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twittwr users just reached 2013
this is their response LMAOOOO
some important words from bisexual magazines/letters
[ID: Two astronauts floating in space looking at Earth, which has the bisexual flag on it. One astronaut is saying: "Wait so bisexuality is the attraction to all genders?" The second astronaut is behind them, pointing a gun at them and saying, "Always has been." End ID]
Bisexuality is:
the attraction to men, women, and nonbinary people (in other words all genders). they could have preferences, they might not.
Bisexuality is NOT:
- the attraction to men and women only
- the attraction to two or more genders
- transphobic or excluding trans or nonbinary people in any way
- inherentlyïżŒ involving preferences
- attraction solelyïżŒ based off genitals
Friendly reminder that tomorrow is the first day of pride month and if I see any biphobia, I will throw hands
This includes, but is not limited to:
saying that bisexuality excludes trans/nonbinary people (it doesn't)
saying that bisexuality is too binary (it isn't)
saying that bisexuality is outdated (again, it isn't)
saying/implying that bisexuals only care about gender rather than personality (which is gross and untrue)
derailing conversations on biphobia and its effects
excluding bisexuals from mlm and wlw spaces/discussions
speaking over bisexuals in conversations on the issues we face
refusing to listen to bisexuals if we say something is biphobic
ignoring bisexual history and activism
ignoring the present contributions of bisexuals to LGBTQ culture
making demeaning jokes about bisexuals or jokes that rely on negative stereotypes
stereotyping bisexuals in general
viewing bisexuals as 'half-straight'/'lesser' members of the LGBTQ community
and finally, speaking over bisexuals about the very definition of bisexuality
yes this includes saying things like 'that sounds more like [other sexuality]' or 'if you define your attraction that way you're [other sexuality] instead' in response to a bisexual person describing how they define their orientation for themself
there is now research proving not only that pansexuals are biphobic but that pansexual biphobia has a negative impact on bisexualsâ mental health
The study checked how bisexual, pansexual and queer women define bisexuality.
Pansexuals and queer women said that bisexuality is binary and means attraction to cis men and women and they also âfelt that claiming a bisexual identity indicated an outdated, offensive belief that there are only two gendersâ.
whereas actual bisexuals defined bisexuality as broad and inclusive of all genders.
Itâs also interesting that all the people claiming bisexuality was transphobic were cis whereas the trans people interviewed didnât have a problem with the bisexual label.
In addition, bisexuals expressed that they found the debates around whether bisexuality is inclusive very upsetting and it made them consider hiding their bisexuality or changing their label.
âWhile experiencing oneâs chosen identity as personal and meaningful was not unique to the bisexual women in our sample, bisexual women often described an added layer of psychological distress upon learning that others define bisexuality in ways that reinforce a traditional gender binary, which contradicts their own definitions and lived experiences of bisexuality.â
i am losing my mind at the people trying to âdebunkâ this with scientific sounding arguments such as âthe sample size is too small to mean anythingâ - literally the most anti-science thing you can say
1. it displays that you have no understanding of basic research concepts such as the difference between quantitative and qualitative research, what theyâre used for and what kind of sample sizes are viable for them
2. trying to dunk on peer reviewed research with a snappy one liner because the findings make you feel bad or clash with your pre-existing beliefs
As a former PhD level social scientist, I need you all to know that a good sample size for a social science study is 30-50 people. In my extensive experience, itâs really only valid to consider the implications of sample size when the study is <20 people (and as OP noted, this doesnât apply to qualitative research!!! At all!!!!! No numbers, pals!) There is not infrastructure, funding, or other resources to create the kind of massive sample studies you see in medicine. That doesnât mean you canât do good research with <10,000 people. Also, if your stats are good enough to make it through peer review, your sample size has likely been taken into consideration properly. If you donât know much about scientific papers, you can learn, or you can sit down when people talk about peer-reviewed research.
