Wow, okay folks! Hey there! Anti Endo Safe Space was not a blog we ever thought we'd post from again, especially after we deleted the account because we were so tired of harassment (the amount of gore that got sent to our inbox is horrifying).
For those of you who don't know
Hi! This is the return of an old blog that was deleted a while ago. And by a while ago, I mean over a year ago. At the very minimum that long, we have issues with passing of time due to, well, system.
We're a system, we aren't naming who we are for safety reasons. We ran this blog once upon a time, we were the O.B. as we will call it, or original blogger. (If you don't want to believe us, @antiendovents could probably tell you, hi it's us again!!)
We originally made this blog and are remaking it to offer a safe space for anti-endo's. Anti's are quite honestly under a ton of harassment. We have a friend who created their own anti-endo blog and within 2 days were being harassed. So, we want to give people a space where they can vent, they can ramble, they can do whatever they want.
So, here's what you can do!
1. Rant
2. Vent
3. Ramble
4. Send memes
5. Send stories
6. Really anything you want! Just as long as you are anti-endo
Our DNI, BYI and our reasoning for being anti-endo is below the cut so, feel free to click on and read up! Before that, however, are signoffs people have.
-🗡️🐦 sys
-🪩❄️
-😈⛪
-⚠️📼
-🃏🪲
-🪐👾
-🔥🧷
-🪷
-⚙️💉
-🪐🦅
-🪽🖋️
-🕷️⭐
-🥀+⚔️
-📿🌌
-🌮💥
-🌌🪽
-🖤🗡️
-👁🗨♠️
-⭐️💡
-🦴🫀
-🧺🪵
-☀️🌧️
-👁️🗨️🥀
-🌺
-Foxxez Den System🦊
-🐦⬛🪦
-💎🌈
-⛪✝️
-🧸🐾
-💌💥
-⛓️🪽
-🃏🪲
-🌿🗡️
-🤍🖤
-🎪♟️
-bloody carousel system 🩸🎠
-🌟🐦🔥
-🐑🖤
-🌐💀
-📘❤️
-✨🔭
-🔪🩷
-🍯☕
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Here's our reason for being anti-endo
Once upon a time, we were actually pro. We'll admit that was once a part of our life. However we started to realize something, something that can be seen as well when we went down a venture of trying to learn more about endos to see if potentially we were wrong.
Systems, or those with different headmates/alters/whatever you want to call them, are inherently dissociated states. That's not from worshipping the DSM-V as I'm sure we'll be told.
Even if they weren't, there is so much that happens with endos that at this point, has to be mocking. We have looked through pluralpedia, not to try and harass or invade. How are we to learn anything without any potential exposure?
Animegenic for systems that are related to anime? Coldgenic for how systems can form? Not cold as in like hypothermia but just being cold? Endogenic by spite? Genics I'm not about to say because they contain literal slurs? There is absolutely no sort of excuse for those except at this point literally mocking people with CDD's
Let's not forget something else. There are some very vocal and very loud pro/endo's who full blown believe that if you have a CDD, your not a "real" system. That DID and OSDD aren't inherently disorders. That they shouldn't be medical. That is purely and utterly ableism under the disguise of "wanting to be more inclusive" and say that if you disagree, you are a piece of shit.
We have even more reasons for being anti-endo, but this is literally paragraph 5 of us trying to explain why we're anti, not including our little paragraph talking about how we once were pro. Here's the thing, that was back before it became what endos are today.
Now that we have that out of the way, here's our BYI
1. We block liberally. If you want to send us harassment or be toxic, we can and will gladly block you.
2. We typically use we/us when referring to us. On occasion, we will say I/me. However it's not a guaranteed thing.
3. We do not support any form of harassment. Harassment is never good, no matter what side you are on. That should be common decency.
4. We do curse a lot.
5. We do not allow the use of slurs either in asks, memes, or anything like the such. We don't use them, we will not post anything that uses them.
6. We are anti-shipcourse. We ask for no asks on shipcourse, no debating it, we don't want that here.
Here's our DNI
1. Endos
2. Pro Endos or neutral
3. Radqueers or those are pro radqueer.
4. Harassers
5. Syscringe users, we are 100% anti syscringe
6. Anyone who wishes to drag shipcourse into this account. This is not the time or place for this
7. Anyone who uses AI or is pro AI. AI is harmful and theft
8. Polyminds
9. Pro polyminds or neutrals
As for now, welcome back folks who remember us from before, and hello to the new folks. We have returned and are back to this. Antiendosafespace is back to business
Unfortunately, we have actually managed to find an anti-endo blog that we needed to block < user is anti-endo-boosfer >
We hate that we had to, but their stances on trans species were genuinely so distasteful. While I don't like making posts on other aw verse people, telling someone that finds comfort in the trans species label that it isn't valid and isn't real is wild. Identifying yourself as trans species isn't harmful in the slightest.
