🐒 can't even spell "James " properly and you want to go into strictly adult space to discourse with people🤡🤡
I know how to fucking spell James, but MY NAME is JAIMES, with the I included. That is what I call myself and I can spell it however I want, including fucking Jaeyimz if I want. Don't tell me I can't spell my own fucking name. And you have the nerve to basically call me a monkey LMAO. Shut the fuck up.
Also the fuck do you mean, "strictly adult space?" If you're talking about the proshit community, then that's wrong. There are multiple minors in that community and I was one of them. God gave you a brain maybe you should fucking use it.
Insulting the way I spell MY OWN NAME is some next level stupid shit because imagine having literally no good insults and having to resort to scum-level shit.
I remeber seeing this one proshipper be all like "erm i hope you know that your in the same league as thoose karens who talk about video games making you violent"..
Like, that is the stupidest shit i've ever heard. Not wanting topic's such as rape, or incest to be sexualized and treated like a joke isnt the same as thinking that video games should be banned cause "they make you violent."
Seriously, if i had a nickel for every time a proshipper said the most, dumbest crap to defend themselves I'd practically be rich lmao.
It's disgusting how predators use the fear tactic of "If you're against us, then you're against LGBT" or claim that "If proship content gets banned then all LGBT content will be banned".
Ironically this narrative is extremely detrimental to LGBT rights because it gives far right voices the fuel they need to validate the false ideology that all LGBT people are predatory.
You people are literally contributing to the thing you're accusing others of doing.
What better excuse would a n*zi have to outlaw LGBT rights than to have a narrative that they're all into p*do, zoo, or other filth? It's also hilarious because a TON of far right losers are proshitters too. Same excuses from them as well. "Puritan, you're trying to attack straight men!". Same shit, different color.
Stop using marginalized people to validate your sickness.
Turns out "censorship" is only an issue when predatory deranged freaks are "targeted".
It's also BS that they always use the "you don't care about victims" statements, when they constantly harrass and threaten victims or tell them "your trauma doesn't concern me". Or worse, they romanticize trauma of REAL people for their sick addiction. It's literally the "no one cares for you or understands you" tactic that most abusers use.
Predators have used these tactics for ages, and each time it ended with the same demands. They'll keep pushing the bar lower for more extreme behavior until they get their way, which is why there should be no tolerance for any predatory behaviors or the normalization of it ever.
I think this is a good opportunity to highlight some history on CSAM and pedophilia in general. This context is based on the United States--one of the only western democracies left that have not yet banned VCSAM.
Here is an excerpt from David Thorstad's Wikipedia page. David Thorstad was one of the founding members of NAMBLA (North American Man/Boy Love Association), a pro-pedophilia activism group that was active during the late 70s to late 90s.
Leading up to the 70s, a big focus of feminist and lesbian activism was making CSAM illegal and raising the age of consent. Remember: CSAM was only made illegal in the United states in 1978, and wasn't actually enforced nationwide until the 80s. NAMBLA was working to push back against this, weaponizing LGBTQ rights and freedoms the exact same way we see "MAPs", "radqueers" and other proponents of VCSAM do today. That is, lolicons/proshippers/etc. TODAY use the exact same arguments that NAMBLA used to defend CSAM and the actual practice of pedophilia throughout the 70s-90s.
Below are the actual words and beliefs of David Thorstad himself, from his book written in 1980, "Man/Boy Love and Feminism."
Now more than ever, it is important to look back into queer and feminist history. The issue surrounding pedophilia and the desperation to include it side by side with LGBTQ liberation is not a new phenomenon, but rather a tale as old as time.
Do not let pedophiles weaponize your rights to defend their illnesses. Despite the doomsday predictions of NAMBLA, CSAM was made illegal in the United States--and yet, regardless of this, LGBTQ+ rights and conditions improved drastically between then and now. VCSAM has been banned in democracies across the world with thriving LGBTQ+ communities, like Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Ireland and the UK. The availability of CSAM and VCSAM has nothing to do with the rights of LGBTQ people.
"my incest porn isn't harmful!" it is actually! wether you mean it too or not. (no this is not an advocation for banning, its advocating for stricter regulations). I have linked all the sources though so that if an adult would like to use sources they can use the links.
this is a master post of sources.
adults (anyone over 16) dni on this post.
Pornography writes our sexual scripts
Porn, therefore, shapes our sexual scripts, the norms we internalise about what is expected, normal and acceptable in sexual relationships. Research on sexual strangulation, for example, finds that more frequent consumption of porn leads to greater exposure to pornographic depictions of sexual strangulation which, in turn, predicted a higher likelihood of strangling sexual partners.
Experts voice concern over growth of ‘deviant’ videos, including foster-child abuse fantasies, on Pornhub and other mainstream sites
“We know that for those who have a sexual interest in children the normalisation and encouragement of [child abuse] can escalate behaviour. ‘Fostered children’ are inherently vulnerable and they are being fetishised here. We already know that some adult offenders find vulnerability sexually motivating.”
“This content encourages the idea that children should and can be sexualised. We do sessions with children, and girls tell us about the pressure that their first experience of sex will be having anal sex. Boys will tell us: ‘Girls might say no, but they aren’t really saying no, by the end they will love it.’ We ask where they get this idea and they say it’s porn. It is a picture of confusion – they don’t know what ordinary sexual behaviour is.”
Child sex abuse expert Michael Sheath told the Guardian that he believed a wider cohort of men were being drawn to watching illegal material because of “deviant” incest and abuse fantasies on free-to-watch sites.
Research shows that porn can fuel disconnection—and that doesn’t only translate to those you're in a romantic relationship with.