Edit: Iâm sorry Iâm just REALLY mad about this, the cited study had 25 participants who did interviews. Do you have any IDEA how much labor goes into transcribing and coding that much interview data to analyze? No, you donât. You donât even know what coding is if you are sniping about 25 participants. 25 is a lot of people for an interview-based study, JFCCCcccc
a handful of additional points
1. people saying you cant generalize this to mean all pansexuals are biphobic because the small sample size and qualitative nature of this study means it doesnt represent larger trends: sure, maybe. but what it does prove is that it exists. there are pansexual people whose understanding of bisexuality are biphobic and differ from the definitions of bisexuals AND that this difference causes tension and distress to those who do identify as bisexual. it may not be representative of every pan or bi person, but it does prove the existence and lived experiences of relevant people. (as an example, i would not discredit a qualitative study that interviewed 20~ single mothers about their experiences with the available social structures on their city and their effectiveness in supporting single mothers, simply because the sample size is small. their opinions are still reflective of real life issues that real life people experience, and that is worth acknowledging and considering.) so if youâre saying this isnât generalizable, youâre right! but it wasnât meant to be and doesnt have to be. if youâre saying it is useless and social sciences are bad as a result, i need you to consider that even the most niche group of people need their struggles considered and validated in the social sciences. small as the sample size is, if its a problem that exists, it deserves to be documented and discussed and if possible fixed. if there are 10 separate single mothers saying social services suck and theyre living in poverty, we need to acknowledge that this is a real issue. the same goes for these bisexual people saying that they experience tensions as a result of biphobic understandings of bisexuality by pan people.
2. people saying âbut iâve never met a biphobic pan personâ or âX person in my life is pansexual and i love them, vice versaâ: good for you! thats genuinely great and i donât want anyone to experience biphobia either, so im glad to hear it. at the same time, this isnât (necessarily/always) a critique of pansexuals as individuals. this is a critique of the label that functions exactly the same as âbisexualâ but constantly aims to distance itself from bisexuality. in doing so, the meaning of bisexuality keeps getting muddied because people who are, essentially, bisexual keep trying to define themselves differently. this is how biphobic and tranpshobic definitions of bisexuality come about. and so i have to ask: if bi and pan are the same, why do some people prefer to identify as pansexuality? to say âit just feels rightâ ignores the element of social influences that people often subconsciously act upon (in the same way some women will say they get plastic surgery to feel confident, but if you asked them why they get the specific procedures that they do, or why they felt unconfident before, you find that the root cause is the social influence of the existing beauty standards that make them dislike how they looked while also making them want to look a certain way).
we do not exist in a vacuum - our choices are often influenced by the views of society, even when we think they arenât. it makes sense to want to distance oneself from bisexuality when the label is so vilified. but distancing yourself doesnt allow you to challenge the stigma attached to bisexuality, instead allowing it to perpetuating while the people who do allow themselves to identify as bisexual are further villainized. to concretize this idea, consider the stereotype of bi people being exclusive of trans/nonbinary people. if i were to be someone attracted to all genders, i may feel like bisexuality doesnt fit me as well as pansexuality does. and i may feel this way subconsciously, without even realizing that itâs because i donât identify with the stereotype associated with bisexuality. and so i decide to identify as pan, and when people ask why, i just say âit feels rightâ. and so i never question whether or not the stereotype is true, and i never challenge it because i donât have to, now that Iâve decided to identify as the newer label that i feel is âbetterâ, all without ever questioning why it is i feel that way. and if i, subconsciously, judge bisexual people as being transphobic in the future, well then so be it, i guess. and so when someone asks me whats so different between pan and bi, i come up with something that furthers the misunserstandimg of bisexuality, like âi care about hearts, not partsâ, or âi dont just like 2 gendersâ, which erases the lived experience of decades of people who have called themselve bisexual all while miseducating others on what bisexuality means and furthering the stigma.
so i have to ask, if you identify as pan because it âjust feels rightâ, what is it about bisexuality that you feel is so âwrongâ? and i am begging you to ask yourself if the reason bisexuality feels wrong is because you have some unchecked stigma, misunserstanding, or bias against bisexuality as an identity. because if you didnt, i dont think you would consider it so bad when people equate bi and pan, or call you one instead of the other.
every terf who touches my post about gender will explode.
just like itâs important that we let people embrace and be flamboyant with their gender, we must allow people to have gender be a nonimportant part of their identity. a cis woman can love being feminine and claim her womanhood loud and proud, just like another cis woman can just be âwhateverâ about it. a trans woman can be hyperfeminine and proud, while another can just say âyeah iâm a womanâ without it being a gigantic deal to her. a non-binary person doesnât have to be constantly torn up about their gender identity to be non-binary. all experiences of gender are unique and valid in their own way.
i really wish youâd stop associating womanhood with femininity
thatâs the point of this post.
