[maidenvault]

Not “Only my reading of canon is correct” or “Interpretations are subjective and all valid” but a secret third thing, “More than one interpretation can be valid but there’s a reason your English teacher had you cite quotes and examples in your papers, you have to have a strong argument that your interpretation is actually supported by the text or it is just wrong and I’m fine with telling you it’s wrong, actually.”

[reign-of-the-kitkats-deactivate]

Arcane fans try not to be classist because characters are born from the "poorer" end of their nation/country challenge: impossible

[blueraith]

Holy fuck I despise this headcanon with the white hot intensity of ten thousand suns. Just flames, flames on the sides of my face.....

No, but seriously, what a gross take. There's absolutely no reason to even have it to begin with. How often do y'all even think about whether or not a character can read in any other media? You just assume they can, right?

But the very MOMENT y'all got even a taste of a classism plot, y'all immediately assume that the poor kid can't read. Powder obviously reads, y'all think she wouldn't have helped Vi as kids? Or Vander who own a business and would need to do bookkeeping and inventory? Or Claggor who apparently becomes an inventor in his own right in the alternate universe? You don't get as far as he did in only seven years if you're coming from illiteracy, he would have had to spend YEARS catching up before moving on to the sciences. Ekko and even Benzo would have been around to help too.

All the Zaun kids can fucking read you goddamn numpties.

[blueraith]

It's freeing to not be a former Nintendo kid lmao. $80 games? $450 console? Pfft, I might as well get a Steam Deck at a higher price. The VAST majority of gaming costs come from the games. Nintendo already is notorious for very rare sales. Might as well go to a platform that already has a sizable library from all my PC gaming AND has crazy sales.

[blueraith]

It's kinda wild how well the caitvi tag cleans up after blocking any and all "x reader" tag combinations. Like, I honestly have absolutely nothing against the concept. It's not really my thing, but I have nothing against folks who like that content.

My issue is more about just how badly many of the authors who write these posts format them. There's rarely a "read more" cut, so I'm just scrolling through these, at times, very long posts that flood the tag. I also, ngl, don't really get the point of tagging them caitvi if it's not actually about the ship. It's kinda like tagging caitvi on a jay/vik post when it has nothing to do with them.

Idk, just seems like "x reader" fics are becoming a littering issue due to mistagging and poor formatting. Kinda just makes folks who aren't crazy about them but hold nothing against them disregard the entire concept on tumblr.

[somewillwin]

Day 90 cleansing the #caitvi tl

Family time either baby Cathy cat

Kofi

[sapphicgaymaster]

I know no one is going to actually read this but fuck oh my god

I've been in multiple fandoms over the years and never EVER in my life I've seen people have such visceral reactions towards a character like Caitlyn Kirammam.

There are mulpitle characters with way WAY more questionable actions than hers and I barely see anything of them...like people may don't like them but it's never in such an insane degree...

People bringing up real life tragedies when talking about her is so triggering :( both my grandparents are Syrian refugees and to see people talking abt genocide so casually it's just so insane.

Sorry but hating a fictional character it's not the activism you think it is... like fuck off you live in Ohio you know nothing about opression, let people enjoy stuff in peace.

[blueraith]

Most of her most asinine critics are teenagers from at the very least middle class families safely sequestered away from the ugliest sides of reality in a blue state or blue city in America. You can tell because of the way they romanticize human suffering to make their shitty online hot takes about fictional media spicier as they've never personally faced any significant hardship in their lives. Also the extreme tendency to view content in a very Americanized way as they hamfistedly try to one-to-one fit Arcane's societal issues to the only thing they know.

Or at least, that's the intent. In reality, they come off utterly ignorant.

Yeah, fiction has real-life parallels, but they're not actually talking about Caitlyn like that. They're making shit up about her actions wholesale to give themselves moral superiority. It's frankly insufferable, and I just block Caitlyn haters on sight now. I no longer care to take the time to see if their dislike is nuanced or interesting. Nine times out of ten, you check their bio, and it's a sixteen year old with zero real-world experience mouthing off lmao

[blueraith]

Kids these days need to learn the concept of "Don't start none, won't be none."

[alumi-san]

Out of all Zaun siblings only Vi has a white-skinned partner.

[blueraith]

"Supposed to be half-asian"

No. She is half-asian, full stop

"You know what I mean"

No, actually, I don't. Or maybe I do. Because this looks like yet another attempt to whitewash Caitlyn and ignore her mixed heritage yet again.

