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I’m actually laughing at how many people worked on the script and somehow unanimously agreed it was good for release
Noah: **reads the script and starts crying, followed by everyone else at the table**
The duffer brothers: you guys, we’ve done it. We’ve written the perfect emotional ending 🥹
Everyone at the table read: 10 years of my life. 10 years.
That was genuinely the biggest piece of shit I’ve ever watched in my entire life. I knew byler wasn’t gonna happen this season but I trusted the duffer brothers enough to give us good closure for this 10 year long story.
Never put your trust in film bros.
I can’t even be mad that byler didn’t happen because of how terrible the rest of it was. Like they couldn’t close ANY storyline.
ST5 FINALE SPOILERS!!!
DID ANYONE ELSE NOTICE THIS CLIP OF EPILOGUE WILL AND JONATHAN IN NOAHS NEW VIDEO ON HIS COMING OUT SCENE ON INSTAGRAM?
according to the Duffer brothers Will's 'self acceptance' journey is the most important thing to allow Will to defeat Vecna and that's why byler most likely isn't happening because he shouldn't need the acceptance of others he just needs to find love in himself.
BUT Vecna infiltrates his mind and shows him people not accepting him so in order to stop being scared of that and destroying the one thing Vecna has on him he comes out to everyone? Like the key to combatting Vecna is everyone accepting him? That's literally not self acceptance at all. They're just using this self acceptance thing as an excuse to not include a gay love story. If it was always about self acceptance then why did he have to come out and get validated by everyone
Crazy things happening on twitter😭😭😭😭i mean thank you
if byler isn't canon not only will i start off my new year bawling my eyes out i will also be in immense pain as i have made a month long bet with my friend that if byler is not canon i have to take a shot of hot sauce. not sure why i agreed to this as i have the lowest spice tolerance known to man
Stranger things was actually cancelled after the 4th season and we’re all in a shared psychosis right now
Bylers, listen up.
I know this volume wasn’t a good sign for us. I know it’s been hard. But we have come so far and for what? To give up now? To lose faith? When have we EVER done that to ourselves. I know this situation isn’t great but we can’t lost hope- not yet. Not until the very last second of the final episode. There’s still a light at the end of the tunnel and I urge you to keep looking. Keep looking for them. Byler isn’t a lost cause yet, FIND THE LIGHT. SEARCH AND MAKE THEORIES UNTIL EVERY SECOND OF EVERY EPISODE IS COVERED. Think outside the box.
We’ve got this
I was right it at what cost…
Ok but how did Will go so quickly from being confused about how Mikes feelings were towards him (asking Robin how she knew vickie wanted to date) to say that’s he’s his TAMMY??
I think the worst part of it all is the fact that it’s STILL unresolved and they’re dragging it on until the final episode. If they wanted byler to not be canon then have Mike and Will talk after that scene, don’t make us wait and get hopeful again for another week before shattering us completely again
I actually can’t show my face in public again after this
How some GA bitches feel like after saying “They’ll play End Of Beginning on the last episode!”
Thank you to the duffer brothers for releasing volume 2 after my exams so I have a reason not to go completely insane
You could tell me that i dreamed this and i would probably fucking believe you
Why Will is going to have a villain arc in part 2 and how this could lead to a byler confession
I'm back with another byler theory and this one has been scratching at my brain for the past few days as I try to put the pieces together.
We were all shocked during the end of season 5 when Will managed to take control of the hive mind and use it against Vecna with his new powers. But I noticed something whilst rewatching the scene.
We were teased with certain clips of Will and Vecna in the official trailer. Of course, these were taken out of context. HOWEVER, one thing stuck out to me about what they showed in the trailer.
The clips are dubbed over with Vecna's voice saying the phrase "William, you are going to help me one last time"
Only... Vecna never says that. He doesn't say it in those scenes or in any of part 1. This means they took this from a scene in part 2. "You are going to help me one last time" is very clearly indicating that he will use Will as a spy just like he did in season 2. However, I don't believe the way he uses him will be the exact same.
