couple should also be able to trust each other with their feelings. You know how Jadzia and I get to together just to drink and talk sometimes? And how you and I sometimes just sit in comfortable silence? Or how Miles and I just drink and throw darts? Not every moment should be filled with something. Sometimes you don't need words and you don't need fighting or flirting.
Garak: ...I see.
Overcome at the fact that Julian is actually expressing a sentiment that is only held between married couples. Meaning they have enough intimacy and trust between them to not need to reaffirm their love and attraction every ten minutes.
Julian: Is something wrong, Garak? Garak: No, my dear. Dearest. Nothing. I am only very gratified to hear it. Julian: So you agree with me! Garak: Oh yes.
This got stuck in my fucking head and I had to write it down. So. Enjoy!
I can’t believe Andy Robinson said “yeah Garak and Dukat fucked” and expect me to not loose my goddamn mind about it I-
there are some actors who are like ;) maybe they are g-a-y! it could be whatever you want it! ;) and then theres andy and sid
[ID: five gifs from season 2, episode 5 “cardassians” from the tv series “star trek: deep space nine”, the gifs show julian bashier and elim garak in front of a computer.
1st gif: julian is leaning on the right side of the computer, while garak is seated on the left. garak is working on fixing the computer. julian tells garak, “i continue to underestimate you, garak.” julian shifts to rest his cheek on the palm of his right hand.
2nd gif: "oh, it’s no more difficult than sewing on a button, actually.” garak replies, still focused on the computer.
3rd gif: "excuse me.” garak gets up and shifts places with julian to stand in front of the computer screen. he takes off the tool he was wearing on his left eye and hands it over to julian.
4th gif: "you carry this everywhere with you, do you?“ julian asks garak while taking the tool from him.
5th gif: “a simple tailoring tool. you’d be surprised how often someone needs their pants let out.” garak replies, he is still focusing on the computer screen. to his left, julian is playing with the tool, putting it up against his right eye./end ID]
[ID: five gifs from season 2, episode 5 “cardassians” from the tv series “star trek: deep space nine”, the gifs show julian bashier and elim garak in front of a computer.
1st gif: julian is leaning on the right side of the computer, while garak is seated on the left. garak is working on fixing the computer. julian tells garak, “i continue to underestimate you, garak.” julian shifts to rest his cheek on the palm of his right hand.
2nd gif: "oh, it’s no more difficult than sewing on a button, actually.” garak replies, still focused on the computer.
3rd gif: "excuse me.” garak gets up and shifts places with julian to stand in front of the computer screen. he takes off the tool he was wearing on his left eye and hands it over to julian.
4th gif: "you carry this everywhere with you, do you?“ julian asks garak while taking the tool from him.
5th gif: “a simple tailoring tool. you’d be surprised how often someone needs their pants let out.” garak replies, he is still focusing on the computer screen. to his left, julian is playing with the tool, putting it up against his right eye./end ID]
A few minutes later…
Stop with the flirty banter, guys. You’re not on set. [x]
Ukrainian couple, early XXth century
But it's time to face the truth:
We live in uncertain times.
Andrew Robinson on playing Garak for the first time.
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