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AHHHHH THIS WAS THE DRAWING A FRIEND MADE FOR ME 😭🙏💔
I LOVE ALOISCIEL CIELOIS IN MY VEINS IN MY SOUL It's BEAUTIFUL, YAY! A ROUND OF APPLAUSE FOR THIS COUPLE WHO ARE IN LOVE! YES! AHHH KYAAAAAAAAAAAAA VIVAAAAAAA. I DON'T GIVE A DAMN IF IT'S NOT A THOUSAND TIMES BETTER THAN SEBACIEL'S BLOWJOB HAHA ...
This is "strawberry princess," a veteran fan who does nothing but spread misinformation and hoard morbidity.
For some time now, I have been observing her content and her videos with precise attention. She claims to be someone who hates Sebasciel and supports Cielsullivan, and hey, not bad—Sebasciel is a pretty twisted and questionable ship. However, it seems highly hypocritical of her to throw hate at one ship while supporting another that is almost identical to it, like Cielsullivan. I perfectly understand your point of view and what you are trying to say; Sebasciel is a very morbid ship since the dynamic is between a demon born from the most unprecedented abyss of sin and a child whose life was snatched away in the blink of an eye, in just one day. That point is understandable. What I don’t understand is how you usually hate that kind of dynamic, yet you support a girl who—even if she was "innocent" about it—touched Ciel's private parts without his consent, invading his space and making him uncomfortable.
It seems ironic to me that you defend to the death your hatred for all questionable Kuroshitsuji ships, but then you support one where Ciel was sexually assaulted without his permission, even if it was framed as a joke. Your double standards are fascinating, as is how you use them to "defend" yourself and act like a "know-it-all" when you just criticize what an average fan would say, without actually deepening or showing any real, profound knowledge about it. It is completely stupid that you keep complaining about the same thing when there are so many things to dissect in the narrative of Kuroshitsuji. You claim to be a veteran fan of the fandom and you emphasize it every time someone thinks differently from you. I don't see the point in pretending to be something you're not when you aren't even capable of understanding the cult plot at a deep, analytical level, where right from the very first point and the very beginning, it's clear what happened in the arc of Ciel's past. Instead, you decide to sell the story in a morbid and aberrant way, saying, "Ciel was abused by 100 men in 47 days." Are you serious, strawberry? Is that your grand knowledge of the Kuroshitsuji fandom? Well, then we are in a terrible place as readers and in reading comprehension. Not only does your explanation lack logic, but it also lacks immediate common sense and shows a massive disconnection from the extreme psychosis of Ciel Phantomhive. You not only misinform, but you also stain the work with your dirty, disastrous, and sickening logic.
Ciel was abused for 47 days? 100 men? Good God, strawberry, where is your brain? I see you don't understand the narrative or the way Yana Toboso illustrates. It is an absolute embarrassment that you are the one representing us in the fandom, giving those kinds of explanations and conclusions that completely lack coherence. Within your narrative logic, how can a 100-year-old child—sorry, a 10-year-old child—survive systematic sexual abuse for 47 days straight if he suffers from fatal asthma? I think that is a detail you haven't studied or that you forgot when you wrote that aberration of an answer. In a medical analysis, a 10-year-old child suffering from extreme asthma wouldn't even be able to survive a single (complete) sexual abuse because he would die within three days or the very next. I won't deny that Ciel Phantomhive went through sexual abuse, but it wasn't in that disgusting and disastrous way you paint it. Your way of alluding to and exaggerating the situation is just to make it bigger and generate morbidity, because that's the only thing you're looking for by making those unnecessary videos and those stupid replies you wrote in your own comments. It’s incredible how you write without using your mind or your logic, which it seems you don't possess. I don't know what your need or obsession is, because I see that your way of hyping and defending your opinions and theories is almost noisy, and the way you forget the existence of Ciel's older brother is pretty decadent. You minimize what he did just to shove Ciel into that inconclusive bag you call an "opinion."
