discussions of grooming, misogyny, abuse, and sexual terror (harassment, assault, etc..
gang im sorry but you're probably never gonna convince me angelina groomed franco š and it's not because "women can't be abusers", it's because no one has actually given me a good argument for why angelina would be a groomer beyond speculation.
LIKE. franco was probably exposed to prostitutes as a minor, and THAT i sympathize with. i can't imagine what that did to him psycho sexually, especially with his erectile dysfunction and ongoing parental abuse. however it's important to keep in mind that by the time angelina came into the picture, franco was CANONICALLY an adult and already assaulting and maiming people. like... these aren't behaviors that originated with her. angelina sticks out to franco because she was his first successful sexual encounter (HIM, who probably had great insecurity over the impotence), his father literally almost BEAT HIM TO DEATH, and then he was exiled. forever.
like idk i feel like there's so many other reasons why that part of his life was significant to him!! also there's so many more interesting takes to be had with ANGELINA. imagine being in that position. the secrecy. was she a multi-generational member, or completely new to this? how do you, the wife, act around your husband who's made a trend of killing his paramours? how do you, a woman (i.e, any fem-presenting person tbh), act around a man who's made a trend of raping and disfiguring his?
will reblog a post with proofs later because i do want to cite my sources and yk make sure i didn't misremember anything... but anyway please reblog this i'd so love to discuss it
prostitution exposure is a speculation inspired by the timeframe and lifestyle.
impotency:
from the wiki: "due to his impotency he would frequently murder his sexual partners for psychosexual reasons."
from his dialogue: "succulent little whores. i'll show you flaccid."
from his dialogue: "bambino. The indignity of it. how's a man supposed to... perform."
from his dialogue: "call me impotent? call me little?"
from his dialogue: "what, you think i can't get it up? come out, i'll show you."
parental abuse:
from the wiki: "the deformations of his skull and face are the result of both a birth defect, and frequent physical abuse from his father."
from the wiki: "his aggressive and explosive nature reflect a deep-seated insecurity, stemming from his abusive childhood and his feelings of sexual inadequacy."
from his dialogue: "who is that? my dad send you? think I'm fucking scared of you?"
implies fear of his father due to the abuse/near-death experience.
from the document, "Age Twelve":
from the Murkoff Chronicles, Issue 3:
in response to the previously mentioned murder.
from the Murkoff Chronicles, Issue 3:
in response to the affair.
franco's age vs angelina's age:
from the wiki: "he (salvatore) married angelina - a woman much closer in age to his son..."
from the document, "AKA Il Bambino":
from the document, "Age Twelve":
also significant here.
from the document, "Get Barbi":
year of collection will help with calculations.
from the Murkoff Chronicles, Issue 3:
the photo depicts a ten year-old franco. the photo was taken fifteen years ago. by previous accounts, that makes him 25-27 years old in 1959. depending on which you go with, he turned 18 in 1950/52 and 21 in 1953/55.
from the Murkoff Chronicles, Issue 3:
this "cuban situation" (presumably when fidel castro came into power) began in january, 1959. angela was "only a couple years older than franco" at the time of their affair.
from the document, "Counter Revolutionary":
confirming franco's involvement in the cuban community/helping "mutual friends" suggests his exile occurred sometime during 1959 (the CIA wasn't involved with cuban affairs during the 1953 revolution, but was when fidel castro assumed control). as there is no reason to assume the affair was kept secret for years (and it's highly unlikely it would have remained secret all those years, anyway), i estimate it occurring in 1957 at the earliest. this would make franco 23-25 years old when he slept with angelina.
franco's relationship with women:
from the wiki: "franco engaged in a sexual relationship with his stepmother angelina barbi, as her degradation brought him sexual pleasure."
from the wiki: "franco is also extremely sexually depraved in nature and takes pleasure in murdering out of arousal, killing one of the female Giants and engaging in necrophilia with her corpse."
from the wiki: "his aggressive and explosive nature reflect a deep-seated insecurity, stemming from his abusive childhood and his feelings of sexual inadequacy."
