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[agentswibble]

Lol this is the JK Rowling incident all over again

If Craig said Cedric was a power ranger and is a brother of Captain America from DC universe who Is also Batman btw who got transported to Enchancia... Y'all will still think that's canon to the show lol

Craig may have made the concept - but the show is made by a couple or writers. There is even an another producer named Jamie Mitchell. Now unless Craig made the whole show on his own, his words holds no weight in what's canon or not. The show doesn't even follow his pitch bible religiously.

There are some few changes they've made that's against Craig's vision - meaning this is a whole different universe than what he has in store

And have we forgotten that he literally had spewed out things about stf that doesn't make sense? Like Cedric having a little sister named Cordelia when all this time it was Cordelia who's older and he had to live behind her shadow all his life causiñg the subplot in through the looking back glass episode?

What about his parents having whole different names? Or the fact that they are deleted from this world??

But in the show they are well alive and have different names.

A "producer" who doesn't even know the lore of his own show definitely isn't a credible source for what's canon in the stf universe. An actual smart person would base what's canon on things that are actually presented in the show itself and not from some tweet of a producer who barely knows the show's own lore

Like I said, this is pretty much JK Rowling all over again lol only difference is the fandom is more gullible this time and will believe anything.

[wormwood2]

You have an issue with your argument. The multiple different sources that can be cited as closest thing to fact for a fantasy world back up the fact that Cedric is late 30s. Is Craig always reliable? NO! Is his Show Draft bible 100% reliable? Not at all! These are all true statements. The problem you have overseen however, is that unlike with past inconsistencies this time BOTH of these sources are backed up by the facts that are canon IN the show itself. One of the "facts" in the show that you've tried to say contradict the fact that Cedric is around the same age as Roland, is that you've tried to point out that he looks much younger than Roland, by looking at his face in the flashback. Similarly however, I can also argue in the same way that he much more closely resembles a late 30 year old. Look at the bags under his eyes, and his more crouched posture. These are signs of aging. Something a 20 year old wouldn't show, but only someone in their later 30s. Also, another in show "fact" I can point out is that the rivalry between Roland and Cedric was only formed because they were able to be rivals due to their ages being similar. To form a rivalry with a much older child than yourself is not something that would as likely occur. With all of this, unlike with you, these "facts" I pointed out not only coincide neatly with the show, but with the other closest things to a fact that we can get: one of the creators opinions AND his early draft. If you want to headcanon that Cedric is in his 20s that is ok, BUT to act like that is MORE canon than him being in his late 30s is honestly very disingenuous.

[agentswibble]

You just mentioned Craig not being reliable as a source of canon information.

That pretty much wraps up your argument. And you pretty much confirmed it.

[wormwood2]

I said he's not ALWAYS reliable. Just like any creator, they may sometimes say things that contradict the show. Cedric being late 20s is NOT contradicted ever. You may have headcanon theories that would go against him being late 30s, but that's not fact.

[agentswibble]

And him being mid 30s as a rookie Royal Sorcerer fresh out of Hexley Hall doesn't make sense. And that's your headcanon

That alone sets the difference between the two age brackets. Mine makes sense in the show - yours make sense in the fandom and twitter

[agentswibble]

Lol this is the JK Rowling incident all over again

If Craig said Cedric was a power ranger and is a brother of Captain America from DC universe who Is also Batman btw who got transported to Enchancia... Y'all will still think that's canon to the show lol

Craig may have made the concept - but the show is made by a couple or writers. There is even an another producer named Jamie Mitchell. Now unless Craig made the whole show on his own, his words holds no weight in what's canon or not. The show doesn't even follow his pitch bible religiously.

There are some few changes they've made that's against Craig's vision - meaning this is a whole different universe than what he has in store

And have we forgotten that he literally had spewed out things about stf that doesn't make sense? Like Cedric having a little sister named Cordelia when all this time it was Cordelia who's older and he had to live behind her shadow all his life causiñg the subplot in through the looking back glass episode?

What about his parents having whole different names? Or the fact that they are deleted from this world??

But in the show they are well alive and have different names.

A "producer" who doesn't even know the lore of his own show definitely isn't a credible source for what's canon in the stf universe. An actual smart person would base what's canon on things that are actually presented in the show itself and not from some tweet of a producer who barely knows the show's own lore

Like I said, this is pretty much JK Rowling all over again lol only difference is the fandom is more gullible this time and will believe anything.

[wormwood2]

You have an issue with your argument. The multiple different sources that can be cited as closest thing to fact for a fantasy world back up the fact that Cedric is late 30s. Is Craig always reliable? NO! Is his Show Draft bible 100% reliable? Not at all! These are all true statements. The problem you have overseen however, is that unlike with past inconsistencies this time BOTH of these sources are backed up by the facts that are canon IN the show itself. One of the "facts" in the show that you've tried to say contradict the fact that Cedric is around the same age as Roland, is that you've tried to point out that he looks much younger than Roland, by looking at his face in the flashback. Similarly however, I can also argue in the same way that he much more closely resembles a late 30 year old. Look at the bags under his eyes, and his more crouched posture. These are signs of aging. Something a 20 year old wouldn't show, but only someone in their later 30s. Also, another in show "fact" I can point out is that the rivalry between Roland and Cedric was only formed because they were able to be rivals due to their ages being similar. To form a rivalry with a much older child than yourself is not something that would as likely occur. With all of this, unlike with you, these "facts" I pointed out not only coincide neatly with the show, but with the other closest things to a fact that we can get: one of the creators opinions AND his early draft. If you want to headcanon that Cedric is in his 20s that is ok, BUT to act like that is MORE canon than him being in his late 30s is honestly very disingenuous.

[agentswibble]

You just mentioned Craig not being reliable as a source of canon information.

That pretty much wraps up your argument. And you pretty much confirmed it.

[agentswibble]

Lol this is the JK Rowling incident all over again

If Craig said Cedric was a power ranger and is a brother of Captain America from DC universe who Is also Batman btw who got transported to Enchancia... Y'all will still think that's canon to the show lol

Craig may have made the concept - but the show is made by a couple or writers. There is even an another producer named Jamie Mitchell. Now unless Craig made the whole show on his own, his words holds no weight in what's canon or not. The show doesn't even follow his pitch bible religiously.

There are some few changes they've made that's against Craig's vision - meaning this is a whole different universe than what he has in store

And have we forgotten that he literally had spewed out things about stf that doesn't make sense? Like Cedric having a little sister named Cordelia when all this time it was Cordelia who's older and he had to live behind her shadow all his life causiñg the subplot in through the looking back glass episode?

What about his parents having whole different names? Or the fact that they are deleted from this world??

But in the show they are well alive and have different names.

A "producer" who doesn't even know the lore of his own show definitely isn't a credible source for what's canon in the stf universe. An actual smart person would base what's canon on things that are actually presented in the show itself and not from some tweet of a producer who barely knows the show's own lore

Like I said, this is pretty much JK Rowling all over again lol only difference is the fandom is more gullible this time and will believe anything.

[wormwood2]

You have an issue with your argument. The multiple different sources that can be cited as closest thing to fact for a fantasy world back up the fact that Cedric is late 30s. Is Craig always reliable? NO! Is his Show Draft bible 100% reliable? Not at all! These are all true statements. The problem you have overseen however, is that unlike with past inconsistencies this time BOTH of these sources are backed up by the facts that are canon IN the show itself. One of the "facts" in the show that you've tried to say contradict the fact that Cedric is around the same age as Roland, is that you've tried to point out that he looks much younger than Roland, by looking at his face in the flashback. Similarly however, I can also argue in the same way that he much more closely resembles a late 30 year old. Look at the bags under his eyes, and his more crouched posture. These are signs of aging. Something a 20 year old wouldn't show, but only someone in their later 30s. Also, another in show "fact" I can point out is that the rivalry between Roland and Cedric was only formed because they were able to be rivals due to their ages being similar. To form a rivalry with a much older child than yourself is not something that would as likely occur. With all of this, unlike with you, these "facts" I pointed out not only coincide neatly with the show, but with the other closest things to a fact that we can get: one of the creators opinions AND his early draft. If you want to headcanon that Cedric is in his 20s that is ok, BUT to act like that is MORE canon than him being in his late 30s is honestly very disingenuous.

[agentswibble]

1. His appearances are caused by a spell gone wrong in the past and the lines on his face are caused by stress and lack of sleep (as stated by Jamie Mitchell himself, an another producer which you probably don't know). His posture is caused by a lack of social interaction and intovertedness. But when he started to become outgoing in the later seasons, his posture became normal again

2. They were not rivals, another outright lie. Never in the show was that stated whatsoever. And Roland had never seen Cedric as an equal.

Again, another one of these uneducated people in the fandom making stuff up just to prove their points lol. This is honestly pathetic and embatrassing. Please think twice before reblogging next time. It's embarrassing to be in the same fandom with ppl like u

[wormwood2]

Why are you using Jamie Mitchell as a source right after you keep refusing the use of Craig Gerber's specifics on the age as a source? That's simply hypocritical. (Also, source for when a spell gone wrong aged his look???) The other issue here is that I actually CAN accept Jamie Mitchell as a source because stating that his aged look is due to lack of sleep still coincides neatly with saying he's in his late 30s, a time when these bad sleeping and living habits would start to show symptoms on him more visibly. 2. Whether they were rivals or not, they had interactions together, and Cedric IS a sort of rival anyway because he literally wants to take over Roland's kingdom. Is that not rivalry? You just pointed out how Roland NEVER "saw Cedric as an equal", this maintains the point I was making. In fact, it makes the case for Roland and Cedric being the same age even stronger. The only reason not seeing him as an equal would matter would be if they ARE equals. And they definitely are relatively equal age wise. Also, how does calling me and other people in the fandom "uneducated" back up your argument? I don't care what you think of me at all lol. Only thing that is relevant is that Cedric being late 30s is backed up by in show facts as well as outside sources (like one of the main creators himself!) Regardless of how brainless or not I am, these "facts" about Cedric's age do not change no matter how much you try to force them to. The most factual thing you can intellectually conclude is that Cedric is late 30s

[agentswibble]

Another one of these threads..