We are told from the beginning why Ciel survived and why he has survivor's guilt: it was because Rciel was his human shield during that month, which is what allows him now to walk, to be independent of his own body, his life, his decisions, and his goals. Ciel didn't survive because Sebastian saved him; he survived because from the very first moment, Rciel drew the cult's attention so they wouldn't do the same to his brother. From the first moment the cult touched them, their target was Rciel because he was the healthy twin, the heir to the Phantomhive fortune, the perfect son of the family, the firstborn. Tragically, he was their target from day one, when a series of abuses against him began, while Ociel was left as the spare, or the cult's second option if the ritual didn't work. They unleashed most of their perversions on Rciel, and though Ciel was taken out of the cage sometimes, he was only beaten, sometimes touched, branded with a hot iron, and treated like an animal. In almost every panel involving the cult, we only see Rciel always being the target, absorbing the majority of everything that happened during that month... which is what allowed Ciel to get out of the cage and make a contract with Sebastian after his death.
On that final day, Rciel was in a state of near-death. The abuse was not symmetrical; it was asymmetrical, which explains the dynamic. If both had suffered the same systematic depravity and abuse, they would both be dead—or rather, Ociel would have died before Rciel because, I repeat, he suffered from asthma. If you don't know the way Yana Toboso works with subtle meanings, then this work is not for you, because you are only damaging it with your repulsive and unrealistic misinformation, selling nothing but morbidity instead of the logic, the essence of the plot, and how deep and psychological Kuroshitsuji really is—a narrative that proved to be too big for you. You claim to be an old fan, but you look like an average fan who thinks they know everything just because they read the manga; your content is pure superficiality. If people like you are in the Kuroshitsuji fandom, we will remain in cognitive and mental decadence forever.
And here is a truly fascinating question that perfectly proves you didn't understand Ciel Phantomhive, nor did you try to analyze him: Why would Ciel cling with such desperation to someone who is trapped just like him, if both are equally broken? It’s a question you will surely answer lightly, just like the response you gave in that 2023 comment. But if one prisoner told the other that he was going to save him and get him out of there, yet both are stuck in the same cell behind the same bars, it would be completely illogical to say something like that, wouldn't it? When you know that, just like him, you are lost and there is total symmetry in it. However, if we talk about this from the perspective of the twins, it changes radically. The level of abuse was differential and completely asymmetrical. What's silly here is that nobody in the fandom, including you, understands it. Ciel survived the cult because his brother protected him as much as he could, which allows him to be alive today. Even getting out of there alive was a stroke of luck for him, though of course, the exit was the contract with Sebastian that would chain him to another kind of cage, albeit an elegant one. If they were supposedly treated the same way, then why did Ciel, even at the end, keep clinging to his brother for a freedom where they were both going to get out, if he had supposedly been "raped by 100 men" according to you? He wouldn't have even endured 40 days; he would have died by day 3. He hadn't lost everything; he still had innocence, he still cried, and that is proof that he was still human.
If Rciel had survived and both had escaped that cult, Ciel would have become Rciel's protector, because Rciel would have unfortunately ended up bedridden, and the plot would have been much darker and more suffocating. Ciel would have had to become his human shield now to protect him from everything, just as Rciel did for him in the cult. And even if it sounds like a: "even if I'm broken inside, I will keep clinging to you because I see you as my only salvation even if you are just like me"—it might sound precise and painful, but in this plot and in what happened in the cult, that is not the case. Ciel still believed they could get out; he still had guts; he wasn't completely broken yet. He would have protected his brother if both had escaped from there from the very first moment. His brother protected him from being completely destroyed, and that is the reason why when he saw him die and Sebastian took Rciel's soul, Ciel truly lost everything. That was when he lost his other half, his brother, what remained of his life, his twin, his other self... and in that, he lost himself too. It wasn't something expected, but something he assimilated himself so he wouldn't shatter, hiding it behind layers of arrogance and revenge. He owes his life and his existence to his brother, and that's why he isn't happy. Because even if he says the revenge is for his family and his last name, it is actually for his brother. He wants to fulfill a role or finish a story his brother should have finished, and he is doing it for him because he believes Rciel would have done it, but didn't because of his fault. So, it was a form of self-punishment, because he is just imitating someone who already died. If he stops acting, he will go back to being that weak twin who couldn't do anything on his own while his brother was being abused, and he becomes that child in the cage again who failed to protect anyone because he was weak.
It is tragic how there are so many things to tell, yet you get stuck in disgusting morbidity where our series is left looking very bad. Good afternoon. Regards—though not such good regards if you don't understand the irony in them.
Another fan selling sensationalism She is Strawberry Princess, you can find her on TikTok and see the video I'm talking about. The conversation was in Spanish, but here is the translation, and please give your opinions on it.
