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Welcome to the Zelda2 Comic Blog!

After much postponing, I decided to create this blog to keep track of this comic’s development and sharing the process with the world! Its been going on and off for about 2 years, but now that I am starting this blog, I am determined to finally put things down on paper and getting it started for real! I am very much a fan of Zelda2 despite its’ many flaws and drawbacks, and this is the very reason why I’m doing this comic. Zelda2 leaves much room to the imagination, and the plot and gameplay have great potential to be expanded upon. I want to be able to make the whole story work while sticking as close as possible to established canon and the hectic timeline.

It might sound daunting and complicated, but it is possible! I have somehow been able to establish a lot of the background story and flesh out the lore in a way that complies to the canon (There is SO MUCH hidden lore in the manual story and in-game content. There is plenty to work with [[Yes I WILL add valiant comic references 😉]] ).

SO, there are several reasons why I’m doing this project, including:

Fleshing out the world of Zelda 1 / 2, make it as deep and lore heavy as newer loz games (Probably the MOST fun part >:D)

I would really love to see Zelda2 as a comic, it just feels epic and it deserves a comic.

I love Zelda 2.

One reason for why I want to share what I am working on for this comic is because I would like to hear what others have to say. There are not many Zelda2 players out there to consult, so if you ever have any questions or ideas you’d like to propose to be explored in the comic, then please go ahead and send it in an ask! This is still a work in progress, so I’ll keep sharing little things here and there as I go!

(Beware, content here may very likely include spoilers for the comic, particularly plot points that I come up with for sake of story/drama/tension/etc. Posts with story spoilers will be tagged)

(Extra warning: there will probably be blood and gore. It’s Zelda 2 after all).

#intro #Thank you for your interest :)

I don't know if this is still being made, but I wanna say I reaaaaally love stuff like this. I have always adored this era of Zelda and it's nice to see people that are passionate about it too and wanna expand it. All the stuff on this blog is so good ahah

This project isn't cancelled exactly. On hold to focus on an original project I'm working on (can be seen in my main blog: https://yasmeensh.tumblr.com/)

But Zelda 2 still lingers in my brain and I still add little bits here and there when idea pop up about Zelda lore and their relevance to Zelda 2.

I encourage everyone to send in their ideas about the world in Zelda 2! It's all about fleshing out this game. And I am more than happy to include everyone's input into the project. I want it to be the vision that all fans of Zelda 2 see, so everyone's contribution is welcome!

I noticed the Hyrule Encyclopedia gave alot of origins to the Palace bosses like Rebonack was a former guard, Horsehead was created from a royal stallion and such. Do you plan to cover them or the Sage guarding the Tri Force of Courage?

It does! Rebonack being a former knight is a cool concept too. I can imagine it when they were preparing the palaces, they were choosing the guardian of each one. He probably stepped up/was chosen to be a guardian. He'll live eternally in the palace until the hero comes and defeat him. In the Hylian perspective it must be a most honorable thing. sacrificing the rest of his life to protect the Triforce. Nothing could be more glorious. On the other hand, you have this strange tidbit on the wizard.

Now this does not add up with Zelda2's story because the Prince is not supposed to know about the palaces, or if aware, does not know their greater purpose or know their location. So it's strange that the wizard was banished to the palaces. The only way this could work is the Shiekah doing it. They 100% know the Triforce of courage is being protected by the palaces. Maybe it was even the Impa of that time period doing it. I must say it's a very cool move if that's the case. "You won't be executed. live eternally until the hero chosen by the goddess kills you himself". Technically, Zelda took her revenge on the magician 😉. The sage protecting the Triforce is a whole topic too. I'm assuming he had the same magic done on him that made the monsters and guardians live forever until the hero comes. It seems this is the sage that caused Link's shadow to move to attack. He might be one of the seven sages? It's the most likely thing. (also, seven temples and seven sages. What if the guardians were really just the sages in spirit or shapeshifted or something. the possibilities are endless)

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Will you elaborate on the Ganon cult too? Its interesting that alot of fans think of Moblins, Goriyas, Lizalfos/Geru and such as just mindless beasts, but their behavior in Zelda II shows alot of coordination and planning.

