Forget about the author's barely disguised fetish. What about the author's barely disguised antisemitism
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Forget about the author's barely disguised fetish. What about the author's barely disguised antisemitism
A very progressive group at my college just posted an infographic that states “ Zionists believe that Jewish people are indigenous to Israel” and I am losing my shit.
They said this in a post including that it’s okay to kill Zionists and they explicitly support all armed resistance
This is quite something. This is really quite the situation.
wtf this is actually insane. this is... i dont even know what to say or how to describe it. its just... I cant quite believe this is what American colleges are coming to...
As a high schooler applying for colleges next year, this isn't making me too excited to go to college at all.
"Zionists believe in historical fact" is a fascinating new reason to hate Zionists
“This is why these conversations are impossible. You keep retreating into facts.”
They described it as “a safe space for difficult conversations.” What they really wanted was an Israeli who would sit quietly and confess.
Interesting how the Holocaust is considered "too long ago" to be relevant to the discussion but the (always ahistorically described) "nakba" is considered first-hand suffering.
OP’s tags should be part of this
the things people, in real life, believe about Israel is shocking.
whenever i try to work on relearning hebrew im met with "HEBREW FOR CHRISTIANS" "JESUS' WORDS IN HEBREW" "BIBLICAL HEBREW EXPLAINED" "GEMATRIA FOR NEOPAGANS" "YESHUA HAMASCHIAH" stop it stop it go away stop
u leftists casually using “zio” are legitimately the amerikkka u talk about
i love when shuls don’t mess around
from central synagogue
Instead of Leaving This Hate Comment You Could Read This Book!
People Without History Are Dust
Queerness remains one of the most stigmatized and overlooked aspects of Holocaust history, often erased due to the lingering homophobia of survivors. People Without History Are Dust challenges this silence, weaving together compelling stories of German, Dutch, Czech, and Polish Jewish Holocaust victims and survivors - including Anne Frank, Molly Applebaum, Margot Heuman, and Gad Beck - whose experiences help illuminate the hidden history of queerness in a time of genocide.
Drawing on extensive archival research, this groundbreaking book uncovers the lives of those who were doubly marginalized, not only persecuted as Jews but also as queer individuals. In doing so, it confronts the ways in which history has excluded or minimized their experiences, urging us to question normative accounts of the Holocaust.
By shedding light on these long-overlooked stories, People Without History Are Dust deepens our understanding of identity, survival, and memory, reminding us why an inclusive and complex approach to history is essential - not just for the sake of the past, but in service to the present and the future as well.
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@qelshapie I hope you don't mind me answering this question.
Imagine ID: #no but fr wtf is those tags in that screenshot
The tags in question are "#gee I wonder why Jewish victims didn't talk about being persecuted for being queer #maybe because being Jewish was the more pressing issue"
I am going to start assuming you're asking in good faith and not writing off Jews talking about the Holocaust.
Being Jewish was the more pressing issue. The Nazis were going after Jews and Roma. The reason gay people were targeted was because the Nazis believed Jews wanted to destroy the nuclear family and had created queers to destabilize families. Does that make a lick of sense? No, but nothing about Nazism does. Queer people died because of antisemitism.
Furthermore, queer people could hide. Hiding isn't a privilege, but it did allow people to survive the Holocaust without being put in a camp. There were plenty of closeted German men who never saw a death camp because they never dated a man. Hiding being Jewish, though, was a different matter.
It does not matter how observant you were. Your ethnicity, which was Jewish, was written on your birth certificate. You were listed as Jewish in census records. That's how Nazis knew who to round up. It's why the resistance blew up records offices. There were people who converted out of Judaism who were still marked because they had Jewish blood. They still lost rights. Your best bet to avoid this was to shed your identity and move to a different town but a) it's hard to leave your family behind, b) it looked suspicious if you move suddenly, and c) no one knew how bad it would get for Jews. So people didn't shed their birth identity, and they died. It doesn't matter if they were Orthodox or fully assimilated; they were murdered for having Jewish genes.
Being Jewish was seen as a genetic disease. The Nazis wiped out whole families because everyone has Jewish DNA. Meanwhile, being queer was a moral failing. If you were caught with another man, your wife and children weren't going to the camps. Just you.
I've spoken about the difference in how queer people and Jews were treated during the Holocaust here.
