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trying to watch the new deltacast but it is so painful to try and process what anyone is saying. theres just too many fucking people man. everyone is cutting each other off and talking over each other constantly
trying to watch the new deltacast but it is so painful to try and process what anyone is saying. theres just too many fucking people man. everyone is cutting each other off and talking over each other constantly
i think the game would have been improved if susie was like "STOP CALLING ME PRINCESS JACKASS" and flowery was like "You got it king. (My King!)" and then he stopped calling her princess and started calling her My King!
(Over)analysing the 'December' Spelling Puzzle Scene
I've been thinking about the scene where Kris and Noelle spell out the word 'December' together over the last couple of days, and I wanted to write a little bit of an analysis on it.
This is a scene that feels very weighty since it's unskippable in the Normal Route. The lack of music encourages a strong focus on the dialogue and the spelling puzzle, and it's the capstone of the Kris and Noelle segment of Cyber City. That, and it also contains the first mandatory mentions of Dess in the game.
Here are some ideas that I have about it!
Breaking down barriers
First of all, this puzzle requires two people to press buttons on either side of a barrier that physically separates them.
The same thing hangs over Kris' head and acts as the foundation for Noelle's path: December. The imagery could not be much clearer - Dess is the thing keeping Kris and Noelle apart, in spite of their prior close friendship. Whether this refers to the disappearance incident alone, or even extends to Dess' habit of smacking and punishing Kris whenever they teased Noelle (seemingly a way that they show affection), something to do with Dess is stopping these two from being closer than they might otherwise be.
The traffic cones that separate Kris and Noelle are only visible when not obscured by the dark buildings in the foreground. These buildings create an effect where light and dark are constantly alternating. In the light, there's a wall between them. In the dark, that wall doesn't exist.
I'm with you in the dark.
So perhaps the Dark Worlds represent an opportunity for Kris and Noelle to close that gap and rekindle their old friendship. This is supported by the fact that during the short period of time that Kris and Noelle are alone together in Cyber City, the two of them start falling back into the habit of teasing each other, Noelle overcomes her fear of mice, and her Boldness stat slowly increases from -12 to 60. If you make Kris tell the Addison that they and Noelle are friends, Noelle is happy to hear them say that. These positive developments are seemingly reset when Noelle is told that she's just dreaming, but what might she think when she finds out it was real after all?
If Noelle is 'that girl' who played with the same Darkners as Kris when they were children, then you could think of the Dark Worlds as a universe originally created by the two of them. These Dark Worlds are places where both of their pasts and traumas can be explored and eventually overcome. The proof is in the puzzle. Noelle spells out the word 'DECEMBER' in a repeat of the spelling bee scenario that we later hear about from Berdly. She might not realise it, but she just safely confronted a small trauma of hers, with Kris by her side.
At the end of the puzzle, Noelle leaps back over the barrier to rejoin Kris, and she reflects on how well Kris knows her.
If the memory of Dess is the thing keeping them apart, then this further implies that once the puzzle of Dess is solved (by finding out what happened to her or whatever else), Kris and Noelle might be able to have a closer relationship once more.
Verticality and Kris' avoidance
There are a couple of vertical sections in the puzzle where Noelle is entirely in the dark, and Kris is entirely in the light.
There's no real reason that there needed to be vertical sections here unless there's some kind of symbolism at play. There are probably a few ways you could interpret it, but my current idea is that this might represent what each of them know or remember about Dess' disappearance. Kris seems to know something, since they are implied to be burdened with guilt over a past incident. But Noelle is 'in the dark' about it, either because she doesn't know or doesn't remember what happened.
There's also a moment where Noelle's sprite reverts to her childhood self while Kris' does not:
This may symbolise the fact that Kris seems to be trying to avoid engaging with their childhood memories, particularly those that involve Noelle.
Colour theory
With the new pairing of Blue and Yellow emerging in Chapter 5, you may have seen some chatter about how Toby likes blue and yellow couples. Alphys and Undyne, Lanino and Elnina, Blue and Yellow, and...?
Well.
Accept no substitutes!
This entire scene is bathed in blue and yellow, down to Kris and Noelle's silhouettes. In fact, everything is so blue and yellow that the pink traffic cones really stand out as being out of place.
So, crazy question: what if Dess were pink? No, not that Pink...
Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh I don't think I want to think too much harder about this comparison right now lmao
Okay but seriously, why else might Dess be associated with pink? Well, pink and yellow is a colour combination that we know well from IMAGE_FRIEND and FRIEND-associated items. There have been some theories arguing that these are Suselle colours, but now that I think about it, Susie is consistently described as 'purple' in both the Light and Dark Worlds, never 'pink'. But if pink and yellow referred to the two Holiday sisters, maybe that could make some sense?
There are also the Flying Aces from Mancountry which are always randomised to be blue and yellow, except for one that's hardcoded to be pink.
...Who knows if this is anything. I'm not married to this idea, haha.
"Someplace new"
After gaining confidence from the puzzles that she and Kris have solved so far, Noelle is the one to take the initiative to jump over the traffic cones and start solving the 'December' puzzle. This may actually be a small hint at Noelle’s ability to boundary break, i.e. reach areas of the map that we and Kris cannot.
So I thought it might be a good idea to look at the rest of her dialogue with her characterisation from Chapter 5’s Weird Route in mind.
Noelle’s desire to “go someplace new” seems to be analogous to her wish to “go somewhere nobody’s ever been before” in the Weird Route. Now, this desire might be more extreme in the Weird Route, but it’s something that she’s been experiencing for a long time. At least, since Dess ‘left’. But in fact:
Dess telling Noelle that she’d take her somewhere new is interesting. It suggests that both of them had a desire to explore the unknown, in a certain sense. If two characters are described as either 'leaving' or wanting to 'leave', might that suggest that Dess' disappearance could have been a similar situation to what we see in the Weird Route - perhaps a suicide or even a boundary break (whether purposeful or not)?
the other day i was watching a deltarune video that was like pretty solid analysis for the most part and then they randomly brought up the breadcrumbs glitch fpr no reason to make some stupid point that made zero sense if you actually had any fucking clue what it was and it made me so angry i immediately gave up on watching any more of the video