We could say they are similar to botw monsters. they are kinda mindless, but they do have the ability to form groups and divide tasks (lookouts, archers, heavy weapon users, etc) But in the world of the original loz they are probably more intelligent. A moblin speaks in zelda1 (says "It's a secret to everybody" and gives link rupees). The aches (keese) are also remarkably intelligent. they shapeshift into hylians and walk around town and interact with others, and there is also the friendly ache that lives in Nabooru town. So in way... they seem to have their own free-will. They are not monsters that exist to kill. A big number of them may have willingly joined Ganon, and maybe others were controlled and made to join. Ganon is powerful so he can totally do that. Somewhat like how Ganon controlled the guardians in botw. And let's not forget the Zora!!! That entire civilization seemed to have wholly decided to join Ganon, or simply become hostile to Hylians (They've always been, but downfall era they won't hesitate to kill) It will be interesting to explore that aspect in the culture of the everyday Hylian. I can imagine little kids constantly being warned of getting too close to bodies of water or "The Zora will eat you". There'd probably be a dozen folk stories of people getting attacked by Zoras. When we think of monsters as being intelligent and having free-will, it hits that Link really does kill them with that awareness in mind.

Yup it was the Ran Maru manga, the Prince of Hyrule may be older than Zelda and that was why inherited the Throne I suppose? Though he doesn't look that old in the only illustration, but that may have been to emphasize him being immature? Come to think of it, can the non depictions of the Magician & Prince in Impa's flashback really be viewed as concrete, after all Impa never met the Prince or his Magician?

extremely good points right there. The prince is certainly young, probably around his 20s. Since Hyrule has been living in prosperity and luxury for a long time now, he probably lacked experience too. I doubt he had to independently handle any serious issues when his father was still around and accompanied by his advisors. Princess Zelda is the carrier of the Goddess' blood and the Triforce of wisdom, so that covers for why she's more sensible and mature, even while being younger than the prince. Impa is probably just retelling the passed down story. The Shiekah are ones who keep the royal family's secrets, so they are probably aware of the story and have records of it. I'd also assume they are aware of the full Triforce. Impa's depiction is obviously very simplified and to the point. I think I'll just change plans and make a comic fleshing out the Golden era and it's decline. There is so much to explore there 👀

You know the manga adaptation raised the interesting idea that the Magician and the Prince of Hyrule were good friends, which may explain alot why the Prince trusted his decision making so much.

Is it the one by Ran Maru?

This mangaka has some absolutely fantastic ideas and concepts developed for the Adventure of Link. From storyline to little things like item uses. It's incredible!

It's an interesting idea to have the magician and the prince be good friends. The manual does actually say the magician was close to the king. It makes me think about WHY Princess Zelda never became queen and her brother took her place instead. She definitely seems very fit for the role since she was trusted with the Triforce's hidden location. But then again, the rulers of Hyrule have always been kings, not queens. I wonder if this is because the queens and princesses of Hyrule have more of a 'saint' role rather than a ruler. A Triforce keeper, basically, who protects the Kingdom and realms through magic, while the king's role is to deal with diplomatic and political affairs. With that explanation, their roles make more sense. Since it was the golden era, it probably became prosperous enough that even the kings began to have access to the Triforce. Since the current king sensed something bad will happen in the future, or the queen advised him (The Prince doing bad things with the Triforce/falling into the influence of a certain somebody *coughmagiciancough* or that Princess Zelda might be in danger *againthemagician*) he decided to entirely hide the Triforce of courage to avoid any and all threats, and put in place the older arrangement of king and female Triforce keeper (because as the carrier of Hylia's blood, she can use the Triforce's full potential). If we do use this explanation, it'd totally make sense of the Prince's frustration. It isn't a matter of only the princesses using the Triforce because they carry the blood of the goddess. Even his father and the kings before him were allowed to use it. why not him? Why are they suddenly back to the system before the Golden Era? The possibilities and different scenarios are endless... Oh my gosh you know what. Maybe I'll just make a whole comic about the Legend of Zelda and how the Era of Decline began. Now that would be a lot more interesting that just making it a segment of the zelda2 comic >:)

