JIM JEFFERIES HAS GOT GUN CONTROL ALL WRONG
I keep seeing post this video as if it is some kind of rational argument for gun control in America and it is pretty pathetic at best.
I shouldnât even need to give a retort as to why this is wrong almost all the way through, but apparently I do because it keeps getting posted with comments about how iron clad it is and how the pro-gun crowd canât possibly argue against it.
So, with that being saidâŠ
0:11 - âDonât get excited because the other people have guns!â
Right off the bat, Jim suggests that the people in favor of gun control shouldnât get too openly excited because the rest of the crowd has guns. Ah, the old crazy gun owner narrative. Suggesting that people with guns are short fused and will pull out their big scary death machines and shoot you the moment you disagree with them.
Facts, however, disagree.
In my state of Texas, the numbers have shown that people who carry guns actually contribute to less than 1% (roughly 0.7% to be more exact) than the states overall crime. Not just gun crime, ALL crime.
Other states with legal concealed carry have reflected this as well.
0:30 - I support the 2nd Amendment, BUTâŠ
The old played out âI support the 2nd Amendment, BUTâŠâ argument. Itâs like saying, âIâm not racist or anything, BUT [insert extremely racist tirade here]. Anytime I hear someone say something along the lines of âI support your right to own guns, BUTâŠâ Iâm almost always certain that that person actually does not support my right to own guns at all. Itâs a cop out.
Jim claims that there have been zero massacres since Australia banned guns after the Port Arthur massacre. ZERO. Wow, that is an impressive number indeed.
BUTâŠÂ Are you sure about that Jim?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monash_University_shooting
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Hectorville_siege
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cairns_child_killings
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snowtown_murders
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Childers_Palace_Backpackers_Hostel_fire
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quakers_Hill,_New_South_Wales#Nursing_home_fire
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cairns_child_killings
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cairns_child_killings
http://www.news.com.au/national/lockhart-shooting-wagga-wagga-community-reeling-after-hunt-family-tragedy/story-fncynjr2-1227053811861
How the hell did all of these tragedies happen? I thought Australia took all the guns away? I thought massacres donât happen in other countries? I thought it was impossible to commit a massacre without a gun?
Am I missing something here, Jim?
1:15 - Australia is reasonable because they tried gun control, America is ignorant because they refuse to.
I keep hearing people say that we wonât try gun control simply because gun owners are ignorant and love their guns more than human life.
The fact is, WE HAVE TRIED STRICT NATIONAL GUN CONTROL.
Does the year 1994 or the name Clinton ring a bell to anyone? Anyone?
From 1994 - 2004, there were strict national gun control laws in place in America. They included most of the laws that are being proposed now. An âassault weaponsâ ban. Magazine capacity limits. All of that.
IT WAS A COMPLETE FAILURE.
2:30 - Self Defense / Protection is not a valid reason to want a gun.
Iâll just drop all of these off. These are perfect examples that I found in less than 30 seconds on Google.
http://www.buckeyefirearms.org/churchgoer-concealed-carry-permit-stops-man-shotgun
http://www.goupstate.com/article/20120325/articles/120329781
http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2015/06/19/colorado-springs-vs-charleston-the-church-massacre-that-ended-differently-n2014783
http://controversialtimes.com/news/remember-this-sc-concealed-carrier-stops-mass-shooting-during-church-service-zero-casualties/
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/02/19/researcher-reaffirms-at-least-760000-defensive-gun-uses-a-year/
http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/cdc-study-use-firearms-self-defense-important-crime-deterrent
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/category/defensivegunuseoftheday/
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/02/defensive-gun-ownership-gary-kleck-response-115082.html#.VYW1BkZRKdE
And the list goes on and on and onâŠÂ Innocent people use guns every day to defend themselves. Plain and simple.
Fuck off, Jim. What kind of world do you live in that you would need a gun to defend yourself? The real world. Itâs an easy answer.
He then goes on to say, âIs that why theyâre called âassault riflesâ?â Well, hoplophobic liberals like to call them that because itâs a buzzword that stirs up an emotional response. I prefer modern sporting rifles.
Tell me, Jim. If you canât defend yourself with an AR-15, then WHY DOES ALMOST EVERY POLICE FORCE IN AMERICA HAVE ONE?
Furthermore, US Bureau of Justice Statistics show that guns are the safest and most effective means of defense. Using a gun for protection results in fewer injuries to the defender than using any other means of defense and is safer than not resisting at all. The myth that âguns are only used for killing and the myth that âguns are dangerous when used for protection melt when exposed to scientific examination and data. The myths persist because they are repeated so frequently and dogmatically that few think to question the myths by examining the mountains of data available.
2:50 - Having a gun in your house means you are more likely to kill yourself with it because, âsometimes we all get sad.â
Sure, if youâre suicidal.
Gun bans result in lower gun suicide rates, but a compensatory increase in suicide from other accessible and lethal means of suicide (hanging,   leaping, auto exhaust, etc.). The net result of gun bans, however, has shown reduction in total suicide rates. People who are intent in killing themselves find the means to do so. Are other means of suicide so much more politically correct that we should focus on measures that decrease gun suicide, but do nothing to reduce total suicide deaths? Seems pretty stupid.
3:15 - âProtection? I had a break-in in Manchester, England where I was tied up. I had my head cut. They threatened to rape my girlfriend. They came in through the window with a machete and a hammerâŠâ
I find it cute that Jim says no one needs a gun to defend themselves and then presents a real world example of why someone would need a gun to defend themselves.
He then says he wasnât wearing his holster at the time and suggests that you would be crazy to have a gun ready while at home.
