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discourse blog run by an icky blot kinnie

[blotcourse]

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pls call me blot (he/him)! i run another blog that u may recognize but i decided to make this sideblog for discourse to keep the other one discourse free!!

hills ill happily die on: ⊹ proship | profic ⊹ pro-kink | pro-paraphilia ⊹ pro-fleur ⊹ pro-transid ⊹ anti transharmful/transharmed transitioning ⊹ anti-radqueer ⊹ anti-anti ⊹ anti pro-contact/neutral-contact/complex-contact

[blotcourse]

you're a pedophile enabler you fucking nasty bitch

if wanting people to not treat MAPs like predators for simply having an attraction makes me a "pedophile enabler" then i suppose i am one.

but what i am not is a predator enabler. ill never defend abusive actions or pro/neu-contact MAPs. those guys are the actual predator enablers and theyre the reason why society will always fucking hate us because everyone thinks we are all like them.

non-offending MAPs arent monsters or ""ticking time-bombs"" and im so sick of people like u equating having an uncontrollable attraction to abuse. attraction doesnt equal action. MAP doesnt equal child abuser. btw look into what percentage of CSA perpetrators are MAPs for me would ya? pretty enlightening stuff.

[blotcourse]

"if what i like in fiction doesnt reflect who i am as a person, why cant i threaten real ppl???? checkmate proshitters!!!!!!!"

antis are becoming stupider i think.

[blotcourse]

why am i getting the antis who cant read bro this is unfair to me 💔💔💔 i dont wanna argue w a brick wall 🥀🥀🥀🥀

[ilovemydogaugust]

this reminds me a lot of those comics republicans will make about how crazy woke people are

this has never happened i’m losing my mind

[blotcourse]

its funny u say this bc its based on an interaction i had w an antishipper lol. i wish ppl didnt care so much abt others fictional tastes but ppl (including u!!) care too much abt that shit 🥀🥀

[ilovemydogaugust]

you spend all day debating the ethics of gooning to cartoon kids man i’m sure they’ve said a lot of things that upset you 😭😭

[blotcourse]

hey what can i say: freedom of speech/expression matters a lot to me. i dont think we should be censoring fiction bc it makes u uncomfortable.

[sweet-homeland]

Y'all really think you can do or say anything uh?

[blotcourse]

when it comes to fiction yeah.

let me guess: something-something nuance and limits to the first amendment blah-blah-blah. just let ppl draw and write in peace bro

[sweet-homeland]

So you can say racist and misogynistic things not in the context of the character's views and/or in a way that doesn't show how bad and harmful these views are? So you can post fascist things in fiction without condoning it? Also we're not from the USA (nice defaultism shit btw) we're literally German && Arab I think we have a word in this. Also. Uh yeah nuances are important yk???

[blotcourse]

>talks abt the first amendment in my previous reply >"y'all really think you can do or say anything uh?" >responds still on the topic of the first amendment >"nice defaultism shit btw"

idgaf follow ur laws or break them or whatever. i genuinely dont care where ur from. all im saying is that fiction (no matter how disgusting or disturbing u find it to be) shouldnt be censored + portraying bad things in fiction doesnt automatically mean u support those bad things. u can disagree and seethe all day but ur not changing my mind. america is shit but at least i can be a cringe freak and piss off pro-censorship ppl like u!!!!

ur points are stupid. scream into the abyss for all i care :3

[ilovemydogaugust]

this reminds me a lot of those comics republicans will make about how crazy woke people are

this has never happened i’m losing my mind

[blotcourse]

its funny u say this bc its based on an interaction i had w an antishipper lol. i wish ppl didnt care so much abt others fictional tastes but ppl (including u!!) care too much abt that shit 🥀🥀

[ilovemydogaugust]

you spend all day debating the ethics of gooning to cartoon kids man i’m sure they’ve said a lot of things that upset you 😭😭

[blotcourse]

hey what can i say: freedom of speech/expression matters a lot to me. i dont think we should be censoring fiction bc it makes u uncomfortable.

[sweet-homeland]

Y'all really think you can do or say anything uh?

[blotcourse]

when it comes to fiction yeah.

let me guess: something-something nuance and limits to the first amendment blah-blah-blah. just let ppl draw and write in peace bro

[teru-kuromi-deactivated20251227]

how antis look at you when you tell them nobody in real life gives a fuck about what you ship, even if its incestuous.

