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The general consensus on the movie vs. book versions of Kludd seems to be that, in comparison to the movie, the book version of Kludd was just "born evil" and had little actual motivation to join the Pure Ones. In my opinion, though, the books do show Kludd's motivations--it just isn't shown as obviously because books 1-6 are mostly in Soren's perspective.
Additionally, what I find really interesting about book Kludd is that his primary drive to join the Pure Ones isn't because of Soren--it's because of Noctus.
Chapter 1 of The Capture is Soren's earliest memory, which is Eglantine's hatching. This means that Soren did not witness and/or does not remember how Noctus and Marella treated Kludd before that. In Soren's memory, his parents are always loving and kind. However, we do see in this chapter that Noctus hits Kludd after Kludd mouths off at him while branching. While the books were written during a time where physical punishment for children was more normalized, this interaction is still indicative of how poor their relationship is, given that (as far as I can remember) we never see another parent physically harm their child other than Nyra.
(It's also during this chapter that Mrs. P says that Kludd is "un-owlish," which seems to imply that Kludd was born evil, but we'll come back to this.)
In The Siege, we get a few chapters in Kludd's perspective. Chapter 17 in particular gives some insight into how Kludd sees his own upbringing, and some events that Soren doesn't recount in his perspective.
We see that Kludd, from a young age, has a love of battle claws: "Kludd had seen a Barn Owl fly by with battle claws... His gizzard had trembled with such excitement, he thought it might pop. For days, that was all he could talk about," yet Noctus forbids all talk of battle claws. At this point, Kludd's interest in battle claws is mostly harmless; it's Noctus's strict shutdown of Kludd's interests that cause his anger to grow and fester.
Even when the St. Aggie's raids start and it would make sense to get a pair of battle claws to defend the hollow, Noctus continues to forbid even speaking about them. While it's ultimately Noctus's choice as the parent to get a pair of battle claws or not, this decision prevents Kludd from exploring his interests in a safe and controlled way and builds resentment between the two of them, which creates an opportunity for Kludd to be groomed by Nyra and the Pure Ones.
Kludd also says that "he had hatched into the wrong family. He was so different from them all." I'd argue, though, that children aren't born feeling like they don't belong in their families; they're made to feel that way. Noctus's constant shutting down of Kludd, even for something as (relatively) harmless as talking about battle claws, makes him feel ostracized from the rest of his family. This rift between him and his father, again, is what makes Kludd vulnerable to being groomed and indoctrinated.
Here, we also see that in the books, Kludd views Soren as an extension of Noctus: "Soren was so much like his father... It drove Kludd mad." Unlike the movie, where Kludd's hatred of Soren is based in jealousy and insecurity about his own abilities and worth, Kludd in the books uses Soren as a proxy for his hatred of Noctus. When Kludd looks at Soren, he sees a reflection of his father, which drives his hatred for them both.
This chapter also gives us insight on Kludd's indoctrination into the Pure Ones and his relationship with Nyra. Nyra is the first one to even try understanding Kludd. The Pure Ones, unlike his father, engage with him and encourage his interests, allowing them to indoctrinate him more easily.
Kludd says "[Nyra] loved him more than his family ever had." Of course he feels that way; while his father makes him feel as though he was born wrong, Nyra not only nurtures Kludd's interest in battle claws and transforms it into a love for violence, but she also tells him that his hatred towards his family is right and should be acted upon. She validates his feelings and rewards him for his anger. This drives the wedge between Kludd and his family even deeper, leading to the events of the book as we know--Soren being pushed from the nest, Eglantine getting kidnapped, and Noctus and Marella's deaths.
Lastly, in this same chapter, Nyra says that "She had picked him out when he was just a nestling." Soren never mentions any memories of Nyra or the Pure Ones, which implies that Nyra met Kludd before he even started branching, since Kludd is pre-branching at the time of Eglantine's hatching. When Mrs. P says that it seems like Kludd has "un-owlish" about him, I interpret this as him having been indoctrinated so early on that it seems like he'd always been that way.