The most idiotic thing they could do is hate Rciel after his return or insult him; from the beginning it's understandable because he came into Ociel's life with the sole purpose of wasting What he built, but we must remember that he didn't even have his own will in death because he wasn't respected in the way he deserved. It's stupid to criticize and hate him afterward.After reading the whole plot about the cult where he was practically Ociel's human shield and is the reason Ociel is still breathing, even with asthma... hating him afterward is the worst thing you could do.If we find out what really happened, but I don't see any criticism of Undertaker when he's the cause of EVERYTHING, he's the one pulling the strings, he's the one controlling Rciel, he's the one who took over the body. He was abused to death and spent three years building it, and yet they still decide to go against Rciel when all we have in the manga is a pretty intelligent bizarre doll. And especially since it's all driven by Undertaker, I don't see any hateful comments towards him even though he's the one who caused it all. I don't hate Undertaker at all; he's a good character, but I find him totally hypocritical. And it's awful that they want to express dislike towards Rciel when literally the creator of all that misfortune was Undertaker. Rciel was Ociel's human shield in the truest sense and is totally imbecilic.That they want to mess with him and pick apart the loose ends even after knowing the whole context, anyway..."kurofans"
Every time I draw Ciel in mimosa i'm going to make the hat even bigger I don't care
I got a few requests so here’s an Alois! Might as well post him somewhere lol
Here I'll leave my brief analysis of what really happened in the cult...and what happened to the twins. During my time following the story of Kuroshitsuji, I've noticed that no one has truly understood what happened in the cult chapter. Ciel's past has been revealed and explained in various ways. Neither the panels nor the manga have tried to convey anything through the twins' story, even though it's been 9 years since we learned about Ociel's past! Nobody really understands it. Or she has analyzed it in a detailed, raw way; Yana Toboso usually works and moves through symbolic scenes, metaphors, that make the audience understand what happened during all that Mes, despite everything, there is still much to be done by the narrative and logical thinking of others, but I have seen deplorable, morbid theories and descriptions. Lacking all ethics and human logic, we all, from one moment to the next, let ourselves be guided by... "The twins were abused and hurt in the same way; they were victims of all kinds of mistreatment, and Ociel suffered more than Rciel!"But did they really suffer in the same way?Never. Why do you think Ociel is alive? Because Sebastian saved him? HAHAHA, Rciel was Ociel's human shield who at least prevented him from suffering the same physical abuse that he himself abused.It is presented to us from the beginning vom How a weak, asthmatic child needs care...If he had suffered the magnitude of abuse you describe, he wouldn't have lasted a month; he would have died within three days due to his asthma. A 10-year-old child is incapable of enduring daily abuse.Without remaining in a pre-death state, or in the case of him having died within days, and Rciel being the one who would have remained alive at least for those days, Rciel from the beginning attracted the unfortunate attention From the captors from day one... as such
Although in the end on the day of the "invocation" much"But both twins look the same." No, they look the same and they didn't have the same physical capabilities. I repeat (Yana Toboso uses symbolism) not graphic cruelty. As the author, she's not going to...Rciel is in a deplorable and disturbing state to behold because her manga and narrative are classified as "shonen" and published in G-Fantasy magazine, therefore she wasn't going to show it in a brutal way.And the realistic state of the twins is frivolous, much less that of RCiel.But you only have to pay attention to the twins' expressions and attitudes during those days to really observe and analyze who was completely broken, and that was Rciel, Ociel, despite being in a brutally traumatic state, his emotions were still those of a child who was still afraid, who still at least felt that he could escape with his brother, who still His emotions were real, and that's the most telling point of all...It marks a gap between someone who was still afraid and someone who no longer felt anything... Rciel's state is a total pre-death; he is trying to at least remain emotionally stable for his brother, but We only need to look at the smallest details, even the most unnecessary ones, which define who was the human shield for whom during that dark month.
Below I will leave you a report of what really happened in the sect And what is truly real and certain in the Kuroshitsuji manga, is how they suffered and what they endured.File 1:
OCiel Phantomhive
Here I'll leave my brief analysis of what really happened in the cult...and what happened to the twins.
-Constant physical abuse
-(SA) (lewd touching) no (only that)
(SA) Completely, because he wouldn't have survived a day...or a month
-Extreme captivity
-Cult mark
-Malnutrition
-Extreme psychological trauma
-Physically unharmed, could walk, move, run...?
Yes.
