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Spider-Man - No Way Home
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talk to me about catws!!! (ďžâăŽâ)ďž*:シďžâ§
Iâm gonna talk about how the character of the Winter Soldier relies heavily on sound throughout the film because itâs one of the first things I picked up on during my numerous re-viewings and I think itâs one of the strengths of the film in terms of film technique.
For starters, the Winter Soldier is a really interesting character because heâs one of the titular characters and heâs key to the plot, but he has hardly any lines of dialogue and heâs only in it for maybe a third of the film. But the reason the Winter Soldier has such a presence in the film is because of the strength of Sebastian Stanâs ability to act using just his face and body and also the techniques that the film uses to establish details about his character that arenât revealed through plot or dialogue. WS has only six real scenes in the film, which are:
First encounter with Nick Fury on the streets of D.C.
Shooting Nick Fury at Steveâs apartment
Speaking with Alexander Pierce
The Causeway
The Bank Vault (âBut I knew himâ)
Final Battle
So how do you establish the presence of a character who has six scenes during the film? The answer is to use every film technique at your disposal, and this film especially relies on sound. The Winter Soldier has to be one of the creepiest themes Iâve ever seen for a character because it utilizes a lot of metallic noises, robotic clanging, and inhuman screaming, which matches perfectly the visceral diegetic sounds of WS during the film, like the sound of the metal arm. Itâs a far cry from what a normal character theme would be, because The Winter Soldier theme is for a presence, not for a person, which works so well given his legendary status as an assassin (âmost of the intelligence community doesnât believe he existsâ).
The film uses sound in a major way to fill in the details about his character that canât be shown on-screen, as well as to establish him as an inhuman figure that has the ability to morph what goes on around him, adding to his threatening presence. Firstly, when heâs first introduced to the audience and to Nick Fury on the streets of D.C., the music, which had been an exciting combat theme mirroring the action, suddenly goes very quiet and what you hear is what I can only describe as a hollow sound, a few notes of the WS theme. Itâs a sound very evocative of a desolate wasteland. WS is unique because you never see him âenterâ a scene; heâs always there, and as soon as he appears, the sound in the film changes to mirror his presence. This happens when he appears and ambushes Furyâs car and the sound grows very quiet and haunting, and also during the scene where he appears in Alexander Pierceâs kitchen, but it also happens in a much larger way when he gets the shot at Steveâs apartment.
When Steve and Fury are talking, the song Itâs Been a Long, Long Time is playing as diegetic music in the background to mask their conversation. Itâs symbolic, because the lyrics mirror Steve and Buckyâs relationship, but it also serves a practical function within the storytelling. However, as soon as WS takes the shot and Fury goes down, the music very obviously warps in a really horrifying way that is more psychological. As Steve and Sharon and Fury are talking, their voices still sound normal, but the music playing, which logically should sound exactly the same, suddenly takes on a chilling, haunting quality. All because WS has appeared and distorted the scene. Essentially, the Winter Soldier is a character that is able to distort the reality of every scene in which he appears, because heâs a character that stands outside of reasoning and the fabric of reality itself. (Which makes a lot of sense given that heâs a character who was thought dead, but has in fact been alive for seventy years and has become the worldâs deadliest assassin). Even when he doesnât appear, such as when Steve and Natasha and Maria are watching Fury in the ER, as soon as Steve mentions âheâs fast; strong. Had a metal arm,â the WS music creeps back in because the Winter Soldier doesnât need to be on the screen in order to âbeâ there.Â
The causeway sequence is probably my favourite in the entire film, because it expands on what weâve already learnt about WS through sound. The theme appears instantly as soon as he lands on top of Samâs car, and then goes into a very metallic, action heavy piece of music. Whatâs really interesting, however, is what happens when Natasha draws WS away from Steve and Sam into the streets. As WS is walking down the street (and another thing to note about WS; heâs threatening because he never runs, only walks), the sounds of screaming and sirens are deliberately pushed far down on the sound hierarchy because whatâs actually happening is that the audience is being given a rare glimpse into his point-of-view, which is incredible given that heâs a âvillainâ and not one of the protagonists. It offers the audience a view of how the Winter Soldierâs mind works. Heâs focused solely on the mission, which in that moment is to listen for Black Widow, meaning all other superfluous background noise is deliberately muted because it is irrelevant to him. Then, we hear what he hears: the sound of Natasha speaking, which of course turns out to be a recording and not actually her. Later, after Natasha gets shot, the camera does a pov shift to Natasha and the music pretty much cuts out, which helps to show the audience just how terrified of WS she is (the shaky, handheld pov camera shot), which is something incredibly rare for this character because the only other person weâve ever seen Black Widow scared of is the Hulk. Then WS jumps back into the shot on top of the car, rifle pointed straight at Natasha in what I personally consider to be the single best shot of the whole film, and the WS theme surges back in in a really terrifying way, because both Natasha and the audience know in that instant that if Steve hadnât appeared at that very moment, Black Widow would be dead.
