yo mamas a cishet

account mostly for arguing with internet people / bi / any pronouns idc —————————————

[wastelandbabez]

can we just take a moment to appreciate aquiline noses... they’re so beautiful omg aquiline nose havers come gimme a kiss rn

[meangirlnurse]

honestly the number of identities and flags and rhetorical positions that have been created to avoid the word ‘bisexual’ is just sad. it’s really sad. there’s no punchline to this post 

[gonnadosomethingwmylife]

The notes are a mess and op is RIGHT

[wastelandbabez]

the fact that some people think kink is inherently lgbt or that kink belongs at pride just shows how sexualized the lgbt community is by cishets

[wastelandbabez]

someday we’re going to have a Discussion about how military recruitment preys on lower-income kids

[yourfaveisabattleaxebi]

Wirt from Over the Garden Wall is a battleaxe bi!

[wastelandbabez]

EPIC thank u B)

[wastelandbabez]

idk who needs to hear this but no, cis+hetero asexuals/aromantics can’t reclaim queer and they certainly can’t identify as queer. because queer is a slur. yes, some people have chosen to reclaim it and even identify with it - and as long as they’re trans or attracted to the same gender that’s great - but that doesn’t mean that it isn’t still a slur.

[anti-anti-a-la-bi-bi]

And that's where you're wrong. First of all, you don't need to be sga or trans to be in the community, bi people who are attracted to nb and the opposite gender, or agender bi people, also exist, for example. Furthermore, do you genuinely think people ask for your sexuality before insulting you? Also, asexuals/aromantic have been included for the community for longer than you've been alive.

Ace/aro people can call themselves whatever they want.

[problematic-butnothateful]

i call myself queer because i'm nonbinary. i call myself queer because i'm bi - and being bi doesn't necessarily make anyone sga, for instance i do not consider myself sga because i am not the same gender as just any nonbinary person. and i call myself queer because i am aromantic, and that facet of myself is just as queer and just as different from being cishet than being nonbinary and bi is. cis heterosexual/heteroromantic aro and ace people have fundamentally different experiences than cishet allos and that experience is queer

[wastelandbabez]

“that experience is queer” do you hear yourself ?? queer is a slur. that’s like saying “asexuals have a different experience so that experience is fag.” it makes no sense whatsoever. i don’t care if they have a “different experience from allocishets”—queer is a slur that’s used to oppress trans people, bisexuals, and homosexuals. if you’re none of those - you can’t say it. it’s not theirs to reclaim because it wasn’t used to oppress them. queer is , again, a slur, not an umbrella term for those with a “different experience” than the norm.

[problematic-butnothateful]

queer is an experience. queer is my experience. do you even hear yourself? queer is no more and no less a slur than the word gay, which you'd know if you based your knowledge on more than whatever echo chamber you have built here in on tumblr. I don't remember ever hearing of "f*g studies", maybe because f*g and queer have a completely different degree of gravity. once again, something everyone knows, proved that they haven't just sat on tumblr reading radfem lite rhetoric would know

there's people who don't want to be called queer because it makes them uncomfortable. there's people who don't want to be called gay because it has been used as a slut against them. hell, there are men out there who refer to themselves as f*g, and women who refer to themselves as d*ke. you are free to call yourself however you wish. but if you don't identify as queer, you have no right to police who can and who can't use that word. being asexual or aromantic means facing discrimination and struggles straight allo people do not face or understand, and belinging to a marginalized sexual orientation means having a right to the word queer

[wastelandbabez]

guess what i do identify as queer !! so i * can * police who uses it !! also, you literally don’t have an argument. you’re just repeating “they have a right to the word queer” except no the fuck they don’t. i will seriously drop kick cishets calling themselves that within a 50 mile radius of me. again ; if you can’t reclaim a slur don’t fucking identify as it ??????. + i never said queer wasn’t an experience. but if it is an experience it’s not a cishet‘s experience that’s for sure. if you’re cishet, you ARE the oppressor regardless of your fucking sex life or lack thereof. belong to a “marginalized sexual orientation” does NOT give you rights to the word because IT WAS NOT HISTORICALLY USED TO OPPRESS CISHET ASEXUALS. that is how reclamation of slurs WORKS. cry about it

[problematic-butnothateful]

