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So if you guys are interested in the meanings behind titles I choose, for fics and for ficlets and for chapters, I'm willing to have my inbox open for more in-depth explanation (because I am Overthinker of Lore).
Everything answered will be tagged under: title lore.
In your headcanons who would Garling consider his family?
*nods* Blood relations.
Blood relations who are loyal to the power behind the Empty Throne and to the ideals of Celestial Dragons overall.
So, not too differently from any other Celestial Dragon.
(Having a wife is more about a type of ownership than actual family, especially if the wife isn't of Noble blood.)
(Everyone knows that.)
Depending on how much the Roger pirates stay connected to each other, how much Magnolia was with Roger pirates and Luck . Ace might just accidentally gathered up Roger's old crew.
Shank is already involved. Rayleigh is coming because of Shakky. Gaban is in Elbapf, but he got a bone to pick with CD for what happened with Harlad and he's worries about Shank. Buggy was in Impel down in cannon so he might get accidentally involved. There was also a fishman in Roger's crew, so that guy might also got involved through Jinbei. There's also Yamato, going by Oden, who might even escape Onigashima to help Ace. So that's Oden.
And hey! That's their Captain's son! Going into what is equivalent of Luffy diving into Impel down and marineford while still being Paradise Strength. To save Shank's mother who's been protecting Ace in every way she can. With her reputation, strength, knowledge and now even herself. Surporting Ace both physically and emotionally when they couldn't. They might've leave Ace be because he was with Newgate. But now? All bets are off.
Ace and his Leverage-type crew of Old Men Who Kick Ass.
Plus a clown.
I don't think Yamato would be able to break out or be aware of what's gone wrong to break out (due to how Wano is cut off, and that Ace's Vivre Card has recovered instead of burning to nothing like in canon), but hey! That's actually a nice goal for Ace to work towards in the future, doing something about Wano.
It would be great for Gaban to show up, actually, I really like Gaban.
Ace, Jinbei, Rayleigh and Gaban, plotting the most audacious break-in the world has EVER seen. With a sprinkle of Luffy, whenever he shows up for whatever reason.
Also.
Side thing, but Magnolia would be SO HAPPY to see Buggy again! She missed him! And Buggy'd be so surprised about that, because isn't she's Shanks' mom? Not his?
Shank and Newgate went to Cold War for what happened with Ace and Magnolia. Ironically, the only reason they're not outright killing each other, is because of Ace.
Even if Ace hates Shank for the cold war and no longer being able to return to Whitebeard, Shank won't be letting Ace go back.
He let Ace go before, because he wanted Ace to be free. Also because trusted and respected both him and Newgate. Now? He doesn't trust Newgate with Ace anymore. Even if Ace comes to hate him, at least he'll be free and alive to hate him.
The two Emperors fight each other over Ace. The two Emperors don't kill each other over Ace.
For Shanks, it's also that his mom sacrificed herself for Ace. Whether Magnolia makes her way to freedom after that or not doesn't matter, because either way he would be wasting that sacrifice letting anything else happen to Ace.
Along the remarks of what you said before in a comment of this being a Squire entrusted to another Lord situation with Ace, it's the situation of:
Shanks trusted Whitebeard to watch over Ace properly. As another Lord over a Squire.
Magnolia quite clearly did not.
But out of respect for Shanks specifically (not for Whitebeard, if Magnolia ever respected him, she wouldn't have offered to kill him for Ace), she backs off.
Yet, in the end, with what happened with Teach, it is MAGNOLIA who is proven correct in not trusting Whitebeard, and not only that, she is PAYING to fix Whitebeard's error.
Truly ironic, for the one who trusted him the least to be fixing what went wrong out of trust.
Yeah. Shanks can live with Ace hating him forever if it means Ace is alive and free to hate him.
"Guess I just have bad luck with brothers in general, huh?" is the not-joke he makes to Benn one night, over too many cups of sake.
