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this oneâs for you jimmy fallon
I couldn't have said it better. This is why Stranger Things ending was the biggest flop. Had they gone a different direction, the ending would reverberating around the world positively like Heated Rivalry is right now. Not only did Netflix miss the boat, they hopped on the titanic.
and then they both thought they didn't deserve any
No please no, Mike and Will are now happy and gay, they are living in NY, Mike is writing comic and Will is drawing them.
will byers deserved better
el hopper deserved better
mike wheeler deserved better
@prudeau okay but this is exactly where the filmmaking side becomes impossible to ignore. when you look at the sheer consistency of mikeâs eyeline dropping to willâs mouth, across seasons, across directors, across different cinematographers with different visual instincts, youâre not looking at coincidence. youâre looking at a choice thatâs been protected at every stage of production: blocking, performance, coverage, editing.
actors donât repeatedly stare at someoneâs lips unless theyâre directed to. cinematographers donât frame for it unless itâs intentional. editors donât keep those takes unless theyâre serving a narrative beat. and these arenât willâpov shots. the camera is aligning us with mikeâs internal state. weâre watching him watch will. thatâs a very specific cinematic grammar.
and the mouth is one of the most loaded focal points you can give a character. itâs intimate, anticipatory, romantic. if the intention were purely platonic, the visual language would shift, wider two shots, neutral eyelines, gestures that read as friendly rather than charged. but the show keeps choosing the romantic grammar of cinema. and once you understand that grammar, itâs impossible to unsee.
which leads to the real question: if all of this visual signalling wasnât meant to build toward something, then why preserve it? why repeat it? why escalate it? because in filmmaking, you donât reinforce a motif unless itâs serving a payoff, emotional, narrative, or thematic. otherwise it gets cut for clarity.
and honestly, at this point you can call the lip glances part of the queer baiting of byler. not because the moments are fake, the camera language is too deliberate for that, but because the show keeps deploying romantic visual cues without giving the characters the narrative space to resolve them. itâs the classic tension between what the cinematography is saying and what the script is willing to say out loud.
and thatâs exactly why the lack of payoff in volume 2 and the finale feels so jarring. the visual language had already done the heavy lifting. the emotional groundwork was there. the camera had been telling the same story for four seasons, escalating it, sharpening it, making it harder and harder to read as anything but romantic tension. so when the narrative swerved away from resolving it, it wasnât just disappointing; it was a break in the contract between the cinematography and the script.
because if the show truly intended nothing, the simplest fix wouldâve been to stop shooting it that way. but they didnât. they doubled down. they let the camera keep telling a story the dialogue refused to finish.
so the question isnât just âwhy didnât byler get the payoff in volume 2 and the finale?â itâs also âwhy did the camera spend four seasons paying it off if the script wasnât eventually going to follow?â
not to be sappy on main, but I'm thinking about how fulfilling it must have been for Shane's parents to hear the way he said "my boyfriend?". imagine seeing your highly guarded, anxious loner child sound so hopeful and vulnerable with a partner who casually and easily comforts him when he panics. I feel like that was a bigger shock than him being gay or hooking up with his rival (from Boston, ick!) for 10 years. I probably would have started sobbing like a baby. for all that they might feel guilt that Shane felt like he needed to hide from them, there's immense relief that he has Ilya, that whatever mistakes they made as parents didn't stop them from falling in love.
How did they manage to continue queerbaiting INTO THE CREDITS
GUYS . .... . ..... .
âByler wasnât queerbaitâ mfs when I pull up receipts
No bc they queerbaited until the last. Fucking. Second. Literally even had Mike be like âmoreâ when referring to his and Willâs friendship, had Will have a glint of hope in his eyes, and then made Mike say âbest friends.â Are you fucking kidding. They were literally baiting us until the last possible second.
Is this our fandom name now?!? I lowkey love it
heated rivalry was always going to be huge. people think that it was this big surprise that came out of nowhere and they didnt expect it to get as far as it has, but there was no way it wasnt going to be huge. right now in hollywood there has been such a widespread epidemic of bloated networks and money hungry execs who are just looking to create as much trash as possible in the least amount of time, and the same five overpaid celebrities willing to phone it in to make a quick buck. everyone is getting sick and tired of seeing loveless art, underpaid writers, and hundreds of millions of dollars wasted. heated rivalry at its core is a passion project, and it has stayed that way the whole time. it literally started as a stucky fanfic for godsake. it was created purely just for the love of storytelling. and then it was picked up by jacob tierney, a gay man who just loved the book and wanted to create a script for no other reason than he just liked it. it wasnt to please any network or to fill any agenda or quota, and hes been very vocal about how he intentionally steered away from people who wanted to change and censor it.
it was just this perfect storm of an author who cared, a director/writer who cared, who then found a whole cast of small no name actors on a budget of $2, and everyone went into it with no expectations. purely for the love of the game. every single person went into this EXPECTING it to not do well. with the mindset of, well, if it doesnt do well and only 5 people see it, at least i gave it my all and im proud of what we accomplished.
thats the difference that people are seeing, and why everyone is connecting to it so much. its such a breath of fresh air to see people who actually give a shit about the story, the characters, the fans. we live in a world where we constantly have to deal with shitty products, shitty companies, shitty conditions, like weve given up on hoping for better. but this show and these people said, actually no, it CAN be better, here you go. actually something that you want that doesnt leave you frustrated and annoyed and upset and wanting more. like i cant think of a single thing they could've done better. when was the last time you could honestly say you cant think of anything to complain about? isnt that wild?
In case you weren't sure, "Ember & Ice" was legit written post-Heated Rivalry specifically for Connor Storrie and Hudson Williams. It's not just the rivalry and secret romance - there is dialogue that calls back to Heated Rivalry. HR fans, they came for us specifically.
these days when you are tired of stranger things discourse, homophobes trashing out Will's coming out, and the fear of the potential ruin of the end of the show bc of bad writing, you just have to look at what Connor Storrie and Hudson Williams are up to and suddendly all is well in the world again
One of the casting directors for Heated Rivalry is Jenny Lewis, who is Avi Lewisâs sister, Stephen Lewisâs daughter and Naomi Kleinâs sister in law! I love that this super Canadian production somehow got even more Canadian. đđ¨đŚ
Canadian wolf bird. This brings back memories.
As someone who lives in Ottawa, itâs quite absurd and surreal to think of how this city has entered the consciousness of Heated Rivalry fans all over the world because we are quite honestly the butt end of a joke 90% of the time, if mentioned at all.
And while this city is famously known for being boring (much like our boy Shane), it offers so much for a season 2 Ilya running montage.