In season 2, Vecna (or the mind flayer as we knew at the time) used Will as a spy to lure the soldiers into the tunnel system as to stop the military from tampering with the upside down. Now the circumstances have changed and he's going to need Will for a different use. But what?
First off, I don't think Will is going to "just be" a spy. Vecna can tap into the minds of others- we've seen it with Holly and Will already in this season. He doesn't necessarily need Will to see what the others are doing or planning. Sure, he could do that, but he can use Will for something much greater.
He could use Will as a vessel.
Vecna is planning something big and for some unknown reason, he barely leaves the upside down. The only time we've seen him was when he exited the gate from the Mac-Z to revive the demogorgons and taunt Will. This means that what he is currently working on requires him to be in a specific hideout. This is why he uses the demogorgons as his henchmen to take the children instead of directly getting them himself.
If Will can control the hive mind, it can be the same visa versa. Vecna can control HIM. But what would he need him for? The simplest answer is to sabotage the group in order to slow down their plans. But I believe there is one thing Vecna could force Will to do.
Vecna is going to have Will attempt to kill Mike.
Yes, this is a bit out there. But think of the benefits Vecna has if this plan is successful
This throws Eleven completely off guard as she loves Mike and could lose her focus if he dies
This directly hurts Nancy as it's her brother and leaves her without her entire family
Mike is a group leader and gets everyone to follow the plan. Without him, order could be thrown off. This also goes for the distraction of Nancy as she is a group leader as well
Most of all, it hurts Will. Will's powers are driven by love- that's how he harnesses them in the first place. Will is a major threat to Vecna seeing as he can control the hive mind. Killing Mike is one thing, but having Will kill Mike ensures that Will loses everything. Not only does he lose the boy he's in love with, he loses his sense of identity. He loses control in himself. And in the hopes of not hurting anyone again, he could give up on everything
We also know that Vecna is specifically targeting the Wheeler household. He shows Nancy visions of her family dying and he takes Holly as his first victim. The demogorgons also mutilate Ted and Karen. This leaves Mike as the last one Vecna can target.
Another key point is that Shawn Levy confirmed both Mike and Will are going to have large roles in season 5. Will's importance is obvious as he has these new powers he needs to control + the villain arc. But Mike? Currently his role is rather small. He's a group leader, sure. But so is Nancy.
Now, how is this circumstance going to lead into a byler confession (and potentially a kiss). Well, it all parallels back to season 2 back when Will was first possessed.
We all remember this beautiful scene. The love Will felt from Mike, Jonathan, and Joyce, gave him the power to semi break through the possession and tap his hand in morse code (the same hand that Mike held in a previous episode may I add).
Mike definitely remembers this. If he knows Will is under the influence of Vecna, he'll need to bring Will out of that trance with affirmations of their "friendships". But I don't believe those will be strong enough. After all, they weren't strong enough the first time. They only freed one of his hands. And Vecna has grown stronger- a simple "best friend" speech won't be enough. And I think Mike will realise this too.
Now, I do believe a confession of love could be strong enough to free Will of Vecna's control. But in the chance of it not, there's one thing that will definitely work.
BYLER KISS!!!
Ok, hear me out. This isn't just me fangirling at the possibility of them kissing. I do think there is a lot of evidence for this being the way to get Will out of the trance.
First off, what I mentioned before. Will's hand that tapped morse code was the one that Mike held. So, physical contact such a kiss could work. But of course that's not a very strong argument. So, I present my favourite piece of evidence coming directly from season 5.
Ah, this beautiful beautiful line. I'm sure you've all heard the theories behind this one. It insinuates that Will would forgive his partner if they'd kiss him. (So cute I'm actually dying).
People use this to say that Mike and Will could be mid argument in a classic angsty byler fight when Mike just kisses him. But I think this could be more of a snow white situation. Mike's kiss would give Will the power to break free from the trance. A true loves kiss if you will.
I also think in general Mike's internalised homophobia is so intense he wouldn't go anything unless it were a life or death situation. And this situation is very much life or death.
I'm very much here for this theory and I hope you all like it! Let me know if you think of any other pieces of information to strengthen this :))