I'm surprised the knight kink crowd hasn't picked up on the fact that historical knights had a habit of capturing each other for ransom. What do you mean you don't see the sexual tension in rivals seeking each other out in battle or through ambush, deliberately avoiding harming their target so they may be taken back to the attacker's castle, either held as a prisoner or as a honored "guest" as the case may be, until they are redeemed by their friends and allies?
So first things first Congrats for having a Baby Nephew, hope you hat a good week so far😊
Soo Red threaded noose Au
On Garps now side how would the Interrogation from from the God Knights be aside from the Obvious Pummeling they are getting ? Would they be tauntig Garp about the fate of his boy?
How would Imu react if mu's Knight report that, that exact D whom Imu doesn't want to deal with namely Garp,is search for Dragon?
Thanks man. BABY TIME.
Ahem.
God Knights be mocking Garp with "hey you can devote more time to your work that really matters instead of getting distracted" and "we'll protect your son better than you ever managed to."
(It's the latter that's really upsetting to Garp.)
Imu's response is along the lines of "of course he would do that, because Garp is a D that has never done anything convenient for the Marines ever."
Worded more prettily, of course.
Imu decides not to bring this up to Dragon. It'll only distract mu's soulmate after all.
If Shanks and Whitebeard were to go to war how would they go about it? Would they be arranging a battle? Would Shanks try to poach Whitebeard’s territory?
First things first, in a world that is mostly ocean, 'territory' is going to be a much more nebulous term than it would in a land-based situation.
Like there appears to be islands that are claimed by the Emperors, but I think the ocean around them is usually something that is left be to travel through.
You might definitely be attacked if you draw too close to a claimed island, but that's on you for that by that point, and is also more likely to happen if you are outright flying an allegiance to an Emperor that this claimed island is not beholden to.
Otherwise, you see another ship, even if they're another Emperor's ally, you keep going on your way.
(Variations on this, of course, for Marines. Or raider specific pirate types, I feel.)
Of course, this only really happens in a neutral situation.
In a war between Whitebeard and Shanks, their aligned ships are going to be raiding and attacked the ships of the other side when they run into them instead of letting them pass by.
Islands along the imagined 'border' between the two are going to be constantly traded back and forth in ownership.
Civilian ships are going to be much more at risk than they already were, to be 'co-opted' for resource gain of whatever crew's taking them.
Crews that might be more prone to...some nasty actions, who may have been under proper control by either Whitebeard or Shanks, will take this opportunity to run wild. Some islands might get burned down, or taken advantage of in the chaos.
There might be a clash between Shanks and Whitebeard in person, but a war like this? This is a war of proxies. Of resources. Of showing how much you have to lose when you fucked up on your promises.
Holy shit, Garling is just living his best life at the Raisng Storms AU right now huh? Probably laughed himself silly when he first heard the news and went to open a bottle of champagne. He might have even smiled at Sommers. SOMMERS.
Is he going to show up at the execution so he can personally wield the blade (again)? Or worse… is he going to the execution to claim Magnolia instead of killing her??
Garling is in a Good Mood in the first time for...forever. This is terrifying to everyone else.
Garling would definitely want to doing personal execution here, if that's what he wants.
Claiming Magnolia...that's something he definitely wanted after the first fight with her and what Magnolia realized he wanted after their third fight.
Now, Garling would be telling himself that he wants her to replace the child she owes him (Shanks). By the time the Hostage Trade-off occurs, she's too old to safely bear him a child.
BUT Garling's desire for Magnolia isn't really about getting new kids, though he says that. So it's possible that he'd show up to claim her and that's...bad for everyone.
Back to Garden au
How would the Confrontation between Garp and Dragon look if teenbean Dragon never got his memories back? You wrote that People would Mourn but how bad would it be for Garp?
The temptation for Garp is to try the entire Marine thing again, but he also knows what happened the first time (and also, what happened to Dragon as a teen this time as well).