In fact, the trans species label originated FAR before the transids and radqueer shit. It was never a transid, and it never will be. It's an alterhuman term that was taken from otherkins / therians and turned into something that was gross. It has created much stigma around people who use it, and I feel sad about that.
When met with a genuine question on why it matters if a therian feels more comfortable with that label, they responded with 'you cannot physically transition into another species' which feels gross, to say the least. It's ignorant and honestly feels a bit transmed-ish, implying you need to transition to be valid. Which isn't true.
Some of us genuinely identify with the trans species label, and I think it's gross to imply we need to be able to physically transition into whatever species we are connected to to be valid in the label we chose for ourselves. I hope they can learn and mature as a person.
- Vi, a trans species werewolf
Not the anti-willo verse (although I love all of you, you're all amazing) but
Trans species is not something inherently bad. That's something that a group of idiots stole and the idea of "you can't transition to it so it's not valid" is a lot along the lines of "you're not transitioning genders so you aren't valid"
What are your thoughts on "endos" that people form purposely to cope with trauma? As in, the brain hasn't formed the alters themself but the person formed the alters intentionally as a means of coping with past trauma.
Okay so, I've had this ask in the inbox since December 10. As we answer it, it's 4:50 PM on May 27. So, it's been several months because every time I see it, I hope this is a joke ask
What do you mean "well the brain didn't cause the alters, the person did!"
I'm convinced this has to be a joke ask or some sort of "hey let's trick them into saying something!" because there's no way this is a real question
one of our early signs of being a system was our mom thinking we had catatonic seizures (? is that the right word. the blank ones) but no! Dissociation
I believe those are called absence seizures (I could be wrong since I do not have them, but that's what Google says (specifically the Epilepsy Foundation) If we are please correct us) but that's literally something we've heard before. That someone's family thought they were having a seizure because they didn't know it was dissociation
Our family believed we were constantly daydreaming because of what was dissociation, although no one at the time knew (I actually got in trouble with teachers for it....which is now a moment of "oh..sorry teachers")
SYSTEMS WITH NPD , ALTERS WHO ARE SYMPTOM HOLDERS RELATED TO NPD RELATED SYMPTOMS N SHIT TOO , SYSTEMS WHO SUSPECT NPD OR HAVE NARCISSISTIC TRAITS ON TOP OF ANOTHER PERSONALITY DISORDER YALL ROCK AND DESERVE BEING TREATED WITH DIGNITY AND RESPECT ANYONE WHO IS WEIRD ABOUT PEOPLE WITH PERSONALITY DISORDERS IS WEIRD N SHIT yo guys wjo was that uuhhh ummmm flies past SYSTEMS WITH NPD GET BEHIND ME (awesome as fuck guy who saves people and is awesome and funny as well) GRRRRRRAAAAAAHHHHHGGGGGGGHG
HONESTLY!
Anyone with NPD, NPD symptoms, Narcissistic traits, y'all are awesome! You do not deserve the hell people cause and you all are amazing and awesome and great and deserve everything great!!
PwNPD, NPD symptoms, Narcissistic traits deserve better than the hell people cause online
I'm honestly feeling so unsafe and irritated with all the endos I see lately. Why are the "make posts pro endo" blogs harassing people now????
A few months late but honestly it's because they can and they got cheered on. I'm pretty sure some of the worst of the worst ended up getting banned by now but holy crap it was horrible
"Endos aren't harming anyone" I know I can't be the only system who gets triggered AF by endos behaviors and the things they say. I can't go on tumblr much because of it. To have an entire community of thousands of people that actively mock and fetishize the suffering I went through that made me permanently disabled is extremely triggering.
Endos quite literally caused several splits because of the things they do. The things they said and sent to us in the past. Even just a small thing, there is a literal post mocking our blog name (back when it was anti-endo-safe-space instead of antiendosafespace (I don't know why I got rid of the dashes, I just did)) literally was mocking people with speech impediments (which! We have! We literally have a stutter and have since we were a little kid! We literally have a speech impediment with several letters!!)