1. Jamie Mitchell never outright said same baseless information about the show and the lore itself in Twitter. And unlike Craig, he actually knows the lore of the SHOW itself and not on some pitch bible

2. I already answered all these other points you made before, you're just circling on it again for some reason. I am not gonna repeat myself for an uneducated Tumblr user who hasn't t even watched the show.

The fact that you don't even know that Cedric's white strands was caused by a spell gone wrong tells me a lot that you didn't even watch the show. The source itself is the looking back glass episode, but of course you know nothing about that..

If you really are interested in why Cedric is in his early twenties - watch the YouTube video that I posted where it explains in full detail why he is. But if you're still gonna go on with this pointless debacle - then you're just proving my point that just like the rest - you're just another Tumblr user in the stf fandom who will believe anything

[wormwood2]

Jamie Mitchell barely gives any information about the show to the fans at all, anyone that is constantly giving out information is bound to give some wrong information. The trick is to filter out what makes sense for the show's actual lore and what doesn't. Cedric being in his late 30s is perfectly reasonably backed up by the series itself. Also, about the hair... when was I ever talking about his hair? I was referring to his face. Read back, you'll see. And I still believe that's a sign of aging, whether it was made worse due to his bad habits does not matter. Lastly, I watched that video. It is very interesting, but it is obviously not perfect. The reason it has flaws is because it assumes everything it states is a fact. In reality, it's full of some stretches and filling in the blank with headcanons to prove that he's younger. Nothing wrong with that, though I should respond to each point the video makes, because just like your arguments, it is full of holes and duct taped cracks. If you have a headcanon that's not backed up directly by any creator of the show, and others hold an idea that IS backed up by a creator of the show, at least admit that. You can have any headcanon or theory you want, but don't treat others that disagree with you as if they are somehow intellectually inferior when YOU are the one basing yours on headcanons that are loosely based on possible explanations for things shown in the series.

[agentswibble]

Ironic how you call it a "headcanon" when your age of him came from a tweet from a producer who barely knows his own lore

Mine is backed with events from the show, and it all connects well. Ive already provided you with points and evidences - even a YouTube video explaining it - and you're still yapping about him being in his late thirties...

Bruh.

And Jamie doesn't give information and whatnot? You do know he's a producer too right? The reason why the show doesn't follow everything in the pitch bible is because of the inputs of Jamie and the board of writers. You know nothing about this show and I've already exposed you on that already. You didn't even watch the show and have made outright lies just to prove your point. Now you're gonna make one for Jamie as well.

The fandom in a nutshell...

[agentswibble]

Lol this is the JK Rowling incident all over again

If Craig said Cedric was a power ranger and is a brother of Captain America from DC universe who Is also Batman btw who got transported to Enchancia... Y'all will still think that's canon to the show lol

Craig may have made the concept - but the show is made by a couple or writers. There is even an another producer named Jamie Mitchell. Now unless Craig made the whole show on his own, his words holds no weight in what's canon or not. The show doesn't even follow his pitch bible religiously.

There are some few changes they've made that's against Craig's vision - meaning this is a whole different universe than what he has in store

And have we forgotten that he literally had spewed out things about stf that doesn't make sense? Like Cedric having a little sister named Cordelia when all this time it was Cordelia who's older and he had to live behind her shadow all his life causiñg the subplot in through the looking back glass episode?

What about his parents having whole different names? Or the fact that they are deleted from this world??

But in the show they are well alive and have different names.

A "producer" who doesn't even know the lore of his own show definitely isn't a credible source for what's canon in the stf universe. An actual smart person would base what's canon on things that are actually presented in the show itself and not from some tweet of a producer who barely knows the show's own lore

Like I said, this is pretty much JK Rowling all over again lol only difference is the fandom is more gullible this time and will believe anything.

[wormwood2]

You have an issue with your argument. The multiple different sources that can be cited as closest thing to fact for a fantasy world back up the fact that Cedric is late 30s. Is Craig always reliable? NO! Is his Show Draft bible 100% reliable? Not at all! These are all true statements. The problem you have overseen however, is that unlike with past inconsistencies this time BOTH of these sources are backed up by the facts that are canon IN the show itself. One of the "facts" in the show that you've tried to say contradict the fact that Cedric is around the same age as Roland, is that you've tried to point out that he looks much younger than Roland, by looking at his face in the flashback. Similarly however, I can also argue in the same way that he much more closely resembles a late 30 year old. Look at the bags under his eyes, and his more crouched posture. These are signs of aging. Something a 20 year old wouldn't show, but only someone in their later 30s. Also, another in show "fact" I can point out is that the rivalry between Roland and Cedric was only formed because they were able to be rivals due to their ages being similar. To form a rivalry with a much older child than yourself is not something that would as likely occur. With all of this, unlike with you, these "facts" I pointed out not only coincide neatly with the show, but with the other closest things to a fact that we can get: one of the creators opinions AND his early draft. If you want to headcanon that Cedric is in his 20s that is ok, BUT to act like that is MORE canon than him being in his late 30s is honestly very disingenuous.

[agentswibble]

1. His appearances are caused by a spell gone wrong in the past and the lines on his face are caused by stress and lack of sleep (as stated by Jamie Mitchell himself, an another producer which you probably don't know). His posture is caused by a lack of social interaction and intovertedness. But when he started to become outgoing in the later seasons, his posture became normal again

2. They were not rivals, another outright lie. Never in the show was that stated whatsoever. And Roland had never seen Cedric as an equal.

Again, another one of these uneducated people in the fandom making stuff up just to prove their points lol. This is honestly pathetic and embatrassing. Please think twice before reblogging next time. It's embarrassing to be in the same fandom with ppl like u

[wormwood2]

Why are you using Jamie Mitchell as a source right after you keep refusing the use of Craig Gerber's specifics on the age as a source? That's simply hypocritical. (Also, source for when a spell gone wrong aged his look???) The other issue here is that I actually CAN accept Jamie Mitchell as a source because stating that his aged look is due to lack of sleep still coincides neatly with saying he's in his late 30s, a time when these bad sleeping and living habits would start to show symptoms on him more visibly. 2. Whether they were rivals or not, they had interactions together, and Cedric IS a sort of rival anyway because he literally wants to take over Roland's kingdom. Is that not rivalry? You just pointed out how Roland NEVER "saw Cedric as an equal", this maintains the point I was making. In fact, it makes the case for Roland and Cedric being the same age even stronger. The only reason not seeing him as an equal would matter would be if they ARE equals. And they definitely are relatively equal age wise. Also, how does calling me and other people in the fandom "uneducated" back up your argument? I don't care what you think of me at all lol. Only thing that is relevant is that Cedric being late 30s is backed up by in show facts as well as outside sources (like one of the main creators himself!) Regardless of how brainless or not I am, these "facts" about Cedric's age do not change no matter how much you try to force them to. The most factual thing you can intellectually conclude is that Cedric is late 30s

[agentswibble]

Another one of these threads..

1. Jamie Mitchell never outright said same baseless information about the show and the lore itself in Twitter. And unlike Craig, he actually knows the lore of the SHOW itself and not on some pitch bible

2. I already answered all these other points you made before, you're just circling on it again for some reason. I am not gonna repeat myself for an uneducated Tumblr user who hasn't t even watched the show.

The fact that you don't even know that Cedric's white strands was caused by a spell gone wrong tells me a lot that you didn't even watch the show. The source itself is the looking back glass episode, but of course you know nothing about that..

If you really are interested in why Cedric is in his early twenties - watch the YouTube video that I posted where it explains in full detail why he is. But if you're still gonna go on with this pointless debacle - then you're just proving my point that just like the rest - you're just another Tumblr user in the stf fandom who will believe anything

[agentswibble]

This video perfectly explains Cedric's canon age based on actual events on the show and evidences that leads to that conclusion. Watch it if you're interested

[agentswibble]

You asked and provoked me for a response well here it is. And just incase you block me like the other person did. And in case you cry and play the victim like she did - I'm putting the receipts in this post so everyone in the fandom can see how you ppl really think.

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I've decided to put these people out in a form of post to show everyone how these people in the fandom really think lol. And since it's the start of summer vacation, I got all the time in the world to spare

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Since u wanna go with appearance, I hope u know his white strands were caused by a spell gone wrong in the past

and the lines on his face are caused by stress and lack of sleep (as stated by Jamie Mitchell himself, an another producer which you probably don't know). His posture is caused by a lack of social interaction and intovertedness. But when he started to become outgoing in the later seasons, his posture became normal again. You can see for yourself in Forever Royal.

2. They were not rivals, another outright lie. Never in the show was that stated whatsoever. And Roland had never seen Cedric as an equal. Did you even watch the series??

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Makes sense?? @wormwood2 how does that make sense when he was literally fresh off from the academy to replace his dad as the RS. And he spent 15 years in Hexley Hall and went there as a child

Now how the heck does that make him in his 30s?? You expect me to believe he already had spent a decade of being a RS and still messes up spells, still doesn't know the ways to the castle, still had a supervision painting from his parents to watch over him and still is nervous around his boss the king??

Unless you can do the math properly, or even have common sense. don't ever come at me again with that stupidity.

