……follow the white cloak..
well… this feels…familiar… but not..
interesting…
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……follow the white cloak..
well… this feels…familiar… but not..
interesting…
chapter 5 spoilers
I don’t blame her considering what she’s been dealing with but that decision probably came back to bite her in the ass lol
OK this was a good episode but
Nasuka’s reaction to kurehas death was underwhelming and rushed but expectedly so. there’s only 8 or so episodes left so…. I wasn’t expecting much but like the instant “sorry for blaming you” was just a teeny little bit “ wow you’re not even trying to hide that the show does not care”. You know?
but all that aside, I fucking love the scene in the bar with Fujimi and Odaka and the fight with Catastrophe, that shit could feed me for days.
Also looks like next episode a Sieg ep so that’ll probably be fun
Uh.. yeah that’s all I got. Not a lot to say but pretty good episode, liking the escalation of things and such.
So I’ve been rewatching the sword route and It kinda has me thinking about something.. chapter 5 WR spoilers and predictions below (also this gets long :P)
We have been drawing the connections between it and the weird route since chapter’s 3&4 came out and with good reason.
But the way chapter 5’s weird route played out has me thinking that… the weird route might be…more broken? Than we thought??
Cause up until chapter 5 and a bit of 4. the parallels the sword route was drawing between it and the weird route were pretty clear and it seemed like we were following roughly the same events in order.
✅kill enemies to get stronger
✅ recruit the white cloak (Noelle) and use ice magic to make our way through all the rest of the enemies. Including a blue bird.
And assumedly our next step would be get the shelter key by following Noelle….
But that’s not what happens…
We follow Noelle yes but… she doesn’t lead us to a shelter key or anything… hell we end up missing the shelter key/code we were gonna get this chapter….instead she leads us to the lake and we allow her to force us to enter the lake and effectively skip two chapters.
And like I said that’s not even the only deviation..
Its supposed to go
We kill enemies to get stronger
We get the ice key
We use the ice key to get to white cloak
We follow the white cloak and use the ice key to get the shelter key which uses up both it and the white cloak
And then we kill our friends, more enemies, and use the shelter key to get into the shelter…
Assumedly the ice key is meant be access to Noelle’s house or at least Dess’s room and/or the holidays shelter key. (Could be both since we do use it twice to get the shelter key in the SR)
But either way according to the sword route we’re supposed to use Noelle to get the shelter key…..and then discard her.
But we don’t.
We re-equip the thorn ring onto Noelle and.. Thats pretty much it.
we don’t even get a chance to go into Dess’s room, we leave without the holidays shelter key.. and in the next chapter we chapter skip with Noelle, missing out on it.
Now, presumably chapter 6 in the normal route is going to have us, recruit Noelle into our group and then she’s eventually going to allow us to obtain the holiday’s shelter key…..
But if that’s the case, then what’s the point of having so many parallels to weird route in the sword route?
Well my theory right now is that the aborted weird route in chapter 5 is closer to the intended “forbidden path”.. while the weird route as we know it is what happens when we allow Noelle to break the game and follow us into deltarune’s forbidden path past chapter 6.
It’s like taking deciding to go down the evil path in an rpg and then taking an NPC that’s supposed to leave the party or die at some point in the story, skipping the part where they die/leave and glitching them into a part of the game they’re not supposed to be in.
Because by aborting the weird route in chapter 5, we end up avoiding the outcome where Noelle has us skip chapter 6 where I believe the “follow the white cloak” section is meant to take place.
In essence we’d be basically doing the “bad path”, the “right way” by preventing the lake scene from playing out fully.
Now, what does that mean for Noelle in chapter 6’s “forbidden path?” Well….. I uh…
..yeah, I’m gonna keep it a buck Ya’ll, I think Noelle‘s pretty much screwed in anything outside of the normal route..
Like it’s not guaranteed that she’s gonna get killed or.. kill herself per say but I don’t really like her chances…
one way or another I don’t think she’s going follow us into chapter 7’s forbidden path outside of the weird route.