Plus. Well. What happened with Ace. There is more solid proof than ever that trying to get his kids to become Marines isn't enough to protect them and that is such a devasting blow to Garp's concept of the world.
I'd say that Garp is so much more tempted to sacrifice himself for The Youth than he is in canon (and the man is already attempting to throw himself on metaphorical mines ALL THE TIME for this in canon!!!) because Dragon isn't grown up to a stage where he can properly protect himself like he did as Revolutionary Leader and grown adult, in Garp's mind. He has to protect his son.
Also, I think Garp would want to introduce Koby and Helmeppo to Teen Dragon. :)
Now that I talk about it. Tulu and Nika/Luffy have some similarities. Both just want to mind their own business but people ended up following them.
There's not much on Nika yet, so Example being like Luffy and the Strawhat Fleet. They just up and decided that they're gonna follow him. Luffy's followers are lighter. Freer. From both sides.
Tulu's is a heavy thing. His every action and inaction bearing heavy consequences, regardless of his well wish.
Also!!!! One piece have so many people claiming they're gods. Rulers. Demanding people's worship and obedience. Which Luffy decides is absolutely stupid and punches them.
Tulu however. He claim that he IS a god. But please stop worshipping him. He just wants to sleep.
How would the meeting between Tulu and Luffy go? Like, Tulu inviting Luffy and his friends to his place. To thank them for taking care of Murphy. Maybe perhaps curiosity? About Luffy's whole *Gasture at all Nika, god of freedom myth"
Well. The meeting could be nonchalant from both sides. With Luffy "I don't know why people keep calling me Nika" to Tulu "Ok"
The thing about Nika and all that, is that Nika is a made up god as far as we know and the Fruit exists because people dreamed of Nika to free them.
So Nika is what the masses want Nika to be, but Luffy as Nika is Luffy with little extra flavor of Nika on top.
With Tulu and Luffy both, though, people are going to be viewing them through the lens of 'God' first and in many cases only as God.
You're right in that they both don't want worshippers. Hah, poor guys.
Luffy and Tulu meeting...hm. Tulu, in so many ways, is very alien to the mortal experience, while Luffy is the mortal experience.
I think Luffy's first interactions with Tulu would be entirely shaped by what his crew thinks of Tulu, and if Murphy is part of that crew, then he's going to be possibly going "hey I'm going to beat you up for making Murphy sad."
Fight would happen, and then Luffy'd find Tulu pretty chill because I think Tulu might actually apologize for what happened to Murphy herself if that was a desire that was expressed.
The real reason I think Pontos decided to age himself up: he/the Lord of the Abyss is trying to figure out why his nephew wanted to leave Ebwynnos after becoming an old man and losing all the benefits of youth.
xionn....
We need more women characters who are Male Protagonists. You know. Slightly haggard. She's splashing cold water on her face and gripping the edge of the sink staring in the mirror for a minute. She's coping badly with her deadwife
Ok listen I get that people tagging posts with men is a rule of physics on this hellsite but it's kind of bizarre how badly some of you have failed the assignment on this one. A generic male protagonist archetype who is a man is nothing. That's just the normal cliche I'm talking about subverting. What?
Like if you are For Serious headcanoning your blorbo as a trans woman I am kissing you on the head. But I KNOW most of you are not doing that. Come on. For one dollar name a fictional woman. No being a loser does not make him a woman try again
Even if everything turned out well. With Magnolia saved and Ace still alive. The relationship between the Red Hair Pirates and Whitebeard Pirates will never recover. And Ace won't go back to Whitebeard anymore.
In many ways, this would be so much messier than canon. Mostly because living people are more problematic than dead ones, sorry to say.
Ace would probably want to go back to the Whitebeard Pirates, he has friends there, still views Whitebeard as his adoptive dad, but politics-wise, that would be a bad idea.