Again, another one of these uneducated people in the fandom making stuff up just to prove their points lol. This is honestly pathetic and embarrassing. Please think twice before reblogging next time. It's embarrassing to be in the same fandom with ppl like yourself

[agentswibble]

Lol this is the JK Rowling incident all over again

If Craig said Cedric was a power ranger and is a brother of Captain America from DC universe who Is also Batman btw who got transported to Enchancia... Y'all will still think that's canon to the show lol

Craig may have made the concept - but the show is made by a couple or writers. There is even an another producer named Jamie Mitchell. Now unless Craig made the whole show on his own, his words holds no weight in what's canon or not. The show doesn't even follow his pitch bible religiously.

There are some few changes they've made that's against Craig's vision - meaning this is a whole different universe than what he has in store

And have we forgotten that he literally had spewed out things about stf that doesn't make sense? Like Cedric having a little sister named Cordelia when all this time it was Cordelia who's older and he had to live behind her shadow all his life causiñg the subplot in through the looking back glass episode?

What about his parents having whole different names? Or the fact that they are deleted from this world??

But in the show they are well alive and have different names.

A "producer" who doesn't even know the lore of his own show definitely isn't a credible source for what's canon in the stf universe. An actual smart person would base what's canon on things that are actually presented in the show itself and not from some tweet of a producer who barely knows the show's own lore

Like I said, this is pretty much JK Rowling all over again lol only difference is the fandom is more gullible this time and will believe anything.

[wormwood2]

You have an issue with your argument. The multiple different sources that can be cited as closest thing to fact for a fantasy world back up the fact that Cedric is late 30s. Is Craig always reliable? NO! Is his Show Draft bible 100% reliable? Not at all! These are all true statements. The problem you have overseen however, is that unlike with past inconsistencies this time BOTH of these sources are backed up by the facts that are canon IN the show itself. One of the "facts" in the show that you've tried to say contradict the fact that Cedric is around the same age as Roland, is that you've tried to point out that he looks much younger than Roland, by looking at his face in the flashback. Similarly however, I can also argue in the same way that he much more closely resembles a late 30 year old. Look at the bags under his eyes, and his more crouched posture. These are signs of aging. Something a 20 year old wouldn't show, but only someone in their later 30s. Also, another in show "fact" I can point out is that the rivalry between Roland and Cedric was only formed because they were able to be rivals due to their ages being similar. To form a rivalry with a much older child than yourself is not something that would as likely occur. With all of this, unlike with you, these "facts" I pointed out not only coincide neatly with the show, but with the other closest things to a fact that we can get: one of the creators opinions AND his early draft. If you want to headcanon that Cedric is in his 20s that is ok, BUT to act like that is MORE canon than him being in his late 30s is honestly very disingenuous.

[agentswibble]

1. His appearances are caused by a spell gone wrong in the past and the lines on his face are caused by stress and lack of sleep (as stated by Jamie Mitchell himself, an another producer which you probably don't know). His posture is caused by a lack of social interaction and intovertedness. But when he started to become outgoing in the later seasons, his posture became normal again

2. They were not rivals, another outright lie. Never in the show was that stated whatsoever. And Roland had never seen Cedric as an equal.

Again, another one of these uneducated people in the fandom making stuff up just to prove their points lol. This is honestly pathetic and embatrassing. Please think twice before reblogging next time. It's embarrassing to be in the same fandom with ppl like u

[agentswibble]

Lol this is the JK Rowling incident all over again

If Craig said Cedric was a power ranger and is a brother of Captain America from DC universe who Is also Batman btw who got transported to Enchancia... Y'all will still think that's canon to the show lol

Craig may have made the concept - but the show is made by a couple or writers. There is even an another producer named Jamie Mitchell. Now unless Craig made the whole show on his own, his words holds no weight in what's canon or not. The show doesn't even follow his pitch bible religiously.

There are some few changes they've made that's against Craig's vision - meaning this is a whole different universe than what he has in store

And have we forgotten that he literally had spewed out things about stf that doesn't make sense? Like Cedric having a little sister named Cordelia when all this time it was Cordelia who's older and he had to live behind her shadow all his life causiñg the subplot in through the looking back glass episode?

What about his parents having whole different names? Or the fact that they are deleted from this world??

But in the show they are well alive and have different names.

A "producer" who doesn't even know the lore of his own show definitely isn't a credible source for what's canon in the stf universe. An actual smart person would base what's canon on things that are actually presented in the show itself and not from some tweet of a producer who barely knows the show's own lore

Like I said, this is pretty much JK Rowling all over again lol only difference is the fandom is more gullible this time and will believe anything.

[agentswibble]

I read the pitch Bible (which is pretty much like the concept lore of the show) and when I read Cedric's parents being named something else, I knew this was all just Craig's headcanon

And knowing Craig's age for Cedric came from his pitch bible only proves my point that age is definitely not canon

The Board of Writers definitely made him younger so they can have an excuse for him being a "Fresh-out-of-Hexley-Hall" replacement for his father who doesnt know his ways around the wand just yet.

Cedric was definitely just around in his Early twenties in the first movie. Being fresh out of the Academy to replace his Father Goodwyn and all

[nox-in-a-box]

(Genuine question because I am not sure how this works) How is it not canon? What makes information canon even?

[sweetmariihs2]

Incorrect information. No one ever said he was fresh out of Hexley hall.

Actually, in a tweet one of the creators informed he was in his late 30s. I can't find this tweet right now but I know that other people also remember it's existence, maybe @shychick-52 can find it for me since she always knows these things 😭

(Found this on a roleplay website I believe)

All that Cedric said was that he studied for 15 years (if i'm not mistaken it happened during the royal sleepover episode), not that this happened yesterday.

Someone can study for 15 years and some years later still tell people they studied for 15 years. Because it was a period of their life, not that this happened recently or anything.

Source: Disney Wiki (but you don't really need a source just watch the episodes)

But yeah that theory about Cedric being in his early 20s is wrong, because this has no background that can prove it to be true. Actually, there is more evidence hinting about him being in his late 30s and this theory is just confusing everything.

Roland himself is an adult and him and Cedric were almost the same age, they grew up together. If Roland was in his mid/early 30s he and Queen Lorelei would be expecting children in their teens. So weird!

[agentswibble]

All you mentioned are nothing but fanmade info. And Craig is just the producer of the show. The ones who created the lore is the of board of writers who actually study and construct proper continuities from once upon a princess to Forever Royal

Cedric entered Hexley Hall at such a young age and studied 15 years there. That only means he was in his early twenties when he graduated. And if you have watched the show, it is very implied that he is very incompetent at his work and needs supervision from his parents (the painting on his workshop). He was definitely a new hire rookie Royal Sorcerer to replace his Father and had to leave Hexley Hall Early

Not to mention he acts nervous around King Roland (his boss) which is actually a real phenomenon called the new job anxiety. Google it.

Since you mentioned ages, I hope you know royals marry early. And since James and Amber are still kids, that only means Roland is definitely still in his early thirties in the first movie. And since Cedric is a lot younger than him, he definitely is still in his twenties. In the flashbacks, u could tell the age gap when Roland looks like a whole teenager and Cedric still has his baby cheeks

I study this lore like it's my profession. And no matter how you put it, Cedric being in his mid thirties doesn't make sense. Craig stating this was based on his pitch bible that is NOT canon at all. His parents being named something else should already tell u that his pitch bible was not meant to be used as canon reference

[sweetmariihs2]

I thought we all already knew that Cedric messes up because he gets nervous, it's, like, fundamental to his role in the show. And when Roland talks about Cedric in the pilot, he shows that he's used to dealing with Cedric's failures and is disappointed by it. No one ever mentioned Cedric having just taken up the role of sorcerer except the fandom itself. On the contrary, some people involved in STF confirmed him being in his late 30s. You "studying lore" doesn’t take away the words of those involved in creating the show. I asked my friend @shychick-52 to send us the tweet and she did! Thank you <3

Cedric seems very used to (and tired of) that life, and if he was so motivated about getting revenge and taking over the throne, it shows that he's been putting up with everyone's shit for a while.

Actually, in Once Upon a Princess, right after he see's Sofia's amulet for the first time and runs to his workshop to scheme he says something like "After all these years I can't believe that the Amulet Of Avalor was right under my nose!" (I'm saying this based on the Brazillian Portuguese dub that I have, I don't have any access to the movie in English)

Could this mean he had been thinking about the amulet since he was young and his father was the Royal Sorcerer? Yes. But at least we know he's been bitter for a while.

There is no evidence of Cedric being in his early 20s inside the show besides the fandom's headcanons, but we have two different official sources saying he was in his late 30s/37, which is not a definitive answer because it wasn't inside the show, but it's something. "But I'm a fan and I don't think he is because it doesn't make sense" it's your word agaist Craig's

And tell me what world do you live in to believe that Disney in 2014 would make teenagers get married and have children?!?? The old Disney princesses are a different case because they are from the 1900s

This doesn't make sense at all because Sofia The First breaks some royal rules, such as the rule that the eldest child takes the throne and not exclusively the son. Everybody knows that people choose the next ruler based on who's the oldest son, and yet Amber is the next queen. And I don't know if teenagers marrying and having children would be accepted in a toddler's show

[agentswibble]

We literally just found out that age came from his pitch bible which pretty means an information not canon to the story. The board of writers had changed a lot from his pitch bible, no doubt they would also change his age to fit with his circumstances shown in the show itself

Cedric's parents names in the actual show are GOODWIN AND WINIFRED not Mandrake and Hazel written in the pitch bible. And they are ALIVE. This alone should already tell you that pitch bible of his is not a reliable source of canon information when it can barely give factual information that connects to the actual show's lore

[sweetmariihs2]

But craig told us so 😶

Did anyone ever mentioned that he was in his early 20s?