#prince of hyrule #I think I can talk forever about the legend of zelda and the golden era

About the last post, i have a theory about the Downfall timeline Zoras that is a bit dark: they were been cursed by Ganon to become hostile against Hyruleans during the Imprisoning War, and seeing the catastrophic results of the war, that's not very out of place, but what about the other species you may ask? Simple, they were extinct... D: OR NOT! who knows if the boulders on Zelda 1 may be cursed Gorons begging for the end of their meaningless and sad lives, but knowing nothing can be done...

Zora do seem to be especially hostile to Hylains in the downfall timeline compared to any other (besides Breath of Wild, which we still don't know where it sits). The imprisonment war is known to have wiped out nearly all of the Knights, and possibly other inhabitants (Zora, Gorons, Gerudo, etc). Since this entire war happened because of a power that was bestowed exclusively upon Hylians (The Triforce) It's understandable that anyone else not Hylian will be frustrated with all the troubles Hylians and their very existence keep causing. With a curse or not, the Zoras will always be very very angry about that. Though a curse does seem likely in this case, Zoras have progressively downgraded until they reached their current form in Zelda2 (Some Zoras might still have their original form i.e lttp-zelda1 form. But these Zoras have been completely controlled by Ganon's magic and consumed by hatred.

HOWEVER! If you look at Oracle of Ages and Seasons, they still have Zoras that look like pre-downfall timeline, and Gorons still exist! In Oracle of Ages, King Zora is revealed to be living in the seas south of Labrynna. So is Jabu Jabu. Gorons also live in Labrynna and Holodrum. it seems there has been a mass migration of both species. They all abandoned Hyrule to let Hylians deal with it themselves. Those who remained have probably been influenced by Ganon's magic. No wonder Hyrule feels so empty in the downfall timeline. If you look at ALTTP's manual, it says that it was 'thieves' who are skilled in magic that first tried to get the Triforce. When Ganon got it first, those same people and others joined him to become his army. and those were apparently Hylians, not other species. So it is safe to assume Wizzrobes might be Hylians who were consumed by dark magic and became nearly immortal monstrous beings, like what happens to Hylains when they enter the Dark World. P.S. another ALTTP manual fun fact: It mentions that there are rumors of the Triforce being hidden in a cemetary by Death Mountain (like the cemetary in zelda1). in the context of Zelda 1/2 it fits really well. Imagine the amount of graverobbing incidents! and there are SO MANY cemeteries spread out across Hyrule.

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Wizzrobes and monsters

I’m thinking about design ideas for Wizzrobes, so I looked at some official and concept art for Wizzrobes across the series.

There is an ongoing ‘mask’ or ‘beak’ motif in a lot of the designs. the following are two different versions of a Wizzrobe from zelda1. One with a nose and the other with a beak.

The nose version seems to be the one adopted for Breath of the Wild. On the other hand, the beak reminds me of Wind Waker’s Wizzrobes

Zelda 2 has an artwork of a wizzrobe with a mask

(The lines under the mask might just be shadow hatching, but if they were teeth that would be pretty epic) Breath of the wild’s concept art shows that they did explore these different design choices for wizzrobes. ‘beak-like’, mask, classic all shadowed face (looks like a poe?), and the final design with the amazing spooky grin.