[blueraith]

I think there's some sort of fundamental problem a portion of the fanbase has with Show Don’t Tell.

You know, words verses action.

"The show never addresses Vi's trauma!"

Genuinely, what the fuck are y'all talking about? Pit Fighter Vi was nothing but a walking case of trauma if I've ever seen one. She descends briefly into alcoholism for fucks sake. Why do y'all THINK she was purposely allowing the shit to get beaten out of her, drink away the pain, and then repeat the next day. Some of y'all even want MORE of this fucking whump and somehow that doesn't translate as Vi literally living out her trauma in the most unhealthy way possible????

I'm literally confounded whenever I see this sentiment.

Of what about: "Caitlyn never apologizes!"

Huh????

What the fuck do y'all THINK Caitlyn was doing as she had that tender touch and look at the same spot she hit Vi during the sex scene? Or gave up her generational Council seat to a representative of Zaun if NOT to apologize for how she treated it? Or personally lead the front line defense of Piltover and lost a fucking eye for?

It's like y'all need Vi to stare directly at the audience and state "Yeah, prison fucked me up, fighting with my sister makes me sad, and breaking up with my not-girlfriend-girlfriend has sent me into a spiral that I don't know how get out of. I'm going to drink and punch away my problems until the pain becomes too much to bear, and then I'm going to risk dying in my fights to end the pain."

Evidently y'all need your hands held this much.

Or Cait: "Hello, I'm Caitlyn Kiramman, generational wealth here. My trauma and grief became out of control, and I hurt people through my own pain. I'm very sorry about that. Sorry for hitting Vi, sorry for declaring martial law on Zaun, sorry for getting mixed up with a Noxian warlord. I've given up the Kiramman seat and will use my wealth and influence to help, not hurt, for the rest of my life. Oh, I also sacrificed an eye. That was kinda a big deal to me, I don't regret it, though."

Like, what the fuck did y'all want? Even if I wanted to bother writing all that shit in character, it just comes off cringe as fuck. I'm not exactly a novice writer either, this is just frankly something Caitlyn would never do. She doesn't verbalize her feelings this way and never has.

But evidently some of you actually need Caitlyn to stand up at a podium and deliver some lame fucking apology with words for it to count in your minds. The actions don't matter, only the words do, because y'all can't recognize actions in place of words to save your lives.

This isn't even just relegated to Caitvi.

"They forgot about the sisters and their relationship!"

WHAT DO YOU MEAN??????????????

What were episodes 5 and 6 for if not the sisters and their relationship???????

What's hilarious about this one is that it comes the closest to actually just being outright verbally stated for y'all to follow and you still missed it. This whole story beat is basically a slowpitch softball being lobbed lazily at the audience to hit out of the park and some of y'all whiffed it so badly, you're cartoonishly spinning around on your back foot after your swing, Looney Tunes style.

There's an actual fucking letter Jinx reads out that's about Vander and Silco but is so obviously a parallel for Jinx and Vi that it's kind of embarrassing this is even a talking point in the fandom. The characters themselves literally even realize and see themselves in their fathers' broken relationship for fucks sake.

There's even a sibling fight and everything.

Vi basically wanted to stay at the commune with her family until Jayce showed up and fucked everything up. (For good reason.)

I do have some personal nitpicks about the sister stuff, but to say that it was "forgotten" is grossly false. Hilariously so.

Guess this is what y'all wanted:

"Hey, Jinx, I'm trying really hard to be a family with you again, prison fucked me up, and so it's kinda hard to get my mind around my new reality. Except you've been rejecting me and blowing shit up since I got out, I don't know what to do with that, so I'm spiraling."

"Well, geez, Vi, I have a whole slew of mental trauma and illnesses that are undiagnosed, so that's not helping things, but I'm also really mad that you worked together with a Piltovan enforcer after all our family has been through. I also have this whole "favorite person" thing going on that's really triggering the shit out of me that I don't know what to do with."

It's this what y'all wanted? Firstly, when is a well written and in character version of the above supposed to take place, and secondly for all that y'all bray about trauma and projecting your own responses on fictional characters (see any time someone is upset that Vi doesn't arbitrarily flinch at enforcers and Caitlyn like they think she should) don't y'all MAYBE think that neither Vi or Jinx are in a position to be this self aware about their own emotions and feelings? We're talking about two extremely traumatized young women from a mutual broken family doing the best they fucking can. It's not even close to adequate because it's not MEANT TO BE.

These things among many others are so frustrating to see the fandom nitpick. Media literacy and Show Don't Tell are two subjects being defensively criticized whenever anyone brings it up because y'all think we're using it to browbeat criticism away.