[agentswibble]

I literally stated a whole throurough thread on why his words doesn't equate to canon in the series. I honestly don't know what part you can't understand. I've stated evidences and hints that Cedric is indeed in a certain age bracket yet you still insist on a headcanon age..

[sweetmariihs2]

A friend of mine sent me this! I believe she doesn't wanna get envolved or else she would have already said something, so I'm just gonna show you then

How is it a headcanon age when all ur saying is based on what do you think and not on the show itself? Can you send me any argument that can defend this? Because if I'm not mistaken they told us "30s" two times, but never "20s"

[agentswibble]

Again, I am gonna debunk all of these

1. No way Cedric and Roland are the same age in the flashback. Roland was near mid teens by then and Cedric still had his baby cheeks. His voice hasn't even gotten deep yet.

2. Roland obviously is an adult when the twins are born. He is 18-20 by then and that is an adult by all accounts.

3. Cordelia is NOT younger then Cedric. It was stated in looking back glass and Gone with the wand episodes that Cordelia is the older sister hence she was always seen as the better sibling. Cedric was the baby brother whom always had to live under her shadow and that's why he resented her

4. I literally stated many evidences and hints that point out that he is a rookie Royal Sorcerer fresh from Hexley Hall. Everything leading to the same conclusion that he is in his early twenties. I literally stated this a bunch of times already..

5. Your friend being an animator is irrelevant to the topic. And the show definitely had a board of writers. They are literally shown in the credits after every episodes. Craig is not only the writer, if that's the case then everything from his pitch bible should've been in the final product but it wasnt

And if we are going there, Craig isn't even the only producer. Jamie Mitchell also is a producer of the show. That point is definitely an uneducated guess

As usual, you just proved you are uneducated about the show in general. First you made assumptions then you asked for your friend who did the same as well. I told you already that you have no dog in this discussion. I literally have watched this show for a decade now and I know every single detail about it. And I remember it till this day so there is no way you and your friend could deceive me.

Cedric being in his mid thirties doesn't make sense. End of story. Now if you want to have a headcanon that he is - go for it. But what you're not gonna do is make stuffs up just to prove he is what you want him to be

[sweetmariihs2]

Why are you so mad? You don't like it when people go against you opinion? 👀

Those messages weren't written by me, they're from a friend. I just sent you what she said

1. Roland is older but THERE'S NO WAY THIS IS A TEENAGER

Cedric has baby cheeks and he has them till this day lmao that's just him

2. I don't think that 19 year old Roland would look that mature tbh. They reused the same model lmao he was clearly older than 19/20

3. I know that she's older than Cedric, that's just what my friend said and I sent you the screenshots

4. Well if you have it then you didn't showed us any, cuz I still can't find them in your posts🧍‍♂️

5. You're hurt because I told you that just because you're "studying lore" it doesn't change the writer's words? 🥺

Idk why you're mad lmao. Other ppl from the cedric hashtag/fandom here on tumblr are finding you rude and your arguments are too shallow

You can say literally anything, ANYTHING to prove that Cedric is in his 20s (which you didn't since you started writing this post), it won't take away these two screenshots

At this point I'm just convinced you're a troll account because you don't have anything on your profile besides this post

And really? Go do something productive. Getting mad at people on Tumblr because they're talking about something stupid like Sofia The First confirmed characters ages is just so miserable

I'm just replying to you again because it seems like you don't have eyes to see that those messages weren't mine, and you're still being extremely rude and off putting for no reason

You're mad about what? About Craig Gerber's words???!??! Ok, Jamie Mitchell was silent, while these two screenshots right above this paragraph are still on the internet

"Prove me that this is canon" *canon information* "no I don't believe it boohoo my version is better"

Girl I'm busy with my stuff, just block me if you're mad

[agentswibble]

And again, you're proving my point by assuming things yet again. I've been nothing but articulate with my criticisms towards your ignorance with the shows content and you responded by attacking me personally. But I will be the better person and put that aside.

The only thing relevant to the topic you mentioned was when you brought up Cedric and Roland being the same age yet again. First of all, Cedric do not have baby cheeks in his adult form. He has lines on his face due to stress and pressure of being the Royal Sorcerer of the kingdom. And you didn't mention anything about his voice being unusually high pitched for someone who is supposed to be "Roland's age" in the flashbacks and that's pretty much all I need to conclude you have nothing to else to offer than uneducated guesses and bland remarks

If you have nothing else to say that's relevant to the topic itself, please keep your opinions to yourself. Anything about me or my personal life has nothing to do with the matter at hand. What the fandom thinks is none of my concern, if they have any issues with my points, they are free to join in and contradict.

Tldr: Keep your response short and relevant. Anything else unrelated will be overlooked.

[sweetmariihs2]

Stop reblogging please or else I'll block you

[agentswibble]

@sweetmariihs2 sweetmariihs2. This was my thread to begin with and now you wanna whine about harassment. Pathetic. Kick rocks. Let this be a lesson learned to just leave people alone next time.

Next time, keep your opinions to yourself if you can't back it up.

[agentswibble]

I read the pitch Bible (which is pretty much like the concept lore of the show) and when I read Cedric's parents being named something else, I knew this was all just Craig's headcanon

And knowing Craig's age for Cedric came from his pitch bible only proves my point that age is definitely not canon

The Board of Writers definitely made him younger so they can have an excuse for him being a "Fresh-out-of-Hexley-Hall" replacement for his father who doesnt know his ways around the wand just yet.

Cedric was definitely just around in his Early twenties in the first movie. Being fresh out of the Academy to replace his Father Goodwyn and all

[nox-in-a-box]

(Genuine question because I am not sure how this works) How is it not canon? What makes information canon even?

[sweetmariihs2]

Incorrect information. No one ever said he was fresh out of Hexley hall.

Actually, in a tweet one of the creators informed he was in his late 30s. I can't find this tweet right now but I know that other people also remember it's existence, maybe @shychick-52 can find it for me since she always knows these things 😭

(Found this on a roleplay website I believe)

All that Cedric said was that he studied for 15 years (if i'm not mistaken it happened during the royal sleepover episode), not that this happened yesterday.

Someone can study for 15 years and some years later still tell people they studied for 15 years. Because it was a period of their life, not that this happened recently or anything.

Source: Disney Wiki (but you don't really need a source just watch the episodes)

But yeah that theory about Cedric being in his early 20s is wrong, because this has no background that can prove it to be true. Actually, there is more evidence hinting about him being in his late 30s and this theory is just confusing everything.

Roland himself is an adult and him and Cedric were almost the same age, they grew up together. If Roland was in his mid/early 30s he and Queen Lorelei would be expecting children in their teens. So weird!

[agentswibble]

All you mentioned are nothing but fanmade info. And Craig is just the producer of the show. The ones who created the lore is the of board of writers who actually study and construct proper continuities from once upon a princess to Forever Royal

Cedric entered Hexley Hall at such a young age and studied 15 years there. That only means he was in his early twenties when he graduated. And if you have watched the show, it is very implied that he is very incompetent at his work and needs supervision from his parents (the painting on his workshop). He was definitely a new hire rookie Royal Sorcerer to replace his Father and had to leave Hexley Hall Early

Not to mention he acts nervous around King Roland (his boss) which is actually a real phenomenon called the new job anxiety. Google it.

Since you mentioned ages, I hope you know royals marry early. And since James and Amber are still kids, that only means Roland is definitely still in his early thirties in the first movie. And since Cedric is a lot younger than him, he definitely is still in his twenties. In the flashbacks, u could tell the age gap when Roland looks like a whole teenager and Cedric still has his baby cheeks

I study this lore like it's my profession. And no matter how you put it, Cedric being in his mid thirties doesn't make sense. Craig stating this was based on his pitch bible that is NOT canon at all. His parents being named something else should already tell u that his pitch bible was not meant to be used as canon reference

[sweetmariihs2]

I thought we all already knew that Cedric messes up because he gets nervous, it's, like, fundamental to his role in the show. And when Roland talks about Cedric in the pilot, he shows that he's used to dealing with Cedric's failures and is disappointed by it. No one ever mentioned Cedric having just taken up the role of sorcerer except the fandom itself. On the contrary, some people involved in STF confirmed him being in his late 30s. You "studying lore" doesn’t take away the words of those involved in creating the show. I asked my friend @shychick-52 to send us the tweet and she did! Thank you <3

Cedric seems very used to (and tired of) that life, and if he was so motivated about getting revenge and taking over the throne, it shows that he's been putting up with everyone's shit for a while.

Actually, in Once Upon a Princess, right after he see's Sofia's amulet for the first time and runs to his workshop to scheme he says something like "After all these years I can't believe that the Amulet Of Avalor was right under my nose!" (I'm saying this based on the Brazillian Portuguese dub that I have, I don't have any access to the movie in English)

Could this mean he had been thinking about the amulet since he was young and his father was the Royal Sorcerer? Yes. But at least we know he's been bitter for a while.