"cry about it" lmao says the person trying to deny what is an accepted truth. aspecs are queer, and you screaming about it online won't change that fact. you are the one without a shred of an argument and you proved it when talking about a "sex life". if you think asexuality means "people who don't have sex" you clearly don't even the definition of words you are using

anyways i am very aromantic and extremely queer because of it and little whiny aphobe tears sustain me, so please do continue to shout about how angry it makes you that aspecs take pride in their queer identity

[wastelandbabez]

you just don’t have an argument LMAOO you’re hysterical. btw aphobia isn’t a real problem and doesn’t exist outside of meanie allos on twitter. oh and i’m not mad btw - i clearly won the debate seeing as how you couldn’t come up with an argument so you busted out the claims of “aphobia.” go outside. talk to a queer. the worst discrimination asexuals experience is being called a virgin on the internet. sorry i refuse to validate the “aspec” labels that originated on a dnd sex roleplay site 😨😨 cishets calling themselves queer because they’re virgins is fucking stupid and it will never not be. xo

[problematic-butnothateful]

i literally cannot understand what planet you even come from. "talk to queer people" this will shock you but the major lgbt+ organization in my area includes aspec people. i really suspect you are the one who has never spoken to irl queer people here

honestly this entire reply has me in hysterics "dnd sex roleplay site" this is a new one on the aphobe squad

xoxo please come back from whatever parallel universe you're in i'll be trying to figure out how to live a fulfilling life despite society being structured in a way that harms aros beyond belief

[wastelandbabez]

oh my god also society is not “structured in a way that harms aros beyond belief” i promise you no one is getting thrown in a work camp for not wanting to date someone

[problematic-butnothateful]

no we are just being denied mental health care, being sent to mental hospitals, being denied the rights to share health care or tax benefits and so on with our friends and non romantic partners, being denied adoption on grounds of being single, and generally speaking considered by society as subhuman and sick and, if we are allosexual, perverted abusers

i've had my old therapist dismiss my suicidal tendencies born out of abuse in order to focus instead on "why aren't you interested in dating" so yeah aros are definitely discriminated against

[fullmetalfuck]

"I clearly won the debate" is like, the most annoying thing you can say when trivializing someone's identity. You know most people try to have calm and respectful convos instead of constantly trying to one-up the other person? Instead of focusing on """winning""" maybe you could try to understand the other person's perspective?? Idk just a thought

[wastelandbabez]

calm and respectful ?? they were the one talking about “whiny aphobe tears” when i WAS being respectful originally.

[wastelandbabez]

idk who needs to hear this but no, cis+hetero asexuals/aromantics can’t reclaim queer and they certainly can’t identify as queer. because queer is a slur. yes, some people have chosen to reclaim it and even identify with it - and as long as they’re trans or attracted to the same gender that’s great - but that doesn’t mean that it isn’t still a slur.

[glass-cubes]

Anyone who isn't cishet can identify as queer (aces aren't cishet and have been included in the lgbt community for ages under the term bi. It's only recently that people have started throwing a fit when they made their own terms.), and people are allowed to be queer because it's been reclaimed. You can't force it onto other but you can't tell people that they can't use it when they experience attraction/gender differently than cishets.

[wastelandbabez]

yeah i actually can tell cishets not to reclaim slurs that haven’t been used to oppress them

[wastelandbabez]

idk who needs to hear this but no, cis+hetero asexuals/aromantics can’t reclaim queer and they certainly can’t identify as queer. because queer is a slur. yes, some people have chosen to reclaim it and even identify with it - and as long as they’re trans or attracted to the same gender that’s great - but that doesn’t mean that it isn’t still a slur.

[anti-anti-a-la-bi-bi]

And that's where you're wrong. First of all, you don't need to be sga or trans to be in the community, bi people who are attracted to nb and the opposite gender, or agender bi people, also exist, for example. Furthermore, do you genuinely think people ask for your sexuality before insulting you? Also, asexuals/aromantic have been included for the community for longer than you've been alive.

Ace/aro people can call themselves whatever they want.

[morgrimmoon]

For a start, queer is not a slur. Please look up the definition of a slur. Queer is the friendly, polite, self-chosen identifier of the non cis-het community across the majority of the planet, and it was our word first. I am aware that it is used as an insult in approximately 1/4 to 1/3 of the USA, but anyone saying that the rest of the planet has to forfeit our word just because of their local bigots is a racist. That’s like saying nobody in North America is allowed to describe themselves as “black” because that word is used as an insult in Russia.

Two, if you’re ace, you’re queer. Because if you’re ace, you’re not het, by definition: asexuals are not sexually attracted to the opposite gender. “Hetero asexual” is an oxymoron, that’s like saying “hetero homosexual”.

