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Philly Justice (full fake trailer) | Good Hang with Amy Poehler
The 5th graders that I am coaching for the Science Olympiad decided to name one of their can racers as "The Onceler". It will never be over.
The Golden Girls – 5.18: An Illegitimate Concern
The Dylans' conversation: a beautiful affirmation of both of their identities as whole people as well as an acknowledgement of them being intrinsically the same person.
The Marks' conversation: No YOU kill yourself!
"are innies and outies the same person" and the show says well yes but also no. "and does love transcend severance?" and the show says well yes but also no! hope this helps.
tearing up thinking about the fact that Mark was only able to save Gemma because of innie solidarity. Because Helly stole Milchick's walkie talkie and trapped him, giving Mark the opportunity to escape. Because Dylan got back to the severed floor and saw some shit going down and without question threw his body on the line too. Because Lorne was exhausted watching her beloved goats sacrificed to the corporate machine and wasn't willing to stand by and watch Drummond kill one of their own. Because the entire Choreography and Merriment department responded to Helly pleading for help in a scene straight out of Norma Rae
Not a single one of them had ever met Gemma Scout, but they knew Ms. Casey was one of them. An injury to one is an injury to all
I see a lot of criticism and comparisons to "innies" as spoiled kids. And I do STRONGLY see the connections to innies and outies having a parent/child dynamic (oMark even calls iMark a child), but a lot of the comments stop short of the reality that innies are being faced with their own version of death. To me, it goes beyond "parent with more knowledge and experience says to do this thing and the kid is being rebellious. " Innie Mark was literally born out of oMark's inability to cope with grief and loss. To continue with the analogy, Mark Scout had a son to take on the burden of living, as it was more acceptable to get Severed than be passed out drunk for 8 hours a day.
Mark S. and especially Dylan G. have their moments of hypothesizing and basically fantasizing about who their outies are. Wellness sessions are just stories about these almost mythical beings and are held with such reverence by all of the innies. It's reminiscent of storylines in literature and other media where the "little orphan child" idealizes a parent they know they will never meet.
Except then Mark S. does go to the outside world. They plan an elaborate escape with the overtime contingency to warn anyone they can about the evils of Lumon. But instead, iMark uses his last works in S1 to tell them about Gemma/ Ms. Casey.
Mark S. spends most of Season 2 now trying to find and help liberate a woman he barely knows because now HE knows it's important to his outie. But this sacrifice is never appreciated by oMark. The scene in the birthing cabin shows how iMark goes from revering and admiring his outie to feeling used and discarded.
By all accounts for Mark S., his outie, a person who sired iMark and then never gave him a second thought until he needed something, is asking him to die. It goes beyond belittling his romantic interest in Helly. It's not a comparison of "Mark x Gemma" vs "Mark x Helly" and which relationship is stronger or more meaningful or deserves to be saved.
It's the fundamental lack of empathy for a man who is being asked to risk everything he has ever known and loved and worked for. This isn't your standard parent/child dynamic where the parent has shown the child a lifetime of safety and security and emotional support. Mark Scout does not care about what happens to his innie. I'm not gonna talk about whether or not oMark should or shouldn't because I don't know if it would make a difference to my stance. I don't think it's even about absolute morality. To me, it's about the expectation that a child should never act in their own best interests because an adult has made a decision for them.
The final act of the Season 2 finale follows Mark S. as he does everything that he was asked to do. He obediently finished Cold Harbor, risked his life to break Gemma out of the testing room, and he SUCCEEDED in getting her out. He accomplished his mission.
Mark S. made one decision that was selfish, when the alternative was asking him to cease existing. Outie Mark really didn't say "get her out and I don't care if I die". His goal was to get her out AND see her again, even if it was at the cost of his innie. And since his innie was solely created as a vessel for his grief, he's no longer needed now that Gemma is back.
And to me, that's what my issue is with the criticism of iMark's choice and comparisons to him as a rebellious teenager. He isn't choosing to throw away his life and run away with his first high school girlfriend. This isn't just a "but I love her, Dad" moment. This is a consciousness who has finally accepted that he also deserves a life.
