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Miles' Vision Schedule!!

#this being the worst schedule known to man #immediate hc that visions is some kind of dual enrollment/ib school that allows students to pick their own classes #and miles gave himself these stupidly long gaps in between classes so that he’d have time to spider-man throughout the day #w/o it interfering too much with his studies. also ‘art class’ is the time he sets aside to graffiti

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appreciation for Miles' laughing/teasing expression when he asks Miguel "Dude, are you sure you're even Spider-Man?"

#moments before disaster #he’s so incapable of being serious when it comes to any kind of authority figure

It’s still kinda wild that this is most likely miles first day as THEE prowler

#we’ve stepped into his kind of collider scene where he makes his grand entrance and announces himself #I was thinking about the early concepts for his design and how the red+black+khaki resembles miles suit+clothes in the leap of faith #so it’s sort of like an evolution??? and it also points to miles g also being a hero but moving in a different direction #idk where I’m going w this but it seemed interesting TO ME!

Anyway I would love it if miles g actually did do some really messed up shit in btsv. Like taking enjoyment in hurting people or not particularly caring about the lives of innocents if they get in the way of him capturing bad guys.

#atsv #miles morales #miles g morales #what I’m really saying is let him kill people on screen. or at least seriously injure them #make him earn that antihero title yknow?#like Spider-Man very obviously has a no kill rule but Aaron had no qualms about killing a teenager #and gauntlets that can cut through steel doesn’t feel like the weapon of choice for a person who doesn’t fight to kill #I feel like there kinda has to BE a difference both miles philosophies so they actually clash #instead of it being one big misunderstanding that they resolve in the first 10 minutes

Reading the new edge of the spiderverse and Jessica Drew’s husband is intentionally hidden and he says hey……………………..

#JESSAARON NATION WE ARE SOOOO FUCKING BACKKKKKKKKKK #idc idc there has to be a reason why he’s not shown like if he was just some random guy it wouldn’t make sense

If I were to write a master post about the repeated usage of the term “good guy” in reference to characters who do morally questionable things and how it ties into the overall themes in spider verse and its goal as a deconstruction of the superhero movie……………………………………….

#spiderverse #it would be an actual essay typed with screenshots to prove the point #I sort of want to save it for btsv bcs it think it would be easier to analyze a the franchise as a whole #instead of having to infer and theorize even though I’m confident that Ik where they are going to take this

Idk what if Margo is very escapist and basically figured out dimensional travel to get out of her shitty home life and the overall dystopian reality she probably lives in.

From what little we do know about her world it’s heavily implied that she lives in a Ready Player Oneish world where everyone is chronically online. I don’t think id be far fetched to assume that it is likely a corporatocracy controlled by massive tech and media conglomerates whose sole purpose is to keep people online for as long as possible. Everything is artificial and nothing is human. Think everything wrong with the internet times 1000.

Isolation and a lack of human connection, coupled with her parents loveless marriage, fuels her obsession with the past. She loves the 21st century the same way gen-zers love the early 2000s. The fashion and technology reminds us of a hazy, bygone era where everyone was a little bit more human. Technological limitations allowed for genuine connection in a way that is increasingly harder to find in our world and nigh non existent in Margo’s.

Somehow she finds out about the multiverse. Collider shenanigans blase blah. She sees all of these different universes and the past, which she desperately longs for. A world where everything is simple and people go to real parks, and her parents love each other. Its not some maladaptive daydream that she acts out in her virtual house. It’s real. She just has to figure out how to get there.

She does, eventually. And it’s probably the greatest thing she’s ever done. She goes on an absolute multi-dimensional bender and Consumes Everything. From the 70s to the Renaissance to the 22nd century. Shes so enthralled with these worlds and their quaint existence. She doesn’t even realize that she’s been totally neglecting her spider duties until she’s too late to stop a virtual heist.

No matter. She updates her avatar with the ability to split into multiples, so she can leave traces of her code in different universes that send a live feed to her monitor. This way she is not limited to one world. She sees everything all at once and imagines this might be how god feels.

All of her dimension hopping gets the attention of a certain 6’9 Mexican Spider-Man from 2099. He asks her how she’s able to do it, and shows her his watch. He explains that it’s a prototype and wants to compare notes so that they can maybe come up with a more stabilized version of it. It’s the first time an adult has ever taken interest in anything she does.

Anyway she is one of the first recruits of the spider society and her knowledge is invaluable to its development.

