Currently a fangirl obsessed with Acotar, specifically Lucien. Also as you can tell Dick Grayson is my first love. Also expect random Anime Obsessions, lol.
Stopped into BaM today and they had Lucien’s bookmark and the cauldron boil me sticker. I was so happy I didn’t miss my chance of grabbing them. Now trying to decide if I should order the spring court wine tumblr off the website.
Taking inspiration from @jemdeserveslove’s latest post about Eris setting up ACOSF’s major plot points, I want to point out two key discussions Eris has with Rhys and members of the IC regarding Beron and Spring Court. Dialogue from these discussions is under the break below.
SJM tells us through Eris that:
Spring Court and the human lands look ripe for the taking, and opportunistic Beron is close to invading.
War is imminent because the new borders have not been drawn, and the war on Prythian soil will be started by Beron.
While Eris confirms in the penultimate chapter Beron’s next move is to ally with Koschei, Eris says as soon as Chapter 14 that they can justify a war and win allies if they can prove what Briallyn (and Koschei) are up to.
Related to what Eris says:
ACOSF Ch. 7 Jurian says Graysen’s legions stick to demarcation lines with the implication that they eventually will cross into Spring Court lands
ACOSF Ch. 30 the IC stations Lucien at the Spring Court specifically because they need Spring Court’s forces with war approaching. Presumably a war with Beron.
There’s hints of how ruthless Beron would be with the Dread Trove. He’d rival KoH.
Rhys worries Beron would use the Prison’s inmates in an upcoming war.
Koschei says he’s waiting for Vassa, who is *checks notes* living in the lands Koschei’s latest ally Beron wants to acquire.
This is the playbook for ACOTAR 6 - 8. She handed it right to us. Yes. There’s other plot points like Dusk Court, Illyrian rebellion, and more crossover. But Beron being the next big bad before finally defeating Koschei is the main plot all subplots will feed into.
You cannot escape Autumn Court. You can’t escape Lucien’s relevance. You can’t escape Eris. You cannot escape that lawless and vulnerable Spring Court will also be the cross section where Beron, Night Court and its allies, and the humans all meet and battle.
I’ve said this before, but Beron is the Saruman to Koschei’s Sauron. He needs to be dealt with first.
This is where the story is headed.
ACOFAS Ch. 6 dialogue only:
Feyre: Your father is forbidden to cross into the human lands.
Eris: I don’t think it’s your call.
Rhys: I would suggest reminding Beron that territory expansion is not on the table. For any court.
Eris: Then I would suggest to you, High Lord, that you speak to your dear friend Tamlin about it.
Feyre: Why.
Eris: Because Tamlin’s territory is the only one that borders the human lands. I’d think that anyone looking to expand would have to go through the Spring Court first. Or at least obtain his permission.
ACOSF Ch. 14 dialogue only:
Rhys: Why does your father want to start a war so badly?
Eris: Why does anyone go to war? Why does Vallahan not sign the treaty? The borders of this new world have not yet been set.
Cassian: Beron doesn’t have the military strength to control the Autumn Court and a territory on the continent.
Eris: Who says he wants land on the continent?
Rhys: Beron knows another war that pits Fae against Fae would be catastrophic. Many of us would be wiped out entirely. Especially … Especially those of us who are weakened. And when the dust settles, there would be at least one court left vacant, its lands bare for the taking.
Skip over Eris double talk about Tamlin staying in beast form and not caring about the lawlessness and vulnerability of his lands
Eris: I can delay my father from allying with Briallyn and starting this war for a little while. But not forever. A few months, perhaps. So I’d suggest your shadowsinger hurry. Find a way to deal with Briallyn, find out what she wants and why. Discover whether Koschei is indeed involved. At best, we’ll stop them all. At worst, we’ll have proof to justify any conflict and hopefully win allies to our side, avoiding the bloodshed that would carve up these lands once more. My father would think twice before standing against an army of superior strength and size
Ok so I headcanon that Autumn Court has a rare magic called Death Whispers and I think (fingers crossed) that Elain and Lucien and the BoE are going to need to go to Autumn to get one of these Death Whisperers to speak to Papa Archeron to find out how he worded his bargain with Koschei.
I know Lucien was there with Papa A but I have been thinking that Lucien did not hear the bargain agreed upon.
And I love the idea of Elain getting to talk to her dad again.
But as they are getting ready to leave the Death Whisperer says “someone else is here and she wants to talk”.
Imagine being connected to so many plots that the people who want to call you irrelevant CAN'T get rid of you?
Lucien isn't Autumn Court anymore? No problem, he'll be chilling over in the Day Court.