Which would actually make aborted weird route even more fucked up than it already was. We’re already putting Noelle in a terrible mental state and on a path that’ll lead to her getting left behind, but also we’re stopping her from potentially killing herself and Kris, which should be a good thing….except we’re basically only doing it so we can get something out of her and then discard her later…. It’s really fucked up and gross and cruel in a lot of ways.. like telling her “you only get to leave this story on my terms and only once you’ve served your purpose in it.” It’s uncomfortable it’s
Gross and it’s the kind of twisted cruelty that feels particularly abusive and controlling. Which ya know given the route thus far… makes a lot more thematic sense than just letting….Noelle take the wheel so to speak.
That aside though, it would also make the weird route an even more fascinating route in the grand scheme..
The idea that the characters have managed to do something so out the realms of even the intended “bad route’s” parameters that they break out of the route and into something new.. and strange…
I don’t really see that sort of thing worked into stories often and I kinda find the meta side of Deltarunes story fascinating (if not a bit hard to keep up with for my wee little brain)
But at the same time…
I don’t think I need to tell you that breaking a game can come with pretty dire consequences… I mean going into an area with a whole 2 chapter’s worth of equipment, only 2 party members and having to fight even stronger enemies with just what we can find along the way….missing out on key items that’d likely make getting to our ultimate destination easier.. honestly it might end up making it a Herculean task to progress down this route at all.
That’s not even accounting for how the game might punish you and the characters for going through with this chapter skip to begin with.
Sure, you probably escaped some of what the forbidden path was going to make you go through, but who’s to say that treading around in areas you’re not even supposed to be in won’t piss off the powers that be and put you through even worse hells…
After all games have a reputation of being pretty…hostile to players who break the rules a little.. too hard..
Anyway all that to say this is all speculation based on inconsistencies between the Zelda spoof and the “torture your childhood friend route” that I mostly just needed to get out of my brain, but if tricky Tony actually made the only way to get normal bad route of Deltarune require you to arbitrarily stop a worse route midway through so that you can avoid skipping TWO WHOLE ASS CHAPTERS OF A 7 CHAPTER GAME, I’m gonna fucking lose it. Like the audacity of that lmao.
Chapter 5 spoilers
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……follow the white cloak..
well… this feels…familiar… but not..
interesting…
Chapter 5 spoilers
Anime might be real actually. Sorry Undyne. :P
Deltarune chapter 5 spoilers
Been wanting to draw my Deltarune OC Alouette interacting with Flowery for a while now (just saying I low-key called at least one darkner actually acknowledging the moral ambiguity of closing the dark fountains )
I feel like they’d get along decently (well until she gets fed up with the voice lines lol)
You know thinking about it, the darkners in the shelter have to got to be like.. really attached to their personhood and home by now right?
Like, their dark world has more than likely existed for a good while now. Potentially even years, depending on how long ago that particular dark world was created. And considering it’s an emergency shelter there’s probably a variety of things in there, not just like rations and medical supplies and other survival tools, but also probably recreational things like board games, cards, books and other wacky shit.
They’ve gotta have like an extremely varied community in there.
Makes me wonder just what kinds of Darkners we’re going to encounter in that world, and how they’re going to take the prospect of their world being ended by us.
like yeah, most of the darkners we’ve come across seem to take it fairly well, but they’ve only really existed for a couple hours.
last chapters got me thinking about the morality of closing these dark worlds a bit more. (That and like the morality of closing dark worlds is like the focal point of my Deltarune OC so :P)
Chapter 5 weird route spoilers:
That feel when the co-conspirator in your evil(?) plan suddenly FUCKING VANISHES.
Like a lot of people are making theories and shit about the knight and how they might relate to the weird route but imagine if they are completely out of the loop on this shit, like “the fuck you mean my henchmen and my sister(daughter if it carol?) fucking threw themselves into the lake?!? Huh?!? What?!? Why?!??”
Chapter 5 spoilers
Thing I made based on the chapter 5 friend encounter (screenshots from MegamanPsy’s video of the encounter)
weird that none of the other party members seem to react at all to suddenly getting damaged out of nowhere but eh.
still crazy that it actually fucking dealt us damage this time but I can’t help but wonder why.
Did we get too close? Is it because we put our soul in its path? is it after our soul? Is it messing with us? Who knows
I mean, this thing only ever appears in like the darkest areas you can go to in each chapter, so we have to actively seek it out. (With the exception of chapter three’s cutscene and even then it shows up when things are at their darkest)
I get the feeling the next time we do it’s gonna do a lot more than give us a little love tap.