[wastelandbabez]

first off why are you calling me a racist for this LMAOO man that is a REACH. second of all - the definition of queer is an informal, offensive term for a homosexual man - so no, cisgender heteroromantic asexuals are not queer “by definition.” also, hetero asexual is not an oxymoron, as asexuals can be heteroromantic.

the definition of a slur is an offensive term used against a particular demographic of people. queer is used in that way. it is a slur. just because some people choose to reclaim it and use it in a positive context doesn’t make it less of a slur. many slurs are used sometimes in positive contexts but that doesn’t give cishets rights to them.

[wastelandbabez]

idk who needs to hear this but no, cis+hetero asexuals/aromantics can’t reclaim queer and they certainly can’t identify as queer. because queer is a slur. yes, some people have chosen to reclaim it and even identify with it - and as long as they’re trans or attracted to the same gender that’s great - but that doesn’t mean that it isn’t still a slur.

[anti-anti-a-la-bi-bi]

And that's where you're wrong. First of all, you don't need to be sga or trans to be in the community, bi people who are attracted to nb and the opposite gender, or agender bi people, also exist, for example. Furthermore, do you genuinely think people ask for your sexuality before insulting you? Also, asexuals/aromantic have been included for the community for longer than you've been alive.

Ace/aro people can call themselves whatever they want.

[problematic-butnothateful]

i call myself queer because i'm nonbinary. i call myself queer because i'm bi - and being bi doesn't necessarily make anyone sga, for instance i do not consider myself sga because i am not the same gender as just any nonbinary person. and i call myself queer because i am aromantic, and that facet of myself is just as queer and just as different from being cishet than being nonbinary and bi is. cis heterosexual/heteroromantic aro and ace people have fundamentally different experiences than cishet allos and that experience is queer

[wastelandbabez]

“that experience is queer” do you hear yourself ?? queer is a slur. that’s like saying “asexuals have a different experience so that experience is fag.” it makes no sense whatsoever. i don’t care if they have a “different experience from allocishets”—queer is a slur that’s used to oppress trans people, bisexuals, and homosexuals. if you’re none of those - you can’t say it. it’s not theirs to reclaim because it wasn’t used to oppress them. queer is , again, a slur, not an umbrella term for those with a “different experience” than the norm.

[problematic-butnothateful]

queer is an experience. queer is my experience. do you even hear yourself? queer is no more and no less a slur than the word gay, which you'd know if you based your knowledge on more than whatever echo chamber you have built here in on tumblr. I don't remember ever hearing of "f*g studies", maybe because f*g and queer have a completely different degree of gravity. once again, something everyone knows, proved that they haven't just sat on tumblr reading radfem lite rhetoric would know

there's people who don't want to be called queer because it makes them uncomfortable. there's people who don't want to be called gay because it has been used as a slut against them. hell, there are men out there who refer to themselves as f*g, and women who refer to themselves as d*ke. you are free to call yourself however you wish. but if you don't identify as queer, you have no right to police who can and who can't use that word. being asexual or aromantic means facing discrimination and struggles straight allo people do not face or understand, and belinging to a marginalized sexual orientation means having a right to the word queer

[wastelandbabez]

guess what i do identify as queer !! so i * can * police who uses it !! also, you literally don’t have an argument. you’re just repeating “they have a right to the word queer” except no the fuck they don’t. i will seriously drop kick cishets calling themselves that within a 50 mile radius of me. again ; if you can’t reclaim a slur don’t fucking identify as it ??????. + i never said queer wasn’t an experience. but if it is an experience it’s not a cishet‘s experience that’s for sure. if you’re cishet, you ARE the oppressor regardless of your fucking sex life or lack thereof. belong to a “marginalized sexual orientation” does NOT give you rights to the word because IT WAS NOT HISTORICALLY USED TO OPPRESS CISHET ASEXUALS. that is how reclamation of slurs WORKS. cry about it

[problematic-butnothateful]

"cry about it" lmao says the person trying to deny what is an accepted truth. aspecs are queer, and you screaming about it online won't change that fact. you are the one without a shred of an argument and you proved it when talking about a "sex life". if you think asexuality means "people who don't have sex" you clearly don't even the definition of words you are using

anyways i am very aromantic and extremely queer because of it and little whiny aphobe tears sustain me, so please do continue to shout about how angry it makes you that aspecs take pride in their queer identity