There is no evidence of Cedric being in his early 20s inside the show besides the fandom's headcanons, but we have two different official sources saying he was in his late 30s/37, which is not a definitive answer because it wasn't inside the show, but it's something. "But I'm a fan and I don't think he is because it doesn't make sense" it's your word agaist Craig's

And tell me what world do you live in to believe that Disney in 2014 would make teenagers get married and have children?!?? The old Disney princesses are a different case because they are from the 1900s

This doesn't make sense at all because Sofia The First breaks some royal rules, such as the rule that the eldest child takes the throne and not exclusively the son. Everybody knows that people choose the next ruler based on who's the oldest son, and yet Amber is the next queen. And I don't know if teenagers marrying and having children would be accepted in a toddler's show

[agentswibble]

We literally just found out that age came from his pitch bible which pretty means an information not canon to the story. The board of writers had changed a lot from his pitch bible, no doubt they would also change his age to fit with his circumstances shown in the show itself

Cedric's parents names in the actual show are GOODWIN AND WINIFRED not Mandrake and Hazel written in the pitch bible. And they are ALIVE. This alone should already tell you that pitch bible of his is not a reliable source of canon information when it can barely give factual information that connects to the actual show's lore

[sweetmariihs2]

But craig told us so 😶

Did anyone ever mentioned that he was in his early 20s?

[agentswibble]

I literally stated a whole throurough thread on why his words doesn't equate to canon in the series. I honestly don't know what part you can't understand. I've stated evidences and hints that Cedric is indeed in a certain age bracket yet you still insist on a headcanon age..

[sweetmariihs2]

A friend of mine sent me this! I believe she doesn't wanna get envolved or else she would have already said something, so I'm just gonna show you then

How is it a headcanon age when all ur saying is based on what do you think and not on the show itself? Can you send me any argument that can defend this? Because if I'm not mistaken they told us "30s" two times, but never "20s"

[agentswibble]

Again, I am gonna debunk all of these

1. No way Cedric and Roland are the same age in the flashback. Roland was near mid teens by then and Cedric still had his baby cheeks. His voice hasn't even gotten deep yet.

2. Roland obviously is an adult when the twins are born. He is 18-20 by then and that is an adult by all accounts.

3. Cordelia is NOT younger then Cedric. It was stated in looking back glass and Gone with the wand episodes that Cordelia is the older sister hence she was always seen as the better sibling. Cedric was the baby brother whom always had to live under her shadow and that's why he resented her

4. I literally stated many evidences and hints that point out that he is a rookie Royal Sorcerer fresh from Hexley Hall. Everything leading to the same conclusion that he is in his early twenties. I literally stated this a bunch of times already..

5. Your friend being an animator is irrelevant to the topic. And the show definitely had a board of writers. They are literally shown in the credits after every episodes. Craig is not only the writer, if that's the case then everything from his pitch bible should've been in the final product but it wasnt

And if we are going there, Craig isn't even the only producer. Jamie Mitchell also is a producer of the show. That point is definitely an uneducated guess

As usual, you just proved you are uneducated about the show in general. First you made assumptions then you asked for your friend who did the same as well. I told you already that you have no dog in this discussion. I literally have watched this show for a decade now and I know every single detail about it. And I remember it till this day so there is no way you and your friend could deceive me.

Cedric being in his mid thirties doesn't make sense. End of story. Now if you want to have a headcanon that he is - go for it. But what you're not gonna do is make stuffs up just to prove he is what you want him to be

[sweetmariihs2]

Why are you so mad? You don't like it when people go against you opinion? 👀

Those messages weren't written by me, they're from a friend. I just sent you what she said

1. Roland is older but THERE'S NO WAY THIS IS A TEENAGER

Cedric has baby cheeks and he has them till this day lmao that's just him

2. I don't think that 19 year old Roland would look that mature tbh. They reused the same model lmao he was clearly older than 19/20

3. I know that she's older than Cedric, that's just what my friend said and I sent you the screenshots

4. Well if you have it then you didn't showed us any, cuz I still can't find them in your posts🧍‍♂️

5. You're hurt because I told you that just because you're "studying lore" it doesn't change the writer's words? 🥺

Idk why you're mad lmao. Other ppl from the cedric hashtag/fandom here on tumblr are finding you rude and your arguments are too shallow

You can say literally anything, ANYTHING to prove that Cedric is in his 20s (which you didn't since you started writing this post), it won't take away these two screenshots

At this point I'm just convinced you're a troll account because you don't have anything on your profile besides this post

And really? Go do something productive. Getting mad at people on Tumblr because they're talking about something stupid like Sofia The First confirmed characters ages is just so miserable

I'm just replying to you again because it seems like you don't have eyes to see that those messages weren't mine, and you're still being extremely rude and off putting for no reason

You're mad about what? About Craig Gerber's words???!??! Ok, Jamie Mitchell was silent, while these two screenshots right above this paragraph are still on the internet

"Prove me that this is canon" *canon information* "no I don't believe it boohoo my version is better"

Girl I'm busy with my stuff, just block me if you're mad

[agentswibble]

And again, you're proving my point by assuming things yet again. I've been nothing but articulate with my criticisms towards your ignorance with the shows content and you responded by attacking me personally. But I will be the better person and put that aside.

The only thing relevant to the topic you mentioned was when you brought up Cedric and Roland being the same age yet again. First of all, Cedric do not have baby cheeks in his adult form. He has lines on his face due to stress and pressure of being the Royal Sorcerer of the kingdom. And you didn't mention anything about his voice being unusually high pitched for someone who is supposed to be "Roland's age" in the flashbacks and that's pretty much all I need to conclude you have nothing to else to offer than uneducated guesses and bland remarks

If you have nothing else to say that's relevant to the topic itself, please keep your opinions to yourself. Anything about me or my personal life has nothing to do with the matter at hand. What the fandom thinks is none of my concern, if they have any issues with my points, they are free to join in and contradict.

Tldr: Keep your response short and relevant. Anything else unrelated will be overlooked.

[agentswibble]

I read the pitch Bible (which is pretty much like the concept lore of the show) and when I read Cedric's parents being named something else, I knew this was all just Craig's headcanon

And knowing Craig's age for Cedric came from his pitch bible only proves my point that age is definitely not canon

The Board of Writers definitely made him younger so they can have an excuse for him being a "Fresh-out-of-Hexley-Hall" replacement for his father who doesnt know his ways around the wand just yet.

Cedric was definitely just around in his Early twenties in the first movie. Being fresh out of the Academy to replace his Father Goodwyn and all

[nox-in-a-box]

(Genuine question because I am not sure how this works) How is it not canon? What makes information canon even?

[sweetmariihs2]

Incorrect information. No one ever said he was fresh out of Hexley hall.

Actually, in a tweet one of the creators informed he was in his late 30s. I can't find this tweet right now but I know that other people also remember it's existence, maybe @shychick-52 can find it for me since she always knows these things 😭

(Found this on a roleplay website I believe)

All that Cedric said was that he studied for 15 years (if i'm not mistaken it happened during the royal sleepover episode), not that this happened yesterday.

Someone can study for 15 years and some years later still tell people they studied for 15 years. Because it was a period of their life, not that this happened recently or anything.

Source: Disney Wiki (but you don't really need a source just watch the episodes)

But yeah that theory about Cedric being in his early 20s is wrong, because this has no background that can prove it to be true. Actually, there is more evidence hinting about him being in his late 30s and this theory is just confusing everything.

Roland himself is an adult and him and Cedric were almost the same age, they grew up together. If Roland was in his mid/early 30s he and Queen Lorelei would be expecting children in their teens. So weird!

[agentswibble]

All you mentioned are nothing but fanmade info. And Craig is just the producer of the show. The ones who created the lore is the of board of writers who actually study and construct proper continuities from once upon a princess to Forever Royal

Cedric entered Hexley Hall at such a young age and studied 15 years there. That only means he was in his early twenties when he graduated. And if you have watched the show, it is very implied that he is very incompetent at his work and needs supervision from his parents (the painting on his workshop). He was definitely a new hire rookie Royal Sorcerer to replace his Father and had to leave Hexley Hall Early

Not to mention he acts nervous around King Roland (his boss) which is actually a real phenomenon called the new job anxiety. Google it.

Since you mentioned ages, I hope you know royals marry early. And since James and Amber are still kids, that only means Roland is definitely still in his early thirties in the first movie. And since Cedric is a lot younger than him, he definitely is still in his twenties. In the flashbacks, u could tell the age gap when Roland looks like a whole teenager and Cedric still has his baby cheeks

I study this lore like it's my profession. And no matter how you put it, Cedric being in his mid thirties doesn't make sense. Craig stating this was based on his pitch bible that is NOT canon at all. His parents being named something else should already tell u that his pitch bible was not meant to be used as canon reference

[sweetmariihs2]

I thought we all already knew that Cedric messes up because he gets nervous, it's, like, fundamental to his role in the show. And when Roland talks about Cedric in the pilot, he shows that he's used to dealing with Cedric's failures and is disappointed by it. No one ever mentioned Cedric having just taken up the role of sorcerer except the fandom itself. On the contrary, some people involved in STF confirmed him being in his late 30s. You "studying lore" doesn’t take away the words of those involved in creating the show. I asked my friend @shychick-52 to send us the tweet and she did! Thank you <3

Cedric seems very used to (and tired of) that life, and if he was so motivated about getting revenge and taking over the throne, it shows that he's been putting up with everyone's shit for a while.

Actually, in Once Upon a Princess, right after he see's Sofia's amulet for the first time and runs to his workshop to scheme he says something like "After all these years I can't believe that the Amulet Of Avalor was right under my nose!" (I'm saying this based on the Brazillian Portuguese dub that I have, I don't have any access to the movie in English)

Could this mean he had been thinking about the amulet since he was young and his father was the Royal Sorcerer? Yes. But at least we know he's been bitter for a while.