Not every endo harms someone explicitly. They push abliesm by being endo. Which is harmful. Several are mocking and fetishizing a disorder that comes from childhood trauma. My childhood is not your desire.
why are those "making this post pro endo" accounts back and in full swing again... i'm sick and tired of seeing it like what if you didn't interact with the anti endo community and left us alone ??? 😒
So this is back from February but ong why were they back and everywhere? I know some posts we've made got "made pro endo" and it's like....no I still am anti. You didn't make anything pro endo you were just bothering those who want to be left alone
what’s your take on the claim that non traumagenic systems are proved by medical documents such as the DSM-5? for example, the line “D. The disturbance is not a normal part of a cultural or religious practice” from the diagnostic criterion of DID in the DSM-5
My take is that the claim is quite literally trying to cherry-pick something to prove ableism. It's no different to us then those who take criteria for something and try to pull "well, it said that it DOESN'T include this so clearly this is true!"
Here's how we take it.
There are several cultures (especially with indigenous groups (I do want to make it known, I am not indigenous anywhere. If I am incorrect, please feel free to correct me)) that use/have used drugs such as Datura, Peyote, Ayahuasca, mushrooms, LSD, Psilocybin and more as part of their practices. Those drugs can cause people to lose their sense of identity, and some (like Datura) can last long after the intoxication ends. That can cause someone to experience things similar to a system.
To me, that's an example of what it means. Cultures that believe that you can be possessed by a spirit and have them take control of your body, can have them live, does not make them a system and is another thing I believe that can be.
I have never seen anyone from any sort of culture or religion that actually has things like that claim to be related to a system. What I have seen is a lot of people (especially white people, and I'm saying this as someone who isn't much darker than a literal piece of white printer paper (I don't go in the sun really and am naturally very pale)) with 0 ties to the culture/religion claim that. For example, people with tulpas.
Hey I have a question, what is shipcourse? it’s okay if you don’t want to answer I’m just curious cus I looked up the word I’m asking about and it gave me something about like boats and stuff…
So, today's going to be a lapse in posts (apologies, my families house is being moved around some) but, I wanted to respond to this. So, tw for shipcourse (no sort of stances put here because we don't do shipcourse here)
So, ships. Fandom slang for relationship. There's drama associated with them, specifically where you stand on something. You have a stance called proship, meaning you have the thoughts of "ship and let ship". That includes any ship whatsoever, even if illegal (i.e. like a minor and adult), toxic (abusive, age gap, controlling, the ships of one partner being homicidal if someone even looks at their partner) etc. That doesn't mean they agree with those ships, just that they think that trying to control what should and shouldn't exist is censorship.
Then you have antiship. That's a stance that believes if it's illegal, if it's unhealthy, if it's toxic, it shouldn't be written (some argue it should even be illegal, from what little we've seen that's not a major thought though). A lot see those "bad" (bad is in quotes because I'm not taking a stance, if you believe it's bad then cool. If you believe it's fine, cool.) as mocking trauma survivors.
Then you have those who are neutral, which they have the thoughts of "hey I don't really have a stance one way or another", although they can lean more on one side depending on the context. Then you have one's like us who just think shipcourse is stupid as a whole and want left out of it all. Hence the whole ban on shipcourse asks (which. We've got some that are purely focused on a shipcourse stance. We delete those, and any sort of comments on this debating shipcourse is going to be deleted. I ask you all have the basic common decency to not break into arguments over shipcourse in reblogs or anything
Both sides of shipcourse have issues. You have people on the anti side who have full blown bragged about sending very illegal things to ask boxes of proshippers. You have proshippers who have bragged about writing fanfiction about antishippers in the ships that they detest. Both sides have bad apples. Both sides have a history of harassment.
Some blogs have made their stance on shipping known, especially CDD related ones because of trauma survivors. We don't welcome shipcourse at all. The closest you'll ever get to a stance is it's stupid, we won't participate in it, both sides suck ass leave me be. (Apologies if that came across nasty or anything, it wasn't intended to. We're in a flare up with our physical disability)
So, crash course on shipcourse. I left some shit out like whatever the fuck "darkship" is. Idk, I don't participate in shipcourse and want to know as little as possible about all of it because we find it a pointless argument that no one will truly ever win
hi we’re new here ! I would like to clarify we are not a polymind in any manner.
Are polyminds that don’t try to invade system spaces or actively compare their experiences to systemhood welcome, or are you completely anti-polymind in the sense that they’re all not welcome whatsoever?
