I hate grandice sh*t. THEYRE NEVER GONNA DATE, GET OVER IT. They think just because theyâre acting like they love each other that theyâre soulmates in real life. It makes me so pissed.
Haha.

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@antiwestallenstans
I hate grandice sh*t. THEYRE NEVER GONNA DATE, GET OVER IT. They think just because theyâre acting like they love each other that theyâre soulmates in real life. It makes me so pissed.
Haha.
i do want iris die. im not a racist. i do not support incest.
If you have to state youâre not racist when no one accused you of being one, more than like you ARE one.Â
and anon, we donât know what wanting iris to die have anything to do with incest. perhaps google the definition of incest? google is free, you know.Â
Maybe if you didn't accuse everyone of being a racist who doesn't like Iris or Westallen the topic of racism would never be brought up
HI, but westallen is incest
hi, so weâre gonna answer this for the first and last time. hopefully you understand, even if after nearly 5 seasons of the flash and you canât comprehend canon.Â
barry & iris were best friends before he had to live with them. irisâ dad took in her best friend when his mom died so he had a place to live. barry has always had a crush on/be in with iris since before living with her & joe. giving your best friend a place to live for 8 years isnât a horrible thing.Â
if you donât believe me here is a gifset to remind you of canon. x
Is this a Flash fan blog or just a fake one masquerading as a Candice, Iris and Westallen stan blog? That is all you post. Stop acting like you are a fan of the show when you arenât
Everytime someone says WA is a healthy relationship cause they are not related I wonder what they would say about Woody Allen marrying his adopted daughter. Are they ok with that too? đ
We can theorize all we wish, but in the end, thereâs no way of understanding people who have such a poor grip on reality. Itâll just give you a headache while they carry on being insane. Donât let them control you like that.
Season 4 is coming. And please stop the unnecessary fighting both of the fandom, guys. We need to calm down and chill. I love you both
Snowbarries: makes a post
WAs: attacks
WAs: makes a post
Snowbarries: stays away
How exactly do SBs create the unnecessary fighting in the fandom?
So, I think thereâs an element of Westallen that needs to be addressed, and thatâs when people call it incest. It isnât, not really, but it still has a really odd, almost incestuous dynamic that can turn some people off to it, and here is why:
Joe calls Barry his son and Barry has called Joe his dad before. Is Joe actually Barryâs dad? No, heâs not, but he has acted like a dad to him. Henry Allen was in prison and therefore wasnât there to raise Barry. So, Barry kind of became Joeâs. This does not mean Joe and Barry are now suddenly related, but it gives them a Father-Son dynamic.
Wally called Barry his brother in season 3. Barry has also wondered in the past what to call Wally. He debated in season two when introducing Jesse to Wally whether to call him his foster brother or his friend, but by now, Iâd say Barry would call Wally his brother. In season two, Wally and Barry still really werenât getting along because Wally was jealous of Barry to an antagonistic degree. But now theyâre calling each other brothers. Wally is also Irisâs brother. Technically Wally and Barry are not actually brothers, but thatâs the dynamic they have begun to adopt.
Now, neither of those two things suddenly make WestAllen incest. WA will never technically be incest, because that is something that is done between two people who are actually related. People have done that in the past between cousins, but usually not brother and sister and it can often result in bad genetics. Barry and Iris would never face this particular problem since they donât have an actual blood relation, however, it can still be seen as an incestuous dynamic that creeps some people out and while itâs not one of the main things that bothers me about WA, I understand why it bothers people and I figured Iâd explain why.
If Iris and Barry had both never viewed each other as siblings, it would probably be okay. But only Barry has never viewed Iris as a sibling. Iris, on the other hand, has referred to Barry Allen as her brother before. She said they were like brother and sister in the very first episode even though they technically werenât, she often said that Barry was like her brother throughout season one, and she said in season two when talking to Wally about how she always wanted a little brother that she and Joe used to call Barry her little brother. And now suddenly sheâs in love with him? I donât know about all of you, but I can see how some people find that really creepy and even gross. While itâs not one of the main reasons why I am anti westallen, I can understand how something like that can turn someone off to a pairing, especially when itâs not something theyâre expecting to see. Itâs not like theyâve tuned into Game of Thrones, a show where you expect incest to happen because everyone is living in an ancient kingdom and trying to keep the bloodline pure so they can control the dragons. To see a relationship like that on the Flash is unexpected and can make some people go, âWhat the hell am I watching?â
The question many people ask is when the hell did Irisâs feelings for Barry change? When she found out he loved her his entire life and loved the idea of that? When she found out he was the Flash? When she found out they were married in the future and on Earth two and therefore it must be âdestinyâ? Would she have ever chosen him if it hadnât been for his being the Flash and âdestinyâ? Does she really love him that way, or is there still a part of her that secretly views him as a brother and sheâs suppressing it? Is that the reason why thereâs such little chemistry between them, because the actress canât get past the former brother-sister dynamic she used to have with Barry while playing Iris? Either way, while it may not be incest, itâs a really creepy dynamic when you actually think about it. Iâve had guys in my life before that Iâve viewed as brothers and that has never changed for me before regardless of how they viewed me. That kind of thing just doesnât change for someone. The idea that it changed for Iris is unrealistic, which makes me think it didnât really. She loves âdestinyâ, not Barry Allen himself.