There is no evidence of Cedric being in his early 20s inside the show besides the fandom's headcanons, but we have two different official sources saying he was in his late 30s/37, which is not a definitive answer because it wasn't inside the show, but it's something. "But I'm a fan and I don't think he is because it doesn't make sense" it's your word agaist Craig's

And tell me what world do you live in to believe that Disney in 2014 would make teenagers get married and have children?!?? The old Disney princesses are a different case because they are from the 1900s

This doesn't make sense at all because Sofia The First breaks some royal rules, such as the rule that the eldest child takes the throne and not exclusively the son. Everybody knows that people choose the next ruler based on who's the oldest son, and yet Amber is the next queen. And I don't know if teenagers marrying and having children would be accepted in a toddler's show

[agentswibble]

We literally just found out that age came from his pitch bible which pretty means an information not canon to the story. The board of writers had changed a lot from his pitch bible, no doubt they would also change his age to fit with his circumstances shown in the show itself

Cedric's parents names in the actual show are GOODWIN AND WINIFRED not Mandrake and Hazel written in the pitch bible. And they are ALIVE. This alone should already tell you that pitch bible of his is not a reliable source of canon information when it can barely give factual information that connects to the actual show's lore

[sweetmariihs2]

But craig told us so 😶

Did anyone ever mentioned that he was in his early 20s?

[agentswibble]

I literally stated a whole throurough thread on why his words doesn't equate to canon in the series. I honestly don't know what part you can't understand. I've stated evidences and hints that Cedric is indeed in a certain age bracket yet you still insist on a headcanon age..

[sweetmariihs2]

A friend of mine sent me this! I believe she doesn't wanna get envolved or else she would have already said something, so I'm just gonna show you then

How is it a headcanon age when all ur saying is based on what do you think and not on the show itself? Can you send me any argument that can defend this? Because if I'm not mistaken they told us "30s" two times, but never "20s"

[agentswibble]

Again, I am gonna debunk all of these

1. No way Cedric and Roland are the same age in the flashback. Roland was near mid teens by then and Cedric still had his baby cheeks. His voice hasn't even gotten deep yet.

2. Roland obviously is an adult when the twins are born. He is 18-20 by then and that is an adult by all accounts.

3. Cordelia is NOT younger then Cedric. It was stated in looking back glass and Gone with the wand episodes that Cordelia is the older sister hence she was always seen as the better sibling. Cedric was the baby brother whom always had to live under her shadow and that's why he resented her

4. I literally stated many evidences and hints that point out that he is a rookie Royal Sorcerer fresh from Hexley Hall. Everything leading to the same conclusion that he is in his early twenties. I literally stated this a bunch of times already..

5. Your friend being an animator is irrelevant to the topic. And the show definitely had a board of writers. They are literally shown in the credits after every episodes. Craig is not only the writer, if that's the case then everything from his pitch bible should've been in the final product but it wasnt

And if we are going there, Craig isn't even the only producer. Jamie Mitchell also is a producer of the show. That point is definitely an uneducated guess

As usual, you just proved you are uneducated about the show in general. First you made assumptions then you asked for your friend who did the same as well. I told you already that you have no dog in this discussion. I literally have watched this show for a decade now and I know every single detail about it. And I remember it till this day so there is no way you and your friend could deceive me.

Cedric being in his mid thirties doesn't make sense. End of story. Now if you want to have a headcanon that he is - go for it. But what you're not gonna do is make stuffs up just to prove he is what you want him to be

[agentswibble]

I read the pitch Bible (which is pretty much like the concept lore of the show) and when I read Cedric's parents being named something else, I knew this was all just Craig's headcanon

And knowing Craig's age for Cedric came from his pitch bible only proves my point that age is definitely not canon

The Board of Writers definitely made him younger so they can have an excuse for him being a "Fresh-out-of-Hexley-Hall" replacement for his father who doesnt know his ways around the wand just yet.

Cedric was definitely just around in his Early twenties in the first movie. Being fresh out of the Academy to replace his Father Goodwyn and all

[nox-in-a-box]

(Genuine question because I am not sure how this works) How is it not canon? What makes information canon even?

[sweetmariihs2]

Incorrect information. No one ever said he was fresh out of Hexley hall.

Actually, in a tweet one of the creators informed he was in his late 30s. I can't find this tweet right now but I know that other people also remember it's existence, maybe @shychick-52 can find it for me since she always knows these things 😭

(Found this on a roleplay website I believe)

All that Cedric said was that he studied for 15 years (if i'm not mistaken it happened during the royal sleepover episode), not that this happened yesterday.

Someone can study for 15 years and some years later still tell people they studied for 15 years. Because it was a period of their life, not that this happened recently or anything.

Source: Disney Wiki (but you don't really need a source just watch the episodes)

But yeah that theory about Cedric being in his early 20s is wrong, because this has no background that can prove it to be true. Actually, there is more evidence hinting about him being in his late 30s and this theory is just confusing everything.

Roland himself is an adult and him and Cedric were almost the same age, they grew up together. If Roland was in his mid/early 30s he and Queen Lorelei would be expecting children in their teens. So weird!

[agentswibble]

All you mentioned are nothing but fanmade info. And Craig is just the producer of the show. The ones who created the lore is the of board of writers who actually study and construct proper continuities from once upon a princess to Forever Royal

Cedric entered Hexley Hall at such a young age and studied 15 years there. That only means he was in his early twenties when he graduated. And if you have watched the show, it is very implied that he is very incompetent at his work and needs supervision from his parents (the painting on his workshop). He was definitely a new hire rookie Royal Sorcerer to replace his Father and had to leave Hexley Hall Early

Not to mention he acts nervous around King Roland (his boss) which is actually a real phenomenon called the new job anxiety. Google it.

Since you mentioned ages, I hope you know royals marry early. And since James and Amber are still kids, that only means Roland is definitely still in his early thirties in the first movie. And since Cedric is a lot younger than him, he definitely is still in his twenties. In the flashbacks, u could tell the age gap when Roland looks like a whole teenager and Cedric still has his baby cheeks

I study this lore like it's my profession. And no matter how you put it, Cedric being in his mid thirties doesn't make sense. Craig stating this was based on his pitch bible that is NOT canon at all. His parents being named something else should already tell u that his pitch bible was not meant to be used as canon reference

[sweetmariihs2]

I thought we all already knew that Cedric messes up because he gets nervous, it's, like, fundamental to his role in the show. And when Roland talks about Cedric in the pilot, he shows that he's used to dealing with Cedric's failures and is disappointed by it. No one ever mentioned Cedric having just taken up the role of sorcerer except the fandom itself. On the contrary, some people involved in STF confirmed him being in his late 30s. You "studying lore" doesn’t take away the words of those involved in creating the show. I asked my friend @shychick-52 to send us the tweet and she did! Thank you <3

Cedric seems very used to (and tired of) that life, and if he was so motivated about getting revenge and taking over the throne, it shows that he's been putting up with everyone's shit for a while.

Actually, in Once Upon a Princess, right after he see's Sofia's amulet for the first time and runs to his workshop to scheme he says something like "After all these years I can't believe that the Amulet Of Avalor was right under my nose!" (I'm saying this based on the Brazillian Portuguese dub that I have, I don't have any access to the movie in English)

Could this mean he had been thinking about the amulet since he was young and his father was the Royal Sorcerer? Yes. But at least we know he's been bitter for a while.

There is no evidence of Cedric being in his early 20s inside the show besides the fandom's headcanons, but we have two different official sources saying he was in his late 30s/37, which is not a definitive answer because it wasn't inside the show, but it's something. "But I'm a fan and I don't think he is because it doesn't make sense" it's your word agaist Craig's

And tell me what world do you live in to believe that Disney in 2014 would make teenagers get married and have children?!?? The old Disney princesses are a different case because they are from the 1900s

This doesn't make sense at all because Sofia The First breaks some royal rules, such as the rule that the eldest child takes the throne and not exclusively the son. Everybody knows that people choose the next ruler based on who's the oldest son, and yet Amber is the next queen. And I don't know if teenagers marrying and having children would be accepted in a toddler's show

[agentswibble]

We literally just found out that age came from his pitch bible which pretty means an information not canon to the story. The board of writers had changed a lot from his pitch bible, no doubt they would also change his age to fit with his circumstances shown in the show itself

Cedric's parents names in the actual show are GOODWIN AND WINIFRED not Mandrake and Hazel written in the pitch bible. And they are ALIVE. This alone should already tell you that pitch bible of his is not a reliable source of canon information when it can barely give factual information that connects to the actual show's lore

[ihatesilco]

tell me you’re unemployed without telling me you’re unemployed

[agentswibble]

Your response is not needed in this. If you have nothing to add, please kindly mind your own business. Insulting a 15 year old's lifestyle choices is irrelevant to the topic itself. Unless you can provide anything to the conversation, leave me alone. Thank you.

[agentswibble]

I read the pitch Bible (which is pretty much like the concept lore of the show) and when I read Cedric's parents being named something else, I knew this was all just Craig's headcanon

And knowing Craig's age for Cedric came from his pitch bible only proves my point that age is definitely not canon

The Board of Writers definitely made him younger so they can have an excuse for him being a "Fresh-out-of-Hexley-Hall" replacement for his father who doesnt know his ways around the wand just yet.

Cedric was definitely just around in his Early twenties in the first movie. Being fresh out of the Academy to replace his Father Goodwyn and all

[nox-in-a-box]

(Genuine question because I am not sure how this works) How is it not canon? What makes information canon even?

[sweetmariihs2]

Incorrect information. No one ever said he was fresh out of Hexley hall.

Actually, in a tweet one of the creators informed he was in his late 30s. I can't find this tweet right now but I know that other people also remember it's existence, maybe @shychick-52 can find it for me since she always knows these things 😭

(Found this on a roleplay website I believe)

All that Cedric said was that he studied for 15 years (if i'm not mistaken it happened during the royal sleepover episode), not that this happened yesterday.