All of this is great stuff, but the cincher for me in why this film is superior to every other superhero movie in terms of technique is that in addition to establishing the Winter Soldierâs inhumanity through sound, sound also plays a huge role in establishing his humanity, which happens almost at the very instant Steve mentions the name âBucky.â At the bank vault, when WS is asking who the man on the bridge was, the sound of the robotic, metallic WS theme is deliberately pushed back in favour of an emotional note that is clearly evocative of Steve.Â
All of this culminates in the scene of the final battle, which takes the established haunting Winter Soldier theme and plays that out while Steve and WS are fighting, until the instant Steve tells him âyou know me.â As soon as Steve engages him in conversation, the Winter Soldier theme disappears and instead you get a piece of deeply moving music playing as Steve tells him that heâs not going to fight him, that heâs his friend, and that âIâm with you till the end of the line.â Then it goes into that emotional piano piece as Steve falls into the Potomac and Bucky dives in after him. Essentially, whatâs happening here is that for two hours this character has been crafted as a robotic, inhuman assassin who distorts the fabric of reality and morphs every scene heâs in simply through his presence, but suddenly heâs now being treated like a character; an actual person. All because Steve Rogers is treating him like a person. Steve Rogers is the one thing that keeps the Winter Soldier human, and the film manages to tell us that simply through sound.
And this is why CA:TWS stands above every other superhero movie in terms of technique, in my opinion.
I think fandom should avoid zeroing on Bucky when talking about how wrong eg is. Steve is his own person and what happened in eg can be easily shown as completely wrong without a single mention of Bucky. The way his life evolved was completely ruined not because what eg made him do ignores Buckys wellbeing, its because it ignores his mental health and wellbeing.
Bucky is his soulmate there is no debate but Steve himself is a complete person with really good moral values.
âŚ..I think itâs completely acceptable to do both. steve rogersâ ending was a completely assassination of his character bc it went against his moral code, and was an anti thesis to the very core of his personâŚ..but you also canât completely leave the major people his decision effected (bucky & sam) out of the discussion
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One of the things that made Captain America: The Winter Soldier so good was that it really went out of its way to establish characterâs competence before they fought the big climax of the story, so you really feel the stakes.Â
Fury escaped a whole set of police cars and weaponized teams and being shot at from all sides, but then comes the Winter Soldier and bam just like that heâs down. Steve took out a set of pirates and Batroc at the start of the movie, then an entire elevator full of STRIKE agents, brought down a plane with his bare hands, but then bam the Winter Soldier slams into him like nothing else before.Â
And with Winter Soldier we see him take out Fury twice, go toe to toe with Steve, hurl Natasha around, yank a guy from a car, jump from a bridge, heâs restrained in a room filled with people with huge guns and he slams a guy halfway across the room, and then Pierce goes ahead and slaps him, because he can.
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When someone is really freaking mad at me for inducing an emotional response from them
when readers give me a background of how/when they read my writing
when readers give me a background of why they shouldnât have been reading my writing (usually while at work)
when readers quote my work back to me in comments
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The man on the bridge⌠who was he?
âLook at me, son.â
Walter and Jesse from Breaking Bad.
