tobi-to-the-rama

a lil blog for all my tobirama related thoughts, and other naruto bits and bobs.

[tobitotherama]

Tobirama related headcanons and stuff that I find neat, in no particular order:

- time travel shenanigans with Tobirama

- his testing stage jutsu, sealing and experiments resulting in funny accidents like de-aging, shrinking, animal shifting, genderbending, etc

- his red face tattoos being sage marks or seals that he uses to store nature energy for sage mode

- Tobirama having snow leopard summons

- Half Hatake Tobirama

- leading from that, Tobirama having wolf or otherwise canine summons

- Tobirama somehow collecting Tailed Beasts as friends/tentative allies/mutually respected figures

- Tobirama being kind of autistic

- cats loving Tobirama and Tobirama loving cats

- healer Tobirama with all the theoretical expertise and learned chakra control but not the natural chakra reserves and healing nature like his brother

- tall but kind of lean Tobirama in his 20s (yes, this is partially a result of his terrible self care habits during the war and at the beginning of the village founding)

- this leading to Tobirama being an absolute unit later in his 30s and 40s, I'm talking tall, thicc and SUCH DAMN BIG MUSCLES (result of mandatory self-care during peacetime and adopting having so many troublesome students that need carrying away from their self-created disasters including and not limited to fights with each other and random people or enemy shinobi, explosions, collapses, more explosions, backfiring jutsu, sealing accidents, etc)

- Best Sensei: Senju Tobirama, able to teach anyone, anything; it doesn't even have to be his students, it could be any child or even teenagers, very rarely young adults

- everyone either snickering at or being stunned speechless by Mama Duck Tobirama and his little duckling students aka Team Tobirama (the six membered escort unit)

- Tobirama being good with kids because he was the closest with his little brothers when they were alive since he got to spend most of his spare time with them

- bonus points if this is post their mother's death and so he becomes the closest thing to a proper caretaker that Kawarama and Itama get

- bonus bonus points if Hashirama felt kind of jealous and left out since he was constantly occupied with his duties as the Senju heir and barely got to spend time or connect with them the way that Tobirama did; make no mistake, he loved them, but they were his baby brothers, not his babies like they were for Tobirama

- SENJU BROTHER ANGST RAHHH

- Tobirama having the shittiest eyesight this side of the Naka River due to his albinism (the only thing he and the Uchiha can both relate to)

- leading from that, Blind Tobirama fics are *chef's kiss*

- Tobirama and Mito shaking their heads in disappointment at Hashirama in unison

- ELDER COUSIN SENJU TOUKA AND HER FAVOURITE BABY COUSIN TOBIRAMA; I love these two as a BROTP and I especially love when Touka is one of the only people that Tobirama feels he has in his corner and when Touka is willing to beat the ass of anyone who messes with her baby cousin, including Hashirama, and ESPECIALLY either of the Uchiha brothers

- Sassy Tobirama but he says everything so dryly that some people don't actually catch it until later on, if ever

- HIS JUTSU KEEP GETTING PLAGIARISED HELP; this was literally so funny in the 4th Great Shinobi War arc, where it turned out that Minato and Naruto's most used Jutsu (excluding the Rasengan ofc) were just his, and don't even get me started on the damn Edo Tensei-

- speaking of, I love the headcanon that the Edo Tensei was created in an attempt to bring back his brothers or the loved ones of others, ESPECIALLY if we are talking about him bringing back Izuna in an effort to reach Hashirama's dream of peace by giving back what he took from Madara (even though it was war and so Izuna would've killed him if he hadn't killed him first, but ANYWAYS)

- Tobirama being haunted by the ghost of Izuna; this can be funny, angsty or both, I eat it up any which way

- Tobirama Emotional Whumps that feature Hashirama in particular

- The Argument post the Naka River incident aka when Tobirama snitched on Hashirama and Madara; my hc is that this was the first time that something actually tore at their relationship even though they were kind of leading up to it from the time Kawarama first passed away