[wastelandbabez]

you just don’t have an argument LMAOO you’re hysterical. btw aphobia isn’t a real problem and doesn’t exist outside of meanie allos on twitter. oh and i’m not mad btw - i clearly won the debate seeing as how you couldn’t come up with an argument so you busted out the claims of “aphobia.” go outside. talk to a queer. the worst discrimination asexuals experience is being called a virgin on the internet. sorry i refuse to validate the “aspec” labels that originated on a dnd sex roleplay site 😨😨 cishets calling themselves queer because they’re virgins is fucking stupid and it will never not be. xo

[problematic-butnothateful]

i literally cannot understand what planet you even come from. "talk to queer people" this will shock you but the major lgbt+ organization in my area includes aspec people. i really suspect you are the one who has never spoken to irl queer people here

honestly this entire reply has me in hysterics "dnd sex roleplay site" this is a new one on the aphobe squad

xoxo please come back from whatever parallel universe you're in i'll be trying to figure out how to live a fulfilling life despite society being structured in a way that harms aros beyond belief

[wastelandbabez]

oh my god also society is not “structured in a way that harms aros beyond belief” i promise you no one is getting thrown in a work camp for not wanting to date someone

[wastelandbabez]

idk who needs to hear this but no, cis+hetero asexuals/aromantics can’t reclaim queer and they certainly can’t identify as queer. because queer is a slur. yes, some people have chosen to reclaim it and even identify with it - and as long as they’re trans or attracted to the same gender that’s great - but that doesn’t mean that it isn’t still a slur.

[anti-anti-a-la-bi-bi]

And that's where you're wrong. First of all, you don't need to be sga or trans to be in the community, bi people who are attracted to nb and the opposite gender, or agender bi people, also exist, for example. Furthermore, do you genuinely think people ask for your sexuality before insulting you? Also, asexuals/aromantic have been included for the community for longer than you've been alive.

Ace/aro people can call themselves whatever they want.

[problematic-butnothateful]

i call myself queer because i'm nonbinary. i call myself queer because i'm bi - and being bi doesn't necessarily make anyone sga, for instance i do not consider myself sga because i am not the same gender as just any nonbinary person. and i call myself queer because i am aromantic, and that facet of myself is just as queer and just as different from being cishet than being nonbinary and bi is. cis heterosexual/heteroromantic aro and ace people have fundamentally different experiences than cishet allos and that experience is queer

[wastelandbabez]

“that experience is queer” do you hear yourself ?? queer is a slur. that’s like saying “asexuals have a different experience so that experience is fag.” it makes no sense whatsoever. i don’t care if they have a “different experience from allocishets”—queer is a slur that’s used to oppress trans people, bisexuals, and homosexuals. if you’re none of those - you can’t say it. it’s not theirs to reclaim because it wasn’t used to oppress them. queer is , again, a slur, not an umbrella term for those with a “different experience” than the norm.

[problematic-butnothateful]

queer is an experience. queer is my experience. do you even hear yourself? queer is no more and no less a slur than the word gay, which you'd know if you based your knowledge on more than whatever echo chamber you have built here in on tumblr. I don't remember ever hearing of "f*g studies", maybe because f*g and queer have a completely different degree of gravity. once again, something everyone knows, proved that they haven't just sat on tumblr reading radfem lite rhetoric would know

there's people who don't want to be called queer because it makes them uncomfortable. there's people who don't want to be called gay because it has been used as a slut against them. hell, there are men out there who refer to themselves as f*g, and women who refer to themselves as d*ke. you are free to call yourself however you wish. but if you don't identify as queer, you have no right to police who can and who can't use that word. being asexual or aromantic means facing discrimination and struggles straight allo people do not face or understand, and belinging to a marginalized sexual orientation means having a right to the word queer

[wastelandbabez]

guess what i do identify as queer !! so i * can * police who uses it !! also, you literally don’t have an argument. you’re just repeating “they have a right to the word queer” except no the fuck they don’t. i will seriously drop kick cishets calling themselves that within a 50 mile radius of me. again ; if you can’t reclaim a slur don’t fucking identify as it ??????. + i never said queer wasn’t an experience. but if it is an experience it’s not a cishet‘s experience that’s for sure. if you’re cishet, you ARE the oppressor regardless of your fucking sex life or lack thereof. belong to a “marginalized sexual orientation” does NOT give you rights to the word because IT WAS NOT HISTORICALLY USED TO OPPRESS CISHET ASEXUALS. that is how reclamation of slurs WORKS. cry about it

