This header+icon combo makes me suffer too.

Negetivity/vent side-blog. I'm so tired.

[jewishevelinebaker]

i get the whole “mormons are cult victims dont be mean to them when they come to your door” but theyre not exactly blameless. theyre responsible for the antisemitism and racism they spread

[jewishevelinebaker]

Yeah mormons are cult victims but theyre still racist and antisemetic and homophobic so

[ceriseal]

i hate it learning that Mormons and Christians have been “celebrating” Passover. hate it here. abort abort abort. can these fucking pricks manage to NOT be violently antisemetic or feel like they have some sort of ownership over Judaism for 2 seconds?

[justsomeantifas]

mormons will baptize anne frank to be mormon after death and then go baptize hitler right next to her.

[whoseventingthere]

I wish my own “friends” werent so weird about jewish things/things relating to jewish people....

[whoseventingthere]

I want to flush tankies into a toilet tank like the stinking turds they are.

Yes I know that’s not how toilets work. But their “logic” and historical claims defy reality so so does this toilet that they belong in.

[whoseventingthere]

“Just a few more days till christmas 1st!!!!” 

(christians/goyim-athiests do not touch)

[whoseventingthere]

“Please don’t talk about jewish culture things, like even mentioning your rabbi or correcting that judaism doesn’t have a hell, it makes me uncomfortable because it is a religion, and I was hurt by christianity when I was raised under it, and that is also a religion, so I have trauma related to all religons even though I know nothing about anything beyond christianity and everything else is just assumptions. What do you mean I’m just doing the work of christian-supremacisy for them? Haha what a funny thing to say, for I am an athiest, not christian.

Anyways, I’m so excite for CHRISTmas this year! :)”

[whoseventingthere]

Goyim: I was raised christian and it hurt me so I am going to make fun the bible.

Jews: Go for it. As is your right. With you there. They hurt us t----

Goyim, every time without fail: [only ever makes fun of the part of the bible that was stolen from Jewish people and then translated weird]

Jews:

[whoseventingthere]

Jews: You are not Jewish. Lilith is not yours to claim. Please stop appropriating Judaism.

White goyim: UM lilith is actually a BABYLONIAN goddess! It's not cultural appropriation! Judaism doesn't own her!

Jews: Even if that was true.....That's not your culture either?????? That's still cultural appropriation??????

White goyim: ["suddenly I can't read" reaction image]

[whoseventingthere]

Facts that piss off goyim who know nothing of the closed practice that is judaism but think they can appropriate it because they hate jews even if they won’t admit it: Lilith is just a girlboss.

(goyim don’t touch you will be blocked on sight)

[whoseventingthere]

I do not want to see or be seen by christians.

(christians/ex-christian atheists/ christian culture atheists do not touch)

[progressivejudaism]

I keep seeing these "keep cops out of synagogues" posts and I do understand the reasoning behind it, but honestly what are we supposed to do? Just let them kill us? Literally every other religion has the right to self-defense, just drive past a church on a Sunday and see all the cop cars, but we're just going to take it bc "uwu can't be problematic"? I'm at a loss

Hi there-

I hear your pain and your frustrations.

This situation is complex because it sits at the crossroads between issues of antisemitism facing the entire Jewish community as well as issues of racism which deeply affect Jews of Color. Many People of Color in the United States do not feel safe around a police presence- and personally as a future rabbi I feel that we need to do everything in our power as Jews to make every single Jew feel comfortable in their worship/learning/social Jewish spaces.

What is the solution to this problem?  I’m not so sure.  

Some would argue that the answer is more guns, some would argue that the answer is to hire private security guards, while many white Jews still maintain that a police presence is vital.  Personally, i believe that all of these possible solutions are problematic for a number of reasons. 

This is THE respectful conversation that we need to be having in the Jewish community right now- so thank you so much for bringing it here.

So friends, how do you think synagogues, camps, JCCs, and other American Jewish institutions can maintain as much safety as possible moving forward as we all look on in horror at the reality of the growth of white nationalism?

[black-yehudi-blog]

The fact is: white/non poc jews while yes still experience anti semitism, do not face the same racist encounters as black jews/jews of color.

many white jews have the privilege of not having to worry about being stopped for their skin color, beaten by cops, or thrown in jail at extreme rates. as a black jew, not only am i worried about my faith being attacked, but i have to worry about being attacked solely based off of my skin color.

we can not stop the rise in white nationalism as long as there is an america— this country promotes and feeds off of white supremacy so the best alternative is to: learn defense strategies and to arm ourselves. we as jews can only really help ourselves, cops are just as anti semitic and many cops are known for having white nationalistic sentiments.

we need to understand we need to protect ALL JEWS including those of color, simply saying what you said @/saltoffical is undermining poc jewish struggles. we need to defend ourselves.

