this is a general discourse blog where i'll reblog and well. interact with discourse. mainly shipcourse.
this blog was inspired by the anti-willo movement and the amount of anti-willo-character blogs thats been showing up! i went with anti-proship for the url instead though as. i'm a singlet and i just felt more comfortable to focus on shipcourse instead. do know im one hell of a supporter of the movement, though!
anon is on. for now. feel free to claim tags 'n whatnot, i'll make a list eventually :)
(dividers by @/sister-lucifer)!
About the Mod
i'm an 18yr old transmasc, autistic, and alterhuman critter. he/him or any neos, please. tone tags also appreciated.
i do go by water, but you're free to just refer to me as sans!
Tagging System
#🦴 | rebloggin'
#🦴 | answered asks
#🦴 | important
#🦴 | yappin' -> text posts
Stances/BYI
i'm well aware of the fact DNIs don't really tend to work. (in my case, at least.) so here's my list of stances. if you happen to be against any of my stances, there's a very high chance i'll block ya.
anti-endo/willo/polyminds/tulpas
anti-proship/darkship/comship
anti-radqueer/xenosatanists
anti-harrasment (if you tell people to die/kys. stop it. bad.)
anti-contact for harmful paraphilias
anti-generative AI
pro-recovery
pro-kin for fun
pro-contradictory labels
transandrophobia exists.
the terms TME and TMA just divide the queer community.
curious about my stance/reasoning on something? ask me in good faith, and i'll be happy to answer.
Proshippers don't get to argue "it's just fiction" when they think REAL PERSON fiction is okay. That's not a special blorbo that's a real person who has feelings. An autonomous being. Someone who might come across your gross shit and maybe even kill themselves because who would actually react good to seeing a fic of yourself raping someone you care about???
"well I'm anti rpf but-" oh so you DONT think any and all ships should be allowed? Interesting.
"people outside the internet won't gaf about me transitioning into another race!!!!!" internal judgement exists and politeness is not approval, they are judging you internally
Radqueers are basically a cult and I'm not exaggerating when I say this, both as a former radqueer AND a cult survivor. They use the fact that the community is mostly made up of young teenagers as a shield but trust me there is a large group of older people in the community who are slowly but surely grooming and indoctrinating kids into becoming radqueers.
They target people with unstable identities or those who are trying to find their identity or are in the process of it, convert them, and then because of the way the community is structured you end up forming your entire identity around pervertedness, being problematic and being "unloveable" to general society and around your trauma or gaining trauma. You are thrown neck deep into extremely dangerous situations and thrust into harmful coping mechanisms that do nothing but hurt you and the people around you, while constantly being told that this is the only place you'll ever be loved and that everyone else will reject you and "cancel" you. There's also something to be said about how a lot of radqueers treat being "closeted"/keeping their identity a secret.
Radqueers are a fucking cult that suck in vulnerable and hurting and mentally ill teens and I'm so glad we're out and healing, nearly 6 months out now.
Fun fact: transspecies, as an identity, is much older than the radqueer/transID movement! I would appreciate if radqueers would stop claiming a harmless alterhuman identity into a group that includes identities like FUCKING TRANSNAZI. thank you.
Cleanqueer is an identity focusing on anti-harassment pro-recovery that acknowledges the harm caused by Pro/Darkship, Radqueer, and anacent communities and seeks to encourage those people to find help and get better.
⚠️ Be aware it’s possible this post could go through (minor) changes in the future. Reblogs keep the version that was reblogged, so the original post is the most reliable.
More info below the cut -
｡˚○The bluegreen color represents healing. Green invokes healing, and blue invokes education and calmness; mixing these two represents healing and education about doing so. It is also associated with cleanliness.
｡˚○The pink color represents queerness and healthy sexuality.
｡˚○The rainbow in the middle is a lighter and more blurred version of the radnormal flag. Cleanqueer is a bit like a cousin of radnormal. It is somewhat inspired by the label and is connected to it, though there are some significant differences.
｡˚○The white color also associated with cleanliness. Together, the bluegreen, pink, and white are reminiscent of the trans flag!
｡˚○The white part of the flag can also be replaced with the flag of whatever someone is recovering from. For example, a healing radqueer would replace the white with the radqueer flag.
Stances
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TLDR; The most important being the first three and the very last, which can be understood by just reading first sentence of each respective paragraph.
｡˚○Cleanqueer is Anti-Harassment. Cleanqueer believes it is wrong to tell someone to get assaulted, hurt themselves in any way, or that they deserve bad things happening to them for any reason.
｡˚○Cleanqueer is empathetic to Proshippers, Radqueers, and adjacent communities. Cleanqueer understands that most people in these communities are vulnerable people who were groomed into these communities and have addictions to this content, and acknowledges how isolating and harmful these communities are. That said, cleanqueer is NOT supportive of those who have knowingly harmed others in extreme cases such as grooming and rape.
｡˚○Cleanqueer understands that Pedophilia, Zoophilia, Necrophilia, and other harmful Paraphilias that involve non consenting individuals are disorders, are involuntary, and that people who have them ALL deserve help. That being said, it does not believe in forced institutionalization unless absolutely, 100% necessary (not everyone who expresses a disorder should be legally forced into an institution, however if someone is actively harming others, there is not another option).
｡˚○Cleanqueer believes in rehabilitative justice, even for people who have committed the worst crimes imaginable, because no person deserves to be dehumanized in the way the modern prison system does. Justice should be focused on keeping dangerous people out of society and helping people be ready to go back into society rather than just punishment.
｡˚○Cleanqueer believes in rehab for addicts of all kinds and free healthcare including mental healthcare.