from the wiki: "barbi collects nipples".
from his dialogue: "she didn't have to laugh at me. she didn't have to do that."
unclear who "she" is.
from the document, "AKA Il Bambino": also significant here.
from the document, "Age Twelve": also significant here.
from the document, "The Gator Hook":
from the document, "Honey Island":
from the document, "Angelina":
from the Murkoff Chronicles, Issue 3:
from the Murkoff Chronicles, Issue 3:
from the Murkoff Chronicles, Issue 3:
the events following the affair:
from the wiki: "franco's father found out about the affair and severely beat himĀ before exiling him, his life spared due to their blood relation."
salvatore and killing his wives:
from his dialogue: "i never knew my real mother."
from his dialogue: "my father killed my mother, you know that? doctors? you listening? i had a new mom every year..."
hyperbole, but still significant.
why i believe he could consent/pursue angelina:
from the wiki: "despite his disability and sustaining injuries through both his field of work and domestic abuse, he remains in otherwise excellent health and physical condition."
from the wiki: "barbi's midface hypoplasia, enlarged cranium, and laboured breathing are features reminiscent of those seen in people born withĀ pfeiffer syndrome type I."
from the cleveland clinic: "children diagnosed with classic pfeiffer syndrome usually have an average life expectancy and typical intelligence with treatment."
from the boston children's hospital: "most of these children have normal intelligence and a normal life span."
my point in sharing this is that pfeiffer syndrome type I, which franco is most likely to have, is not an intellectual disability.
from the wiki: "franco does appear to possess a level of intelligence and craftsmanship, being able to produce his own ammunition within the trial environments as well as having instincts not dissimilar to a hunter."
The cops very clearly planted evidence on him because they had to make an arrest because all eyes were on them and whoever actually did the deed was making them look stupid.
Why would the real killer hero have kept the weapon on his person and traveled two states over while carrying it and a manifesto in his bag, conveniently turning the crime into a federal matter? The same guy whose bag they found in a park, filled with monopoly money? Why did the police turn off their bodycams, take Luigi's stuff, drive a block away, turn their bodycams back on, go back into the restaurant, and then arrest him?
From the moment of his arrest, even left-of-center media has been presuming his guilt without examining anything (e.g. calling him "the killer" instead of "alleged" or "accused") and then when I say he didn't do it, the nearest person chimes in with some quip that tells me they think he did do it but should go free anyway. Don't get me wrong, I would have the same attitude if he had done it. But he didn't. It makes me feel like the only sane person in the world, even among my staunchly leftist friends.
getting fixated on something is funny because the first like week i have an insatiable need to tell everyone i know about it and spread the good word but by weeks 2 and 3 it becomes so intense and personal that even hearing it mentioned in public makes me sweat as if a dark secret was alluded to
using violence to liberate people from sweatshops, unsafe mines, and grinding poverty isn't the same as using violence to impose those things on people. the idea that violence is morally repugnant regardless of context is a belief that every oppressor throughout history would love for the oppressed to hold
also here is a whole website that not only has a shit ton of adventures and such but lets you search for any item or npc or whatever and see their stats and info at your fingertips
i feel like people aren't getting how dire ai is. we are running out of drinkable water. our brains aren't engaging as much with what we see and hear. people near data centers don't get clean water and experience electricity blackouts. it's being used to make pornography of underaged people and women. it often just lies. it affirms everything. it lies. it has made people kill themselves. it lies for gods sake. and people act as if im dramatic for being staunchly against it. 'now i KNOOW you hate ai and whatever, but look at this cute video' this isn't me being a new age puritan about internet videos, this is about the fucking earth and our future living on this planet. people are suffering now, people will suffer more, and my friends and parents will roll their eyes and think im annoying for despising ai so explicitly. we need to wake up because we cannot live like this
has anyone made a post yet about the likelihood of cazador szarr having never been a spawn, or do i have to do it because unless im forgetting something critical, from everything i remember, it only points to him having been a weaker/less experienced vampire than Vellioth, not a spawn. in the memories he was never compelled, and all of the examples of ways Vellioth taught his ālessonsā were all tailored to a true vampire.