[fight-nights-at-freddys]

*grabs antis by the shoulders and shakes ‘em a lil* when we say fiction doesn’t affect reality we mean it doesn’t affect it on a 1:1 scale, not that it can’t affect reality! we know fiction can elicit emotions, and can be used to help us cope with trauma, or as escapism for day-to-day life, and that those are examples of fiction affecting reality, BUT we also know that watching violent media doesn’t make you a violent person! you see how these two ideas can coexist right? please god tell me you see how those two ideas can coexist

[sheepknife]

"proshippers are anti-harassment!" i'm not. if drawings are on the same level of childhood sexual abuse to you and you call drawings "csem" please fucking die

[mockingjaimes]

you were abused by a proshipper and i was abused by antishipper. do i get a pass to call all antishippers abusers now? no. you see where youre going wrong, right? your abuser was an abuser because they were a fucking abuser. being anti censorship doesnt make you more capable of abuse

First off, No, you don't get to generalize a group of people who are literally AGAINST abuse as abusers. Antishippers literally try as hard as they can to PREVENT abuse.

Second, Being "anti harassment" DOES make you more capable of abuse because you normalize the fucked up shit people ship. I wouldn't have had fantasies of my parents sexually abusing me if I hadn't become a proshipper, because that introduced me to things I shouldn'tve known about.

Third, most if not all proshippers are either current abusers if not future abusers. I know this because I almost went down that path myself.

You're just dead wrong about everything here.

[blotcourse]

sorry to burst ur bubble but there are abusers in every community. predators LOVE hiding behind moral righteousness. and damn the antiship community is perfect for that. heres a whole list of real life examples!!!!

antishippers protect fictional kids more than they protect real ones dawg LMAOOO. the whole point is that theyre pro-censorship for "problematic fiction". what abt that tells u that theyre anti-abuse???

also "i almost became an abuser when i was a proshipper so every proshipper is doomed to be a future abuser" is an insane take. self-report that u shouldnt be engaging w problematic fiction in the first place. its not our job to babysit u or to save u from urself. hope this helps!!!!

[mockingjaimes]

As if proship pedos don't hide behind moral righteousness... "Oh look at us we're so right!! Look at the EVIL antishippers!!! We're WAAAY better than them because we don't stand up against disgusting shit haha!! But if you breathe at us wrong we'll send you 20 anonymous asks that are all personal attacks!! But we're totally anti harassment!!" Okay whatever.

And wow! A whole list of people doing bad things and acting like that's the entirety of the community! That certainly hasn't been used against certain groups before!

Also we're "pro censorship" for problematic fiction BECAUSE we're anti abuse. We know that those kinds of fictions can affect the way a person views the world in one way or another and that they're the perfect material for grooming kids. And don't go "B-But anything can be used as grooming material!" because you KNOW that fucked up shit has a much higher prevalence of being used to hurt children.

And no, I shouldn'tve been interacting with problematic fiction, but as I've said before on this blog, I was groomed into it. And yeah, it sort of IS your job to "babysit" people as you call it. The internet is a group project. Everyone from everywhere is here. You either keep that shit private or don't make it at all because literally ANYBODY can find it. You can't post something out in the public eye and then go "but I'm not responsible for harm I cause with this!!" You sound like a fucking corporation's Liability section of a TOS.

[blotcourse]

um i did say predators like to hide behind moral righteousness in general. but whatever tell me this: do u think a predator would rather hide in a community that doesnt hide their (fictional) degenerate interests or a community that claims to be safer because they hate "freaks"? i think predators would chose the latter for obvious reasons.

proshippers dont harass ppl for their fictional interests usually--theres always bad apples. antishippers made a whole community of doing exactly that (harassing ppl for liking dark fiction). im not too sympathetic to antis getting a taste of their own medicine (though i am against suibaiting and doxxing and all that illegal shit obv). also ur crying abt harassment while actively harassing others soooooo. shrug.

wow it looks like calling out and compiling a list of predators is now [insert minority here]-phobic!!!! u dont wanna go there w me bc im a part of the most stigmatized group in the world. its so stigmatized theres barely any research on us bc whenever researchers try to conduct studies they get a huge amount of backlash from the public for even trying to "humanize" us. i think ud tell me to kms if i told u what i am. :3

anywho censorship in general isnt good. learn some damn history. anything CAN be used to groom minors. lets ban puppies and candy and social media too while we are at it. we can never be too careful. (/sarc) i want some evidence for that problematic fiction is prevalent in grooming bc i looked into it and couldnt find anything to support that. try again.

its not ur fault for being groomed but u need to understand that a horrible individual is at fault for introducing u to that material when u werent ready for it--it wasnt the entire community. i had to unlearn my generalized hatred for antishippers bc i thought the same way u did. i wish u luck in establishing a healthy relationship w fiction in general and w ur healing.

nope. nobody on the internet is obligated to watch over u or anyone. ppl post all sorts of insane shit on the internet and its a huge pain in the ass but u NEED to actively go out of ur way to avoid things that upset u. proshippers arent obligated to censor themselves for u just bc their work makes u uncomfortable. theyre doing u a huge favor by trigger tagging their work and its up to u to filter those tags out. this is also hilarious coming from someone going out of their way to go through proship tags just to harass ppl LMAO.

