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[docholligay]

Oh my god, this is SUCCULENT. This is what I wanted. This is what I wanted!

I was right that he genuinely did not have the idea that he could kill Greed, whatever he did, it was about winning, it was about a game, it was about being God's specialest boy Edward Elric. It was about proving himself, and he had it all built up in his head that he was gonna be a big tough guy, and fight like he was going to kill Greed, but of course, he couldn't actually kill Greed. Greed can't die. So this can't be happening. He can't have killed someone.

The way he gets more and more panicky as he realizes that he has really done it, that he's killed someone and now he has to live with that the rest of his life, is so good. I love the expression on his face, this hurt and terror in his realization that he is now a person who kills people. Whatever Al thinks of their humanity is irrelevant, because Ed DOES think of them as people, and so he has killed a person. It's not a game where everyone pats him on the head and tells him how smart he is, this is actual war. This is what it looks like.

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[docholligay]

"Oh shit, that looks fucked up and extremely dangerous, and I have no idea what I'm running into!"

Ed:

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[docholligay]

I adore the look on Greed's face here, he's slumping to his knees and dying in front of Ed and his look is just, "Lol girl this is so fucking funny ahaha look at your face you're so traumatized right now. yolo BUT NOT FOR LONG"

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[ilions-end]

found myself unexpectedly emotional at a moment in seneca's thyestes when the chorus (a group of argives) sing in horror,

Are we of all generations in human history judged worthy of being crushed by the world's collapse? Is ours the final age of man?

and it made me realize that surely one of the oldest fears of humanity has to be the idea of the world ending within our lifetime; seeing the end coming and being alive to experience it. i worry about it, and here's an ancient roman expressing it, by making a people of an ancient-to-him mythological past worry about it. in every generation someone's been certain the world will collapse very very soon, and here we still are.

[that-faerie-in-the-corner]

Iphigenia's gender is not irrelevant to her sacrifice but I think it matters less than one would initially assume. In some ways I think she is adjacent to the "lost youth" archetype that is present in a lot of male characters in these myths. Polyxena's gender, however, feels EXTREMELY relevant to her death myth. and I think that's interesting I could have more to say but I will read euripides hecuba and get back to you

[evilios]

Actually the WORST thing to come out of the new Odyssey movie is that people are going to spread blatant misinformation on how nuanced mythology is. I have already seen multiple asks/posts about how "Helen was brainwashed by Aphrodite" like okay thank you for solving decades long debate on Helen's autonomy in one tumblr post but we literally do not have a singular conclusion on that.

[automatuck9]

[raptorific]

[poprocksromance]

A cautionary tale about the growing literacy crisis

[bunniboiz]

"it's ok to show (x) in fiction as long as the bad guy gets punished!" the bad guy doesn't have to get punished. in fact the bad guy can win altogether. the bad guy can entirely get away with it. hope this helps

[bunniboiz]

and this part might make some people's head explode but: characters can be written to forgive things you personally wouldn't ever forgive. not everything is written as what you'd perceive to be the right choice. not everything is a self-insert & protagonists don't have to be relatable.

[automatuck9]

The Illiad is probably my fave (predictable) but my Classics 1 and 2 prof had a huge boner for Ovid so I know things about Metamorphoses that I do not care about ahahah.

Metamorphoses is amazing! Did you have a favorite story? I sometimes see frustration from classicists that Ovid’s version is the only one people know, but come on that’s not Ovid’s fault he’s still great.

[postarcadian]

bouncing off of @an-ruraiocht’s Iliad/Odyssey/Aeneid poll I’m curious about some other ancient Greek and Roman texts

Which of the following Greek or Roman texts would you say you are most familiar with?

The Iliad (Homer)

The Odyssey (Homer)

The Aeneid (Vergil)

Antigone (Sophocles)

Oedipus Rex (Sophocles)

Medea (Euripides)

The Bacchae (Euripides)

Another Greek tragedy (tell me in the tags!)

Metamorphoses (Ovid)

Pharsalia/Bellum Civile (Lucan)

Thebaid (Statius)

Another Greek or Roman epic poem (tell me in the tags!)

Remaining time: 19 hours 56 minutes

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[twostarsinthesky]

the fact that people are in the odyssey tags criticising the nolan movie for its changes to the original myth (valid) only to then turn around and recommend epic: the musical of all things as a “more accurate” alternative is hysterical like please. let’s be serious now

[ot3]

coming up with an au were a dead character lives but shaking my head while i do it so everyone watching knows i support the role their death played in the narrative and consider it a legitimate writing choice

[sandovers]

“…suppose you wanted to build a cathedral. Would it be good enough, do you think, to scribble a plan on the back of an envelope and leave it in a drawer? Obviously not. The thing has to exist in the world. It’s what we’ve been given the world for.”

Alice Degan, From All False Doctrine

[an-ruraiocht]

which of these classical texts have you read?

the iliad, the odyssey, and the aeneid

the iliad and the odyssey, not the aeneid

the iliad only

the odyssey only

the aeneid only

the aeneid and the iliad, not the odyssey

the aeneid and the odyssey, not the iliad

I have read none of these

Voting ended onJul 22

"what if I've read part of it" if it's a large enough part that you would consider yourself to Have Read It in general contexts, then it counts. if it's not, then it doesn't. only you can be the judge of that, but I'm not giving you a nuance button.

any translations count, but abridged retellings don't

obviously, there are lots of other classical texts out there. you might have read none of these and be an expert on greek tragedy. I'm not judging your classical knowledge so you don't need to tell me all that. I'm just curious about combos of these specific texts and their popularity, bc a post i just saw got me thinking about it

[kexytimes]

"Priam's wretched wife lost all she had, until at last she lost her human form."