Ultimately, the deaths of queers was a side project. It was a fun little detour, rounding up people who might destabilize Germany, but it wasn't the goal. And to make that point, please consult this graph:
I don't know how to do an image ID for graphs. But the graph shows the Jewish death toll at 6 million, non-Jewish Polish death toll at 3 million, disabled and Romani deaths at least than a million each, and gay arrests are barely visible. There are no exact numbers given.
Please note that the other columns are deaths. That tiny orange blip? That's ARRESTS.
Being Jewish was far, far more pressing than being queer. The tags are absolutely correct.
Okay, I will admit that I am not as well-educated as I could be on the stories of individual Holocaust victims and survivors, so I can't speak about Molly Applebaum, Margot Heuman, and Gad Beck, but including Anne Frank there is a perfect demonstration of how disingenuous that original post is
Anne Frank was not persecuted for being Queer. She was persecuted - and murdered - for being Jewish
Anne Frank, by today's standards, may well be considered Queer, to the delight of everyone who thinks discussions of the Holocaust are a matter of representation, but she never got to determine that, because
Anne Frank was murdered for being Jewish
You could, if you don't think a child being murdered for being Jewish is tragic enough, argue that it's a tragedy that she never got to fully explore that part of herself, but that's about as far as you can go.
And this is in fact exactly what the tags in the screenshot seem to be talking about - Anne Frank did not talk about being persecuted for being Queer because being Jewish was the more pressing issue.
The book summary in the original post does not explicitly make the claim that Anne Frank was murdered for being Queer, but the wording (such as "the hidden history of Queerness in a time of genocide") certainly carries that suggestion, and that suggestion is an ahistorical one.
Preserving @jadwigaspeaks' tags:
#also ''question normative accounts of the Holocaust'' is a phrase that is not *inherently* a dogwhistle -#the idea that goyische civilians didn't participate in or know about the genocide happening around them is a normative account to question#- this is *already* a post that essentially accuses jews of lying about the holocaust for their own ends#so forgive me for withholding the benefit of the doubt#holocaust universalisation#holocaust tw#antisemitism#historical revisionism
I used to consider myself a leftist. I no longer do.
"What made you change?"
Nothing. I still hold the same beliefs, the same values, the same morals. I'm still the same person I was when I attended Pride, when I volunteered, when I was loudly fighting racism, sexism, and inequality.
But at some point you found a dusty old sign in your grandfather's attic. You gave it a lick of paint and proudly placed it on the front door.
"NO ZIONISTS ALLOWED"
it reads. "Don't worry" you told me. "We like you. We just mean the racists, the fascists, the evil ones. We don't mean you. You're one of the good ones."
But the thing is, I'm not stupid. And you didn't do a very good job. The paint has already begun to peel, and the original words are peeking through.
"NO JEWS ALLOWED"
But its JUST antizionsim, right guys? It's JUST antizionism.
Yeah, no. This is an example of people in the comments on this post (and no, I won't blur their names or cut them out. They're down there saying this shit with their whole fucking chest). This is what EVERY SINGLE SO-CALLED 'ANTIZIONIST' TOLERATES.
You allowed this shit into your movement. Because, let's be real. The reason so many of you assholes are complaining about "But but but you're making this up!" is because you know the OP is right. You know that the functional result of "antizionism", whether you admit to yourself that it is antisemitic or you're still coping by denying it, is that Jews are not allowed. Because you vet us all. You treat us all like enemies trying to sneak into leftist spaces (gee, where the fuck have I heard that about Jews before?).
Antizionism is antisemitic. Antizionists demand that Jews turn out our pockets and present ourselves for your fucking judgment, so you can decide which of us are "good ones" and which of us deserve to be harassed, to be assaulted, to die for the crime of not assimilating to your bullshit colonizer mindset of "We know your history and desires and culture and people more than you do."
I will never be one of your good ones. We will outlive you. Am Yisrael Chai.
It's so funny when a zionist calls other people colonizers. But you're right, antizionism is antisemitic. Because it's Semitic when you snipe 80 year olds for the crime of being older than the occupation. It's Semitic when you rape little girls at border crossings. It's especially Semitic when you play victim meanwhile you're bombing all the civilian infrastructure you can get your hands on.
Okay Christian weirdo. Don't cut yourself on that edge.