[problematic-butnothateful]

"cry about it" lmao says the person trying to deny what is an accepted truth. aspecs are queer, and you screaming about it online won't change that fact. you are the one without a shred of an argument and you proved it when talking about a "sex life". if you think asexuality means "people who don't have sex" you clearly don't even the definition of words you are using

anyways i am very aromantic and extremely queer because of it and little whiny aphobe tears sustain me, so please do continue to shout about how angry it makes you that aspecs take pride in their queer identity

[wastelandbabez]

you just don’t have an argument LMAOO you’re hysterical. btw aphobia isn’t a real problem and doesn’t exist outside of meanie allos on twitter. oh and i’m not mad btw - i clearly won the debate seeing as how you couldn’t come up with an argument so you busted out the claims of “aphobia.” go outside. talk to a queer. the worst discrimination asexuals experience is being called a virgin on the internet. sorry i refuse to validate the “aspec” labels that originated on a dnd sex roleplay site 😨😨 cishets calling themselves queer because they’re virgins is fucking stupid and it will never not be. xo

[problematic-butnothateful]

i literally cannot understand what planet you even come from. "talk to queer people" this will shock you but the major lgbt+ organization in my area includes aspec people. i really suspect you are the one who has never spoken to irl queer people here

honestly this entire reply has me in hysterics "dnd sex roleplay site" this is a new one on the aphobe squad

xoxo please come back from whatever parallel universe you're in i'll be trying to figure out how to live a fulfilling life despite society being structured in a way that harms aros beyond belief

[wastelandbabez]

“you’ve never spoken to irl queer people” i literally only speak to irl queer people. i also am an irl queer people. also, here’s a link https://web.archive.org/web/20150118185254/http://factualwiley.tumblr.com/post/46405111996

https://web.archive.org/web/20150118185254/http://factualwiley.tumblr.com/post/46405111996

[wastelandbabez]

idk who needs to hear this but no, cis+hetero asexuals/aromantics can’t reclaim queer and they certainly can’t identify as queer. because queer is a slur. yes, some people have chosen to reclaim it and even identify with it - and as long as they’re trans or attracted to the same gender that’s great - but that doesn’t mean that it isn’t still a slur.

[anti-anti-a-la-bi-bi]

And that's where you're wrong. First of all, you don't need to be sga or trans to be in the community, bi people who are attracted to nb and the opposite gender, or agender bi people, also exist, for example. Furthermore, do you genuinely think people ask for your sexuality before insulting you? Also, asexuals/aromantic have been included for the community for longer than you've been alive.

Ace/aro people can call themselves whatever they want.

[problematic-butnothateful]

i call myself queer because i'm nonbinary. i call myself queer because i'm bi - and being bi doesn't necessarily make anyone sga, for instance i do not consider myself sga because i am not the same gender as just any nonbinary person. and i call myself queer because i am aromantic, and that facet of myself is just as queer and just as different from being cishet than being nonbinary and bi is. cis heterosexual/heteroromantic aro and ace people have fundamentally different experiences than cishet allos and that experience is queer

[wastelandbabez]

“that experience is queer” do you hear yourself ?? queer is a slur. that’s like saying “asexuals have a different experience so that experience is fag.” it makes no sense whatsoever. i don’t care if they have a “different experience from allocishets”—queer is a slur that’s used to oppress trans people, bisexuals, and homosexuals. if you’re none of those - you can’t say it. it’s not theirs to reclaim because it wasn’t used to oppress them. queer is , again, a slur, not an umbrella term for those with a “different experience” than the norm.

[problematic-butnothateful]

queer is an experience. queer is my experience. do you even hear yourself? queer is no more and no less a slur than the word gay, which you'd know if you based your knowledge on more than whatever echo chamber you have built here in on tumblr. I don't remember ever hearing of "f*g studies", maybe because f*g and queer have a completely different degree of gravity. once again, something everyone knows, proved that they haven't just sat on tumblr reading radfem lite rhetoric would know

there's people who don't want to be called queer because it makes them uncomfortable. there's people who don't want to be called gay because it has been used as a slut against them. hell, there are men out there who refer to themselves as f*g, and women who refer to themselves as d*ke. you are free to call yourself however you wish. but if you don't identify as queer, you have no right to police who can and who can't use that word. being asexual or aromantic means facing discrimination and struggles straight allo people do not face or understand, and belinging to a marginalized sexual orientation means having a right to the word queer

[wastelandbabez]

let me replace queer with faggot and see if you still agree.

faggot is an experience. faggot is no less a slur than the word gay. asexuals have a different experience than allocishets. therefore, all asexuals can reclaim faggot.

do you still agree ? why or why not ?