- The Argument 2 post Izuna's wounding on the battlefield and subsequent death; Hashirama worries for the state of his dream and the loss of a sibling that his friend is facing, which he knows all too well by now; he does not consider that Tobirama and Izuna did not fight like he and Madara did, and that if Tobirama hadn't struck when he did, he might have been the one struck down (this is a favourite of mine actually, since I'm apparently an emotional masochist)

- Tobirama loves his older brother but values seeing things logically more than simply believing in his brother's dream; Hashirama loves his last little brother but he would sacrifice anything for his and Madara's childhood dream for peace

- that moment when Hashirama was about to off himself for Madara to forgive and make peace with the Senju, and Tobirama wasn't fast enough to stop him; the fastest shinobi of his age, and he was so stunned in that moment that his dulled reaction had almost taken his last brother from him, if not for Madara's quicker hands and softened heart when it came to Hashirama

- OH YES. Tobirama and Madara having mutual resentment for each other but at different points, and for different reasons; Tobirama has resented Madara since he and Hashirama became friends because after the loss of their younger brothers, Tobirama and Hashirama's brotherly relationship became strained and he felt almost replaced by Madara; meanwhile, Madara only really came to resent Tobirama after he caused Izuna's death and thereafter continued to dare living and breathing and being part of his and Hashirama's dream while Izuna was gone-

- underappreciated peacetime architect Tobirama - bro builds up most of the administrative and educational systems, shinobi rankings and laws for Kohoha; but oh, Hashirama and Madara planned it first PLEASE LET'S BE REAL they were not allowed to lay hands on the electrical and sewage systems, roads or building placement plans (I personally feel that they would've had a hand in overall planning and finalising and maybe physical labour via Mokuton but not so much in the actual logistics)

Ahem. Enough near canon Founders angst.

MOVING ON.

- Tobirama accidentally bringing people back to the past because they keep messing with his seals in the future

- Tobirama somehow someway adopting various characters who deserved better (Kagami, Kakashi, Naruto, Sasuke, Sakura, Tenzo, Itachi, Shisui, never seen it before but either of the Hyuuga cousins)

- Tobirama getting reincarnated as Sakura since Hashirama and Madara got reincarnated as Naruto and Sasuke, and this making her an absolute badass with a water chakra affinity (rare but golden hc)

More to added.

Please feel free to share your own or any fics recs you have. ✨️

[tobitotherama]

Yall, what kind of animals do you guys think suit Tobirama? This can be as a general aesthetic, for potential Sage Mode or even just as Summons. Or a Shifter AU, if you so please.

Because I feel like any could suit him, and I have seen different ones used across fics. So, just checking your opinions.

CHOOSE YOUR TOBIRAMA ANIMAL

White Wolf

White Tiger

Snow Leopard

A really big White Main Coone

White Owl

Some type of Whale

Voting ended onJun 17

[tobitotherama]

OKAY OKAY OKAY HEAR ME OUT YALL

I know most of us are on the Snow Leopard Tobirama summons/sage mode train, which is both valid and a brilliantly displayed headcanon by our beloved artists and writers in the fandom.

But.

The White Tiger.

Tobirama. Tobira. Tora. Tora = Tiger.

Tobirama has what kind of sage marks? Red stripes on his face. STRIPES.

Not to mention, tigers actually do enjoy swimming AND they're good at it. (A little too good for some people's comfort, actually.)

Plus, imagine the AURA that Tobirama would have in those edits that are all like "You cannot reason with a tiger when your head is in it's mouth!"

Imagine how terrifying it would be to come face to face with the fastest Shinobi of his time, and now not only is he fast, he's also built like a tank (tigers have such good muscles that they can remain standing when dead, tmyk), he's stealthy as hell, and he keeps making these scary ass growls that are almost paralysing to you, especially paired with his killing intent.

I'm so serious, the aura potential is off the charts.

Anyways.

WHITE TIGER TOBIRAMAAAAA.

[snake-bitch-in-a-ditch]

ask me anything

anything Naruto related

I beg of you

I'm so bored

[tobitotherama]

What inherent chakra nature affinity are you headcanoning for characters like the Rookie 12?

Most of their specialties are either Kekkei Genkai or completely non-elemental related that we just never see them use any elemental style jutsu and never find out their chakra affinities.

