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Spider-Man: MENACE
Daredevil #9Â (2014)
â Moon Knight (2016) by Jeff Lemire, Greg Smallwood and Jordie Bellaire
<< ALWAYS⊠YOU ? >>
Iâm just going to answer this question and Iâm out.
The disrespect that Iâm alluding to has a lot of elements. First, Peter Benjamin Parker is Jewish. Every version of Peter Parker is Jewish. He is a kid who grew up in a predominantly Jewish ghetto turned suburb in Queens New York. Disney erased all of that to make him trendy and âmore relatable.â And itâs no coincidence since they did the same to Pietro and Wanda who are Romani and Jewish.
Second Peter Parker and Aunt May are poor. Peter Parker had to work in high school to help support his family. Aunt May was living off Uncle Benâs life insurance and was in retirement prior to his death. She had to come out of retirement and find work. And this is the kicker, Peter Parker and Aunt May abhorred the rich. Most of Peterâs rogues are working class career criminals but his major ones like Norman Osborn, Kingpin, And Doc Ock, corporate execs or corporate backed scientists who saw profit or progress over humanity and decency. They were greed and avarice personified. You know...like Tony Stark, the hero that Peter idolized....
And finally and most importantly, Peter Parker is an independent hero. Spider-Man is about independence. Peter was a bullied misanthropic shy Jewish white kid who if he werenât bitten would have let that repressed anger consume him. He became the most selfless sometimes overly so because he refused to take community responsibility and stop a robber because the person being robbed wronged him personally. And his Uncle Ben, god bless his kind and also Jewish heart, died instilling Into Peter as his last words to his nephew and adoptive son values of community and humanity. Power and responsibility. Jewish values that Peter grew from and inspired little kids like Miles Morales to understand himself.
And like I understand the American Jewish community has done so much to fight for the rights of other minorities in this country and created a medium that my black bi ass enjoys about being a hero and what that actually means.
Peter Benjamin Parker never needed to revere anyone. He is a hero that all others look up to in the same vein as Superman. A hero that we can be and at the same time understand what it is like. Peter Parker didnât look up an Iron Man who was war mongering and didnât take responsibility for his actions nor never experienced consequences until he was forced to and even then he blamed other people.
Spider-Man is not a prop for Iron Man.
@ubernegro
Okay one more time.
@necrolordj1 Going to be nice.
Alright, okay I for one am tired of people using this often quoted scene from Civil War about Peter dumpster diving for supplies. Do you see Peter doing that in his movie? No. Show, donât tell. They changed course in the direction of his character after Civil War. Not to mention he no longer resides in a Queens neighborhood but an apartment filled with IKEA furniture(because MCU doesnât understand anything else but wealth) and goes to a charter school, advanced placement school or a magnet school that assumes Peter is no longer poor. Fact of the matter is that Peterâs main social struggle is classism which is something that the movies chose not to display in spite of using behaviors that a person strapped for cash wouldnât do(leaving his backpack stranded and surprised that it is stolen when he comes back). Homecoming and subsequently Far From Home took Peter Parker out of the working class.
And no, when they were starting Amazing Spider-Man, Peter was Jewish without stating he is Jewish for fear of alienation and condemnation. Around the 60s a lot of Jewish immigrants came in and were wrestling with assimilation which is where a lot of the animosity between Peter and his early high school classmates stemmed from: anti-semitism. So they opted to infuse lesser known Jewish stereotypes to code Peter as Jewish. So no he wasnât wearing a Star of David or anything but it was subtle things like âAunt May using Jewish Guilt to make Peter feel bad about not helping his Aunt.â They did this with Ben Grimm and Bruce Banner as well. So early Spider-Man was Jewish. It wasnât until later where other non-Jewish writers began inserting Peter into Christianity or Protestant belief or atheism because it was a safer option. However, Brian Michael Bendis, writer of Ultimate Spider-Man and very good friend of Stan Lee prior to his death, was interviewed as to why he wrote Peter Parker speaking Yiddish and he was uncharacteristically frank: âBecause he is Jewish. All versions of Peter Parker are Jewish.â Later on Bendis goes on to explain while comparing and contrasting Miles Morales, that Peter is not too accepting of Judaism or is properly assimilated into whiteness. He denies it or is uncertain of his culture vs Miles Morales who loves rap music, sprays graffiti, and has the Puerto Rican flag plastered on his backback. Point is that given that two Slovakian New York Jewish immigrants created Peter Parker to mirror their own life experiences, it can be assumed that the life being mirrored is a Jewish one.
Iâm going to tag @traincat again to not elaborate but as a few literary resources that back the idea that Peter is Jewish or a Jew in Denial.