[problematic-butnothateful]

f*g has almost only been used against mlm or people perceived as such. queer is used by people of every gender and orientation, so long as they're not cis, straight and allo. you really are grasping at straws here

[wastelandbabez]

?? where is your evidence for queer being used against asexual people more than fag LMAO also fyi fag has been used against wlw as well

[wastelandbabez]

idk who needs to hear this but no, cis+hetero asexuals/aromantics can’t reclaim queer and they certainly can’t identify as queer. because queer is a slur. yes, some people have chosen to reclaim it and even identify with it - and as long as they’re trans or attracted to the same gender that’s great - but that doesn’t mean that it isn’t still a slur.

[anti-anti-a-la-bi-bi]

And that's where you're wrong. First of all, you don't need to be sga or trans to be in the community, bi people who are attracted to nb and the opposite gender, or agender bi people, also exist, for example. Furthermore, do you genuinely think people ask for your sexuality before insulting you? Also, asexuals/aromantic have been included for the community for longer than you've been alive.

Ace/aro people can call themselves whatever they want.

[problematic-butnothateful]

i call myself queer because i'm nonbinary. i call myself queer because i'm bi - and being bi doesn't necessarily make anyone sga, for instance i do not consider myself sga because i am not the same gender as just any nonbinary person. and i call myself queer because i am aromantic, and that facet of myself is just as queer and just as different from being cishet than being nonbinary and bi is. cis heterosexual/heteroromantic aro and ace people have fundamentally different experiences than cishet allos and that experience is queer

[wastelandbabez]

“that experience is queer” do you hear yourself ?? queer is a slur. that’s like saying “asexuals have a different experience so that experience is fag.” it makes no sense whatsoever. i don’t care if they have a “different experience from allocishets”—queer is a slur that’s used to oppress trans people, bisexuals, and homosexuals. if you’re none of those - you can’t say it. it’s not theirs to reclaim because it wasn’t used to oppress them. queer is , again, a slur, not an umbrella term for those with a “different experience” than the norm.

[problematic-butnothateful]

queer is an experience. queer is my experience. do you even hear yourself? queer is no more and no less a slur than the word gay, which you'd know if you based your knowledge on more than whatever echo chamber you have built here in on tumblr. I don't remember ever hearing of "f*g studies", maybe because f*g and queer have a completely different degree of gravity. once again, something everyone knows, proved that they haven't just sat on tumblr reading radfem lite rhetoric would know

there's people who don't want to be called queer because it makes them uncomfortable. there's people who don't want to be called gay because it has been used as a slut against them. hell, there are men out there who refer to themselves as f*g, and women who refer to themselves as d*ke. you are free to call yourself however you wish. but if you don't identify as queer, you have no right to police who can and who can't use that word. being asexual or aromantic means facing discrimination and struggles straight allo people do not face or understand, and belinging to a marginalized sexual orientation means having a right to the word queer

[wastelandbabez]

guess what i do identify as queer !! so i * can * police who uses it !! also, you literally don’t have an argument. you’re just repeating “they have a right to the word queer” except no the fuck they don’t. i will seriously drop kick cishets calling themselves that within a 50 mile radius of me. again ; if you can’t reclaim a slur don’t fucking identify as it ??????. + i never said queer wasn’t an experience. but if it is an experience it’s not a cishet‘s experience that’s for sure. if you’re cishet, you ARE the oppressor regardless of your fucking sex life or lack thereof. belong to a “marginalized sexual orientation” does NOT give you rights to the word because IT WAS NOT HISTORICALLY USED TO OPPRESS CISHET ASEXUALS. that is how reclamation of slurs WORKS. cry about it

[problematic-butnothateful]

"cry about it" lmao says the person trying to deny what is an accepted truth. aspecs are queer, and you screaming about it online won't change that fact. you are the one without a shred of an argument and you proved it when talking about a "sex life". if you think asexuality means "people who don't have sex" you clearly don't even the definition of words you are using

anyways i am very aromantic and extremely queer because of it and little whiny aphobe tears sustain me, so please do continue to shout about how angry it makes you that aspecs take pride in their queer identity