What makes this show great is that, objectively, they all deserve a chance at happiness. Gemma DESERVES to be with Mark after all of her suffering. OMark DESERVES to be with his wife after he grieved her for 2 years.
But iMark and Helly, by the realities established within the show (not to mention how basically everything they have been doing was to prove that innies are their own consciousness) also deserve that. IMark being asked to sacrifice his life so his outie can be with Gemma feels no different than oMark being asked to sacrifice himself for iMark to be with Helly.
There was no option for a happy ending, but Mark S. made what he thought was the best decision that he could-- Gemma is free, and he gets to spend at least 10 more seconds with the person that he loves. He gets to live.
SEVERANCE — 2.10 "Cold Harbor"
The thing that’s crazy is like. Mark S was so excited to talk to his outie. So excited to see what he was like. Kinda like how his whole face lit up in s1 when Devon told him he was a teacher. He was so happy. And then Mark Scout tells him “Ms. Cobel says there’s someone you like down there. I’m glad you got to have that” like he’s talking to a kindergartener who handed out a valentine to their crush at recess. Then he calls Helly “Heleny”. Couldn’t be bothered to learn her name even though he knows they slept together. And the respect Mark S had for his outie vanishes. There was no choice. “They give us half a life and think we won’t fight for it.” Well, he’s fighting now.
out of everything that just happened i think mpreg kier was probably the craziest
Mark s spent his entire life imprisoned at work for his outie’s emotional convenience, mark s has Been looking for gemma all season long, mark s had his feelings And life belittled by outie mark in this very episode and he STILL chose to save gemma, he had that whole convo with helly about wanting more time together but he STILL finished cold harbor he STILL went down to the testing floor and he STILL escorted miss casey out the door and freed gemma.
And people are MAD at him? For choosing to spend a few extra minutes with the woman he loves? Before they are both inevitably caught? Before their life inevitably ends?? Hilarious.
SEVERANCE 2.10 Dear Innie, I've read your request and organized my response into three points. Point one: fuck you.
i do think it's interesting how the primary misstep people seem to make when it comes to analyzing severance is seeing the innies and outies as entirely separate characters. when i think the coolest thing about the way the show has gone about doing its doppelganger concept is the way it so thoroughly problematizes any attempt to do that. normally when stories do a doppelganger, that character is either an unambiguously separate character who is only metaphorically the same as the protagonist, or an alter ego who represents a piece of or exaggeration of the protagonist. or a literal twin, or clone, or double. in all cases the story is usually about that which we consider falsely other to ourselves. and maybe the story plays the monstrous otherness straight, or maybe it's about the consequences of seeing parts of yourself as a monstrous other. but regardless of what exactly the story is doing the doppelganger in question is in some sense made literally other, whether physically (frankenstein's creature) or in terms of character (mr. hyde, tyler durden).
whereas in severance the only difference between the innies and outies is their memories. no one's been possessed, or lost their soul. repeatedly, elements of the innies or outies bleed through. and yes of course, philosophically, you can argue about whether--by having different memories--this does make the innies and outies as separate of people as say, clones might be. ie, people who also have different physical existences. and i don't think the show is running away from that discussion or something. clearly, given the whole conversation about "do innies and outies have separate souls" from 2x06, it's a question that's on the table.
but the point i'm trying to make is that for the purposes of metaphor, by making the innies and outies share a body and a selfhood, it immediately and viscerally becomes painfully obvious that severed characters really are otherizing themselves. they are punishing themselves, ignoring themselves, betraying themselves, fighting themselves, dehumanizing themselves, abusing themselves. they are doing that to someone who is a person, because the person is them. the false otherness isn't a surprise, it is deliciously plain, almost pathetic or mundane. and that is a different and interesting kind of horror.
Severance spent two seasons (and Lumon spent literally years) proving that innies have their own unique memories, thoughts, morals, beliefs, and opinions, and there's still internet discourse about whether or not any of the innies have the right to prioritize themselves in any way.
SEVERANCE #02.10: ‘Cold Harbor' + REDDIT TEXT POSTS [Episode 1] [Episode 2] [Episode 3] [Epsiode 4]
Britt Lower, Adam Scott, and Dichen Lachman © Jason Armond, Los Angeles Times (2025)
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