I’m just now finding out Anne Frank was bi??? OMG
Yeah okay, those edits were made by her dad, a cishet person - and also her dad, a Holocaust survivor, who would have been brutally aware that when the diary was first published in freakin’ 1947, had he included anything which people could use to demonize his daughter or tar her as some kind of “pervert”, it would prevent the message he was trying to send about the horrors of the Holocaust and the heroism of his daughter from being properly understood and accepted the way he hoped.
That isn’t fair. It isn’t just. But it is reality. If Otto Frank had let this be included in the published version, there’s a large chance the homophobic backlash would have prevented the book from reaching the audience it did and spreading the message it needed to. It was NINETEEN. FORTY. SEVEN. The Holocaust had ended TWO YEARS AGO. The acceptance of LGBT identities was basically nonexistent. Otto Frank made a decision based on the time and place he was living in, about what the world at that time was and wasn’t ready to accept.
Let me say this as bluntly as I can - I am a bisexual Jewish girl and I would have made the same decision Otto Frank did. Making sure Anne Frank was unambiguously seen as sympathic and heroic was more important. Making sure people weren’t sidetracked from the main issue of the Holocaust was more important. He shouldn’t have had to make that decision, without doubt. Anne Frank’s sexuality (however she would have identified in modern terms) shouldn’t be considered relevant to her status as a hero or a sympathetic victim. But in 1947, it undoubtedly would have been.
Otto Frank survived Auschwitz and lost his entire family (a wife and two teenage daughters) to the horrors of the Holocaust. He hoped that publishing his daughter’s diary would spread awareness and sympathy for the victims of the Holocaust. If he had to make sacrifices to do that - well frankly, so fucking be it. I don’t know who alive today has the right to judge him.
Let’s also look at this thread from a queer Jewish person who brings up the fact that ANNE FRANK EDITED HER DIARY HERSELF
i think its also important to note that like. hmm.
im bisexual and i had experiences like that, kissing other girls at sleepovers specifically, and it not only took me another half a decade to start identifying as bi, but all the girls i did that with grew up to be straight women.
having those kinds of feelings and experiences at that age may mean nothing about your sexual orientation.
Im begging queer goyim to shut the fuck up about the holocaust lmao
i wonder if my goyish friends would understand the sheer dread in the pit of my stomach when i saw this.
how many jews have been killed now?
who else wants me dead?
how will people (who i once thought would be friends, who i marched alongside, who i trusted) justify my death?
when will i need to flee?
i wonder if i should explain it to them. i think they would trust me. (i hope they would trust me.) maybe i could help them not fall into the pit of hatred of jews (are they already in the pit? would they want me dead? my cousin who goes to camp in israel every year? my great aunt who made aliyah?) but i don't want to do that. it's tiring. it's exhausting. and it's even harder when it's not faceless icons on a screen, but people i care about, who i value.
i wonder if i knew any of the dead. if i knew someone who knew any of the dead. i wonder if there are any dead. i wonder if it's just someone saying there should be dead. i wonder when that became a "just". i wonder if i'll need to flee to israel. i wonder when i'll need to flee to israel. i wonder if i will flee to israel. i wonder how they'll go about killing us. i wonder if they'll use all the inventions of modernity, i wonder if there will be parking lots like there were at auschwitz. i wonder if there will be death camps or just pogroms. i wonder if we'll be allowed to call them pogroms, or if we'll be accused of exaggerating, of lying for secret jew purposes.
i wonder what those secret jew purposes would even be. survival? being able to pray in peace? what is our secret nefarious goal, our hidden aim?
having goyish friends understand the dread in the pit of our stomachs when we see that jumblr is trending?
the whole Argentina thing is a great example of how all conspiracy theories tend towards antisemitism lmao. like if it had just been people grumbling about the ref that would be fine. people do that all the time in all sorts of sports. but it's not enough to complain that Egypt lost to a guy who's considered one of the greatest footballers of all time. no, t h e J e w s had to have a hand in it because?? they like Argentina? I guess? (even though we apparently tried to burn down their rainforests earlier this year) and my evidence? why, didn't you know "Messi" means something in Hebrew? I assume. Google translate won't tell me anything (probably because they're in on it too!) and look! here's a pic of him at a famous place in Israel which is t h e J e w C o u n t r y
uh. i'm afraid to ask. but what did people claim that "Messi" means in Hebrew?