We're not. We're using it because y'all evidently are missing key plot points and then turn around and accuse the show of never addressing them. It's frankly bizarre. How are y'all watching the show? Is it on a second screen? The other room? At 2x speed? Are you on tiktok while you watch?

How are y'all missing this? And could you please rewatch the show before making these brain-dead "criticisms?" I promise I'm going to be fucking pissed if TV in the future has to have every character flat out state their emotions, motivations, and thoughts at the camera for y'all to fucking get it. This is just sad.

[blueraith]

"Vi and Cait should have broken up until Zaun was freed!"

Jesus fuck, once again, for the 1,485th time, Vi's concerns throughout the show have little to nothing to do with Zaun's political issues. Ekko. You are talking about Ekko. Who also evidently saw no need to wait until after the conflict to ally with Jinx. You know. The woman who's been killing off all his friends and attempted to blow him up at least once. And yet y'all never seem to bitch about how little in-universe Timebomb makes sense according to your own standards.

The standards Vi and Caitvi in general are held to compared to other characters are frankly ridiculous.

"Caitlyn hit Vi!"

Jayce fucking shot a hole in Viktor's chest.

Yet I don't go around to the other ship tags talking about stupid shit that ultimately does not fucking matter to the overall plot or enjoyment of the story presented.

No. It would not have made for a better show if Cait and Vi didn't make up until after some nebulous and far-fetched ideal about Zaun was reached.

(Y'all should be more pissed at Jinx for setting Zaun's full independence back by years at this rate for blowing up the council. Whoops, guess blind acts of violence while actively--and successfully mind you--negotiating your own sovereignty doesn't work, actually.)

Anyway, that shit would have been lame as fuck, perpetuates the idea that Vi can never just have what she fucking wants without constantly sacrificing herself for the sake of others, and turns the show's message into some Saturday morning cartoon, moralistic, and boring bullshit.

[stealingpotatoes]

my cat still doesn't get that we have different definitions of 'acceptable breakfast time'

[maridotnet]

saw a drawing of this on Instagram with basically no muscle??? and it made me so mad that I drew my own version. anyway this is my first arcane fanart, I hope you like it

[greatbananaboat]

people who hate on vi except when shes living her whole life slaving away for jinx and jinx’s well-being and being 100% selfless constantly is. interesting.

interesting bc i’m the oldest sister in my family and that’s exactly what my parents expect of me.

how odd and silly that some people continue to parentify older sisters and refuse to care about them as characters when they aren’t constantly putting their sibling first.

that’s how i feel whenever i see a post about how vi’s character was completely sacrificed and then the explanation is all abt how she chose caitlyn and not jinx for the nth time.

[official-vi-arcane]

your first part was great but you’ve got to be joking lmao season two fucked me up bad. it’s completely going against everything i stand for by making me have sex with an actual DICTATOR instead of going after my sister. would you do that? if your sibling told you they were going to off themself you’d just go “eh, probably not that bad” and have sex with someone who tried to kill them? y’all are actually clowns 🤡

[greatbananaboat]

okay hon.

not worth doing a full rundown of all your shitty points so here we go

caitlyn isnt a dictator, shes just enforcing martial law, vi (is that you?) couldn’t really have known jinx was going to kill herself because in the moment it sounded more like jinx was just trying to get away from her and she was telling vi not to go after her, and if caitlyn rlly wanted to kill jinx, she would have.

think that’s everything. u have a good day! :)

[bwat5-blog]

OP- Excellent post!

You-

[blueraith]

What is with these shitty, allegedly "in character" blogs? They're always pretty bad at actually acting like the character they've claimed, but this one probably has to be one of the worst I've seen lmao. What was that? A Jinx stan pretending to be Vi?

Also, Jinx did not tell Vi she was going to "off herself." Vi DID NOT KNOW what she was going to do. You know how Jinx has been one of the least predictable characters in the entire show? Yeah. She's also shimmer infused and has that super dashing/speed bullshit, at least a several hours long head start after locking Vi into a cell, and ultimately went back to the secret hideout Vi and Caitlyn NEVER FOUND.

So, what in the actual fuck was Vi even supposed to do even if she knew Jinx was in a bad place mentally? You know, after a certain point (which Jinx has crossed multiple times), you kinda just need to acknowledge that Jinx is ultimately responsible for herself and her own actions. She locked the one person willing to go to the ends of the fucking earth for her in a cell to go off and commit more bullshit. Sad and understandable bullshit (which is why I do ultimately like Jinx), but bullshit all the same.