[emperor-of-matzah-deactivated20]

@black-yehudi is right. In addition to the points about racism, we should not be relying on any goyish institutions, for any reason. If we place our protection in the state’s footsoldiers, we’ll have nothing when the state eventually turns on us. And it will. Jewish institutions should be defended by Jewish self-defense organizations: exclusively armed, trained, funded, and staffed by and for Jews. Often times a baker would break shabbat in a shtetl so that everyone else could have hot food, the same ideal should apply here. Even this isn’t enough. We should also be working towards greater economic self-sufficiency and communal cohesion, if we waste our lives in Diaspora at all. 

[whoseventingthere]

While I agree that Jewish people can not trust goyim for our protection and service– which is why some Jewish communities like crown heights (are lucky enough to somehow) have their own neighborhood watch and ambulances/hospitals and Jewish people have their own newspapers/journalism websites— I feel like “we have to arm ourselves” and creating some sorta military squad is NOT going to do us any favors. Sure it would increase our ability to respond but it could also increase the frequency in violent antisemitic attacks from goyim feeling even more justified in their conspiracy theories and be what turns the gov against us, so in the end the casualties we prevent would not outweigh the ones we couldn’t. While I’d love for that and those other things to be possibilities, it’s important we look at history. These things have been tried. Goyim historically use stuff like feeling threatened by us (no matter how imaginary the threat) or us secluding ourselves as reason to attack. Like I’m not saying people shouldn’t economically support their fellow members of the tribe and stick to living more clustered together if that’s what they want to do (and like, having a community is important for survival and all that) but I don’t think it’s an actual solution to actually deter anything. I think it’s unfair and infuriating that this is the case, and it’s not our fault if people are antisemitic or do antisemitic things, but we gotta be careful. They’d always find some other reason to attack us but this won’t prevent anything. I don’t think it’s the “fix”. Honestly I can’t think of immediate solution for protection answers either but we can’t leave it just at this and think “Welp, pack it up, folks! We got a full plan here! We’re all safe now! Nothing more that needs to be done!” 

While I hate synagogue attacks just being another thing for people to hold up for their political agendas, seeing as the only time people care about Jewish people is when they are dead and can use our bodies as platforms and therefor don’t actually care about us as people at all beyond how you’d care about a hammer or a wrench when you need to use them……I feel focusing lots of effort on rallying/striking/supporting campaigns for the broader subject of more gun control is a good use of Jewish groups time. Like, along with something else but like…..well no, yeah there needs to be something else to protect us in the mean time too but like……like I said above…….An organized, armed with weapons force of jews being the main focus of our organization efforts…….Well see what I said above. I dunno. A private security team that isn’t related to the police would be good but..... well maybe I’m contradicting myself in some places, but as a person who spends a lot of time anylizing history, “we gotta arm ourselves and focus on secluding ourselves more” just makes me antsy to read. Gotta slow down and think it over critically. Can’t be rash. 

[transcephalopod]

Aces using cakes & dragons to self victimize (by infantalizing themselves) on a discussion on if someone who's cishet but also doesn't feel either romantic or sexual attraction is LGBT is telling.

you know what? you’re right and you should say it.

[whoseventingthere]

“cishet” <–>  “doesn’t feel either romantic or sexual attraction” 

You excursionists like to just smash random words onto the keyboard huh. 

[transcephalopod]

if someone’s a cis aroace they aren’t cishet but they aren’t LGBT.

if someone’s a cis heteroromantic ace or a cis heterosexual aro they’re cishet.

[whoseventingthere]

 but that’s not what the ask said. And you’re the one who said they’re right without correcting that. 

[transcephalopod]

Aces using cakes & dragons to self victimize (by infantalizing themselves) on a discussion on if someone who's cishet but also doesn't feel either romantic or sexual attraction is LGBT is telling.

you know what? you’re right and you should say it.

[whoseventingthere]

“cishet” <-->  “doesn't feel either romantic or sexual attraction” 

You excursionists like to just smash random words onto the keyboard huh. 

[fish-course]

Me: when asexuals get raped it’s not corrective rape nor is it due to aphobia, it’s a product of misogyny

Inclusionists: oh so ur a rape apologist???????? huh????? you bitch?????? so you sympathize with rapists??????????? is that it????????? bitch???????

Me, a literal rape survivor:

[apersnicketylemon]

Rape apolosgism is the insistance that a victim is lying or incorrect, in part or in whole, about their trauma.

If a person tells you “I was raped, and it was because I am asexual/to correct my asexuality” and your first response is “You’re either lying or wrong, and I do not believe you.”

That’s rape apologism. As in, that’s it’s literal definition.