As far as I'm aware they didn't, but there's a post somewhere with a screenshot of some person on the former Twitter having google searches "what messi means in Hebrew".
Either way, won't be the first time I see people ask "what x name means in Hebrew/in the Bible" when the name is neither Hebrew nor in the Bible. It's usually frustrating, and on this occasion just a conspiracy theory.
I'm shouting into the void here but I need to get it out.
I don't label my politics, but I'm what someone would call on the left. I spent my teenage years when Tumblr social justice was at its height. I learned things, checked my own biases, and I would like to think became a more empathetic person because of what I learnt from online progressive spaces.
The way these spaces have treated Jewish communities over the past 2.5 years has been nothing short of fucking appalling.
The worst massacre of Jews since the Holocaust was minimised, denied, justified, or outright celebrated.
Jewish people were immediately told to put their grief and trauma over this to away, because Palestine's pain was more important to talk about.*
Jewish and Israeli people were told they needed to try and understand why armed men raped, tortured, and killed members of their community. Because, you know, the murderous rapists are who we need to have sympathy for here. Anyone can be pushed to the point of, I don't know, murdering a young woman and parading her corpse around a street for men to spit on her dead body. If you really think about it, isn't that actually kind of an understandable thing to do?
When raising concerns over the rising antisemitism that was starting to look a lot like the build-up to that little historical tidbit called The Holocaust, Jews were told they were selfish for raising the issue.
When asking people not to call for intifadas that have historically resulted in thousands of dead Jews, they're told they're taking it all the wrong way.
When Israeli victims spoke of the abuse they received on Oct 7 and in captivity, they're told they need to stay silent because otherwise they risk justifying the genocide of Palestinians.
When 15 people were murdered at a Hannukah festival, there were no social media icons, no surge from progressive groups to find out what support they needed.
To be clear here, progressive groups seem more concerned with antisemitism in the Harry Potter books than they are about the actual, you know, string of dead Jews that have been murdered over the past few years. If you condemn antisemitic representations in diction and then turn around and completely ignore real-life fucking murder, then I'm sorry I genuinely do not think you ever gave a shit about fighting antisemitism, you just wanted to fight Jk Rowling. **
Absolutely fuck everyone who has justified or denied what happened on Oct 7th. There were ways to advocate for both Israeli and Palestinian victims, but the people who should have known better have ensured that Oct 7th wasn't just one day of hell for Jewish communities, but that its been currently 2.5 years of hell that seems to just be getting worse.
And the most infuriating part is the people who did justify Oct 7th will never admit they were wrong, because that would mean admitting they argued that the murder rape mutilation torture and kidnap of a Jewish community was acceptable, and that would break their brains. I mean it. The cognitive dissonance between believing you are someone who cares for human rights, whilst also being someone who justified all of that, is too great. The brain will always protect itself. Its why people are currently doubling down on there being no rapes on Oct 7th. Rape is not resistance, it is not self defence, it is not landback, it is not right of return, it is not decolonisation, it is not any of the shit people tell themselves Oct 7th was. Rape is just rape. It is just men torturing people (mainly women) for no other reason than because they enjoy it. You will never see these people admitting rape occurred, because the second they do is the second they realise just how horrifically they have behaved.
And it's not getting better. Hate crimes and murders of worldwide Jewish communities are rising. Jewish people are looking to leave places like the US, UK and Australia, which were once considered some of the safest places for them to live. A KKK slur (zio) is now common online usage. Jewish people are expected to sever any connection to an important part of their culture (Israel/Hebrew) in order to be treated somewhat civily. The more IDF crimes are uncovered in Gaza, the more worldwide Jewish communities bear the brunt of the anger. Typing 'Jewish' into any social media brings you into an absolute clusterfuck of the most horrific things you can possibly see people say about their fellow human beings.
I am just sick and exhausted and furious and it feels like I'm hitting my fists against a brick wall that is not knocking down. How do you even get people to realise how bad this is????
I am not Jewish. I know full well that Jewish people talking about all of this get ignored. I know full well that a Jewish person standing up for Palestine gets thousands of notes, and a Jewish person standing up for their own people barely breaks 100. I know full well that Jewish people are being smeared as paranoid or crazy or selfish. I know full well that non-Jewish people speaking up about antisemitism is taken more seriously than Jewish people talking about their own experiences.