I hope.
I wanna know more about this fucking things deal lol.
Well I wanted things to ramp up and there sure as hell did
NOX CANNOT BE STRAIGHTFORWARD TO SAVE HIS LIFE MUCH LESS ANYONE ELSES OH MY GOD. LIKE DUDE CAN YOU JUST SAY YOUR BLOWING UP THE TECH INSTEAD OF YOU KNOW, BEATING THE SHIT OUT OF BAKU?!!?! DURING AN ATTACK?!?!? I hope the lady gets a satisfying conclusion to her character now that she’s fused with phantom.
it was kind of expected that this was going to happen after everything but it’s still a little sad to see zero go. Bye bike dad. You sucked ass but also you were not exactly in the best position to not suck ass. Nice to see him emotional and proud of Baku though before he went.
also crazy that literally nobody told Nasuka about Kureha like damn. Girl had to find out her girl got executed whilst looking through codes documents instead of from the guy who was LITERALLY THERE AS IT HAPPENED. dude I get it but not cool Baku.
ALSO FUJIMI ACTUALLY HELD HIS OWN AGAINST NOX FOR A BIT DAMN!
kind of neat that catastroms gimmick of needing a strong motivation to function is still a thing, would’ve expected that part to be forgotten like a lot of form drawbacks in rider.
Speaking of catty he is on a damn rampage goodness, bro really said “codes ending TODAY” and blew up several headquarters
anyways, I almost missed today’s episode because I was too busy thinking about Deltarune stuff but at the same time I’m glad I was able to catch it cause this was a really good one!
Until next week good night riders
He’d fucking hate this guy lmao.
so chapter 5 weird and not weird route spoilers
Fucked up of Toby to have the flip sides of chapter 5 be;
“Flower has life breathed into it through unnatural means, creating a being that doesn’t quite fit into the description of a lightner or darkner fully, creating an entirely new and somewhat unique kind of being and he’s absolutely full of passion love and care for the world he’s been born into and all of the people in it, despite the fact that his existence is ultimately fleeting.”
and
“ Two children do something incredibly dangerous in an attempt to leave their home which has felt more like a prison. An action that for one, is motivated by a desire to escape the listless empty and mind numbingly repetitive day to day that she feels that her life atrophied into yet feels a profound powerlessness to do so without help from someone she trusts and wants to rely on and for the other…well it hasn’t been their choice entirely but one can assume there’s a degree of trauma involved underlying some of this?? Idk it’s as vague as it is clearcut.. probably intentionally so…. either way this attempt ultimately ends in both of them seemingly dying in the process.”
Motherfucker was not kidding when he called it undertales parallel story, I just didn’t expect them to parallel the parts we experienced second hand.
(Also gonna say this now I AM DRAWING PARALLELS TO THE CHARACTER AND CREATION FLOWEY + THE DEATHS OF ASRIEL AND CHARA AND CHAPTER 5 , NOT COMPARISONS! THIS IS MEANT BE DRAWING ATTENTION TO HOW THE SITUATIONS IN CHP 5 HAVE NOTICEABLE SIMILARITY’S BUT ARE ALSO FUNDAMENTALLY DIFFERENT AND ALMOST OPPOSITE TO UNDERTALE AND HOW FASCINATING I FIND THAT. THE DYNAMICS CIRCUMSTANCES AND CHARACTERS AND MOTIVATIONS OF FLOWERY KRIS AND NOELLE ARE FUNDAMENTALLY DIFFERENT TO CHARA ASRIEL AND FLOWEY, IM JUST SAYING ITS INTERESTING AND PROBABLY A DELIBERATE CHOICE TO HAVE THESE TWO THING COINCIDE WITHIN THE SAME CHAPTER.)
chapter 5 spoilers
One of those sick mantis darkners that we didn’t even get to fight.
they look like they’d have the most obnoxious but cool looking attack patterns
chapter 5 spoilers
Friends and knives?? Some people really have it all!
I mean come on I couldn’t not draw her right? With my damn username??? Unthinkable.
Chapter 5 intro spoilers
So..was this anyone else during the intro or?