I'm especially curious about our girl Sakura who is literally one of the main female characters but doesn't have a specific inherent chakra affinity even randomly chosen.

Literally feel so robbed bc of this.

[tobitotherama]

While I did select snow leopard for Tobirama on the poll I do believe a pallas cat would be a good fit as well. It naturally has the same expression as Tobirama after dealing with everyone else's problems.

NEW???CAT??

THAT NOBODY TOLD ME ABOUT???

ME. THE BIG CAT LOVER.

Hang on a minute.

*opens google*

[tobitotherama]

Yall, what kind of animals do you guys think suit Tobirama? This can be as a general aesthetic, for potential Sage Mode or even just as Summons. Or a Shifter AU, if you so please.

Because I feel like any could suit him, and I have seen different ones used across fics. So, just checking your opinions.

CHOOSE YOUR TOBIRAMA ANIMAL

White Wolf

White Tiger

Snow Leopard

A really big White Main Coone

White Owl

Some type of Whale

Voting ended onJun 17

[melmili]

just wanna say i am a big fan of this trope specifically

[tobitotherama]

Readers (and various characters) to Tobirama in MadMothMadame's Count Your Blessings be like this.

Tobirama, unfortunately, cannot and is not willing to hand over the reins.

If anyone needs the link: https://archiveofourown.org/works/20600093

I'm rereading to feel something pain. :)

[camovampire]

[tobitotherama]

I just screeched into my pillow yall. 🥺

When your siblings stay the same even when they're all grown up and as an older sibling you're internally like. You. I remember when you were just a smol shrivelled up whining bug who did the same shit you just did now. I can't decide whether to throttle you or attempt to hug you to relieve this sudden cuteness aggression. Probably one disguised as the other.

no beta we die of cuteness like Hashirama obviously did BC THERE'S NO WAY HE WAS FELLED IN BATTLE. >:[

[tobitotherama]

Nobody:

Me, instead of working on my exam portfolio that's due in three days: *mentally creates an indepth explanation on why the song Careless Whisper is HashiMada coded from Madara's pov*

[tobitotherama]

Just so yall know, I was gonna post an indepth post that same night. And I was almost finished when Tumblr betrayed me (I was a fool who fooled around and got fooled).

It took an hour and a half. And it was gone. But uh, let me know if I yall want me to rewrite it, ig. If even one person asks, I will bc I'm desperate to share things like that. 🥲

[beefnoodlesoupp]

“i’ll become your eye and see the future with you”

[tobitotherama]

WAIT.

Okay, firstly look at this beautifully angsty piece. Look at it properly. Then look me in the eyeball (heh) and tell me.

Was this the Kakashi and Obito equivalent of the sns line: "Then I'll bear the burden of your hatred and die with you."

WAS IT? IF SO THEN WHY DID NOBODY PUT ME ONTO THIS SOONER-

[tobitotherama]

Nobody:

Me, instead of working on my exam portfolio that's due in three days: *mentally creates an indepth explanation on why the song Careless Whisper is HashiMada coded from Madara's pov*

[attex]

when a ship is really good but its popular so everyone fucking does it wrong. they would not be cute and healthy and cuddly with each other. they are together in a way that harms them both and it sucks

[tobitotherama]

Madara and Tobirama

GASP WHO SAID THAT-

[driedlillies]

From father willing sacrifice his children to continue a war to son willing to sacrifice everyone including his brother to preserve the new status quo of an incredibly flawed institution… oh hashirama you look just like you father

[tobitotherama]

Headcanon that at some point, there was a mirror in the Hokage's office, or may even just a really ultra reflective window (like how tinted windows make it easier to see your reflection than normal windows, depending on the lighting). Many arguments have been had in said Hokage's office, with said mirror/window in it. Between the Senju brothers especially.

Disagreements over procedure, how they were presenting themselves to potential allies and enemies, who was put in charge of what. Arguments about the inner workings of the village and the many clans joining, the influential positions given to members of other clans, and the privileges given to those awarded such station. The worst conflicts between them though, always seem to lead back to the Uchiha Clan, oftentimes to Madara.