This scene, emotionally-wise, always struck a chord with me, so it felt natural to come back to it and draw it. The relationship between Walter and Jesse was toxic to begin with and would only get more so, but in this scene, their bond really shines through. Somewhere along the way, Walter did care about Jesse.
(Also, great acting from Aaron Paul and Bryan Cranston here.)
When there's a discussion on whether Steve's ending was good or not, there's one thing that actually bothers me, and it's when people say that it was always meant to happen because it was already planned and the entirety of Steve's arc throughout the movies was purposely made to have that ending regardless. Like, that's just not true.
The creators confirmed a few times that the script for Endgame had a lot of changes and that they had different versions for the movie. I'm pretty sure that the Russos said at one point that in one of these versions Steve died during the battle and was decapitated. Steve dying was an option, and probably one that was going to follow through because it would just be easier and it wouldn't leave the public confused after previously stablishing a good and understandable enough explanation for time travel. It would also save Marvel from now having to explain what happened after Steve came back, the comment in FATWS about people believing that he's on the moon, and having to keep everything vague enough for the possibility of Evans agreeing to come back.
But the evidence of this ending definitely not being planned years before it's the movie itself. If Steve was really meant to end up with Peggy, they wouldn't need to bring her up so many times during the movie, it shouldn't be necessary to explain again and again how much she means to him, that's something that the audience should already know. When there's Civil War discourse people argue about who's right, the political perspective of Tony and Steve, whether Steve should've told Tony about his parents, or if he shouldn't have dragged the other avengers to battle, whatever, but I've never seen people question why he's so intent on defending his views and protecting Bucky from the government, because in CAFTA and CATWS the audience got to see and understand that Steve acts based on what he thinks is right and that Bucky is important to him. It's stablished, and so in Civil War people don't need flashbacks of the 40's or constant reminders to understand Steve's actions.
If Steve talked about his friends that were gone with the snap in the group therapy session, if the compass was replaced for a wrinkled photo of him with Sam and Nat or if he paid attention to SHIELD'S basement when he went to get the capsules and saw traces of Zola's work, and even then, ended up going back to the past, many more people than it did when the movie came out would get really upset about his ending. I mean, one of the main reasons why some people didn't believe the spoilers when they were leaked on Reddit was Steve's ending making no sense. Of course they had to try to make it seem like not getting to be with Peggy was Steve's biggest regret, because what the audience knew about them together was that that she was kind of the first woman that paid attention to him, she kissed him once, then told him that he had to live his life because she already had, and then enter his new love interest. If his ending was meant to be like that and was really planned in advance, we wouldn't need constant reminders of her character and their relationship, and in the previous movies it would've been clear that Steve hadn't moved on and that him being in the 21st century was still his biggest problem.
At the end of the day is media, you can like it or not, but there's no need to try to justify the way that a multimillionaire company fucks up characters' storylines and characterisation.
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you know what i think it's the sickest part? if they wanted us to belive that peggy was the most important thing in Steve's life, enough for him to comeback to the fucking segregation era, that they were always "mean to be" why would they made him kiss her niece???
it's clear that marvel just wanted the most heteronormative ending possible for the character, even if that means ruining his entire arch, beliefs, and ignore the best mcu trilogy aka the Capitan America one.
CAPTAIN AMERICA: THE FIRST AVENGER || Dir. Joe Johnston
#we talk a lot about Buckyâs angry determination in this scene#but Steveâs face#thereâs urgency but as the camera gets closer thatâs pure fear#and if I recall correctly his face right before the jump was fearful too#Steve isnât fearless although heâs very good at hiding it before Bucky#but this is also the first time heâs really been challenged in his new body#there was no way that little Steve would have gotten as far as he did#but that pool of fire was the limit that Steve thought he couldnât overcome#and itâs the knowledge that Bucky is determined to die with him that pushes him into taking the leap of faith#and maybe it is the first time in his whole life that he has to put that faith in his body#that it can do something superhuman#that it needs to do something more than human#to reach the other side#and he did it because Bucky is waiting#bucky barnes#steve rogers#stucky @luna-rainbow WHY DID YOU DO THIS
Okay okay Iâve got some food into my so I can now write normal.