Just because they don't share blood doesn't make it any less incestuous. Many step siblings would find it sickening the show is romantising step siblings together.
Incest - sexual relationships between people classed as being too closely related to marry each other.
My faith in humanity just plummeted when a WA fan said I have no right to consider myself a person of color, because I don't ship WA, as if that's what defines who I am. I think you can imagine the expression on my face right now.
I think that WA fan needs to get a good hard course in reality, because that is absolutely disgusting of them. They just canât stop proving their shallowness.
Decoding A Snowbarry Shipper
1. Barry is a total stalker! His obsession with Iris is so unhealthy. Their relationship is toxic! Barry would be so much better with Caitlin!
Translation:Â
I thought Barry would give a fuck about Cait during Flashpoint but he completely forgot she existed. Barry loves Iris so much and only her and I wish he felt the same about Caitlin. So Iâm just going to call his feelings towards her unhealthy and fake concern for Iris, a character I despise because the male protagonist loves her and not Caitlin.Â
2. WA has no chemistry! So boring! He and Caitlin have sparks!
Translation:
Iâm going to prove Snowbarry has so much more chemistry than Westallen by using scenes where Barry is looking and speaking to Iris so I can manipulate them in fanvids, edits and etc. Two heterosexual white people that occasionally stand next to each other and sometimes wear similar colors. Thatâs fire!
3. Savitar tried to kill Iris. Itâs so toxic! Barry tried to kill Iris!!! Caitlin didnât help to kill Iris. That was Killer Frost!!
Translation:
I know Savitar is just an evil jealous clone with Barryâs memories but Iâm going to go ahead and pretend heâs actually Barry so maybe I can blow a hole into WA. Of course Iâm going to make sure snowflake Caitlin never has to take responsibility for her own actions in the process.Â
4. The Savitar storyline was completely ruined! They made him soft!Â
Translation:
I thought Savitar was going to fall in love with Killer Frost-Caitlin and they would be King and Queen together but then he melted when Iris touched his face and was jealous of her and Barry. What a fucking softy! I canât believe he was using Caitlin to get Ciscoâs help! I thought he was in love even after he curved her!
5. Iris doesnât deserve Barry!Â
Translation:
The confident, beautiful, female protagonist isnât a nerdy IT chick or a nerdy doctor. She has been chased by Barry and didnât even need to do anything to be loved by him. She didnât earn him! Caitlin has been his friend and his been there for Barry. I canât use Iris as a self insert! I need a harmless and non-threatening woman with him. Also if she were white that would be excellent!Â
6. WA is incest!
Translation:
I love incest. I watch Game of Thrones and ship biological siblings and nephews with their aunts. I know Barry and Iris arenât incestuous but I can use this incest angle as a way to foil WA and if I pretend to be angry about this maybe the show will drop this ship!
7. Barry is so selfish! 3x07 was the best episode of the series!
Translation:
Barry cares more about Iris than Caitlin. He values her life above everyone else including Caitlin. Iris is Barryâs number one priority and it sickens me and makes me uncomfortable. How dare he ask Cait to use her powers? Well technically Cisco suggested it and everyone went along but still! He didnât care when she was turning! Only about Iris! 3x07 he actually remembered she existed! Iâm so mad I thought Caitâs random speech would foreshadow him caring more about her but no it was just foreshadowing him caring even more about Iris everyone else be damned!!!! I HATE HIM! But will he please love Caitlin? Please?
We get a kick out of how much you all love us. Please dedicate more delusional posts to us. We love how insecure you are. We love how racist you are to Grant and Danielle. Pretty please talk about us more. It just proves how ignorant you are. We want our name to trend so thanks for the vote race baiting demons!
G turned off commenting on his IG and I heard he blocked fan accounts. Not sure which fan accounts but lets get real most of them were probably Gr*ndice/WA fan accounts that kept talking shit about his fiancĂŠe. They couldn't let him be happy. He's happy, and even if he isn't (which I don't think is even remotely true) it's not their place to be talking shit about his fiancĂŠe on his posts and specially LA's. They can hope and be delusional all they want as long as they keep it away from G and LA.
I think itâs a blame on both grandice and grantelle shippers. Â
Itâs actually disturbing that people ship Grant with his co stars. Â While we can be WA, SB or another ship, thatâs the show but I noticed that people ship the actors offline ( I think itâs gross SA and EBR are shipped together )
So I donât feel like only one group isnât to blame for GG turning off his comments. Â Stans in the CW can and do take shipping too far. Â
We know it was all Gran*dice and WAs. SBs don't do this.