#atsv #spiderverse #Margo kess #I’m such a yapster brother what r u talking about #that shit is as much her brainchild as it is Miguel’s but he’s such a butthead he runs around taking credit for it like #like the go home machine doesn’t literally run on HER SOFTWARE

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btw if they force miles to forgive miguel im gonna be so mad

#it just occurred to me that they might use miles g as a ‘cautionary tale’ for 1610 #like what he could turn out to be if he stews in his anger/grief and lets it control him which is🤢#too many times ppl are taught that anger is a bad emotion and you have to forgive ppl bcs it’s the Right Thing To Do #but like no. I want him to be upset. he should be upset. he said some things to him that I don’t think can or should be rectified by a #“im sorry can we be besties now please’. I think best case scenario miles teams up w him to beat the spot and they are like. veery cordial #but it’s obvious that miles just barely tolerates him #which is so in character for him bcs he literally threw peters words back in his face that boy doesn’t forgive and forget shit

Do you think that circadian rhythms are affected by dimensional travel

#spiderverse #atsv #I’d be inclined to say no since there are no concepts of time zones #but obviously different universes run on different day/night cycles #but I’d be sorta funny yknow #get back to spider hq and ur super eepy bcs u were just fighting for your life at 4 am and now it’s 8:30 #cleaning out my drafts I’m so fucking funny

I hope you guys caught that Miles and Mayday being the only ones with day passes is a visual metaphor for how everyone in miles’ life babies him

#spiderverse #atsv #miles morales #I had a whole rant in my drafts about his but like yeah #it’s quite obvious that nobody sees him as a capable anything #his parents are very helicoptery #and from the perspective of the spider society he hasn’t had to struggle much in his life #so of course he can’t be trusted with the information of cannon events bcs he’s too immature to handle it

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CAN I JUST SAY: Miles didn't say his father was still alive. I've scoured over everything he says on E-42 up to that point so many times and at! no! point! does Miles say that his father is still alive!

Now, maybe this is a change with the theatrical to the digital version--I remember vaguely that someone said something changed in his desperate tied-to-a-punching-bag speech to aaron, but I haven't been able to find that clip in any of the theatrical versions still up on youtube. so idk :( but either way, in the digital version, Miles doesn't say his father is still alive.

So Miles G. either used context clues (Miles 1610's shock at the mural, etc.) or... idk. Just that I guess. But it kind of makes the line "you said he's still alive" seem... even more... idk, vulnerable? illuminating? It betrays what Miles G is focusing on and what lens he's viewing the situation through way more than I think he means it to.

#in the official script Miles actually says that he needs to get back home or his dad will die #so that’s what 42s ‘your dads still alive’ is in response to #but they cut that out of the theatrical release so now his line kinda makes no sense #but I suspect that they kept it in becase jeffs death is such a central point to his character

“Ppl are saying that the guy who slammed a 15 yo black boy into a hyper speed train and called him a mistake hates children. Here’s why you are wrong!!!!!” shut up and learn how to take a joke man

#what’s it with ppl in fandoms nowadays assuming that nobody understands the movie like they did #I don’t think it’s necessary to preface every ‘dudes be 37 and they ops be 17’ with a disclaimer stating that you actually do understand #that Miguel’s motivations are much more complex than hating kids and that this joke comic does not accurately reflect the conflict #in the story. bcs that is lame as hell

Shameik Moore is such a cornball man

#it’s just embarrassing #was he even there😭😭bros raging from his couch like please #Jharrel Jerome save us……..save us Jharrel Jerome

I actually think hobie hates the Sex Pistols. Like in every other universe they are a manufactured boyband and that used outrage marketing to sell Vivienne Westwood but I like to imagine that in his world they are all of that AND probably a psyop created by the government to defang the youth movement

#atsv #hobie brown #he hears Sid vicious talk about how he loves wearing swastikas and is like ‘yeah no this guy is a fed’

Thinking about the nature of black fatherhood in spiderverse

#Jeff and miles relationship is implied to be a bit more turbulent than miles and rio #like im thinking about that deleted scene when pete tells him to think of saving 1 person #and he lists Rio and Aaron before his dad #but I think Jeff’s absence on e42 would actually make him appreciate him more #not only bcs he’s dead but like he gets to see the flaws in Aaron and maybe realize that he wasn’t the best guy in the world #and his dad had a good reason for being weary of him hanging around Aaron

vhstown

i think one way miles g would differ from his uncle is that he doesn't take orders from anyone 😭 like aarons always working for someone right but i feel like miles just does whatever HE thinks is best (even if it's the stupidest thing you can do in a situation but he figures it out)

#miles morales has an iron willed moral compass in every dimension!#and that’s what makes him a hero

the re release seems like the perfect time to show the spider within

#then again i probably wouldn't spend 30 dollars just to see a 5 minute short but everyone is different

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