[mockingjaimes]

you were abused by a proshipper and i was abused by antishipper. do i get a pass to call all antishippers abusers now? no. you see where youre going wrong, right? your abuser was an abuser because they were a fucking abuser. being anti censorship doesnt make you more capable of abuse

First off, No, you don't get to generalize a group of people who are literally AGAINST abuse as abusers. Antishippers literally try as hard as they can to PREVENT abuse.

Second, Being "anti harassment" DOES make you more capable of abuse because you normalize the fucked up shit people ship. I wouldn't have had fantasies of my parents sexually abusing me if I hadn't become a proshipper, because that introduced me to things I shouldn'tve known about.

Third, most if not all proshippers are either current abusers if not future abusers. I know this because I almost went down that path myself.

You're just dead wrong about everything here.

[blotcourse]

sorry to burst ur bubble but there are abusers in every community. predators LOVE hiding behind moral righteousness. and damn the antiship community is perfect for that. heres a whole list of real life examples!!!!

antishippers protect fictional kids more than they protect real ones dawg LMAOOO. the whole point is that theyre pro-censorship for "problematic fiction". what abt that tells u that theyre anti-abuse???

also "i almost became an abuser when i was a proshipper so every proshipper is doomed to be a future abuser" is an insane take. self-report that u shouldnt be engaging w problematic fiction in the first place. its not our job to babysit u or to save u from urself. hope this helps!!!!

[dead-dyke]

You wrote about murder?? Murder is illegal?? You wrote about this dude killing someone and you didn’t even say ‘murder is bad’ at the start of the book, wht wtf, wtf is wrong with you? I can’t believe you condone murder, I can’t believe you’re pro murber, oh my fucking God don'ttalk to me when ou literally kill people, freak. I’m calling the cops, what the fuck, I’m shaking and crying.

[blotcourse]

why are 80% of antis' arguments "proshippers also do this too" or "that doesnt happen!! [ABOUT A POST BASED OFF OF AN INTERACTION]" this particular post is especially weird bc of tiktok antis deliberately being ableist to people with objectums (as in people saying to "take their meds")

ugh fr though!!!!!!

[blotcourse]

i keep forgetting anti-paras dont understand harm reduction.

[ilovemydogaugust]

this reminds me a lot of those comics republicans will make about how crazy woke people are

this has never happened i’m losing my mind

[blotcourse]

its funny u say this bc its based on an interaction i had w an antishipper lol. i wish ppl didnt care so much abt others fictional tastes but ppl (including u!!) care too much abt that shit 🥀🥀

[ilovemydogaugust]

you spend all day debating the ethics of gooning to cartoon kids man i’m sure they’ve said a lot of things that upset you 😭😭

[blotcourse]

hey what can i say: freedom of speech/expression matters a lot to me. i dont think we should be censoring fiction bc it makes u uncomfortable.

[ilovemydogaugust]

last time i checked there wasn’t a law against uncomfortable fics but yeah this is a really huge issue THIS is what you should dedicate a tumblr blog to perhaps our most riveting censorship in the year 2025

[blotcourse]

i can do whatever i want forever. die mad about it.

[ilovemydogaugust]

this reminds me a lot of those comics republicans will make about how crazy woke people are

this has never happened i’m losing my mind

[blotcourse]

its funny u say this bc its based on an interaction i had w an antishipper lol. i wish ppl didnt care so much abt others fictional tastes but ppl (including u!!) care too much abt that shit 🥀🥀

[ilovemydogaugust]

you spend all day debating the ethics of gooning to cartoon kids man i’m sure they’ve said a lot of things that upset you 😭😭

[blotcourse]

hey what can i say: freedom of speech/expression matters a lot to me. i dont think we should be censoring fiction bc it makes u uncomfortable.

[blotcourse]

i bring a sort of "demonizing MAPs is not helpful for anyone" vibe that antishippers and proshippers dont rlly like

[ilovemydogaugust]

i bring a sort of ‘people who fuck kids should just be allowed to do that and just be left alone’ vibe that people who go outside don’t rlly like

[blotcourse]

i dont know why ppl have such loud opinions on stuff they dont understand. also i never said MAPs should be allowed to fuck kids? what are u on??

heres a good read for u!!