Can you all just start fucking having some fucking empathy for Jewish and Israeli communities who have been facing the worst 2 years of their lives. Fucking please. It is not that fucking hard to feel empathy for lots of groups at once. To empathise with both Palestine and Israel, Muslims and Jews. Empathy for all is part of what brings us away from just being animals and makes us human.
If you can't do it, it is not an issue with Jews or Israelis or Zionists or the IDF, it is an issue with you.
*I am not saying Palestinian pain isn't important to raise awareness of, and the people fearing what the IDF would do immediately after Oct 7th were right to raise it. I'm saying asking Jewish communities to take on the trauma of Palestinians, when they were still reeling from their own inter-community trauma, was wrong and unhelpful. I wouldn't ask Palestinian communities to have centered the trauma of Oct 7th either. Trauma is not a competition and everyone deserves to have their respective pain treated fairly.
**also not saying that Rowling shouldn't be criticized, because she is awful, but that real-life massacres and rapes of Jews is sort of a bigger priority than bad representation in the Harry Potter books, and that if you can't understand that then...yeah. you didn't actually care about jewish people at all.
#thank you!#I really appreciate gentiles saying this#because genuinely I feel like I'm going crazy half the time#like the people who said that killing chickens to eat was too cruel are A okay with a Jewish infant and toddler being murdered#it's like everyone just forgot their morals#thank you for saying this#antisemitism via @shofarsogood
And they’re gone??? Harassed off the platform in 6 weeks????
Have yall seen that people are blaming Israel and jews for Egypts loss against Argentina? Its gotten so bad that they've now edited the referees Wikipedia page to say he's jewish.
Wow, I thought that was just pure unhinged Nazi nonsense. That's so fun. (/S)
Meanwhile, in Egypt you have to be Muslim to play on the team at all. Copts, for example, who are an indigenous group, have no right to play.
MAYBE the fact that Egypt is artificially limiting its potential player base has more to do with its loss than The Joos!
Francois Letexier’s entry on the online encyclopaedia was altered after he came in for criticism over a number of contentious calls during t
Wowwwwwwwwww.
Videos circulating online show individuals shouting “Go back to your Zionist homeland,” “You kill Arab children, you kill gay children" to a
Videos shared online show people carrying rainbow flags incorporating the Star of David being confronted by individuals shouting “Free Palestine.” The harassment escalated with attendees shouting, “Go back to your Zionist homeland,” “You kill Arab children, you kill gay children,” “F*** you, Jew,” and “How many babies did you kill?”
But guys, the queer community totally doesn't have an antisemitism problem. Its totally not antisemitic to say "fuck you jew". (Sarcasm)
Like it is actually disgusting. Goyische queers don't want love to win, they want jew-free love to win.
**and before anyone says anything, it has been a common thing for YEARS to have the star of david on a pride flag to represent queer jews, not israel. Its not some recent development.
let’s take a look at the replies to this post of a beautiful family, I’m sure they will be very normal and not hideously racist, right?
first time I’ve seen “Zionists killed Bob Marley,” but considering I’ve seen an endless conspiracist stream of “(((Zionists))) murdered (Diana, MJ, JFK, RFK, John Lennon, Whitney Houston, Janis Joplin, MLK Jr., Luther Vandross, and whatever other figure you can possibly imagine here)” over the past two months, I’m not surprised.
I don’t care if these are bots or these are real people. it makes no difference where it’s coming from, this language and thought process continues to leech into normalized behavior and it is reprehensible.
anyway:
Marley, whose biopic debuts this week, long claimed Jewish ancestry
He designed this special shoes, shared between him and his paralyzed daughter just to make her feel the sensation of walking.
WEEP DAFEELS PENETRATE ME
Oh my goodness
This is probably so good for her body, too! Imagine her muscles getting moved in ways they don’t normally and she is upright and hopefully not having any pressure spots! This is lovely in so many ways!
This is a wonderful invention, but the man in the picture is one of the testers. He is not the inventor. The inventor was an Israeli woman named Debby Elnatan who developed this with an Irish company for her son.
Keep that last comment in mind, people! We can’t keep erasing women’s accomplishments like this.
Apparently, a Redditor cropped the original image that displayed two women prominently to only focus on this guy on the side and rewrote the story to make it seem like a man’s generous innovation. This is not some kind of wacky telephone game error; this is deliberate misogyny.