Iâm glad a lot of peuple have found comfort in that post i made about gender being a non-important part of your identity. seeing that brought me comfort too.
All of these mspec labels have brought on, and continue to spread, a lot of biphobia. And that is a fact.
just like itâs important that we let people embrace and be flamboyant with their gender, we must allow people to have gender be a nonimportant part of their identity. a cis woman can love being feminine and claim her womanhood loud and proud, just like another cis woman can just be âwhateverâ about it. a trans woman can be hyperfeminine and proud, while another can just say âyeah iâm a womanâ without it being a gigantic deal to her. a non-binary person doesnât have to be constantly torn up about their gender identity to be non-binary. all experiences of gender are unique and valid in their own way.
If gender makes no sense to you, you are allowed to just give up and ignore it
I agree with all of this, but I also want to note that a woman (trans or cis) being butch and loving suits or keeping her hair short can be a way of loving and reclaiming womanhood. Though for a different woman it can just be the most practical thing to do, whatever. Gender conforming and gender nonconforming people can care a lot and be flamboyant or just give up on it
of course. i didnât word this post as well as i could have because i didnât think anyone would see it, but the point was basically what your last sentence is :)
No, a bi woman mentioning her bf in LGBT circles does not, by any means, make her invasive or a traitor.
No, a bi man mentioning his gf in LGBT circles does not, by any means, make him invasive or a traitor.Â
Bi people having the odd ass city to talk about their partners will never be a âbetrayalâ to the community. Youâre just a crybaby.Â
just like itâs important that we let people embrace and be flamboyant with their gender, we must allow people to have gender be a nonimportant part of their identity. a cis woman can love being feminine and claim her womanhood loud and proud, just like another cis woman can just be âwhateverâ about it. a trans woman can be hyperfeminine and proud, while another can just say âyeah iâm a womanâ without it being a gigantic deal to her. a non-binary person doesnât have to be constantly torn up about their gender identity to be non-binary. all experiences of gender are unique and valid in their own way.
99% of people donât actually care about experiencing gender đ they just exist without constantly trying to be Gender. a feminine cis woman isnât being flamboyant with her gender or âexpressingâ her gender sheâs just existing. your statement only makes sense if you consider femininity to be a more true expression of womanhood than not being feminine. if i wear a dress Iâm not trying to Express Gender, iâm just wearing a dress.
yâall should try just existing without obsessing over gender, itâs pretty relaxing actually. for most people gender is an extremely non important part of their identity.
i don't know if you're trying to expand on the post or trying to roast me but this is literally the point of this post lmfao. people are allowed to just ignore their genders.
but yeah sure pansexuals donât hate bi people right?
I just want to know how bi history is "nothing more than trying to erase pansexuality" when pansexuality as it's used today wasn't even a thing back then. What the hell have bi people ever stolen from pans? It's literally always the other way around. Bi people can't have SHIT without pans double-dipping their crusty fingers into it. From innocuous bi posts to media to entire bi organizations, pans have invaded and spread like a goddamn virus. This person is so wrong that I have to wonder if they're even for real.
Pans are so ugly in the head.
unfortunately this person was for real bc their blog was all about whining abt bisexuals and claiming canon bi characters like korra as 'pan character of the week' lmfao just a lot of pathetic behaviors in one person
but yeah sure pansexuals donât hate bi people right?
iâve been thinking a lot about how most of these new sexuality labels are created by very young and inexperienced people who seem to be under the impression that the whole world is hypersexualÂ
and iâm not sure why exactly that is but it genuinely seems that these people think that everyone in the world is experiencing sexual attraction and down to fuck at all times to the point where they are convinced that âi need to have an emotional bond with people before i consider them that wayâ and âiâm attracted to people for their personalitiesâ are weird minority experiences that deserve special labels