Someone can study for 15 years and some years later still tell people they studied for 15 years. Because it was a period of their life, not that this happened recently or anything.

Source: Disney Wiki (but you don't really need a source just watch the episodes)

But yeah that theory about Cedric being in his early 20s is wrong, because this has no background that can prove it to be true. Actually, there is more evidence hinting about him being in his late 30s and this theory is just confusing everything.

Roland himself is an adult and him and Cedric were almost the same age, they grew up together. If Roland was in his mid/early 30s he and Queen Lorelei would be expecting children in their teens. So weird!

[agentswibble]

All you mentioned are nothing but fanmade info. And Craig is just the producer of the show. The ones who created the lore is the of board of writers who actually study and construct proper continuities from once upon a princess to Forever Royal

Cedric entered Hexley Hall at such a young age and studied 15 years there. That only means he was in his early twenties when he graduated. And if you have watched the show, it is very implied that he is very incompetent at his work and needs supervision from his parents (the painting on his workshop). He was definitely a new hire rookie Royal Sorcerer to replace his Father and had to leave Hexley Hall Early

Not to mention he acts nervous around King Roland (his boss) which is actually a real phenomenon called the new job anxiety. Google it.

Since you mentioned ages, I hope you know royals marry early. And since James and Amber are still kids, that only means Roland is definitely still in his early thirties in the first movie. And since Cedric is a lot younger than him, he definitely is still in his twenties. In the flashbacks, u could tell the age gap when Roland looks like a whole teenager and Cedric still has his baby cheeks

I study this lore like it's my profession. And no matter how you put it, Cedric being in his mid thirties doesn't make sense. Craig stating this was based on his pitch bible that is NOT canon at all. His parents being named something else should already tell u that his pitch bible was not meant to be used as canon reference

[sweetmariihs2]

I thought we all already knew that Cedric messes up because he gets nervous, it's, like, fundamental to his role in the show. And when Roland talks about Cedric in the pilot, he shows that he's used to dealing with Cedric's failures and is disappointed by it. No one ever mentioned Cedric having just taken up the role of sorcerer except the fandom itself. On the contrary, some people involved in STF confirmed him being in his late 30s. You "studying lore" doesn’t take away the words of those involved in creating the show. I asked my friend @shychick-52 to send us the tweet and she did! Thank you <3

Cedric seems very used to (and tired of) that life, and if he was so motivated about getting revenge and taking over the throne, it shows that he's been putting up with everyone's shit for a while.

Actually, in Once Upon a Princess, right after he see's Sofia's amulet for the first time and runs to his workshop to scheme he says something like "After all these years I can't believe that the Amulet Of Avalor was right under my nose!" (I'm saying this based on the Brazillian Portuguese dub that I have, I don't have any access to the movie in English)

Could this mean he had been thinking about the amulet since he was young and his father was the Royal Sorcerer? Yes. But at least we know he's been bitter for a while.

There is no evidence of Cedric being in his early 20s inside the show besides the fandom's headcanons, but we have two different official sources saying he was in his late 30s/37, which is not a definitive answer because it wasn't inside the show, but it's something. "But I'm a fan and I don't think he is because it doesn't make sense" it's your word agaist Craig's

And tell me what world do you live in to believe that Disney in 2014 would make teenagers get married and have children?!?? The old Disney princesses are a different case because they are from the 1900s

This doesn't make sense at all because Sofia The First breaks some royal rules, such as the rule that the eldest child takes the throne and not exclusively the son. Everybody knows that people choose the next ruler based on who's the oldest son, and yet Amber is the next queen. And I don't know if teenagers marrying and having children would be accepted in a toddler's show

[agentswibble]

We literally just found out that age came from his pitch bible which pretty means an information not canon to the story. The board of writers had changed a lot from his pitch bible, no doubt they would also change his age to fit with his circumstances shown in the show itself

Cedric's parents names in the actual show are GOODWIN AND WINIFRED not Mandrake and Hazel written in the pitch bible. And they are ALIVE. This alone should already tell you that pitch bible of his is not a reliable source of canon information when it can barely give factual information that connects to the actual show's lore

[sweetmariihs2]

But craig told us so 😶

Did anyone ever mentioned that he was in his early 20s?

[agentswibble]

I literally stated a whole throurough thread on why his words doesn't equate to canon in the series. I honestly don't know what part you can't understand. I've stated evidences and hints that Cedric is indeed in a certain age bracket yet you still insist on a headcanon age..

[agentswibble]

I read the pitch Bible (which is pretty much like the concept lore of the show) and when I read Cedric's parents being named something else, I knew this was all just Craig's headcanon

And knowing Craig's age for Cedric came from his pitch bible only proves my point that age is definitely not canon

The Board of Writers definitely made him younger so they can have an excuse for him being a "Fresh-out-of-Hexley-Hall" replacement for his father who doesnt know his ways around the wand just yet.

Cedric was definitely just around in his Early twenties in the first movie. Being fresh out of the Academy to replace his Father Goodwyn and all

[nox-in-a-box]

(Genuine question because I am not sure how this works) How is it not canon? What makes information canon even?

[sweetmariihs2]

Incorrect information. No one ever said he was fresh out of Hexley hall.

Actually, in a tweet one of the creators informed he was in his late 30s. I can't find this tweet right now but I know that other people also remember it's existence, maybe @shychick-52 can find it for me since she always knows these things 😭

(Found this on a roleplay website I believe)

All that Cedric said was that he studied for 15 years (if i'm not mistaken it happened during the royal sleepover episode), not that this happened yesterday.

Someone can study for 15 years and some years later still tell people they studied for 15 years. Because it was a period of their life, not that this happened recently or anything.

Source: Disney Wiki (but you don't really need a source just watch the episodes)

But yeah that theory about Cedric being in his early 20s is wrong, because this has no background that can prove it to be true. Actually, there is more evidence hinting about him being in his late 30s and this theory is just confusing everything.

Roland himself is an adult and him and Cedric were almost the same age, they grew up together. If Roland was in his mid/early 30s he and Queen Lorelei would be expecting children in their teens. So weird!

[agentswibble]

All you mentioned are nothing but fanmade info. And Craig is just the producer of the show. The ones who created the lore is the of board of writers who actually study and construct proper continuities from once upon a princess to Forever Royal

Cedric entered Hexley Hall at such a young age and studied 15 years there. That only means he was in his early twenties when he graduated. And if you have watched the show, it is very implied that he is very incompetent at his work and needs supervision from his parents (the painting on his workshop). He was definitely a new hire rookie Royal Sorcerer to replace his Father and had to leave Hexley Hall Early

Not to mention he acts nervous around King Roland (his boss) which is actually a real phenomenon called the new job anxiety. Google it.

Since you mentioned ages, I hope you know royals marry early. And since James and Amber are still kids, that only means Roland is definitely still in his early thirties in the first movie. And since Cedric is a lot younger than him, he definitely is still in his twenties. In the flashbacks, u could tell the age gap when Roland looks like a whole teenager and Cedric still has his baby cheeks

I study this lore like it's my profession. And no matter how you put it, Cedric being in his mid thirties doesn't make sense. Craig stating this was based on his pitch bible that is NOT canon at all. His parents being named something else should already tell u that his pitch bible was not meant to be used as canon reference

[sweetmariihs2]

I thought we all already knew that Cedric messes up because he gets nervous, it's, like, fundamental to his role in the show. And when Roland talks about Cedric in the pilot, he shows that he's used to dealing with Cedric's failures and is disappointed by it. No one ever mentioned Cedric having just taken up the role of sorcerer except the fandom itself. On the contrary, some people involved in STF confirmed him being in his late 30s. You "studying lore" doesn’t take away the words of those involved in creating the show. I asked my friend @shychick-52 to send us the tweet and she did! Thank you <3

Cedric seems very used to (and tired of) that life, and if he was so motivated about getting revenge and taking over the throne, it shows that he's been putting up with everyone's shit for a while.

Actually, in Once Upon a Princess, right after he see's Sofia's amulet for the first time and runs to his workshop to scheme he says something like "After all these years I can't believe that the Amulet Of Avalor was right under my nose!" (I'm saying this based on the Brazillian Portuguese dub that I have, I don't have any access to the movie in English)

Could this mean he had been thinking about the amulet since he was young and his father was the Royal Sorcerer? Yes. But at least we know he's been bitter for a while.

There is no evidence of Cedric being in his early 20s inside the show besides the fandom's headcanons, but we have two different official sources saying he was in his late 30s/37, which is not a definitive answer because it wasn't inside the show, but it's something. "But I'm a fan and I don't think he is because it doesn't make sense" it's your word agaist Craig's

And tell me what world do you live in to believe that Disney in 2014 would make teenagers get married and have children?!?? The old Disney princesses are a different case because they are from the 1900s

This doesn't make sense at all because Sofia The First breaks some royal rules, such as the rule that the eldest child takes the throne and not exclusively the son. Everybody knows that people choose the next ruler based on who's the oldest son, and yet Amber is the next queen. And I don't know if teenagers marrying and having children would be accepted in a toddler's show

[agentswibble]

We literally just found out that age came from his pitch bible which pretty means an information not canon to the story. The board of writers had changed a lot from his pitch bible, no doubt they would also change his age to fit with his circumstances shown in the show itself

Cedric's parents names in the actual show are GOODWIN AND WINIFRED not Mandrake and Hazel written in the pitch bible. And they are ALIVE. This alone should already tell you that pitch bible of his is not a reliable source of canon information when it can barely give factual information that connects to the actual show's lore

[agentswibble]

I read the pitch Bible (which is pretty much like the concept lore of the show) and when I read Cedric's parents being named something else, I knew this was all just Craig's headcanon

And knowing Craig's age for Cedric came from his pitch bible only proves my point that age is definitely not canon

The Board of Writers definitely made him younger so they can have an excuse for him being a "Fresh-out-of-Hexley-Hall" replacement for his father who doesnt know his ways around the wand just yet.