Itâs called being vigilante, Jim. It is actually very common for most concealed carriers to wear a holster even at home and all the way up until the moment they go to bed. Why? Because shit happens, Jim. But you know that now.
3:50 - âNone of you give a shit about home securityâŠâ
No? I guess the numerous self defense, home defense, and home security courses that are being taught across the country every day and the fact there is an entire product market geared specifically towards home security just simply donât exist.
https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=home+security
https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=home+defense+course
Iâm starting to think Jim might not have any idea of what he is talking about.
4:15 - Most people breaking in to your house just want your TV
Maybe. Maybe not. I would rather be safe than sorry. What gambles you take with your life is up to you.
I would like to take a moment to remind everyone that home invasions went up in Australia after guns were banned. Maybe because the crooks knew their victims would be unarmed? Nah. Couldnât have anything to do with that.
4:30 - If you have a gun readily available, youâre irresponsible. If you have it in a safe, itâs useless for protection.
Actually, wrong again Jim.
Not everyone has children. Only my wife and I live in my house. We donât have children. Our dogs donât know how to use guns. We both know how to check a gun to see if itâs loaded and we both know that our handguns are loaded at all times. Therefore, it is possible to have a gun readily available and still be responsible.
When we have friends with children over, we unload our handguns, depress the trigger to un-cock, and then keep a loaded magazine in the gun with an empty chamber. We then put our guns in high up places that children cannot get to. A child does not have the strength to rack the slide of a handgun. Without racking the slide, a round cannot be chambered and the trigger cannot be reset. Meaning, there is absolutely no way the gun can be fired. Once again, another example of having a readily available firearm while still doing so responsibly.
But maybe you prefer a safe. Makes your gun useless, right.
There are many handgun safes that can be opened quickly with the swipe of a fingerprint. They keep children away from your gun, can be stored right by your bed, and offer quick access to your gun in a home defense scenario. Many even have mounts so you can lock them to your bed or floor so that they cannot be stolen.
The Liberty HDX-250 Smart Vault is just one example of many.
http://www.cabelas.com/catalog/product.jsp?productId=1929924&type=product&MDK=dynbanP_SL&MDC=cat104369580
6:00 - Teachers cannot be trusted with guns.
Jim, there are already several states in America that allow teachers to concealed carry on school grounds and itâs been working out just fine for them for years now.
https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=teachers+concealed+carry
Furthermore, armed security guards in schools is also already a school. Both my middle school and high school had two each. Worked out just fine.
Jim then asserts than an armed guard will not risk his life to stop a shooting because guards are paid poorly.
https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=school+shooting+stopped+by+armed+guard
Turns out Jim is wrong again.
8:00 - Youâre mad at me because Iâm making good points.
I think Iâve proven otherwise so far, actually.
9:30 - Letâs shit on the Constitution / You can change the 2nd Amendment.
Holy shit. Jim finally said something true. Color me impressed. With a national 2/3 vote, yes you could change or even get rid of the 2nd Amendment.
Until that happens, youâre not doing anything more than just being a crybaby because you canât get your way.
10:10 - Prohibition didnât work.
Itâs cute that the first example that Jim provides for changing the Constitution is that we changed it by ending the prohibition of alcohol. Almost as if prohibition DOESNâT FUCKING WORK.
Does anyone see the irony in this? Heâs bitching about the prohibition of one item to somehow try to support the prohibition of another item. Cute indeed.
10:30 - GUN OWNERS = SLAVE OWNERS
Ah, the old âgun owners are racistâ suggestion.
Oh, Jim. This is just getting sad at this point.
I will say this. It is common knowledge that gun control has deep roots in racism and were originally used to keep free blacks from getting firearms.
But Iâm sure Jim doesnât want to talk about that.
11:30 - The majority of gun owners who are actually responsible SHOULD be punished because of the actions of a few gun owners who are irresponsible.
While weâre at it, letâs ban alcohol and car keys because some people drive home drunk and kill people. Letâs ban pools because sometimes people drown. Letâs ban food because sometimes people choke and die.
He then goes on to say that he loves doing drugs, but drugs are illegal because some people do stupid things when they are high and they have fucked it up for the majority of people that like drugs.
This is funny comparison to me for two reasons.
One. Although drugs are illegal, Jim doesnât seem to have any problems getting them illegally. Which leads me toâŠ
Two. Prohibition doesnât fucking work. When you ban something, it simply creates an illegal black market and makes that item even more dangerous to obtain.
What the fuck makes you think guns are somehow different, Jim?
13:00 - Banning guns will keep guns out of the hands of criminals. It worked in England and Australia.
Yet criminals in England and Australia keep turning up with guns.
Do I really need to say anything more?
Even here in America, places with heavy gun restrictions such as Detroit, Chicago, Los Angeles, Stockton, New York, New Jersey, St. Louis, and on and on andâŠÂ have heavy gun crime.
If banning guns will keep guns out of the hands of criminals, HOW THE FUCK DO ALL OF THESE CRIMINALS KEEP TURNING UP IN THESE AREAS WITH GUNS???
Maybe itâs not working?
14:15 - American mass shooters canât get there guns from the black market.
First of all, yes they could have. Secondly, many of their guns were obtained perfectly legally even after jumping through all of the gun control hoops.
Gun control DID. NOT. STOP. THEM.
14:45 - Guns wonât help you if you have to fight against the government.
Thatâs your opinion. Myself and the founding fathers disagree.
What we do know is that, historically, countries who forced their citizens to hand in their guns found it much easier to turn tyrannical and roll over those same citizens afterwards.