Thundergang & Co.

Warrior cats reimagined as humans. Focuses on the first arc cats and plot. Very open to any questions and requests!

[mercykatze]

littl human scourge doodle

design from @warriorhumans

[warriorhumans]

Mudclaw - Mahmud Khan

The love of my life Mudclaw is finally done. I’ve been putting him off for so long because I wanted to make sure he was perfect. Admittedly, he’s two or three different existing characters’ designs combined into one. Choosing his name was a fun coincidence of me already knowing what name I wanted for him but looking at spelling variations and stumbling across one with ‘mud’ in it. This man is not photogenic as he’s always scowling some way or another.

Mahmud is very quick to pick skills up but because of this gets bored extremely easily. He’s dropped out of at least two university degrees (history and psychology) due to deciding preemptively he’s learnt all there is to know and is smarter than the professors. He can do statistics and probabilities in his head. Just like his degrees, he picks up and abandons hobbies quickly. Even though he prefers hands on hobbies, the only one that’s managed to stick is the less hands on collecting of memorabilia and artifacts. He also loves classic rock.

Close up below for details.

[warriorhumans]

I would definitely research more before before posting these. You liking mudclaw doesn’t mean it’s not bad, and I wasn’t arguing that Onewhisker isn’t more redeemable. I was saying that in the canon text, he was an antagonist who tried to overthrow Onestar (who was shown to be good at the time). It was a mistake but it’s still very damaging and hurtful, even if it was well-intentioned. Thank you for apologizing.

thank you to both anons for pointing this out and to my friends who explained things to me in further detail. i appreciate being informed about when ive made a bad choice so i can fix it as soon as possible and avoid it in the future. i’m a white australian, so i often miss some of the real world implications of my actions and researching facts online isn’t a substitute for discussing or reading up on lived experiences. i will try and vary the sources of my research in the future so i can do better.

[warriorhumans]

i agree with other anon. it is really iffy and uncomfortable how mudclaw fits into middle eastern stereotypes and wears a head covering while onewhisker doesn’t and in the books mudclaw sides with villains and dies after an attempt of overthrowing onewhisker

i understand your concerns and will be doing what i can to write out any stereotypes that i’ve included due to any unconscious associations or lack of awareness with informed consultation. all of these characters are fully fleshed out and i have put a lot of research into making them feel real and accurate. nothing i include is ever intended to be a two dimensional trope slapped on for a certain effect.

who does and doesn’t have a head covering so far is mostly due to order of posting designs. there are designs on my main blog of other windclan characters with head coverings (tallstar and tornear for example), as well as other antagonistic characters who don’t have it (crowfeather and onewhisker himself). i feel that comparing mudclaw to onewhisker in terms of morality is tricky in itself as both are antagonistic, and mudclaw has far more redeeming traits.

i believe that so far i’ve been very sparse with explaining the world building, context, and other characters which has lead to characters seeming trope-y. i’ve been advised that going into more detail more often will help with portraying characters more suitably with background context, as opposed to my current dot point method of first 3 traits i recall. the current posts were intended to be references only and don’t go into enough detail on the distinctions between canon and the au.

[warriorhumans]

youre not. serious with ur mudclaw human being middle eastern with his characteristics being "can fly a plane" and "gambles" right? why is that the most notable things about him? like you are aware of the real stereotypes out there and how making the character who tried to overthrow and kill his leader in canon middle eastern plays into real world stereotypes? im sure u meant well with it but im not sure if it comes off this way. im a little baffled by it

genuinely was not aware of the gambling thing being a stereotype, thank you for the heads up. my intention there was to highlight his maths/statistics skills but that was clearly the wrong way to do that.

as for flying a plane, this was intended to be a common windclan trait as wind=sky and them having connections to the airport and being able to block flights could be analogous to windclan restricting bluestar from visiting the moonstone in books.

i’ll edit the post as soon as i’m able to and change the gambling point, and it will no longer be a part of his character. i will have a discussion with some of my peers who are middle eastern on how to proceed with the planes point clan-wise and character-wise, and would appreciate any input.

[warriorhumans]

Mudclaw - Mahmud Khan

The love of my life Mudclaw is finally done. I’ve been putting him off for so long because I wanted to make sure he was perfect. Admittedly, he’s two or three different existing characters’ designs combined into one. Choosing his name was a fun coincidence of me already knowing what name I wanted for him but looking at spelling variations and stumbling across one with ‘mud’ in it. This man is not photogenic as he’s always scowling some way or another.

Mahmud is very quick to pick skills up but because of this gets bored extremely easily. He’s dropped out of at least two university degrees (history and psychology) due to deciding preemptively he’s learnt all there is to know and is smarter than the professors. He can do statistics and probabilities in his head. Just like his degrees, he picks up and abandons hobbies quickly. Even though he prefers hands on hobbies, the only one that’s managed to stick is the less hands on collecting of memorabilia and artifacts. He also loves classic rock.

Close up below for details.

[warriorhumans]

Long time no design but I was in the mood for one so here’s Barley! Human name is just Barley still, unsure about surname. Those rustic clothes are more of a fashion statement than a career based one. Since Highstones is actually just some snowy mountains that the clans go on trips to, and Barley needed to be a character they encountered on the way there, he works there! Another character who’s greying early due to the many stressors in his life.

Bonus cursed alternate version under cut

naked face

[mercykatze]

i saw this post and immediately had to draw it as @warriorhumans​ onewhisker and mudclaw

[warriorhumans]

Probably not part of the official set of designs by any stretch but I had a strong vision of what he’d look like and needed to get him out of my brain.

Shirtless version under cut

[turquoise-tulip-deactivated2021]

girlboss leafstar and malewife billystorm

[warriorhumans]

Does Deacon still kill Rosetail? Because it'd be stupid and funny if that twerp somehow managed to shank (stab) someone ,he doesnt seem like a guy to kill on purpose,so if he was responsible for her death, was it by accident?

ah geez - deacon upon killing rosetail

[warriorhumans]

Is the first one ravenpaw??

yesss my friends said he needed to look like a “winter fuckboy” so i tried to acheive whatever that is

[warriorhumans]

The the first one stormfur?

nope i havent designed stormfur before

[warriorhumans]

graystripe and uh... leopardfur/star??

leopardstar is right! and you’re close with graystripe but not quite

[warriorhumans]

duo of human warriors designs i attempted to do today but are completely unusable for their original intended purpose.

any guesses on who they are? first is a redesign / aged up version of an old design, and second is completely new.

[warriorhumans]

Wait does that mean he panicked when he killed redtail?

no because he was in control of that situation and had calculated what the potential outcomes would be. it’s more of a “cringing when someone stubs their toe” reaction than can’t inflict pain on others. 

[warriorhumans]

two mini sketch comics based off of year-long inside jokes about this old image of kuwat catching the snake 

1. kuwats pockets are full of dirt and/or loose trail mix that sud packed him

2. sud’s immediate response to anyone in (accidental) danger is Panic because he’s got that naturally high empathy but then realises after he’s missed a chance