I think the thing that struck me about this scene is that Steve has always been so stoic. He acts so calm and convinced in front of his team. He charges into life-threatening situations and argues with big names and tussle with gods without a hint of trepidation. So when I saw this scene and the wide-eyed fear as he screams âget out of here!â I realised Steve definitely had fears and at this stage he feared death.
But more than that, he feared what it means for Bucky. Time was running out for him, but his fear was that it was running out for Bucky, and the fear and desperation appears when he yells for Bucky to âget out of here!â
And we know Bucky fears death too. He was fearful as he climbed precariously across the plank. But Buckyâs bigger fear is going on without Steve. So there is no fear when he screams back ânot without you!â Dying with Steve isnât as fearful as what it would mean to leave Steve behind.
So yeah, that kills me a little, knowing that Steveâs biggest fear in this moment is Bucky dying with him, and Buckyâs biggest fear in this moment is Steve dying without him. And of course, their belief in each other overcoming their respective fears.
inspired by Euripides, from âOrestesâ
I get upset when I think about how one of bucky's defining traits that has haunted him thru all the films is his insecurity. like when he realized his 5'4" asthmatic best friend he'd spent most his life protecting no longer needed protecting. like how he hid away from his best friend for years in europe bc he considered himself damaged goods, and wasn't sure if he'd have a place in steve's shiny new life. like when he told steve "I don't know if i'm worth all this". like when bucky tried to underestimate his value and steve replied, "save it, buck. i've told you time and time again, i'm with you til the end of the line". like when despite maybe finally believing in his worth and the security of his relationship with steve, steve had left him for his happy ending. a happy ending that didn't include him.
âbucky was happy for steve or else he would have asked him to stayâ I personally donât think bucky could handle the rejection of laying his heart on the line and having steve say no, and loved him enough to let him go. but thatâs just meÂ
Honestly though Bucky has a habit of hiding his feelings from Steve. Smiling when Steve is able to see him and not smiling when Steve isnât looking. He even had that reluctant smile for Steve when Steve was kissing Sharon, and when Steve left for good.Â
I always thought this was him being unhappy that Steve got the serum because now.. He's at war. Something that Bucky was always realistic about.
Bucky looking between Steve and Peggy when neither are looking at him
The most convincing grimace of approval I've ever seen for Steve and Sharon's kiss đ
Bucky smiling for Steve and trying to hold himself together after Steve leaves
Putting Steve's feelings before his own is something he's just always done đ
okay but the way bucky barnes was helpless on the ground after his arm got blown off, he was barely able to move - but when steve was in danger bucky grabbed tonyâs leg. the last move he could possibly be capable of was this weak, desperate grab at tonyâs armed suit, just to delay tony, do anything to give steve a chance. bucky had no defense, no plan, no way of stopping a counter attack that was sure to (and did) happen. but he did it anyway, because everything else be damned, he has to protect his friend who has gone through all of this to protect him, even and most especially when he feels like he wasnât worth protecting.
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I just wanna talk for a minute about this shot. This right here is a triumph of writing, directing, editing, acting, and everything in between. All of it comes together, but the performance is the glue of it. Sebastian Stan sells this look so well, and it tells you everything without a single word uttered. Lesser filmmakers would have stopped the scene dead here to give us a series of flashbacks to spell out whatâs going on in the mind of James Buchanan Barnes as his memories come back in a flood of pain and grief and loss. Instead, they just let the performance speak for itself, because the actor fucking crushes it here. I am a huge, HUGE fan of scenes where the filmmakers donât spell it out in some flashback montage or exposition, and just rely on the film storytelling adage, âshow, donât tellâ by letting an actor act. Itâs such a perfect moment, the climax of the Steve and Bucky arc for this film, in a movie full of great choices, resulting in a direct assault on the feels. Fuck, I love this scene. fuck-me-barnes
like, I saw the tears in his eyes the first time in the theatre and I just lost it. 15 months later: still not over it.
96 months later and iâm still not over it tbh