Take away his Day Court parentage? No problem, he's hanging out with Vassa and Jurian in the Human Lands waiting to go against Koschei.
No? No Band of Exiles? Guess he can be back in Spring, where he spent most of his life as the High Lord's right hand.
Tamlin doesn't want to be allow Lucien in Spring anymore? Aight, find him in the Night Court being employed (some people could never) and his mate is the High Lady's sister.
in these dying hours (until october) I would like to remind everyone that
Correct me if I'm mistaken, but Eris, future high lord of the Autumn Court, was the one to introduce us to the whole sacred mountains in Prythian thing. He pointed out to Cassian how the Illyrians never bothered to see what's beneath Ramiel and all that. ALSO, he was pretty much the one to introduce most plot points in ACOSF, he was the one getting the plot going.
Gwyn is most likely related to the Autumn Court, if it's her father or grandfather, we don't know, but it is VERY likely that she's connected to the Vanserras, as her mother resided in the Forest House aka The Vanserra Family Residence. Otherwise, SJM wouldn't have spended a conversation between her and Nesta just to explain, in details, her messy heritage. It might not be the Vanserras, but she is connected to Autumn.
Pretty much no one knows Lucien is Helion's son, but that will be a plot point. That is a Autumn Court plot, because it involves Lady Autumn too. And because he is Helion's son he's also connected to the Mask, whatever that connection might be. All of this will probably be a big revelation in the books, even if we already know it.
Koschei has many allies and one of his allies is Beron, the evil crazy old high lord of the Autumn Court, who is probably just doing shit after shit. Lots of the ACOSF plot comes from the fact that Eris allied with NC to take down his father, which hasn't happened yet! Also, talking about Koschei, the bargain in exchange for Vassa is ending, the only characters that know the details of the bargain, as far as we know, is maybe Vassa herself and Lucien.
AUTUMN COURT IS EVERYWHERE 🍂🧡🦊
They are pretty much antagonistic in all the books, and that is the interesting bit. We know they are not, but they have done some bad stuff or just really have some bad takes on things, and that's mostly because of Beron!! So if he's gone, Autumn Court will be an ally to the Night Court, despite all their differences. And all of Autumn's plots are just soooo interesting!!
Elriels (🙄🙄🙄): omg the autumn equinox reminds me of that painting Feyre imagined of Elain and Azriel in Chapter 69 of AcoWaR. Elriels we are getting Elriel, yay.
Like he didn’t wear a fox mask for an entire book, We all made that up, right????
Like Lucien wasn’t called a fox or lord of foxes by Rhys, correct??? That was in the fake acotar books that only a certain group of us read.
Like Beron, you know the High Lord of the Autumn Court, he isn’t actually trying to work with Koschei, he is just a tired old High Lord who is confused and just wants to enjoy his quiet life ruling his court in peace.
Like we do know that this BB Autumn Equinox Promo Event thing has ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with Autumn and the characters associated with Autumn, right? Because Autumn has zero relevance to the remaining plot lines foreshadowed to us in the books. Like BB was just confused and called it the Autumn Equinox but actually it’s was suppose to be a “shadowed eclipse” with all its maple leaves and orange colors and foxes and autumn foods. We all just didn’t pick up on the obvious signs that this is all night court themed.
🔮 what do her visions feel like? does she experience physical sensations? dreams?
🌊 what was her experience like in the cauldron?
I wanted to ask you these because I'm very interested with your Elain time-traveling theory.
🥰🥰🥰Aww thank you for the ask 🥰🥰🥰
🔮 what do her visions feel like? does she experience physical sensations? dreams?
Omg I had so many different ideas came to mind for this question. And like I wrote, then deleted, then jotted down new ideas, then deleted again, and finally settled on keeping it simple and just listing all the ideas that popped into my head for what Elain’s visions feel like.
So here they are:
1. her visions are like she is walking through oil paintings or water paintings that are in motion.
2. Her visions are like the void that Eleven in Stranger Things enters. A black void of nothing. No light and no sound.
3. Her visions are like the world around her pauses and she is like a ghost who can walk out of the present and into a new scene or memory somewhere in time.
4. She is in a hallway full of doors and she wonders down this hallway till a door glows for her. Meaning what lays behind this door holds the answers to the questions she needs answers for.
-For the second part of this question: does Elain experience physical sensations?
So for me I think she cannot hear, she cannot talk, she cannot touch at this moment in time. I think as her powers grow she will start getting those sensations. She will be able to hear and talk and touch. She will be able to interact with the scenes. That she will be able to study them and come out of them not with confused riddles but with full cognition and understanding of what she saw.