And about Peterâs internship in the Civil War comics, I understand that people donât hold up comic books to the same literary standard as door stoppers or novels but what you just did was the equivalent of reading the Great Gatsbyâs introduction of the titular character and saying that this story is about how cool being rich is. Yes, Peter worked with Tony at a time and yes, Tony gave him a suit as a show of support of Peter backing his side. However, the difference here is the story was about Iron Man consuming Peterâs identity and autonomy. Tony manipulated Peter to his side and used Peter as a brand mascot while spying on him and indirectly controlling him through the suit. So Peter rebelled, reprogrammed the Iron Spider suit, changed the colors back to his original design as a giant fuck you to Tony Stark. The major theme of Civil War Spider-Man was about respecting Spider-Manâs independence and autonomy. He was pushing back against controlling and frankly authoritarian nature.
Itâs common that people go to the Wikipedia page and use that as a summation of the story, but they often lack the why it is happening when itâs not explicit. Usually I go back to my fuck large huge stack of volumes and print those out but I ainât in the mood.
Now like I said. MCU and by extension Disney chose to erase that when all prior Disney adaptations upheld it. Itâs disrespectful to Spider-Man fans and Jewish American people who are sick of the âgoy washingâ or erasure of their representation.
@ubernegro
Iâm a little sick of explaining this (not to the above blog but to people who love to deny the possibility that Peter was conceived of as a Jewish character) but Spider-Man legitimately could not have been depicted as an openly Jewish character at the point of inception. It wouldnât have been published. Thatâs what people are failing to get -- the Protestant card has always been a flag being waved like âlook! Heâs not Jewish! Wink wink.â It was a way of getting all the Yiddish and the Jewish subtext into the book, a handy little âwe know how this looks but really heâs PROTESTANT.âÂ
Meanwhile, in the same body of work, Peter was referring to nuns as spooky ladies and failing to recognize what communion wafers were, which, Iâm pretty sure, if youâre any sort of practicing Christian, is a little tonally odd. So youâre left with either he has no religious identity altogether -- which wouldnât bar him from being Jewish even if it was true, because Judaism is an ethnoreligion and it is possible to be genetically and culturally Jewish without subscribing to the faith itself -- or itâs just the bull and the red flag: a distraction because they legitimately couldnât have gotten this into the book at the time. Iâm not saying it wouldnât have sold; Iâm saying it wouldnât have been PUBLISHED, at least, not in the form we know it. This is why Ben Grimm was only canonically referred to as Jewish on page in 2002, even though Jack Kirby featured him on his own personal Hanukkah cards wearing Jewish religious garb decades earlier. Itâs why Kitty Pryde was such a big deal when she hit the scene in 1980, a little curly haired proudly Jewish girl wearing a magen david necklace. (Two things she is currently consistently drawn without, in case we thought it actually got any better Jewish representation wise.) When people claim that there was never any Jewish intent behind Peter Parker it just showcases their lack of knowledge about Jewish history and the oppression of the Jewish people in media.
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annual parker family bbq @ forest hills
[id: a snapchat picture that says "neighbor's are having a silent disco BBQ." Drawn over the three people attending are Kaine Parker (who is working the BBQ and has a chef hat on), Ben Reilly, and Peter parker. They're all wearing different headphones and dancing to music. End ID]
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i hate mcu spiderman. what the fuck is âirondadâ? bitch im gonna kill you
The Punisher #14 - âWar on the Streets IIIâ (2019)
written by Matthew Rosenberg art by Szymon Kudranski & Antonio Fabela
[id: a comic panel of the punisher and moon knight. Theyâre both facing each other, shown from the shoulder up. The punisher is slightly taller and wearing his typical black and white skull t-shirt. Moon knight is wearing his white cape and hood, with a white mask.] Punisher: Hello, Marc. You still crazy?
Moon Knight: Little bit. You still murdering people?
Punisher: Little bit. Howâs your imaginary God?
Moon knight: Heâs good. Howâs your dead family?â [end id]
okay so i finished two moon knight series and im gonna say, in regards to mental illness, not half-bad. They really try to NOT be assholes (at least some of the content creators). I understand that comics, as a visual medium, has to showcase his alters in someway thatâs comprehensible to the audience, so them being their physically makes sense. Otherwise it probably wouldnât be nearly as compelling. However, it would make sense with how he acts and is treated by mental health professionals that he has some form of psychosis.Â
thatâs a well-functioning system if you ask me.Â
[id: comic panel from the comic series moon knight. Itâs a young man in a white yarmulke. He has lighter skin and brown hair swept to one side. Heâs facing an older woman with grey brown hair, whoâs face we canât see.] Moon knight: Marc isnât here anymore, Mrs. Spector.
Mrs. Spector: What? What are you--
Moon knight: Itâs Jake now. Marc is too upset to handle what comes next. [end id]
hey everyone, protect marc spector with ur life, i just got to his back story. I love this schizophrenic DID jewish angel. I love him. I. Love. Him. if im made to regret this textpost i WILL challenge marvel to a duel to the death