[wastelandbabez]

you just don’t have an argument LMAOO you’re hysterical. btw aphobia isn’t a real problem and doesn’t exist outside of meanie allos on twitter. oh and i’m not mad btw - i clearly won the debate seeing as how you couldn’t come up with an argument so you busted out the claims of “aphobia.” go outside. talk to a queer. the worst discrimination asexuals experience is being called a virgin on the internet. sorry i refuse to validate the “aspec” labels that originated on a dnd sex roleplay site 😨😨 cishets calling themselves queer because they’re virgins is fucking stupid and it will never not be. xo

[wastelandbabez]

idk who needs to hear this but no, cis+hetero asexuals/aromantics can’t reclaim queer and they certainly can’t identify as queer. because queer is a slur. yes, some people have chosen to reclaim it and even identify with it - and as long as they’re trans or attracted to the same gender that’s great - but that doesn’t mean that it isn’t still a slur.

[anti-anti-a-la-bi-bi]

And that's where you're wrong. First of all, you don't need to be sga or trans to be in the community, bi people who are attracted to nb and the opposite gender, or agender bi people, also exist, for example. Furthermore, do you genuinely think people ask for your sexuality before insulting you? Also, asexuals/aromantic have been included for the community for longer than you've been alive.

Ace/aro people can call themselves whatever they want.

[problematic-butnothateful]

i call myself queer because i'm nonbinary. i call myself queer because i'm bi - and being bi doesn't necessarily make anyone sga, for instance i do not consider myself sga because i am not the same gender as just any nonbinary person. and i call myself queer because i am aromantic, and that facet of myself is just as queer and just as different from being cishet than being nonbinary and bi is. cis heterosexual/heteroromantic aro and ace people have fundamentally different experiences than cishet allos and that experience is queer

[wastelandbabez]

“that experience is queer” do you hear yourself ?? queer is a slur. that’s like saying “asexuals have a different experience so that experience is fag.” it makes no sense whatsoever. i don’t care if they have a “different experience from allocishets”—queer is a slur that’s used to oppress trans people, bisexuals, and homosexuals. if you’re none of those - you can’t say it. it’s not theirs to reclaim because it wasn’t used to oppress them. queer is , again, a slur, not an umbrella term for those with a “different experience” than the norm.

[problematic-butnothateful]

queer is an experience. queer is my experience. do you even hear yourself? queer is no more and no less a slur than the word gay, which you'd know if you based your knowledge on more than whatever echo chamber you have built here in on tumblr. I don't remember ever hearing of "f*g studies", maybe because f*g and queer have a completely different degree of gravity. once again, something everyone knows, proved that they haven't just sat on tumblr reading radfem lite rhetoric would know

there's people who don't want to be called queer because it makes them uncomfortable. there's people who don't want to be called gay because it has been used as a slut against them. hell, there are men out there who refer to themselves as f*g, and women who refer to themselves as d*ke. you are free to call yourself however you wish. but if you don't identify as queer, you have no right to police who can and who can't use that word. being asexual or aromantic means facing discrimination and struggles straight allo people do not face or understand, and belinging to a marginalized sexual orientation means having a right to the word queer

[wastelandbabez]

let me replace queer with faggot and see if you still agree.

faggot is an experience. faggot is no less a slur than the word gay. asexuals have a different experience than allocishets. therefore, all asexuals can reclaim faggot.

do you still agree ? why or why not ?

[wastelandbabez]

idk who needs to hear this but no, cis+hetero asexuals/aromantics can’t reclaim queer and they certainly can’t identify as queer. because queer is a slur. yes, some people have chosen to reclaim it and even identify with it - and as long as they’re trans or attracted to the same gender that’s great - but that doesn’t mean that it isn’t still a slur.

[anti-anti-a-la-bi-bi]

And that's where you're wrong. First of all, you don't need to be sga or trans to be in the community, bi people who are attracted to nb and the opposite gender, or agender bi people, also exist, for example. Furthermore, do you genuinely think people ask for your sexuality before insulting you? Also, asexuals/aromantic have been included for the community for longer than you've been alive.

Ace/aro people can call themselves whatever they want.

[problematic-butnothateful]

i call myself queer because i'm nonbinary. i call myself queer because i'm bi - and being bi doesn't necessarily make anyone sga, for instance i do not consider myself sga because i am not the same gender as just any nonbinary person. and i call myself queer because i am aromantic, and that facet of myself is just as queer and just as different from being cishet than being nonbinary and bi is. cis heterosexual/heteroromantic aro and ace people have fundamentally different experiences than cishet allos and that experience is queer

[wastelandbabez]

“that experience is queer” do you hear yourself ?? queer is a slur. that’s like saying “asexuals have a different experience so that experience is fag.” it makes no sense whatsoever. i don’t care if they have a “different experience from allocishets”—queer is a slur that’s used to oppress trans people, bisexuals, and homosexuals. if you’re none of those - you can’t say it. it’s not theirs to reclaim because it wasn’t used to oppress them. queer is , again, a slur, not an umbrella term for those with a “different experience” than the norm.