🌊 what was her experience like in the cauldron?
This one made me really deep dive the Cauldron and its relationship with Elain.
Considering how the Cauldron favors Elain, and gave her gifts, and even purrs at her killing the King of Hybern, I have to believe that Elain’s time in the Cauldron while scary was not torture like Nesta’s.
So something had to have happened between Elain and the Cauldron to make the Cauldron treat her differently.
So I believe that Elain entered the Cauldron and her experience was probably like a sensory depravation room of completely darkness and nothingness. And It’s was definitely scary.
I see her curling up into a ball and maybe even wanting to give up thinking a life in a place such as this was not worth living.
But then something, a small noise or a glint of light, catches her attention. And she stands up to find it. Because if something is here, it might be something worth living for.
And what she find is the cauldrons heart. Just like Nesta found the heart of HoW, Elain found the heart of the cauldron. And it’s at this time that her first vision happens.
She sees the abuse that the Cauldron experienced at the hands of the Daglen. She feels the pain the Cauldron felt. The fear the Cauldron experienced.
And when the Daglen walked away, after break the Cauldron to their will, she approaches the Cauldron and softly touches it and cries for it.
She cried for it.
She cried for its pain.
She cried that an object of life was forced into darkness and death.
Even though Elain was suppose to be going through her own struggle/her own torture/her own ordeal in the depths of the Cauldron. She instead found the Cauldrons heart and saw the Cauldrons fear, and in that moment, in that memory, she put aside her fear and instead gave the Cauldron a moment of kindness through a warm touch and tears.
🔮 what do her visions feel like? does she experience physical sensations? dreams?
🌊 what was her experience like in the cauldron?
I wanted to ask you these because I'm very interested with your Elain time-traveling theory.
🥰🥰🥰Aww thank you for the ask 🥰🥰🥰
🔮 what do her visions feel like? does she experience physical sensations? dreams?
Omg I had so many different ideas came to mind for this question. And like I wrote, then deleted, then jotted down new ideas, then deleted again, and finally settled on keeping it simple and just listing all the ideas that popped into my head for what Elain’s visions feel like.
So here they are:
1. her visions are like she is walking through oil paintings or water paintings that are in motion.
2. Her visions are like the void that Eleven in Stranger Things enters. A black void of nothing. No light and no sound.
3. Her visions are like the world around her pauses and she is like a ghost who can walk out of the present and into a new scene or memory somewhere in time.
4. She is in a hallway full of doors and she wonders down this hallway till a door glows for her. Meaning what lays behind this door holds the answers to the questions she needs answers for.
-For the second part of this question: does Elain experience physical sensations?
So for me I think she cannot hear, she cannot talk, she cannot touch at this moment in time. I think as her powers grow she will start getting those sensations. She will be able to hear and talk and touch. She will be able to interact with the scenes. That she will be able to study them and come out of them not with confused riddles but with full cognition and understanding of what she saw.
🌊 what was her experience like in the cauldron?
This one made me really deep dive the Cauldron and its relationship with Elain.
Considering how the Cauldron favors Elain, and gave her gifts, and even purrs at her killing the King of Hybern, I have to believe that Elain’s time in the Cauldron while scary was not torture like Nesta’s.
So something had to have happened between Elain and the Cauldron to make the Cauldron treat her differently.
So I believe that Elain entered the Cauldron and her experience was probably like a sensory depravation room of completely darkness and nothingness. And It’s was definitely scary.
I see her curling up into a ball and maybe even wanting to give up thinking a life in a place such as this was not worth living.
But then something, a small noise or a glint of light, catches her attention. And she stands up to find it. Because if something is here, it might be something worth living for.
And what she find is the cauldrons heart. Just like Nesta found the heart of HoW, Elain found the heart of the cauldron. And it’s at this time that her first vision happens.
She sees the abuse that the Cauldron experienced at the hands of the Daglen. She feels the pain the Cauldron felt. The fear the Cauldron experienced.
And when the Daglen walked away, after break the Cauldron to their will, she approaches the Cauldron and softly touches it and cries for it.
She cried for it.
She cried for its pain.
She cried that an object of life was forced into darkness and death.
Even though Elain was suppose to be going through her own struggle/her own torture/her own ordeal in the depths of the Cauldron. She instead found the Cauldrons heart and saw the Cauldrons fear, and in that moment, in that memory, she put aside her fear and instead gave the Cauldron a moment of kindness through a warm touch and tears.
I have been seeing an increase of posts comparing Elain to the CC Mystics.