Cedric was definitely just around in his Early twenties in the first movie. Being fresh out of the Academy to replace his Father Goodwyn and all

[nox-in-a-box]

(Genuine question because I am not sure how this works) How is it not canon? What makes information canon even?

[sweetmariihs2]

Incorrect information. No one ever said he was fresh out of Hexley hall.

Actually, in a tweet one of the creators informed he was in his late 30s. I can't find this tweet right now but I know that other people also remember it's existence, maybe @shychick-52 can find it for me since she always knows these things 😭

(Found this on a roleplay website I believe)

All that Cedric said was that he studied for 15 years (if i'm not mistaken it happened during the royal sleepover episode), not that this happened yesterday.

Someone can study for 15 years and some years later still tell people they studied for 15 years. Because it was a period of their life, not that this happened recently or anything.

Source: Disney Wiki (but you don't really need a source just watch the episodes)

But yeah that theory about Cedric being in his early 20s is wrong, because this has no background that can prove it to be true. Actually, there is more evidence hinting about him being in his late 30s and this theory is just confusing everything.

Roland himself is an adult and him and Cedric were almost the same age, they grew up together. If Roland was in his mid/early 30s he and Queen Lorelei would be expecting children in their teens. So weird!

[agentswibble]

All you mentioned are nothing but fanmade info. And Craig is just the producer of the show. The ones who created the lore is the of board of writers who actually study and construct proper continuities from once upon a princess to Forever Royal

Cedric entered Hexley Hall at such a young age and studied 15 years there. That only means he was in his early twenties when he graduated. And if you have watched the show, it is very implied that he is very incompetent at his work and needs supervision from his parents (the painting on his workshop). He was definitely a new hire rookie Royal Sorcerer to replace his Father and had to leave Hexley Hall Early

Not to mention he acts nervous around King Roland (his boss) which is actually a real phenomenon called the new job anxiety. Google it.

Since you mentioned ages, I hope you know royals marry early. And since James and Amber are still kids, that only means Roland is definitely still in his early thirties in the first movie. And since Cedric is a lot younger than him, he definitely is still in his twenties. In the flashbacks, u could tell the age gap when Roland looks like a whole teenager and Cedric still has his baby cheeks

I study this lore like it's my profession. And no matter how you put it, Cedric being in his mid thirties doesn't make sense. Craig stating this was based on his pitch bible that is NOT canon at all. His parents being named something else should already tell u that his pitch bible was not meant to be used as canon reference

[sweetmariihs2]

I thought we all already knew that Cedric messes up because he gets nervous, it's, like, fundamental to his role in the show. And when Roland talks about Cedric in the pilot, he shows that he's used to dealing with Cedric's failures and is disappointed by it. No one ever mentioned Cedric having just taken up the role of sorcerer except the fandom itself. On the contrary, some people involved in STF confirmed him being in his late 30s. You "studying lore" doesn’t take away the words of those involved in creating the show. I asked my friend @shychick-52 to send us the tweet and she did! Thank you <3

Cedric seems very used to (and tired of) that life, and if he was so motivated about getting revenge and taking over the throne, it shows that he's been putting up with everyone's shit for a while.

Actually, in Once Upon a Princess, right after he see's Sofia's amulet for the first time and runs to his workshop to scheme he says something like "After all these years I can't believe that the Amulet Of Avalor was right under my nose!" (I'm saying this based on the Brazillian Portuguese dub that I have, I don't have any access to the movie in English)

Could this mean he had been thinking about the amulet since he was young and his father was the Royal Sorcerer? Yes. But at least we know he's been bitter for a while.

There is no evidence of Cedric being in his early 20s inside the show besides the fandom's headcanons, but we have two different official sources saying he was in his late 30s/37, which is not a definitive answer because it wasn't inside the show, but it's something. "But I'm a fan and I don't think he is because it doesn't make sense" it's your word agaist Craig's

And tell me what world do you live in to believe that Disney in 2014 would make teenagers get married and have children?!?? The old Disney princesses are a different case because they are from the 1900s

This doesn't make sense at all because Sofia The First breaks some royal rules, such as the rule that the eldest child takes the throne and not exclusively the son. Everybody knows that people choose the next ruler based on who's the oldest son, and yet Amber is the next queen. And I don't know if teenagers marrying and having children would be accepted in a toddler's show

[agentswibble]

Alright, I will debunk all the things that u said.

1. Cedric is only nervous around Roland but is an exceptional good sorcerer. Even Sofia recognizes this. The whole thing with him is because of his nervousness with his boss - the king, not because he's a terrible Sorcerer

2. In that show specifically, Roland said "we're stuck with him" meaning he's not used to Cedric being the Royal Sorcerer yet. Roland and his family still hasn't been used to a new Royal Sorcerer knowing Goodwyn was the greatest so it would make sense why they are having a trouble time adjusting. I remember the lines and scenes well, you literally can't use details against my points. Watch the movie again and state if I got anything wrong because I didn't.

3. The fandoms opinions are irrelevant to the lore because they have nothing to do with how the show was made and constructed. These are opinions and headcanons of people. Show me a passage or a quote directly from the board of writers themselves that is emphasizes in the show itself and that would be considered canon.

4. Cedric has been plotting his evil ways since he was a kid (see the song my evil dreams) and he already had been knowing about the Amulet of Avalor by then. Don't forget he knew that from a spellbook itself. Cedric has been longing to seek revenge ever since he was a boy, and it would make sense knowing he would be in his twenties by then when he met Sofia

5. Royals being wedded at a young age is a universal truth and a custom, and if it isn't in the stf verse - then why is that Amber and James are still pretty young?? If Roland is in his 40s, they would atleast be teenagers by then

Roland being wedded at 18-20 would make sense and his wife's tragedy would occur by then. James and Amber would be born.

That would make Roland in his thirties. And I have more evidences of this. He looks fairly young in his design and in one of the episodes, he was referred to as "looks young for a king"

I know every nook and cranny of this show and I have all the receipts to prove so. Cedric being in his twenties would make perfect sense in the lore and if you actually take time and try to comprehend the points I've made - then you would think so too.

[agentswibble]

I read the pitch Bible (which is pretty much like the concept lore of the show) and when I read Cedric's parents being named something else, I knew this was all just Craig's headcanon

And knowing Craig's age for Cedric came from his pitch bible only proves my point that age is definitely not canon

The Board of Writers definitely made him younger so they can have an excuse for him being a "Fresh-out-of-Hexley-Hall" replacement for his father who doesnt know his ways around the wand just yet.

Cedric was definitely just around in his Early twenties in the first movie. Being fresh out of the Academy to replace his Father Goodwyn and all

[nox-in-a-box]

(Genuine question because I am not sure how this works) How is it not canon? What makes information canon even?

[agentswibble]

Anything that actually is presented in the show itself. His pitch bible cannot be canon because there are information there that contradicts what is presented in the lore such as Cedric's parents being dead and their names being different

[agentswibble]

I read the pitch Bible (which is pretty much like the concept lore of the show) and when I read Cedric's parents being named something else, I knew this was all just Craig's headcanon

And knowing Craig's age for Cedric came from his pitch bible only proves my point that age is definitely not canon

The Board of Writers definitely made him younger so they can have an excuse for him being a "Fresh-out-of-Hexley-Hall" replacement for his father who doesnt know his ways around the wand just yet.

Cedric was definitely just around in his Early twenties in the first movie. Being fresh out of the Academy to replace his Father Goodwyn and all

[nox-in-a-box]

(Genuine question because I am not sure how this works) How is it not canon? What makes information canon even?

[sweetmariihs2]

Incorrect information. No one ever said he was fresh out of Hexley hall.

Actually, in a tweet one of the creators informed he was in his late 30s. I can't find this tweet right now but I know that other people also remember it's existence, maybe @shychick-52 can find it for me since she always knows these things 😭

(Found this on a roleplay website I believe)

All that Cedric said was that he studied for 15 years (if i'm not mistaken it happened during the royal sleepover episode), not that this happened yesterday.

Someone can study for 15 years and some years later still tell people they studied for 15 years. Because it was a period of their life, not that this happened recently or anything.

Source: Disney Wiki (but you don't really need a source just watch the episodes)

But yeah that theory about Cedric being in his early 20s is wrong, because this has no background that can prove it to be true. Actually, there is more evidence hinting about him being in his late 30s and this theory is just confusing everything.

Roland himself is an adult and him and Cedric were almost the same age, they grew up together. If Roland was in his mid/early 30s he and Queen Lorelei would be expecting children in their teens. So weird!

[shychick-52]

Thanks for tagging me, @sweetmariihs2!

Here is the tweet!

Yeah, I also totally disagree that Cedric was in his twenties and fresh out of school and new in his role as Royal Sorcerer! I think a couple things from Once Upon a Princess likely gave that misunderstanding- (1) when Cedric said in the beginning that he was breaking in his new wand after botching a spell (but it was just a new wand, I don't think there's anything more to read into there) and (2) when Cedric invited Sofia for a tour of his workshop, telling her not even the king has seen it (Cedric was trying to lure Sofia to his workshop to get her amulet, so that was probably just one of many of the lies he would tell her).

[agentswibble]

Again, that tweet was based on his pitch bible which is already proven not canon based on how wrong Cedric's parents' names are. The real canon material in the show is discussed in the board of writers who actually made the lore themselves.