i think if we're talking about transandrophobia there needs to be conversation about how penis creating bottom surgery, and especially phalloplasty, are discussed and received by people, including other trans people. it goes along with societys and the queer/trans communitys obsession with feminizing trans men. the idea that we would even WANT a penis, let alone a "sub par," "fake" penis just proves that we're evil and "mentally ill" people. have yall seen how people, including other trans men, talk about phalloplasty? where people who want or have had phalloplasty can see it? there was a long winded rant on reddit on the "detrans" sub titled "phalloplasty is an abomination," with just loads of hateful rhetoric inside. and thats just OUTSIDE of trans online forums. theres people who are in transmasc/trans man spaces, INCLUDING OTHEE TRANS MEN, who are out here demonizing phalloplasty because they "dont like the aesthetics," "its not advanced," "its experimental," and if you ask them about it it just boils down to that it doesnt behave or look like a cis penis when it can and does (and no, im not counting that phallo dicks may need external or internal erectile devices, cis men get those too and it still gets hard from that. phallo dicks look and act like cis penises). have you seen how people talk to trans men who HAVE HAD phallo? go into the comments section of a creator who has had phalloplasty. "youve mutilated yourself for a flesh tube that can only piss" and "it will never be a real penis." someone personally told my wife "why would you be with a fake man with a fake dick?? at that point go date a real man!!" when she said in the comments section of a video of a trans man who had phallo that shes super excited for me to have it done. beyond that, as a trans man seeking phalloplasty, and specifically phalloplasty with vaginectomy (its more accepted by the wider community if you keep your vagina, but im getting rid of mine) with burial with the idea of just having a cis passing penis, ive definitely had to worry if id be welcome in trans spaces anymore after my surgery, or if id be accepted at all, and not just tolerated, because so many trans people fucking hate phalloplasty so much and you just cant help but worry, especially when youve already been made to feel unwelcome for not feminizing yourself for other peoples comfort as a trans man. all this and phallo cocks are desexualized, people dont want to view them as genitals, they just see trans men with phalloplasty as something not trans, not cis, not a man or a woman, but a failure to conform to femininity, a waste of a woman and a waste of a trans man, as something completely inhuman