Like the Whitebeards might have to outright reject Ace among them, for their own safety and future, with what happened with Shanks hanging over everything.
The relationship between Ace and Magnolia would be different as well, because before Ace was viewing Magnolia visiting him out of obligation for their cover, and now he knows that she was doing so out of a sense of care instead.
Like he's probably still embarrassed about how much she sticks around him, but less so, due to that level of investment being so new to him.
No shade to Whitebeard intended, but Ace would probably think Whitebeard wants him around because he has the potential to be strong, especially with how the man puts Ace in as Commander of 2nd Division pretty quickly, more than the actual care that Magnolia showed with the Hostage Situation.
The Spades Pirates would leave the Whitebeards for Ace, like how they joined them for Ace in the first place. They'd also welcome their new overlord visitor in the form of Magnolia, who'd totally just hang out with them like she does the Red Hair Pirates.
(Should she timely escape her captivity, of course.)
Lighthearted (hopefully) Rainmaker AU idea...
Dragon, Shanks, and Magnolia are all talking somewhere (the Navy is panicking about this, but screw em'), about... well, little stuff. Dragon is learning what happened to the children he did his best for (and the second kid he actually did sort of save), and hearing about his son. Shanks is making a new friend and planning how to aggravate the Government after this while staying in touch, and Magnolia... is feeling less angry than usual.
Big News Morgan releases a photo spread of the Rainmaker hanging out with a hooded man, with the headline of RAINMAKER FIND NEW MAN FOR HAREM???
Shanks finds this hilarious, and tries to invite Dragon over so this can possibly happen again. Maybe talk about Luffy again, telling Dragon about Anchor was a fun time!
Magnolia is hiding. She doesn't need to be involved in this.
I’d played with Magnolia lives au before we started talking about yours. I’d gone nearly the opposite way. One verse I had magnolia spying for the revolutionary army and being saved because Garling changed his mind and felt entitled to a replacement for Shanks.
The latest Scarlet Rainfall reminded me of a fucked thing Garling was doing in my Magnolia lives au. He went back to treating Magnolia how he used to and acted like nothing had happened.
OH THAT'S A FUN ONE. I like that, Magnolia surviving and joining the RA.
Feel free to share thoughts on that one, sounds fuuuun.
But honestly, I don't think it could go any other way with Garling when it comes down to him 'getting back' with Magnolia, because no way in hell is he going to admit he screwed up. But the entire thing that HAPPENED with Magnolia was the DEFINITION of that, if he gets back in a relationship with her, so of course he's going to pretend that didn't happen in the first place.
Also follows in the themes of how the World Nobles in charge of the world don't change, are frozen in their immortality.
Garling acting like nothing changed would probably fuck with Magnolia. He's acting like the man she loved again. Garling came back for her, he reunited her with one of her babies and promised to find the other one. And he causally stabbed her. He could do that again. Garling destroyed her home, killed everyone she knew. Now he wants to be a family and says it was her idea. Magnolia would never be able to trust Garling again. She'd try to teach her kids to never trust Garling.
This feel gross but I imagined Magnolia would have another kid. Garling wanted to replace the kid Magnolia "lost". Thinking younger sister 6-7 years younger then Shanks? I've played with two versions of Magnolia lives au where she escapes with her kids.
I have an incomplete thought of Magnolia being called a consolation prize. and Magnolia avoiding Garling by moving around where she sleeps and sleeping in the nursery with baby Shamrock's nannies.
The RA was born from God Valley. Magnolia would fit in. I'm entertained by the idea of Magnolia outsmarting Garling. Playing the role of this desperate mother who would do anything to stay with her child(ren) and then sabotaging Garling, stealing information from his house, getting Shamrock to talk and deliver messages for her.
By the time Shanks shows up, Magnolia is running RA spy operations on Mary Geoise. Garling tired of her but can't get rid of Magnolia because Shamrock is attached. Shanks is the first person to notice and is trying to act like he hasn't caught on.