He could run, leave
Sit down
Yes
Rciel
Short captivity
Were they always taking him out?
Abuse (SA) (constant, daily)
(Constant, repetitive, extreme physical abuse)
(Was he taken to noblemen's rooms?...)
Complete SA abuse: physical, daily, humiliation, depravity, victim of fetishism.
Marks all over his body...
(Irreversible damage to his body, legs, arms; physical immobility; immediate and prolonged prostration)
Victim of intermittent genocide
All of the above...
Did he appear unharmed?
Couldn't walk...couldn't move, couldn't run?
Couldn't move?
He wasn't in the same condition as Ociel.
He would have ended up bedridden, and Ociel would have saved him.
Here I'll leave my brief analysis of what really happened in the cult...and what happened to the twins. During my time following the story of Kuroshitsuji, I've noticed that no one has truly understood what happened in the cult chapter. Ciel's past has been revealed and explained in various ways. Neither the panels nor the manga have tried to convey anything through the twins' story, even though it's been 9 years since we learned about Ociel's past! Nobody really understands it. Or she has analyzed it in a detailed, raw way; Yana Toboso usually works and moves through symbolic scenes, metaphors, that make the audience understand what happened during all that Mes, despite everything, there is still much to be done by the narrative and logical thinking of others, but I have seen deplorable, morbid theories and descriptions. Lacking all ethics and human logic, we all, from one moment to the next, let ourselves be guided by... "The twins were abused and hurt in the same way; they were victims of all kinds of mistreatment, and Ociel suffered more than Rciel!"But did they really suffer in the same way?Never. Why do you think Ociel is alive? Because Sebastian saved him? HAHAHA, Rciel was Ociel's human shield who at least prevented him from suffering the same physical abuse that he himself abused.It is presented to us from the beginning vom How a weak, asthmatic child needs care...If he had suffered the magnitude of abuse you describe, he wouldn't have lasted a month; he would have died within three days due to his asthma. A 10-year-old child is incapable of enduring daily abuse.Without remaining in a pre-death state, or in the case of him having died within days, and Rciel being the one who would have remained alive at least for those days, Rciel from the beginning attracted the unfortunate attention From the captors from day one... as such
Although in the end on the day of the "invocation" much"But both twins look the same." No, they look the same and they didn't have the same physical capabilities. I repeat (Yana Toboso uses symbolism) not graphic cruelty. As the author, she's not going to...Rciel is in a deplorable and disturbing state to behold because her manga and narrative are classified as "shonen" and published in G-Fantasy magazine, therefore she wasn't going to show it in a brutal way.And the realistic state of the twins is frivolous, much less that of RCiel.But you only have to pay attention to the twins' expressions and attitudes during those days to really observe and analyze who was completely broken, and that was Rciel, Ociel, despite being in a brutally traumatic state, his emotions were still those of a child who was still afraid, who still at least felt that he could escape with his brother, who still His emotions were real, and that's the most telling point of all...It marks a gap between someone who was still afraid and someone who no longer felt anything... Rciel's state is a total pre-death; he is trying to at least remain emotionally stable for his brother, but We only need to look at the smallest details, even the most unnecessary ones, which define who was the human shield for whom during that dark month.
Below I will leave you a report of what really happened in the sect And what is truly real and certain in the Kuroshitsuji manga, is how they suffered and what they endured.File 1:
OCiel Phantomhive
Here I'll leave my brief analysis of what really happened in the cult...and what happened to the twins.
-Constant physical abuse
-(SA) (lewd touching) no (only that)
(SA) Completely, because he wouldn't have survived a day...or a month
-Extreme captivity
-Cult mark
-Malnutrition
-Extreme psychological trauma
-Physically unharmed, could walk, move, run...?
Yes.
He could run, leave
Sit down
Yes
Rciel
Short captivity
Were they always taking him out?
Abuse (SA) (constant, daily)
(Constant, repetitive, extreme physical abuse)
(Was he taken to noblemen's rooms?...)
Complete SA abuse: physical, daily, humiliation, depravity, victim of fetishism.
Marks all over his body...
(Irreversible damage to his body, legs, arms; physical immobility; immediate and prolonged prostration)
Victim of intermittent genocide
All of the above...
Did he appear unharmed?
Couldn't walk...couldn't move, couldn't run?
Couldn't move?
He wasn't in the same condition as Ociel.
He would have ended up bedridden, and Ociel would have saved him.