[problematic-butnothateful]

queer is an experience. queer is my experience. do you even hear yourself? queer is no more and no less a slur than the word gay, which you'd know if you based your knowledge on more than whatever echo chamber you have built here in on tumblr. I don't remember ever hearing of "f*g studies", maybe because f*g and queer have a completely different degree of gravity. once again, something everyone knows, proved that they haven't just sat on tumblr reading radfem lite rhetoric would know

there's people who don't want to be called queer because it makes them uncomfortable. there's people who don't want to be called gay because it has been used as a slut against them. hell, there are men out there who refer to themselves as f*g, and women who refer to themselves as d*ke. you are free to call yourself however you wish. but if you don't identify as queer, you have no right to police who can and who can't use that word. being asexual or aromantic means facing discrimination and struggles straight allo people do not face or understand, and belinging to a marginalized sexual orientation means having a right to the word queer

[wastelandbabez]

guess what i do identify as queer !! so i * can * police who uses it !! also, you literally don’t have an argument. you’re just repeating “they have a right to the word queer” except no the fuck they don’t. i will seriously drop kick cishets calling themselves that within a 50 mile radius of me. again ; if you can’t reclaim a slur don’t fucking identify as it ??????. + i never said queer wasn’t an experience. but if it is an experience it’s not a cishet‘s experience that’s for sure. if you’re cishet, you ARE the oppressor regardless of your fucking sex life or lack thereof. belong to a “marginalized sexual orientation” does NOT give you rights to the word because IT WAS NOT HISTORICALLY USED TO OPPRESS CISHET ASEXUALS. that is how reclamation of slurs WORKS. cry about it

[wastelandbabez]

im becoming a discourse blog now so

i hate the term allocishets. grouping allosexual LGBT people in with the oppressor will never not be gross. no, allosexual lesbians / bisexuals / gays are not oppressing heterosexual aromantic people.

[wastelandbabez]

idk who needs to hear this but no, cis+hetero asexuals/aromantics can’t reclaim queer and they certainly can’t identify as queer. because queer is a slur. yes, some people have chosen to reclaim it and even identify with it - and as long as they’re trans or attracted to the same gender that’s great - but that doesn’t mean that it isn’t still a slur.

[anti-anti-a-la-bi-bi]

And that's where you're wrong. First of all, you don't need to be sga or trans to be in the community, bi people who are attracted to nb and the opposite gender, or agender bi people, also exist, for example. Furthermore, do you genuinely think people ask for your sexuality before insulting you? Also, asexuals/aromantic have been included for the community for longer than you've been alive.

Ace/aro people can call themselves whatever they want.

[problematic-butnothateful]

i call myself queer because i'm nonbinary. i call myself queer because i'm bi - and being bi doesn't necessarily make anyone sga, for instance i do not consider myself sga because i am not the same gender as just any nonbinary person. and i call myself queer because i am aromantic, and that facet of myself is just as queer and just as different from being cishet than being nonbinary and bi is. cis heterosexual/heteroromantic aro and ace people have fundamentally different experiences than cishet allos and that experience is queer

[wastelandbabez]

“that experience is queer” do you hear yourself ?? queer is a slur. that’s like saying “asexuals have a different experience so that experience is fag.” it makes no sense whatsoever. i don’t care if they have a “different experience from allocishets”—queer is a slur that’s used to oppress trans people, bisexuals, and homosexuals. if you’re none of those - you can’t say it. it’s not theirs to reclaim because it wasn’t used to oppress them. queer is , again, a slur, not an umbrella term for those with a “different experience” than the norm.

[wastelandbabez]

idk who needs to hear this but no, cis+hetero asexuals/aromantics can’t reclaim queer and they certainly can’t identify as queer. because queer is a slur. yes, some people have chosen to reclaim it and even identify with it - and as long as they’re trans or attracted to the same gender that’s great - but that doesn’t mean that it isn’t still a slur.

[wastelandbabez]

can’t wait to get doxxed by the spicy straights oh god oh fuck i’m terrified 😟😟 /s