Vanebp

Ella/She/Her - Afrolatine - Lesbian - 30 IWTV - TLW - HR (i read the books) - (+) a little obsessed with david Jonsson at the time

[atlsaints15895]

I am blocking everyone who posts the Harry Potter show. Idc…

[pseudomonaslisa]

book ray is so funny. "pete winked at me. what could he possibly mean by that?" and ranking every walker by attractiveness and "pete blew me a kiss. man, is this guy hard to read or what??"

[de8thm8rt]

omg i hate seeing reductive takes that reduce all of the reasonable reasons why people (esp black viewers) are upset with claudia’s recent portrayal just boiling down to “oh you hate the show where the characters are bad and they do bad things” or “you just can’t handle an evil female character”

no one has a problem with either of those things, like in the first claudia kept a journal just to write down the last words of people she killed and kept souvenirs from them and everyone clapped and cheered

people are upset that a black character who was written in those first two season to be pro-black and a complicated, nuanced relationship with louis be reduced to a one-dimensional  caricature

claudia in the first season compared lestat to a white slave owner and said that he treated her and louis like house slaves but that she would set them both free.

why now, does she barely have any words for lestat and the part he played in the trail instead ALL of her ire is directed at louis

she even says that it was lestat’s blood that made and louis ain’t no kin to her. that’s insane to me, claudia would be mad at louis for everything he’s done but she would never say that when she didn’t even want Madeline to have lestat’s blood in her

and in the second season one of the reasons claudia initially liked and trusted armand was because he was brown like her and louis

now we’re just completely ignoring the role race plays in this show to have her dig into louis while absconding lestat of all blame

the other take i’ve seen is “oh well this happens in the books” yes but in the books claudia is 5 year old little white girl and louis was a white plantation owner, he literally owned slaves. like i think we’re a bit past everything having to be exactly like the books get a fucking grip

and i know for a fact if claudia said half of the things she said about louis to lestat and tore into him people would be singing a much different tune

[kneesocks-hq]

Ray Garraty and his big goofy smile

[reticent-vampire]

And I spend every fucking second of nowhere looking for her. And where is she? Why is she not here with me?

[hinasho]

So much happened in 3x06 that Louis’ nuke of also being a victim of incestual abuse almost slipped past me. Are we suppose to pretend that Louis getting paid by a family member to sexually assault him doesn’t recontextualize literally everything? His view on sexual violence? Why he went into the sex work industry and started running brothels in the first place?

Did none of the other Du Lacs know about this? Was he told not to tell anyone? Or, worse, did his parents know and he was still told not to tell anyone to uphold the illusion of an upstanding family? Does this have any bearing on why he used to be so reserved and tight lipped about his vulnerabilities? Does this add another layer as to why he used to recoil from his own sexuality, beyond the political landscape and his religious upbringing?

Does this play a role in his desperation to be seen as a good son and good brother and overall good family man, after being a victim of incest? And getting paid for it? What effect did this have on the way he views profit and exploitation? On the way he views himself? On the way he bases so much of his identity & self worth on his ties to other people?

Screaming from the rooftops that Louis was paid to be sexually abused by a family member! Was this a single event? Did this happen several times? How old was he??

AM I JUST SUPPOSED TO LET THIS GO??????

[niacart]

In a show full of toxic gay men, it’s the tragic sapphics that I care about 😔

[atlsaints15895]

As a fan of musicals I would say that my main grip with the vampire lestat songs is not that they suck, it’s that they don’t work as musical pieces. Yeah, they can be about certain characters. But something important about musical songs is that they serve to advance the plot a lot of the songs in tvl work as “this is how i feel”, “this is what i want”, “this is what i am”. Which it’s not bad, we need songs like that, but not every song. There are no so no s where the characters start with one point and end with another.

For example the scene where gabrielle sees louis. Lestat gives the diary to louis, but we knew he was angry so there is not a change in lestat an louis. And we could say, “well, gabi meets louis”, but then they added the conversation where lestat explains to gabi who is louis because the song wasn’t enough. In a good musical, they would know the song it’s doing the job. But in TVL they don’t. They just add the music like set pieces, that don’t advance the story.

And again, not every song has to advance the story. In chicago we have Roxie (a song where roxie celebrates her victory) and mr cellophane (her husband sings about how everyone ignores him). But also, we get we both reached to the gun (where she starts as an underdog and by the end billy changes the journalists opinions with a lie) and funny honey (that starts with her confidently singing about getting away with her crime and finishes with her admitting he killed that dude). In vampire lestat we don’t get those big changes in the status quo through the songs, which by the fifth song makes it feel boring.

[barelybalthazarr]

I'm gonna need everyone to put some love on Louis's name REAL quick

[brawlingdiscontent]

The seance scene triple BS combo (from TVL After Dark):

Actors having to read the scene multiple times just to understand was was going on on a basic level

Louis and Lestat being forced to find humour in their daughter/sister's unending torment

Delainey's 'controversial opinion' being the thing supported by all other elements of the text: that even if she hates him/has other complicated feelings, Claudia still loves Louis (it's a bit ambiguous; the 'controversial' might be referring to something else she says, but I think this is the most obvious meaning)

[atlsaints15895]

I know how and why, but it's crazy to see first in line a show that was so careful with their race change, become like this...

Like, even if you wanted to bring the point that Claudia hated Louis just as she hated Lestat (but somehow she said worst things to Louis) why would you have her saying those racist insults.

(Louis was a terrible parent, but nothing in this world justifies that a white writing team had a black character saying “get this into your nappy little head" to another black character... that's just racist.

[nashvillethotchicken]

In a season with multiple rapists, at least 2 people who participated in a lynching, and fuckin daniel, somehow louis is consistently treated the worst and spoken about in the most dehumanizing ways possible for the crime of... talking about being abused in a book he didnt want published

[nerves-nebula]

yall care more about shipping than racism

!!!!! EMBARRASSING !!!!!

[texasbama]

LOUIS DE POINTE DU LAC THE VAMPIRE LESTAT | 3.05 'NEW YORK'

[atlsaints15895]

google search is so shit that I wrote "writing tools without ai" and the first link was a list that included chatgpt... very unserious shit

[dykesynthezoid]

Camp is self aware but what season 3 is doing isn’t camp. If anything it’s become too self aware, too constantly aware of its audience to perform true camp. It hampers itself, second guesses itself, spotlights its own insecurities. It’s so self conscious, so concerned with the audience’s reaction— both in pleasing and disgusting them— that the performance cannot support its own scaffolding. It buckles under its own weight. The center doesn’t hold. When they write season 4 they need to be locked in a remote cabin with no internet and have their phones confiscated. It’s simply the only way forward after this

[atlsaints15895]

I think that ignoring the impact that growing up during Jim Crow in the south has in your characters is inherently racist.

Why write it in one season if you are not willing to engage with it?