While he's not portrayed in as sympathetic of a light as his movie counterpart, the book version of Kludd was not born evil either. He was a child with unconventional interests who craved the love and validation that he wasn't getting from his parents, and that left him vulnerable to the Pure Ones.
TLDR; all of this could have been avoided if Noctus had gotten that pair of battle claws (probably)
I've always thought that Book Kludd's theme was also partly "I only like true stories." Since he can't believe in legends, he can't parse out good from evil, and if a nazi witch queen tells him "the truth," he can't tell if he's being lied to or not. ("Glaux bless you for your belief in legends," his son says to end a book after joining the good guys. This is clearly a major theme.) So his father, who tells legends of noble defenders but won't take the steps to defend the family, now looks like an impediment and a fuzzy dreamer. It was never gonna end well.
(My first book was book 4, so I always read more depth into Kludd than perhaps the other books warrant.)
The general consensus on the movie vs. book versions of Kludd seems to be that, in comparison to the movie, the book version of Kludd was just "born evil" and had little actual motivation to join the Pure Ones. In my opinion, though, the books do show Kludd's motivations--it just isn't shown as obviously because books 1-6 are mostly in Soren's perspective.
Additionally, what I find really interesting about book Kludd is that his primary drive to join the Pure Ones isn't because of Soren--it's because of Noctus.
Chapter 1 of The Capture is Soren's earliest memory, which is Eglantine's hatching. This means that Soren did not witness and/or does not remember how Noctus and Marella treated Kludd before that. In Soren's memory, his parents are always loving and kind. However, we do see in this chapter that Noctus hits Kludd after Kludd mouths off at him while branching. While the books were written during a time where physical punishment for children was more normalized, this interaction is still indicative of how poor their relationship is, given that (as far as I can remember) we never see another parent physically harm their child other than Nyra.
(It's also during this chapter that Mrs. P says that Kludd is "un-owlish," which seems to imply that Kludd was born evil, but we'll come back to this.)
In The Siege, we get a few chapters in Kludd's perspective. Chapter 17 in particular gives some insight into how Kludd sees his own upbringing, and some events that Soren doesn't recount in his perspective.
We see that Kludd, from a young age, has a love of battle claws: "Kludd had seen a Barn Owl fly by with battle claws... His gizzard had trembled with such excitement, he thought it might pop. For days, that was all he could talk about," yet Noctus forbids all talk of battle claws. At this point, Kludd's interest in battle claws is mostly harmless; it's Noctus's strict shutdown of Kludd's interests that cause his anger to grow and fester.
Even when the St. Aggie's raids start and it would make sense to get a pair of battle claws to defend the hollow, Noctus continues to forbid even speaking about them. While it's ultimately Noctus's choice as the parent to get a pair of battle claws or not, this decision prevents Kludd from exploring his interests in a safe and controlled way and builds resentment between the two of them, which creates an opportunity for Kludd to be groomed by Nyra and the Pure Ones.
Kludd also says that "he had hatched into the wrong family. He was so different from them all." I'd argue, though, that children aren't born feeling like they don't belong in their families; they're made to feel that way. Noctus's constant shutting down of Kludd, even for something as (relatively) harmless as talking about battle claws, makes him feel ostracized from the rest of his family. This rift between him and his father, again, is what makes Kludd vulnerable to being groomed and indoctrinated.
Here, we also see that in the books, Kludd views Soren as an extension of Noctus: "Soren was so much like his father... It drove Kludd mad." Unlike the movie, where Kludd's hatred of Soren is based in jealousy and insecurity about his own abilities and worth, Kludd in the books uses Soren as a proxy for his hatred of Noctus. When Kludd looks at Soren, he sees a reflection of his father, which drives his hatred for them both.
This chapter also gives us insight on Kludd's indoctrination into the Pure Ones and his relationship with Nyra. Nyra is the first one to even try understanding Kludd. The Pure Ones, unlike his father, engage with him and encourage his interests, allowing them to indoctrinate him more easily.