This is just out of curiosity, and I’m so sorry if you’ve answered something like this before. (If you have, I’d love if you were able to link it to us as well )
Hi so we are completely and utterly against polyminds. https://www.tumblr.com/antiendosafespace/802330782211407872/this-is-part-4-of-our-analysis-and-explanation-on?source=share
This explains the majority of why because with folks who use those terms, rather or not they intend to, they are making it a one-for-one comparison with systems
Thank you for coming after this question with respect adn without being rude!! (also after is not the right word but for some reason we can't actually think of the proper word, I blame it on the fact I'm pretty certain our autoimmune condition is getting extremely close to a flare (RA is my enemy istg))
I linked your resource on what endos are to an anti endo server (not a system related server tho, and they have removed proxy bots from the server since this incident) and a mod said in response, “I will say, perhaps take this user with a grain of salt looking at their history and also, tumblr isn't the best source. Otherwise, it would be a good explanation
(Not a system, just skeptical about the source)”
And then after
“Looked further and yeah, I'd stay away from that blog because it is unfortunately a hate blog with slivers of truth
Just be careful with tumblr guys ^^”
I’m slightly confused where they could have got that you’re a hate blog from
You know...I'd like to see where we're a hate blog. Is this becasue we're against endos and have spoken bad on them? Because they have legitimately traumatized people (have led in the past to us having multiple splits) and we feel that people have the right to be angry. We make a point for this to not be a hate blog and have space away from others
Part of me wonders if they've seen some posts that pro/endos have made on us (there have been a few very mocking ones that, quite honestly, just make us laugh) that called us hate blogs or accused us of bigotry (specifically for being anti endo)
(Which. @kcollective hi it's been 2 years but i'd like to thank you for defending our blog from a deactivated blog that was mocking us. It may have been small but that part of calling out it was pure ableism helped us get the courage back to open this blog again, so, thank you!)
being a polymind has nothing to do with being a system, its not endogenic and its just giving names and identities to your subpersonalities. they dont use system terms and hopefully dont go into system-only spaces, its an entirely different experience
this is all a genuine question and not meant to hate btw !
Hi, so! Back in December, we made a 4 part series on why we're anti polymind, and have answered similar asks as to why.
https://www.tumblr.com/antiendosafespace/802330782211407872/this-is-part-4-of-our-analysis-and-explanation-on?source=share That is our mega post on why, and it's a stance that is not budging
Also !!! Damn we need to start telling people to look into other dissociative disorders like dpdr to at the very least introduce em to the topic of dissociative disorders because like do you ever just see people who suspect they deal with a dissociative disorder trying to look into cdds and not fitting in these boxes and like ehueyueyeuheyeuyehyu idk how to explain
I'm like bro whenever i see a friend suspect dealing w dissociation or cptsd symptoms im always thinking to myself damn i hope they dont have to deal with did like ykwim? When people talk about symptoms like these i always get them to look into dpdr because its easy to introduce and understand and i also don't risk having them discover they're a system without being ready which would leave them to be in an undafe mental state i think -🌌🪽
There are so many people who forget disorders like DPDR exist (what we were actually diagnosed with by a therapist before he helped us with syscovery) and everyone mostly ever talks about systems when it comes to dissociation. There are more disorders than CDD's out there which people forget especially whenever they think they could have a dissociative disorder like.
Seeing a rise in endos saying you can be ableist to non-disabled people and we’re just sitting back and enjoying the free entertainment that we’re getting here. There’s genuinely no way these people are being dead serious and not just ragebaiting because how tf are you going to say something so fucking stupid with such confidence. I’m actually tearing up this is hilarious
- Sincerely, The bloody carousel system. 🩸🎠
Okay, so the amount of endos who claim people are being ableist to them is infuriating (and slightly hilarious), but I do want to point something out. They are right that there is a group of anti's who are being ableist, just not to endos.
Calling every single endo delusional is ableism to those with delusions. It is pushing a stigma that delusional people are rude or mean or want to be ableist. Delusion is also used as an insult by those groups of anti's which is ableism. I know that's seen as a really controversial thing somehow but I do agree with that part being wrong and messed up.
what is with polyminds spreading misinfo about basic psychology.... and how is them calling non polyminds "monominds" not them implying that theyre multiple. i really dont get it.
[ - 🗡️🐦 sys ]
I seriously don't get it. With our laptop down we've been trying to avoid polymind shit (because it is usually very infuraiating so we have cat videos playing on the side whenever we learn anything about them) but seriously, the monomind stuff implies they're multiple