I’ve got to say the purple guy looks cool. but a bit too humanoid to be a monster? It looks like it could be a character that thinks and speaks. imagine killing that. A Link to the Past also has human-looking wizzrobes. They look more like evil wizards than monsters. (In that case... are wizzrobes EVEN monsters? What if they are really just people?) In that case, maybe we can make wizzrobes actual characters in the comic... hmmm. Since Ganon is being revived through a sacrifice, someone intelligent and proficient in magic will probably be taking care of that, so it is no other than Ganon’s trusty wizzrobes who will undertake the mission. (We know not ALL monsters in classic loz are animalistic creatures. Moblins speak in zelda1 (and exchange money with Link lol)

And then are are Zoras, who act like monsters, but we know they are intelligent creatures with a whole society of their own. (who knows how badly their situation has gotten by zelda1/2, but at least during the time of LTTP there was still a functioning Zora society. There is the Zora King, and later Queen Oren in ALBW). Zoras have become extremely hostile to Hylians (Well, they always were. But at this point they are willing to kill). there might still be a Zora Kingdom existing without the knowledge of Hylians at this point in the timeline.

Any and all enemies in the palaces are 100% not living creatures, because they were all set up by the past King as a test for the triforce of courage. They may as well all be phantom enemies summoned by magic. They’ve been waiting in those palaces for hundreds of years. But overworld enemies are very real and very alive, so it’s interesting to explore how many of them can be treated as ‘wild animals’ of Hyrule, or as creatures that think, speak, and communicate. Wizzrobes might be able to pass that test and be considered intelligent creatures, and that alone can influence the final design.

#wizzrobes #monsters #concepts #discussion

We all know that in the ending of the comic you will make Link and Zelda kiss ;) but it's just that or you plan to develop their romance? If so, how will you do it since Zelda is mostly sleeping?

This may come as a surprise to some, but romance in this comic will be very minor, and the stronger relationship will be between the current Zelda and Link. They’ve known each other for 6 years now (manual says between zelda1 and 2 is 6 years, so I’m going off of that) and since it mentions Link was working on rebuilding Hyrule in that period of time, I’m sure he worked closely with Zelda. as a result, these two will have a strong friendship between them. As for the sleeping Zelda, I think a kiss on the cheek will do haha, like classic 80s endings. elder Zelda just woke up after hundreds of years, it’s hard to know if she was aware of what happened to her or simply blacked out after getting cursed. I think I’ll go to the “is aware” route because there is strong evidence she knows she’s been asleep for hundreds of years. For one, the magician told her he’d curse her to eternal sleep if she wouldn’t tell him where the Triforce is, so she knows what the consequences are (mentioned in the manual). Moreover, she most likely knows the contents of the letter her father left for the destined hero. The king is already writing it like he’s sure no one will show up at least in the next couple decades to claim the Triforce, so the Princess probably expects as much. Since she wakes up and sees that the Triforce is assembled, 100% she’ll start connecting the dots and figure out what happened. She’s the wise Princess Zelda after all :) back to the romance part, I have a couple ideas for a solid ending. If we look back at the manual, Impa shows Link the passed-down letter and says a great king will come, and he’ll be the only one who can read it. And of course, Link was able to read it. So.... are they expecting Link to be the next king of Hyrule? If Link ends up giving up on traveling, he’ll likely marry the current Princess Zelda and be the prophesized great king of Hyrule. What do you all think about that? 👀 Do you want to see Link become King of Hyrule, or should he peruse his adventuring dreams? (i don’t know if he’ll want to keep traveling anyways considering Ganon’s minions are still after him..... unless.... he does something about it after getting the trifroce..............hmmmm seal ganon away??? extended ending?) We’ll see :)

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Do you have a name for Zelda I's brother?

I’ve had the name “Damian” sitting in my files. Means ‘to tame’ or ‘subdue’. I think that’s what he’s been trying to do with himself the whole time... getting over his obsession with the Triforce, which he ultimately lost. It’s the placeholder for now, but I think I will adopt it as his name if no other idea pops up.

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I'm also real fond of Zelda2! I'm not normally into those classic superhard NES games but something about it just kept me invested even through the punishing combat. I think it's because it's so unique within the series. Like even though I have a soft spot for 2 I was never able to really get into Zelda1, and I think that's because there's nothing in that game that A Link to the Past doesn't do better. But Zelda2 is weird and unique and it has cool spells, so I still enjoy it!