You can't help someone who doesn't want it and rejects every offer you make in good faith.

And that's why I'm almost certain this terrible Vi roleplayer is actually a Jinx stan with a Halloween Party Store mustache and glasses diaguise. Jinx stans NEVER hold Jinx accountable for her own actions in the plot. It's always someone else's fault when she makes poor choices. It's never on Jinx in their own minds.

And when they have the option to blame Vi specifically for Jinx's stupid decisions? They'll commit whatever mental gymnastics needed to do so gleefully because Vi never deserves even half of the same consideration Jinx gets in their minds.

It's boring interacting with them because they are utterly unable to see nuance. Not even from Jinx. She's a Saturday morning cartoon hero in their minds. It's an entirely childish way to analyze the entire show, and yet they think this take is some hot shit.

It'd be sad if it weren't so obnoxious.

[five-one-two-station]

It would be quite silly indeed to get too hung up on potential power imbalance between Caitlyn & Vi when the show has a solid 7-10 minute supercut's worth of Caitlyn spluttering her little token protests before immediately doing exactly whatever Vi just told her to do.

[sg-brainrot]

Vi: Get me out of jail. Cait: "In what mad world would I trust someone like you?" Cait: (Does it anyway.)

Cait: "I heard the bathysphere as a new view. Could be a good way to get the lay of the land." Vi: Parkour! Cait: *resigned sigh*

Vi: Ditch your uniform and put this on instead. Cait: (Starts stripping in a filthy back alley.)

Vi: Pretend to be a prostitute. Cait: "Yes! Matilda! My parents named me Matilda, after my great-grandmother Matilda..."

Vi: "Gonna help me up, Cupcake?" Cait: "Stop calling me that." (Does it anyway.) Vi: "But you're so sweet, like a cupcake!" Cait: "Shut up." (Secretly likes it.)

[five-one-two-station]

All good examples, but lets not forget some of the S2 hits like -

Vi: "If you can't stop the Invasion then just make the terms yours."

Caitlyn:"I don't know how! Anyway ok that's what we're doing now".

(Comes with bonus side dip of Caitlyn using very Vi style bluster tactics to get her way with the Council, btw)

Vi: "Cut the other Enforcers loose!"

Caitlyn: "That's deranged but sure".

Vi: "My Dad is in trouble"

Caitlyn: "Betray physically monumental warlord from globally feared Imperialist power and incite war against my home city of ridiculous dandies and fops for Father-In-Law's new Fursona. Got it. Spit on me also?"

Vi: "-What"

Caitlyn: "-What"

Caitlyn: "-would u like my net."

Vi: "I am awake".

Caitlyn: "Maddie go play with your toys-".

Vi: "-I can't believe you arrested my mom-exploding sister and put her somewhere we previously established is one of the safest places in Piltover. "

Caitlyn: "I didn't arrest her"

Vi: "Okay, can she have a 19th second chance tho."

Caitlyn: ">:(

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Yes : )"

Extra bonus -

[bwat5-blog]

This is AMAZING

[blueraith]

Caitlyn is easily one of the most unhinged characters in the show and I'm so here for it lmao

Power imbalance between her and Vi? Dears, she does whatever the fuck Vi wants her to. I'm not entirely certain if Vi realizes the power that she has, either.

She's got Piltover's most valuable scion ready and willing to do anything she asks. Anything.

And y'all wanna bitch she's the opressed* member of their pairing? (*Gotta leave out one 'p' to use the proper, moronic term the antis love parroting from one another lol.)

Please. The arguments against Caitvi are steadily more ridiculous

[blueraith]

What's that? The sex scene was unnecessary to the plot, you say?

Sorry, can't hear you over the Annie Award it won.

[blueraith]

Literally, what is that person talking about? Like you’re defending CaitVi not the other way around Lord SMH 

No clue, they're either confused or trolling. Sure, shouldn't feed them but eh. Sometimes I like getting my hands dirty lol

[blueraith]

I mean, I'll be blocking you. I have no problem with that, and glad you're not going to be offended.

But in an increasingly hostile world, can't we practice kindness and consideration for each other? Can't we use the quick, simple, easy tools that allow people to curate their online experience?

(I suspect you're already aware, but just in case, the tag is #anti caitvi)

What are you talking about? I post Caitvi defense posts along with art reblogs and silly nonsense most of the time. Look, do what you want, but it's wild you're coming into my ask box with whatever this is