Why create a blog about a ship you don't like? Why don't you just focus on a ship that you actually like? I just don't understand why you want to spread so much negativity and this negativity is ending up in the Westallen tag btw. How about you just accept that Westallen are going to get married and Snowbarry are never going to happen? Barry and Caitlin don't even have feelings for each other, they're just friends. Stop hating on the show just because your crackship is never going to happen.
How about you worry about yourself and donât worry about people submitting their confessions in a safe spot where you westallen psychos wonât harass them? Â
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Not to mention that anon is lying about the tags. Typical.
lol thatâs what cracks me up. Â I knew someone would come around about it. Â
They should just admit they stalk anti tags
LOL ^^^^
Okay, as someone who stanned Iris from day 1, I have to say that I DESPISE WA. Here is why: I know that since episode 1 we were pretty much conditioned to ship Barry and Iris; I mean the monologue at the beginning of episode 1 is about Barry pinning over Iris. They had a nice friendship and at once I liked them, but since their first interactions, I knew that they just didnât have the chemistry to be anything other than friends. Maybe itâs got a bit to do with the actors (whom I love) just as much as the writing but I hated how we knew since the first episode who Barry would intimately and up with. It kind of ruined any other relationships he had (which were actually fun and interesting) and it pretty much made Eddie a placeholder. Barry was never officially with Caitlin, but I kid you not, as someone who had not read the comics then, I immediately loved their interactions and occasionally questioned if there were some underlying feelings behind their actions. I actually respected that Barry would eventually end up with Iris as much as I didnât like it. However, as someone who LOVED seeing journalist!Iris and csi!Barry, I feel like their relationship came out too forced. As soon as WA came to be Iris pretty much became Barryâs trophy. She actually brings nothing in terms of info or help to the team when sheâs there and we donât even get to see her at her job anymore. That was pretty much what happened in season 2. Now, season 3 was when I was left completely dumbfounded. I mean all the moving in with each other and the proposal, it was so painfully obvious that it was forced! All of their actions throughout that season were having to be about Barryâs selfish decision to go back in time and the team having to fix his mistakes. Besides that, the biggest problem was pretty much Iris dying. Barry pretty much pushed aside his friends and it became the WA show for the entire season. I think that what the writers are doing is unfair to ALL the characters and they need to get their shit straight because there are too many prot holes and inconsistencies. This is pretty much why I hate WA, but I, under no circumstances, am bashing Candice or Grant
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hey if y'all are gonna say that itâs okay to ship adopted siblings BC âtheyâre not actually siblings/familyâ then maybe consider why exactly you think adopted families arenât real families
As someone who has an adopted sibling, I honestly got sick the first time I saw someone use that argument. Adopted families are real families and I will physically fight anyone who says otherwise.
Honestly Caitlin Snow is wrote as a racist character and itâs so obvious sometime.
She actively tried to help Savitar to kill Iris, a black woman. When they instead killed a white man, she apologize⌠For killing the white guy, not trying to kill the black woman.Â
She try to kill Cisco, a latino, at least 3 times in one episode, youâre gonna tell me âYes but if he was white, she would have try to kill him too!!â. Huuu no. When she found Iris disguised as HR, thinking it is really HR, a white man, she doesnât even try to kill him. She just knock him off. Why didnât she try to kill him? Why did she only try to kill the black woman and the latinx man? Why did she only apologize for killing the white man, but not for actively trying to kill to people of colors?Â
In season 2, when they had to found a new âfirestormâ, she rejected Jax immediately. Because he didnât have diploma, he wasnât a scientist. Are we supposed to forget that he lost his chance to go to college because his mom didnât have the money and he lost his scholarship? That she blatantly though that guy who went to college was better than Jax without even trying to get to know Jax? If she had talked to him, she would have know that not everyone is as rich as she is and thatâs why some peoples canât go to college.Â
She decided, all on her own that the guy who seemed charming and smart because he worked in a lab and had a white coat should be Firestorm. And the guy became a real sociopath the moment she gave him powers. I honestly think that the only reason why they caste a black actor to play the other possible firestorm was because this way peoples wouldnât say âCaitlin is racistâ.
I think thatâs why I canât stand her, outside the fact that sheâs bland, useless and uninteresting.Â
Wow
Episode VII: Character That Could Threaten My Ship Is The Worst Human Imaginable.....And She's Also Boring And Has No Personality Because I Said So
How people in the fandom explain this post:
WA: Iris and Barry were a married couple already. That wasnât even a date with Caitlin
Snowbarry: Iris is bored having dinner alone with her adopted brother. Look how happy barry and Caitlin are, they have been through so much, glad they can make each other smile
WA: well snowbarry is not canon, and all snowbarry fan are racist.
Snowbarry: sorry are ship would make the show better âĄď¸âď¸
Yeah westallen is healthy but you know what else it is? Boring as shit
How is their relationship healthy when one half of the ship wants to kills the other and that theyâre basically siblings??
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