｡˚○Cleanqueer is anti censorship, but acknowledges that no material is exempt from criticism, often says something about the author, and can be extremely harmful.
｡˚○Cleanqueer is anti suicide ideation and anti ED ideation. Cleanqueer is empathetic to people in these types of communities as well.
｡˚○Cleanqueer is (obviously) anti T.R.A.S.H. However, we are empathetic of minors/vulnerable people who believe those things due to their parents, peers, and internet rabbit holes. Cleanqueer is also pro youth rights.
｡˚○Cleanqueer is pro contradictory labels such as Lesboy.
｡˚○Cleanqueer believes that people can change for the better.
Cleanqueer’s primary goal is being a safe place for people healing from proship, radqueer, and adjacent communities. It also serves as an alternative term to antiship or antiradqueer, as those terms were made by those communities to separate themselves from criticism and describe anyone who criticizes them.
The name doesn’t mean “clean” in the sense that these people are “dirty,” but, since it’s a recovery label, in the sense that one is “clean” from something like alcohol, porn, or self harm.
I made the flag using a free template from tumblr, a traced stock image, and free ibis paint assets (the bubbles in the background, which are optional).
Some are racist (transblack, transjapanese, etc), some are ableist (transautistic, transADHD, etc),
ALL, YES ALL, are TRANSPHOBIC, a transid is something you dont have/are not that you want to ‘transition’ into having/being. Disabilities are not something you can transition into having, race (dont argue w me abt this i promise ik more than u) is not something u can change/transition into being different. Being transgender is valid because gender and how society mostly perceives it is a social construct. Gender is technically not real, thats why you can change your gender, thats why you can perceive yourself as any gender.
If you would like to have an INSIGHTFUL, non argumentative, conversation about race or racism or a related topic, my dms ARE open. Ok? Ok.
even “non harmful” ones like trans silly or trans bunny or things like that, are still harmful because they support those other identities indirectly (and are pretty transphobic, considering it’s a misrepresentation of what being trans is. Just use neogenders guys it’s the same thing but without the evil)
It's disgusting how predators use the fear tactic of "If you're against us, then you're against LGBT" or claim that "If proship content gets banned then all LGBT content will be banned".
Ironically this narrative is extremely detrimental to LGBT rights because it gives far right voices the fuel they need to validate the false ideology that all LGBT people are predatory.
You people are literally contributing to the thing you're accusing others of doing.
What better excuse would a n*zi have to outlaw LGBT rights than to have a narrative that they're all into p*do, zoo, or other filth? It's also hilarious because a TON of far right losers are proshitters too. Same excuses from them as well. "Puritan, you're trying to attack straight men!". Same shit, different color.
Stop using marginalized people to validate your sickness.
Turns out "censorship" is only an issue when predatory deranged freaks are "targeted".
It's also BS that they always use the "you don't care about victims" statements, when they constantly harrass and threaten victims or tell them "your trauma doesn't concern me". Or worse, they romanticize trauma of REAL people for their sick addiction. It's literally the "no one cares for you or understands you" tactic that most abusers use.
Predators have used these tactics for ages, and each time it ended with the same demands. They'll keep pushing the bar lower for more extreme behavior until they get their way, which is why there should be no tolerance for any predatory behaviors or the normalization of it ever.
when i read through proshipper arguments, there's one thing that really pisses me off
"you mean DARKSHIPPING not PROSHIPPING!! proshipping just means anti-harrassment!!" (paraphrased)
and yes, on a base level -- they are right. if you look at their definitions, proshipping is different from darkshipping.
however.
definitions change over time, and i feel (emphasis on feel; this is just a hypothesis of mine) this is incredibly evident with the term "proshipping" as it is today as a whole.
its so hard to tell when someone means "proshipping" in an anti-harrassment way or a "i think romanticizing abusive/incestual/pedophilic ships is fun and okay :333" way. the line between darkshipping and proshipping has gotten so blurred from what i've observed.
which is a part of the reason i cannot support them. willingly aligning yourself w/ people who romanticize abusive ships -- even if that isn't the entirety of the community -- is not good, actually. sure, you could say the same about anti-proshippers and how they "align" themselves with ppl who actually DO harrass people. however, i feel like anti-proshippers do fairly well at condemning active harrassment from other antis when it comes to light. we sure as hell could be better, though. but of course, its much harder to do so than it seems.
As a Japanese person who was born and raised in Japan, I hate when people claim that Japanese people support lolisho, I’ve seen ppl on both sides claim the same thing and honestly it all feels insanely racist
Just because manga artists are creeps and lolisho is common in anime does NOT mean that every single Japanese person supports it, in fact the majority of the population thinks it’s disgusting. If you didn’t already know, Japan has a major SA problem, and it’s to the point where phones HAVE to have the flash on them due to creeps taking photos of girls and women. To blame the entire population of Japan, or claim that they support these actions is ignorant and racist.
Im someone with high support needs, and imitating us is gross. I really don't like this. I havent felt a level of disgust at a radqueer post that I am feeling now.
My disability is suffocating. People treat me horribly because I struggle with basic tasks. I've been othered and babied my whole life because I struggle with sensory issues and periods of nonspeaking (in which I didnt start speaking until I was 7)
Speaking of me being a nonverbal child, I also faced ableism from the medical industry. Our insurance refused to pay for an ACC device, nor could my mother set one up (plus the software is very expensive). So I NEVER had a voice during those 7 years
I have empathy for radqueers, I understand most are struggling, and usually minors. But that doesn't make me any less upset about what they are doing. They are old enough to know better
