A few random thoughts out loud (where I'm discussing everything only in the context of the show).
There is something truly inexplicable about the way Jace and Luke (and Joffrey) are hated in the fandom because they are bastards. Literally for something they can't control or change about themselves. Like, what did they think the boys were supposed to do?!? Go back in time and demand their mother's egg reject Harwin's sperm and accept Laenor?!? Give up their rights and titles to people who pursue their own agendas, while they were officially recognized as his sons by Laenor himself?!? And recognized by the King himself. And I'm not even mentioning their own mother, who is literally a princess and future queen.
To me, it's as if I inherited an apartment bequeathed to me by my adoptive father, and by the law of the court (the king) it was recognized as mine, but then some rotten relatives (the green faction) came along and wanted the apartment for themselves, claiming I have no rights because I'm adopted, not a real daughter, and tried to take it away through slander, deception, and falsified documents.
I understand the comparison isn't entirely appropriate, since the show deals with the issue of inheriting titles and power, blah blah blah. But the gist is the same.
I understand the sympathy for TG and its characters (I have my own favorites there), but why pretend they had any right to the throne?! Or pretend that TG didn't do everything possible to deceive themselves into power and make Aegon king.
It's one thing to criticize Rhaenyra for having sons with Harwin. But it's quite another to touch on the children. This just makes you look stupid and vile. Sorry not sorry.
I think it was truly reckless and dangerous for her to give birth to them. And it would have been fine if she'd given birth to one son, but she gave birth to three! But I understand she still needed heirs. And Laenor agreed, given his situation, and it was an acceptable compromise for both of them. I also believe she loved and trusted Harwin. And I think she believed she would somehow escape the consequences because she was the future queen and her father, the King, would protect her and her sons one way or another. And so it was. And I don't blame her for that. She loved her sons and did everything she could for them. And I think if it weren't for the green faction, neither the lords nor the commoners would have cared whose children these were. And if anyone cared, then yes, they wouldn't risk opening their mouths because of Rhaenyra's status and the consequences they would face. But the green faction, of course, doesn't care when the crown itself and the opportunity to put their heir and their line at the helm are at stake. They DON'T CARE ABOUT JUSTICE.
They don't care that the crown and titles will go to bastards in the future from an ethical standpoint. Only from a standpoint of their own gain. They are literally the biggest hypocrites. There's no need to run and point fingers at Rhaenyra, and especially not at her children, when they had their own goals and plans to eliminate her from the very beginning, even before she had children. Otto is a vile mite who started all this shit. I felt sorry for young Alicent, but she turned out just like her father, so she can go fuck herself too. And no attempts to justify her in S3 will change my mind. Criston? Fuck you. I don't understand any sympathy for this character at all. He's literally a jerk. Reminding this fandom of Aegon and Aemond's screw-ups is pointless. Somehow, the rape of a girl, his vile behavior, and Aegon's generally unlikable personality are ignored, and all the emphasis is placed on his cuteness with the dragon. Does that somehow justify everything else? No. Like, I like him too, mostly the fanon version, of course, because Aegon is absolutely canon, which is not for me. But this fandom is astounding in its fervent hatred of Luke and Jace, literally for their origins. Or for the situation with Luke and Aemond, in which Luke was trying to protect his brother, and overall, it was an accident, not some deliberate move by a six-year-old to take away his uncle's eye Lmao
This fandom NEVER BLAMES AEGON. HE WILL NEVER BE PERSECUTED LIKE THIS, AND IF ANYONE TRYS TO TELL THE TRUTH, THEY'LL END UP BEING CALLED STUPID AND BORING, BECAUSE AEGON IS A COMPLEX CHARACTER. Bitch, building the Large Hadron Collider is hard. Aegon is utterly simple.
Aemond, though more of a real victim, still did stupid and terrible things. But he's also UNTOUCHABLE in this fandom. He also can't be blamed for anything or held accountable for his actions.
But it's always Lucerys and Jace, who can be bullied forever lol
And anyway, if I were Rhaenyra, I'd do the same thing lol
Although she's still better than me. If I'd lost three children to the green faction, I would have reduced the culprits to charred remains long ago.