That’s very true! Zelda2 is a completely unique experience from other loz games. The first zelda is really the basis for all other games so the style is similar, just as you said. Zelda2 feels like a whole other game, but still has that zelda vibe, story, and characters. The magic is probably its most unique aspect. Other games have magic too, but are only used in specific, rare circumstances. Zelda2 gives you the spells and throws at you numerous situations to use them both out of necessity or as a way to get creative (use jump to go over rooftops or dodge enemies). Spells in Zelda2 are sort of like how runes function in botw. I’m sorry i keep repeating the record but every time i think about zelda2 i find more similarities to botw lol.

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How did you get into Zelda2? It’s pretty unliked by most so I find it interesting you like it. (That wasn’t meant to sound mean, sorry I just don’t know how else to put it)

No worries! I was never able to get new Nintendo games until recently, so before that I indulged in Nintendo through emulation. Thus, all the games I played were the ones between the NES and GBA (This is why I’m generally into the older games... because they were the only ones I could play lol). One way or another I started to play Zelda2, and it was SO DIFFICULT. I quit and came back so many times, but when I finally did beat it, it was the most satisfying thing ever. The game was merciless, so being able to see that end screen was just. wow. I finally did it. It felt worth it to go through the whole game. I never really liked the gameplay, but I spent such a long time wrestling with Zelda2 that it grew on me 😂

Then there is also the fact that almost no one knows about the story. I find it to be very interesting given how it leaves a lot of room for interpretation and interconnections with other games... so I started digging deeper. And that’s how I came to like Zelda2!

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Hi! This looks really cool, but I don't really know much about the older LoZ games. I was born a little too late for them to be relevant to me when I was younger and only actually got into LoZ recently(two-ish years?). So I was wondering how "beginner-friendly" this comic would be? Will I have trouble understanding some things without the original games, or will they be gone over in the comic itself? Sorry this was long dnvklvans

Don’t worry about that, I was born waaaay after the OG games too, but I just love them too much haha. And that’s a good question too!

As far as story goes, prior knowledge isn’t needed to understand the comic. It’s based on the manual story, which I assume you may know? (You might want to read the story in the manual to know the overall plot. It’s only a few pages long). There will be elements from the gameplay, but not knowing them shouldn’t affect your understanding of the story. Everything will be explained. The only thing is that you might miss references to the game itself that might explain some story decisions I’ve made (eg. I’m playing around with the concept of having Link prefer close combat, because in the game it’s almost impossible to kill anything without being VERY close to it. So this part of the gameplay is being implemented into the character of Link himself). The story is quite brief in the manual, and there are only 6 characters mentioned in it. Despite that, it still leaves a lot of room for expansion on certain points (exactly why I’m making this comic!) and certain elements from the gameplay will be added to the storyline, such as events relating to side quests, items, towns, locations, NPCs (there aren’t enough honestly so I will be adding more where I see fit), etc etc. Not knowing these gameplay elements will not affect how you understand the story, but I suppose it might be of added interest to those who did play it and recognize where I pulled that stuff from (so like the above example). So knowing the games will just add a sense of recognition to the readers. Otherwise it’s not too important to know that. (it might be fun to see how it plays out if someone reads the comic and THEN plays Zelda2 🤔 hmmm) Your question actually gave me an idea to add some sort of scrap page at the end of each chapter... With screenshots from the game explaining some things and such. So in short: It won’t really matter if you know what goes on in the gameplay to understand the story (it might just give you “aha” moments, but that’s all). So if you want to fully indulge in it, you might want to play Zelda2 or watch some gameplay, but it’s really up to you! :)

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One thing I have liked to interpret with the cross shield in the NES games is that it represents the cardinal directions! North, south, east, and west. And I especially love how it was brought back and reinterpreted in Hyrule Warriors to update it/move away from its original cross insignia.