You can be a rape apologist while being a survivor. Your status as a survivor does not magically stop you from engaging in rape apologism. You, by your own admission, do NOT believe all survivors who share their stories. That is the definition of rape apologism. You are a rape apologist because you do not believe survivors, something you just admitted in this post.

There is no addendum on that definition that says ‘Oh, but if a survivor decides that other’s are lying or incorrect about their own experiences with their trauma then it’s fine!!’ because that’s not how it works. You were not given the right to question someone else’s trauma just because you have your own.

Your actual argument is ‘Not believing other survivors doesn’t make me an apologist because I’m a survivor!!’

[whoseventingthere]

Also I guess (ace) men can’t be raped now. Huh. 

[thehereandqueerdeer]

Gay is a slur

If you feel that is the only way to describe yourself, then so be it

But please understand

That gay was used against this generation

And the previous

And wounds are still fresh in mind.

Gay is a slur

Used to abuse queer people

And it is as much as a slur as dyke and faggot

Please remember that when you use it

[sapiorepulsed]

[yikespedia]

this post is a parody but in liks the worst way possible. long story short, keep laughing at them

[thehereandqueerdeer]

In the worst way possible as in pointing out hypocrisy? Okay.

[warframe]

[estradiol]

Op calls this a parody and yet actually believes that gay is a slur so like what’s the truth

[thehereandqueerdeer]

Parody. As in literally copy-pasted with words switched. There’s a link in the notes.

[uwudiscorse-blog]

But you literally think that

[thehereandqueerdeer]

It was apparently not until the 20th century that the word began to be used to mean specifically “homosexual”, although it had earlier acquired sexual connotations.[2]

The word may have started to acquire associations of immorality as early as the 14th century, but had certainly acquired them by the 17th.[2] By the late 17th century, it had acquired the specific meaning of “addicted to pleasures and dissipations”,[11] an extension of its primary meaning of “carefree” implying “uninhibited by moral constraints”. A gay woman was a prostitute, a gay man a womanizer, and a gay house a brothel.[2] The use of gay to mean “homosexual” was often an extension of its application to prostitution: a gay boy was a young man or boy serving male clients.[12]

Similarly, a gay cat was a young male apprenticed to an older hobo, commonly exchanging sex and other services for protection and tutelage.[2]The application to homosexuality was also an extension of the word’s sexualized connotation of “carefree and uninhibited”, which implied a willingness to disregard conventional or respectable sexual mores.

Two quotes from the wikipedia article on the word gay with the sources provided in that wiki left in-tact. [x]

Gay was actually used to imply that people in same gender relationships were immoral before gay was used to refer to the sexuality.

[uwudiscorse-blog]

Shut up ur gæ

[thehereandqueerdeer]

Okay, so you can’t extend the same courtesy to people who don’t want to be called gay, even after personal anecdotes of having had gay thrown at me as a slur and with a provided source showing gay having negative connotations before the past couple decades and before it was used as a personal identifier. Good to know.

[uwudiscorse-blog]

Gay means homosexual

Queer means freak, weird or unnatural

IT’S OK TO BE GAY AND YOUR SEXUALITY ISN’T BAD OR A SLUR

Would you rather be called a homosexual or a freak because you like your own gender

[thehereandqueerdeer]

Hey, people asking me where people are saying we shouldn’t personally identify as queer? This is the absolutely best example of it. Right here.

I have the right to choose what word I use to describe my orientation and gender. That word that I’ve chosen is queer. Not gay, because that’s been used in an extremely harmful way against me (and you continuing to insist I’m gay is very disrespectful). Not homosexual, because I’m uncomfortable with that word because the medicalization of non-straight orientations bothers me a lot, and homosexual has a history of being used in such a way.

I’m queer. I’m not gay.

You continuing to insist otherwise is hypocritical, because I’m sure you think calling a gay person queer against their will is bad, right? But apparently calling a queer person gay against their will is totally fine.

[uwudiscorse-blog]

Ok freak

You wanna be called a freak

Fine then queer

[thehereandqueerdeer]

I. I just. Are you kidding me right now?

My identity is queer. But using queer specifically in the context of using it as a slur against me is different than calling me queer because that’s my identity.

You doing this specifically harms all LGBT+ people because it continues to perpetuate that it’s acceptable to use queer as a slur.

How do you not see the difference between respecting those who reclaim queer by letting us identify as queer and using queer specifically as an anti-LGBT+ slur? How on earth do you not recognize how fucked up and homophobic this is?

[whoseventingthere]

If it makes you feel any better in their description they call themselves a conservative christian. So unlike other queerphobes here who just (somehow unknowingly????) recycle the bigotted rhetoric of conservative christians....so there is even less of a point than usual trying to debate them. THOUGH they also might just be a troll. Either way this nerd needs a life..... And I'm so sorry they disrespected you like that. You are here and you are queer and you are a dear deer.