...viewing pornography impacts more than just the one who uses it — it hurts and victimizes scores of people, seen and unseen.|...viewing po
yes it can be healthy explored by the right people:
Some porn performers have sworn off incest-themed content altogether, regardless of how it affects their income—others aren't so convicted.
And this is one of the worst things we’ve heard: “Some of my fans weren’t nice anymore; they were creepy,” she told The Daily Beast. “One fan told me that he and his wife conditioned their son his whole life until he was old enough to join them in bed. That really got to me. I almost felt like I was helping this kid get sexually abused.”
Once consumers start watching extreme and dangerous sex acts, research shows that things that are disgusting or societally unacceptable can start to seem normal, acceptable, and more common than they really are.
Zillmann, D. (2000). Influence Of Unrestrained Access To Erotica On Adolescents’ And Young Adults’ Dispositions Toward Sexuality. Journal Of Adolescent Health, 27, 2: 41–44. Retrieved From Https://Www.Ncbi.Nlm.Nih.Gov/Pubmed/10904205
contradictory label culture is feeling like most people only understand like fifteen surface identities and never bothered to learn anything else from there
Wow you made a post hating on the idea that lesbians could like men or be men? Oh you hear the word men and think of a Cishet binary men? Oh yeah you are such a good nonbinary ally. No like really the fact you think being a man is inherently binary and has no room for nuance, nonbinary/genderqueerhood or complexity is sooooo progressive and cool of you.
So crazy that people will act like they're so supportive of queer people then hear anything new and then regress back into a cishetalloaro mindset. "Ermmm a platonic polycule? Don't you mean FRIENDSHIP. Wow you guys are SO CHRONICALLY ONLINE!!!" Like wowie great supportive energy you got there Becky. Who gives a fuck. Get funker.
Like ACTUALLY who cares!!! I've never had. Ever. Like I don't even understand how a platonic polycule would look but STILL. I don't call it a friendship! Let labels be. If someone says their relationship is a platonic polycule or anything else. Why would **I** say "oh no it's not"??? Who am I to say that?? I don't know that!?! It's YOUR relationship. And also labels are made up, make up more. It doesn't matter, everything is made up words. There's no physical proof of it so go buck wild.
"Anticensorship" Proshippers when independent journalists are being censored by the government and opposing perspectives are being buried: I mean like . . . not my problem? They probably had a reason for being silenced and the government is cool here since they would've said something I don't agree with. That's on them and it's weally scawy to say anything.
"Anticensorship" Proshippers when they're told to put an NSFW tag on their twincest fic between two 6-year-old brothers or see a 15-year-old have "proship DNI" in their bio: Fascism. Nazi Germany. We're living in (insert overused dystopia book title here) and we're all going to be sent to camps to be mass killed. I'm going to spamcall my governer and plan a revolution because this law they're thinking about MIGHT affect my fanfiction reading.
The whole ”fiction doesn’t affect reality!” argument feels like proshippers are completely ignoring the existence of yumeshippers and fictionkins, you know, people who ARE affected by fiction.
hello! this is my first submission so I hope I'm doing this right.
Antiship culture is feeling like I'm crazy for not supporting ANY kind of sexualized depictions of minors even if it's "just fiction" that kind of thing isn't funny even as it a joke, fiction is not a shield and media doesn't exist in a vacuum, media has done real damage and caused real harm, be it movies like The birth of a nation, or just ideas spread on social media and forms ie.Incel spaces/forums that normalized awful ideas and made them comfortable there, but was it "just text/words"? it then leading to real world attacks taking real lives. Social media posts sharing racist posts towards Indians for the sake of a laugh, Imagine social media having no moderation at all. Like not being able to report posts for hate speech etc for the sake of "anti-censorship" or "free-speech" IT WOULD BE A THOUSAND TIMES MORE RACIST THAN IT ALREADY IS. (mind you fandom spaces are already racist too but talks about it gets overshadowed) sorry I'm ranting, so yeah I don't support a lawless internet, moderation and regulations are very important and keeps people safe, everyone should be free to give informed criticism of the government or share their informed thoughts on real world issues, yknow things of actual value. I do not support people making cp incest r*pe fics or art to get their rockers off. I'm not anti-censorship, The birth of a nation should've been censored. I'm not pro-fiction, fiction has historically been used to justify killing black people (and all people of colour) and lets not forget how proship/fic spaces has used it to groom real children and encourage them to draw nsfw of awful stuff
You see, if you don't call for the death of a minority group it's actually misgendering, I am very smart
The trans men being called whiny bitches and cunts for talking about the oppression we face would rightly be called out if they were to call for the death of a minority group just because some members of it are being misogynistic shitheads.
I've experienced misogyny as a neurodivergent person seen at the time as a woman by neurodivergent men, but it would be ableist and fucked up to say "kill all neurodivergent men," even though I was treated poorly. I don't think it's cool to call for the death of a marginalized group of men, even when some members of that group suck.
There's misogynistic gay men, but if you say "kill all gay men" you are being homophobic and I hope you get persistent hemorrhoids.
Proshippers be like "block and move on" but when we do, some of them just go on anon asks to say the most vile shit imaginable (sometimes to users who they KNOW are minors) while acting morally superior.
And since said proshippers use anon asks to do that, I can't "block and move on" like THEY THEMSELVES say we should do, so which is it then????
"hngghhh the western side of the anime fandom can't handle lolis, uncultured swines!!"
Said almost every single time by a lolicon WHO'S ALSO FROM THE WESTERN SIDE. Half the time I see someone type that, it's always from someone living in the United States