Kludd says "[Nyra] loved him more than his family ever had." Of course he feels that way; while his father makes him feel as though he was born wrong, Nyra not only nurtures Kludd's interest in battle claws and transforms it into a love for violence, but she also tells him that his hatred towards his family is right and should be acted upon. She validates his feelings and rewards him for his anger. This drives the wedge between Kludd and his family even deeper, leading to the events of the book as we know--Soren being pushed from the nest, Eglantine getting kidnapped, and Noctus and Marella's deaths.
Lastly, in this same chapter, Nyra says that "She had picked him out when he was just a nestling." Soren never mentions any memories of Nyra or the Pure Ones, which implies that Nyra met Kludd before he even started branching, since Kludd is pre-branching at the time of Eglantine's hatching. When Mrs. P says that it seems like Kludd has "un-owlish" about him, I interpret this as him having been indoctrinated so early on that it seems like he'd always been that way.
While he's not portrayed in as sympathetic of a light as his movie counterpart, the book version of Kludd was not born evil either. He was a child with unconventional interests who craved the love and validation that he wasn't getting from his parents, and that left him vulnerable to the Pure Ones.
TLDR; all of this could have been avoided if Noctus had gotten that pair of battle claws (probably)
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Was working on another analysis and like,,, can we talk about the fact that Nyra was probably groomed by the old High Tyto?????
"She had picked [Kludd] out when he was just a nestling. True, she was older, but what did it matter? She was not that much older. She had been so young when she was with the old High Tyto."
Im gonna be real and admit that my gahoole fixation comes and goes in waves and that I'm just,, not on the wave rn!! I started wheel of time and that and slime rancher are what is currently consuming me. See u guys when it returns! 👋
He needs to be careful with his claws, the cream is too good to make a mess with it. His tasty little cakes will be finished in time for the summer party, the ivy growing into his little kichen from all sides, next to all the trees, make him feel very close to nature and are always a nice inspiration for his next sweet creation...
And another owl finished for the "Crafts-Owls series". The confectioner is a Southern White-faced Owl. I need to make more of these to finally have 12 to turn them into a calendar.
Just finished reading Eye of the World so here have this
Guardians of Gahoole/Wheel of Time au where Digger is Rand and Soren is Perrin and Ruby is Mat (maybe Kludd could be Mat tho 👀) and Nyra is Padan Fain and Otulissa is Egwene
informed consent for medication needs to include interactions with common recreational drugs, i think
most meds these days will only tell you 'limit alcohol' and wont even make a mention of weed (though if this is different in places that have legalised it i'd be interested to know). and they never tell you specifically why you should limit alcohol and thats something everyone should have the right to know
because i was terrified as a teen getting on the meds im on now, thinking i would never be able to drink and that i had to forgo taking my meds for the day if i did. then i learned that all my meds did was to increase the effects of alcohol and that the 'limit alcohol' warning in that case was more just a 'you will get drunk faster than you are used to'
but in other cases, such as with some antibiotics, the 'limit alcohol' means 'if you drink more than a little, this medication will stop working'
and some meds are actively dangerous when taken with alcohol/other drugs, putting you at risk of getting very sick or just dead
but every single time all you get is that little label saying 'limit alcohol'
anyway, i will once again shamelessly promote my favourite harm reduction website in the whole world, the drugs.com interactions checker. standard boilerplate applies that 'this isnt a substitute for medical advice from a professional' but its sure as fuck better than nothing
Stepped on a milkberry (overrripe milkberry) (bareclawed) it was on the ground lighted down from the tree (didnt know it was there) stepped on the milkberry (warm) (on the ground) (it had fallen from the Great Tree) bareclawed (wearing no battle claws) with my long leg fluff (too fluffy) (need to preen it) berry viscera got on them (the feathers) unexpected berry on the ground (hot milkberry) (time of the golden rain) already super hungover (yarping pellets all morning) (should not have been flying at all) and I lighted down from the tree (Great Tree) (time of the golden rain) and onto the berry (unexpected) (i didn't know the berry was there) and it burst (berry nightmare on my clean feathers) still we find ways to keep ourselves going from night to night
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