During one of those fights, Hashirama isn't entirely sure if he's just imagining it, but if he knows his brother well enough (and he hopes he does, hopes that his trust in his younger brother - the last brother he has left - to protect his greatest dream, the village, has not been misplaced; Hashirama hopes and hopes and hopes, as he always does), he thinks that the subtle flinches, those restrained reactions and fleeting expressions (quick and hidden away quicker, as Tobirama has always been: always ahead of everyone else, the quickest of his younger brothers, and now the fastest Shinobi of their generation), they might just stem not from offense or anger or shock, but from hurt and ... fear?

The quiet tone of voice that his brother takes after some of their fights is slightly unnerving. The distant terms of respect used sting, they aren't said in disdain but just hearing them rubs Hashirama the wrong way.

"My apologies, Hokage-sama. You are correct."

"If there is anything else you require of me, let me know, Hokage-sama."

"I will take my leave then, Hokage-sama."

Hokage-sama.

Not Anija.

Not even Hashirama.

Hokage-sama. As if there is no sibling relationship to be found, only that of a Village Head and his subordinate. Loyalty, but not that of kin, of brothers who have been through war together. Since the start of the village, perhaps even before that, it has felt like ... something else. Tobirama feels so far away from him, out of his reach from how far below him he's put himself with that assertion of rank.

The distance makes Hashirama want to scream, cry, rip his hair out from frustration. He wants him back, he wants his little brother back, his last precious sibling, who seems to slip through his fingers like water despite all that Hashirama does to try and keep him close. But perhaps, like with water, that would mean containing Tobirama, which is something that Hashirama has never quite found himself able to do, because that wasn't his thing. That would be more like father Butsuma that man.

His reflection catches his eye. The grimace that is slowly becoming something of a constant feature on his face is a bit ... unnerving. The downward turn of his lip, the furrow in his brow, the disapproval burning in his dark eyes. You look like him. That severe expression ... You look just like him.

He had yelled earlier too, hadn't he? He had just meant to admonish his brother for his behaviour, severe and firm, but not cruel. Not like Butsuma was. At a certain point though, he now realises that he had started berating him instead.

"Tobira, how many times have I told you not to incite issues with the Uchiha? I know that you haven't always thought my dreams to be possible, but I would've thought that you'd at least put aside your differences with the Uchiha and trust in me as your elder brother, support the path that I am taking us forward on."

"Little Brother, you cannot be causing such conflicts between ourselves and the Uchiha Clan. We aren't at war anymore, we are allies in the village now and you will treat them as such. I will not hear anymore of your prejudice towards the Uchiha, and especially not towards Madara. He is my precious friend, like a brother to me, and he deserves your respect as the other founder of this village!"

"Do you even want this peace? Because your actions and behaviour around the village say otherwise. The days of war are over, Tobirama. I won't let you drag us back into them. I understand now, that in the past, my allowing you so much say in the decisions made for the sake of the clan's survival was a mistake. Your volatility and prejudice have only grown, and have in turn made you grow insolent. I may no longer be your clan head, but I am your Hokage now, and you will obey me. Am. I. Clear?"

You're just like your father. You're going to become him. You are him.

Hashirama's trembling hands come up to cover his face. If he sits in his chair, struggling to breathe in the wake of his realisation, no one else needs know.

(He hadn't meant it like that. He didn't see Tobirama as a threat to the peace, not intentionally anyways, not in the treasonous way suggested. He works too hard to contribute to the village, to Hashirama's dream, for that to be the case. So much of this village has only been possible because of Tobirama's work. And Hashirama is grateful for it, he just wishes that Tobirama could be grateful for the village too. After all, the initial dream behind it was a place to keep precious little brothers safe and far away from war.

He understands his brother's reservations towards the Uchiha, given their bloody history, and he knows that their younger brothers' deaths had hit Tobirama harder than anyone would've ever thought and would ever know. But ... he wants both. He wants to have his little brother by his side while also having the village of his and Madara's childhood dreams. Admittedly though, if those two become opposing desires, he knows which one he will pick.)

