since iâm so wildly off the mark, explain it to me like iâm five then.
because this is the way i see it:
1) no matter what you call it, consoling, relating, or even just simply trying to gain the upper hand by exploiting vecnaâs weaknesses in battle, you cannot argue and say that will wasnât comforting henry here. or trying to, anyhow. i was specifically talking about those two lines, not the subsequent scenes and developments that happen later for will once vecna stands firm on his âthe stone didnât make me evil, i chose to be evil because i am evilâ bullshit. it is only after that that we see the switch that leads to the âiâm not afraid anymoreâ dialogue. i understand, as a whole, what this confrontation meant for willâs character. but that wasnât the point of my post. no, i was pointing out how gross it was for that dialogue to be included (and how stupid a forgiveness arc was in the first place.)
2) i was being tame with my language before by only calling vecna willâs abuser. will was stalked, hunted, kidnapped, then forcefully (and unconsciously) violated & orally penetrated with a (btw phallic looking) object during the worst of his trauma. his stomach was pumped full of demodogs and he was used as an incubator at only 12 to fulfil the purpose of infiltrating the right side up with the UD. the sa allegories were right there, clear as day, if only you took the time to pick apart the symbolism of scenes instead of solely focusing on the black-and-white of what was in front of you on screen. so, letâs get the record straight: vecna was more than just willâs abuser, he was willâs rapist. he was the last person in the world that should have ever been offered an olive branch of forgiveness. especially from his victim.
3) and yes!!! will being canonically gay matters a metric ton here when the words âyouâre just like meâ are involved. maybe it wasnât the intention of the duffers, but it shouldnât be dismissed or forgotten that there was very damaging stereotyping happening to the lgbtq+ community at the time. (that homosexuals and homosexuality went hand-in-hand with pedophilia.) this was a strong and existing belief back then and is still something thatâs thrown around, even today. it was already believed that homosexual behaviour was a perversion - a moral corruption, so when studies came out in the late 80s and early 90s claiming that the lgbtq+ community saw higher crime rates of pedophilia, the general population ran with that. gay = pedo.
i do think having a queer character say they are like another character (that has been shown and depicted as predatory towards specifically children) IS problematic because it reinforces that harmful stereotyping. even if thatâs not how it was meant within the context of the scene.
you were free to disagree politely, or heaven forbid just scroll past this post if you couldnât be a decent human about another personâs read on a scene about a serious topic. but you werenât. so you, too, can also fuck right off and let people on the internet have their opinions.
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