okay i had to rummage around and find the password to this old account to get this out there because i thought too hard about this dumb little block game and now i need to get this out there. if this is well known now (idk i haven't been on tumblr in years, who knows what's been happening) then oh well, i'm a fool. still wanna put my thoughts out there tho
so all throughout Eps 5-8 of Season 1 of MCSM we get hints here and there for us to put together that Soren was an old builder. yeah i know, old news, whatever. but in Season 2 Ep 4, we find one of Soren's books in Fred's house after we win the trivia contest (or lose and break in, whatever) called "The Brave Little Enderman" or something like that, right? as Jesse reads it, it seems pretty amateur for a "great author" like Soren, and also, how the hell did Fred even get his hands on it in the first place?
Well thinking about it further, in S1Ep5, Ivor mentions that the Old Builders existed even before the Order of the Stone (go figure), but then someone else (i think Jesse as one of the dialogue options) says they didn't know there WAS anything before the Order. This implies the people and history of this world, as well as the world itself, is very new.
This actually lines up with my thoughts, as I think Fred (and possibly Romeo and Xara idk) met Soren and the other Old Builders before the Underneath and the Sunshine Institute got bedrocked, and gave them access to the Command Block in the first place, with Soren giving Fred one of his first ever books he wrote as thanks.
Then after the events of Fred dying, Xara losing her powers and Romeo bedrocking everything and creating the new current world, Soren moved in from the Old Builder's world as one of the first people to live there. He then assembled the order, and the story pretty much goes on from there.
I thought way too hard about this and it only took, what, several dozen rewatches of playthroughs for it to finally click in my brain what happened? I care about this game way too much lmao
idk if @stirpicus still responds to questions and theories, but if he gives this a read and puts in his two cents (whether its confirming or not, i understand he likes to keep things cryptic so fans have fun interpreting things their own way) i honestly wouldn't complain
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