"I will not tolerate anyone who seeks to harm the village. Be they friend, brother or even my very own child."

Hashirama, son of Butsuma. He is the God of Shinobi, the First Hokage of Konoha, and the Dreamer of the Senju Clan. But all he feels right now is that he's more cruel and ruthless than anyone would know, just like how his father raised him to be.

—

The mirror is removed from the Hokage's office that same day. Hashirama does not seek out his brother for the rest of that week. And from then on, he does not linger when looking at his reflection anywhere, too afraid to see the scowling face of Senju Butsuma staring back at him.

—

After the Valley of the End, Hashirama wonders about the sanctity of brotherhood with him.

Kawarama and Itama were long gone, taken before their time by a war they should have never been a part of. Tobirama, to this day, still maintains a certain distance between them. It's far better than it was back in the beginning, when their arguments were so frequent, and Tobirama would sometimes go out of his way to avoid him after a fight. But now ... sometimes it still feels like he can't bear to look Hashirama in the face. Not the way he used to.

You do look like Butsuma now, after all. And you remember what he did to Tobirama.

And now Madara, the man he claimed as his brother in all but blood, his first friend, the one with whom he dreamt up and then created Konoha. Even him ...

Hashirama fears, even if he were to avoid looking at himself in the mirror altogether, he'd still see that he looks just like his father, that he's unintentionally folleoing right in his footsteps. A ruthless, cruel man, willing to sacrifice all the precious sons and brothers it would take to achieve his goals, whether that be war or peace.

—

UGH I LOVE SENJU BROTHER ANGST. Unintentionally but irreversibly suboptimal sibling Hashirama is just *chef's kiss*.

I haven't really gotten into Hashirama's character when reading fic yet, as in reading Hashirama-centric fics, but I do enjoy when they explore his character complexities in general when reading fics. I feel it's a very important aspect that affects Tobirama and Madara's characters as well most of the time. And well, they are the characters I read most about, and Hashirama's character is important to them, so he is therefore also important to me.

Don't worry, buddy, you're doing your best, and while we may all judge you, we would probably not be doing much better, so there.

Hope this was at least somewhat accurate, in some universe, and that yall could enjoy it. This is my first time ever reblogging anything on Tumblr, much less making my own addition to a post, so I'm extremely nervous, but I was possessed by the spirit of writing when seeing this post, and it wasn't going to let go of me till I got all that out.

Also, if you couldn't tell, long unnecessary paragraphs are my love language. <3

[tobitotherama]

So um. I saw this tiktok today, and it made me think of our lovely whumpee (fanon) Senju Tobirama.

I can't exactly say that I see myself in Tobirama because I could never handle half the shit he did (I'm too autistic and emotionally fragile for that, sorry). But I think it's rather a case of me admiring fanon him for his resilience and consistent values, even though I know that a lot of it must have come from trauma - burn in hell, Senju Butsuma - and that it definitely isn't okay to be taking on so much by yourself, and it's not supposed to prove anything because it can be so bad for you. But like, doesn't it literally prove everything?

I don't mean to romanticise trauma responses, but ... if it can make you that great, is it really that bad? I know, it is bad. I just feel like, if I could be that capable and know that my sacrifices meant something even if others didn't know it or see it or acknowledge it - would it not be worth it?

So even though I can't directly relate to Tobirama's fanon attitude given the complete difference of circumstances, I think I might be able to see where he's coming from and understand why he has the attitude that he does.

... I also think that myself and a whole bunch of people on ao3 need to go to therapy for relating to Tobirama like this. 😭

Anyways, um, have a Tobirama picture for your troubles and for reading my first post ig.

(NOT MY ART. I FOUND IT ON PINTEREST. PLEASE DON'T HURT ME.)

I can't figure out how to remove this question, so ... WHO EATS, SLEEPS AND BREATHES TOBIRAMA WHUMP?

MEEEEE!

me.

I do!

Voting ended onApr 6

(Sometimes I listen to this song and I think of Tobirama and I cri-)

Uhh, was this an okay first post? 😭 I feel like I put a whole bunch of stuff here ...

Ykw, it is what it is.

Till next time. ✌️