And my instant reaction is I have no desire to return to the Torture Tubs of Salt Water with Elain.
But also the Mystics astral bodies live in the darkness. Their physical bodies live in tubs of saltwater, their physical bodies don’t eat, and their physical bodies have a machine breathing for them.
Why are we comparing that way of “living” with Elain?
“BB liking an Instagram post saying we are not getting the titles and that’s ok because Sarah doesn’t owe us anything”
Yes Sarah doesn’t truly owe us anything. She is her own person with a life and family that she wants to enjoy in peace. I do not need to see posts of her on vacation or out to dinner or getting ready in the morning.
And BB and SJM can totally decide not to release titles or the covers or the blurbs or synopsis.
But if they are going to make this decision, after announcing that 2 new books will be releasing in October and January with a 3rd following within the year after that. THEN THEY SHOULD BE FUCKEN PROMOTING AND MARKETING THE BOOKS AT LEAST.
SJM should at the very least be transparent with her fandom and make a post saying “I want you all to be surprised when you get handed your pre-order book on release day. I want you excited as you see that title and cover art at your release parties. I want you surprised by what you will be reading in Book 6.”
BB should be promoting the book(s). They don’t need to share the titles or cover art to still get the fandom excited and hyped for a new book in their multi million dollar series by a multi million dollar author. Yet so far all they have done is post the pre sale links, do 1 promo event that was actually planned a year ago but then held off executing till after the book 6 & 7 announcement, 2 FMK videos from said promo event, and some shitty AI created court quiz that went onto their BB acotar website. There is so much more BB could be doing to hype up the books and get the fandom excited.
And personally when the fandom is happy with knowing the plan by the author for the titles and covers and the fans see that the publisher is acknowledging their dedication to the series that can draw in more fans.
You want to stop the endless barrage of angry fans “demanding” more info for an anticipated book release, for a book series that has not had a new book in almost over 5yrs, for a book series that left certain characters on a cliffhanger for almost over 5yrs: then be transparent, be informative, and show us that you are just as fucken excited to return to Prythian as the fucken fans are!!!!!
Because we all are excited to return to Prythian, we just would like to know what the hell the plan is on your end!!!!!
Things I wish we got in SF either through BCs or through Feyre and Rhys PoV:
1) Lucien seeing Starfall for the first time.
2) Feyre looking at Lucien and Helion being in the same location, at the same time, and Rhys telling her to stop it before she makes them suspicious.
3) Feyre telling Lucien about being pregnant.
4) if Feyre didn’t tell Lucien about being pregnant, then Rhys telling Lucien non chalantly thinking his wife already told him, all while he tells him he needs to live in spring court permanently, and then finding out Lucien had no clue Feyre was pregnant till right now and now Rhys feels guilty.
5) Rhys having to tell Feyre he is permanently moving Lucien to spring court to handle Tamlin and Feyre’s concerns about that.
6) Feyre spending time with her new “companion” Elain 🙄🙄🙄. Since Feyre has been spending more time with her now with Mor gone.
7) Feyre talking to and preparing Elain about Hewn City and maybe helping her pick out a dress for the Ball.
8) Cassian mentioning Elain’s behavior to Feyre and Feyre tries to tail Elain out of the house to see what she is actually doing and Rhys sneaks up on her.
(Edit to add)
9) Elain figuring out Feyre is pregnant. And Elain celebrating the baby with Feyre and maybe Rhys since she missed out on the family celebration in Chapter 21.
If you have any you wish to add please go ahead and do so. I feel like we missed a lot of character building moments for these background characters because Nesta and Cassian were kinda just focused on their small little bubble during SF.
So something interesting about the Garvin Lane Spring Court Wine Tumblr, that kinda pairs to a theory I have had since reading SF. There is a Harp/Lyre on the tumblr and it’s is in close proximity to Lucien Fox Mask.
Now I have a theory and it’s possibly a way out there theory that the 3 Dread Trove items magic corresponds to and compliments each Archeron sisters magic.
Nesta-Death Magic-The Mask-controls the dead.
Feyre-Daemati-The Crown-mind control.
Elain-Seer-The Harp-time manipulation.
Each Dread Trove items Magic could be an enhancer to each Archeron sister’s magical abilities.
And the dread trove shows sentience. And most sentient items we have seen in the books picks and chooses their wielder/owner. And we know that all 3 items together is too powerful for 1 person to control for long periods of time. But if each item picked its user and the users are sister who are connected by blood than we can have a situation where the Archeron sisters are capable of wielding the immense power of the dread trove to defeat whatever powerful villain is threatening their world.
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