draining his friend of blood in front of him, impaling him on a spike for 11 years, and āmentoring himā on the āweaknessā of relying on others as a vampire
even the fact that cazador was capable of performing the rite of perfect slaughter on vellioth proves that he mustnt have been a spawn, he was capable of doing it presumably against vellioths wishes (ignoring vellioths laughter i suppose)
along with the fact that it seems all Szarrs we know of have been true vampires. Donella, Cazador, even the ones from the letters and presumably cut content, Grandam Fistula (lol), Blovart and Dralia, even Amanita who was only around 13 (iirc).
if anyone has anything to add, id love to hear it, but ive thought about this a lot. i dont think cazador szarr has ever been a spawn and i think the assumptions of it are merely because of the similarities in his story (being tortured) and what he did to astarion (torturing him and the other spawn)
he was impaled for rebelling, not compelled to do so, for something he couldnt have done if he had been a spawn. notably this works better with the other things that happened here, none of which mention cazador szarr being compelled to do anything he didnt want to do. if he was a spawn, why wouldnt vellioth simply compel him to drink his friends blood? why wouldnt he compel him to torture himself as cazador did to his spawn?
this is evidence of amanita being a vampire, and not a spawn.
has anyone made a post yet about the likelihood of cazador szarr having never been a spawn, or do i have to do it because unless im forgetting something critical, from everything i remember, it only points to him having been a weaker/less experienced vampire than Vellioth, not a spawn. in the memories he was never compelled, and all of the examples of ways Vellioth taught his ālessonsā were all tailored to a true vampire.
draining his friend of blood in front of him, impaling him on a spike for 11 years, and āmentoring himā on the āweaknessā of relying on others as a vampire
even the fact that cazador was capable of performing the rite of perfect slaughter on vellioth proves that he mustnt have been a spawn, he was capable of doing it presumably against vellioths wishes (ignoring vellioths laughter i suppose)
along with the fact that it seems all Szarrs we know of have been true vampires. Donella, Cazador, even the ones from the letters and presumably cut content, Grandam Fistula (lol), Blovart and Dralia, even Amanita who was only around 13 (iirc).
if anyone has anything to add, id love to hear it, but ive thought about this a lot. i dont think cazador szarr has ever been a spawn and i think the assumptions of it are merely because of the similarities in his story (being tortured) and what he did to astarion (torturing him and the other spawn)
a friend brought up a good point that vellioth also never gave him permission to bite him, he was killed in the right of perfect slaughter, so it was not an Astarion-like situation. and why would Vellioth grant him vampirism if Vellioth was such an isolationist for vampires. if he believed vampires should never allow someone to be your equal.
has anyone made a post yet about the likelihood of cazador szarr having never been a spawn, or do i have to do it because unless im forgetting something critical, from everything i remember, it only points to him having been a weaker/less experienced vampire than Vellioth, not a spawn. in the memories he was never compelled, and all of the examples of ways Vellioth taught his ālessonsā were all tailored to a true vampire.
draining his friend of blood in front of him, impaling him on a spike for 11 years, and āmentoring himā on the āweaknessā of relying on others as a vampire
even the fact that cazador was capable of performing the rite of perfect slaughter on vellioth proves that he mustnt have been a spawn, he was capable of doing it presumably against vellioths wishes (ignoring vellioths laughter i suppose)
along with the fact that it seems all Szarrs we know of have been true vampires. Donella, Cazador, even the ones from the letters and presumably cut content, Grandam Fistula (lol), Blovart and Dralia, even Amanita who was only around 13 (iirc).
if anyone has anything to add, id love to hear it, but ive thought about this a lot. i dont think cazador szarr has ever been a spawn and i think the assumptions of it are merely because of the similarities in his story (being tortured) and what he did to astarion (torturing him and the other spawn)
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