Oooh that’s an awesome interpretation! The shield could be designed to look more like a compass. And I do love the Hyrule Warriors updated design too! It still resembles the old design and retains that medieval fantasy look.

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Are you going to make Link be from Calatia like in the comics or just make him be Hyrulean?

Link will be Hyrulean. I’ve been planning to add some political tension between Calatia and Hyrule. I don’t want the story to be ONLY about Link, but also Princess Zelda. She’ll be facing her own battles too in reestablishing the Hyrulean Kingdom after years of ruin. As for Link, I’d like to add a little reference to his origins as a Calatian by having a sort of circulating rumor that he has Calatian blood. (You know that bit of Sothern Hyrule on the Western continent? The one where the first game took place. It looks like a perfectly situated area to be controlled by outside forces, because one side faces the sea, and the other side is Death Mountain, so it would be hard for Hyrule to protect it. As a result Calatia occupies it). For the comic, that place on the map is where Link was born/grew up basically. Since that part of the map seems so desolate, and nearly no one is there in Zelda1, we can say that Calatians abandoned it when Ganon attacked, and all the Hyruleans that are left either lost their lives to Ganon’s monsters or hid underground. I’m planning for a subplot focusing on Princess Zelda and her struggle to regain control of Hyrule. In the midst of all that, Calatia comes back and tries to gain something out of Hyrule’s chaos. And they also claim that Link is originally Calatian, because he comes from southern Hyrule. I’m still thinking how that could be approached... SHOULD Calatia be viewed as another antagonistic force? It’s an idea still in development, so you could all weigh in on that if you have any ideas or suggestions.

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Maybe Seline is a misunderstood enemy? Like, Hyrule’s desolation could have a negative impact on her own Kingdom, and so she’s doing her best to protect the people she rules over, and that could involve making decisions that hurt Hyrule ultimately? I think it would add more depth than, “oooh, neighboring country bad”

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These are all great ideas. A history will have to be developed between Calatia and Hyrule. And who knows, perhaps that part of Hyrule always did belong to Calatia? (maybe given to them by Hyrule during the Golden Era?) It would be interesting to have Hyrule, particularly the citizens and nobility take the antagonistic role here. They’ve been deprived of everything for centuries, they’ll probably want to gain things now. And Calatia merely wants to keep its honor and retort. (Another struggle for Zelda. calming her people down) According to the comics, Calatia is primarily made up of Hylians too, so they are 100% valid in saying Link is Calatian and not Hyrulean based on geography (poor Link will have to get caught up in all this) I say this because Calatians have pointed ears. People from other countries are not Hylians because they have round ears, like in Labrynna and Holodrum. The only characters in them with pointed ears are Nayru and Din. (This makes me think about Calatia really just being an extension of Hyrule from the Golden Era... they are essentially cut off from Hyrule, so when the Decline began it didn’t directly affect them, and they continued as an independent nation of Hylians. It’s been centuries since then so they now have an identity of their own separate from Hyrule). So when they are all fighting over who Link really is a hero to, he’s actually EVERYONE’s hero 😭 they just don’t know it. Also, since it’s really Hyrulean nobility taking offense, maybe it’s the same with Calatia? Zelda and Seline might be corresponding and working together but the nobility isn’t having it. This is all a huge dump of ideas, but it’ll be worked through to create something concrete!

#Calatia

Are you going to make Link be from Calatia like in the comics or just make him be Hyrulean?

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The cover art shield looks like it could almost be a coat of arms or something, so maybe it’s the symbol of some important noble family or something?

Good point! A friend pointed out how the cover art shield does have a cross, but it’s not such a big focus because of the designs around the intersection. That could possibly make it THE magic shield! Since I want to add references to Calatia from the valiant comics, the shield might be used a Calatian coat of arms? I’m still playing around with the idea of Calatia’s presence in the Zelda2 world. It would most likely be a country like the others we’ve seen in the loz world (Labrynna and Holodrum) or it could be at the other side of the mountains.

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