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Brotherhood of Steel all the way , the more the merrier !!
AD VICTORIAM BROTHERS AND SISTERS !!!
What do you think of Damar?
Totally love Damar !! Bummer how he spent seasons 4 to 6 as a borderline background character , but then you start getting an idea of what kind of guy he is during the Arc where DS9 is briefly taken by the Dominion , and you can’t help but relate . He’s not bad or evil , just stern and dutiful , and occasionally snarky as frak ! And then season 7 barges in and you want to slap Weyoun repeatedly for disrespecting Damar all the frakking time , he gets into that state of perpetual self-loathing that just worsens when he realizes that the Dominion is choking Cardassia slowly and he’s doing nothing to stop it and then OMFG Damar becomes the leader of a Revolution and stop following people to become a full-fledged Leader himself . And then he dies ... Heroically . But he dies . And it made me sad .
Not Trek related at all or anything ( obviously ) Here’s the Cover page for my End Year assignment in Illustration , a short story about a German pilot and Officer during the very last days of WW2 who is going to lead his Squadron over occupied Germany to surrender to the Americans in order to save his men from a dreadful fate as prisoners of War in the Soviet Union . I feel like it’s obvious but i also feel like i have to write it down so people don’t get offended : There’s nothing political to this , i’m just a huge History nerd and i love WW2 aviation , particularly the Luftwaffe , which i Reenact as a JU-87 “ Stuka ” pilot , hence the choice of the bird here . The only political thing that you might find in my work is my humble attempt to make people realize that not all German soldiers were nazi lunatics , and some were just as honorable and brave as any Allied soldier . Oh well , like it , hate it , report it , whatever floats your boat really ! :)
Home away from home by Larbesta
Awesome serie of portraits from your most beloved ( and hated ) characters of DS9 , i love it !!
I just saw your art on ds9's Niners, and I just want to say thank you! It's so cool!!!
Thanks to you for your kind comment !! :) You have no idea how much it means to an artist to read such things :D :D
hi! you bio says that there nsfw, would it be tagged?
Yes , i always tag NSFW , but at the moment there isn’t any :)
The 3 subsections of ds9 fans on tumblr are kira stans, quodo stans, and lizard fuckers
outraged at my identity of “worm fucker” being erased like this
Kiradax stan erasure and I won’t stand for it
So I spent 2 minutes sitting on the toilet planning this post, but based on everyone’s comments I’ve come up with an updated system:
1. Kira/Dax stans (includes kira stans, worm fuckers, ezri stans and kiradax stans)
2. Quodo stans (self-explanatory)
3. Lizard fuckers (also covers garashir stans)
Lizard fuckers<3
Oh well then , Lizard fuckers represent ! :-3
Hey guys,
I am very excited to finally announce the launch of my official website and freelance company: RMF Studios.
There you can find examples of my art, including Honour Amongst Thieves, Games Fanart, and Neopets all archived in one place, as well concept work I did on Assassin’s Creed: Origins. If you’re curious what I’ve been up to, now’s your chance to head on over and take a look!
I am also available for contract and freelance work. Simply contact me via my website, or alternatively you can drop me an email directly at [email protected].
I cannot thank you guys enough for all the support thus far, and I hope you will stick around for this next leg of my journey!
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Not Trek related , but you people have to check her work !! SAK is one of the most awesome artist out there , she makes absolutely kickass SWTOR fanart , and her work has been an inspiration for like ... forever ;) Also , her AC Origins stuff is beyond amazing , just see for yourself
Just in general really.
Woah , well , that’s just … too general , i’ll need specifics xD In short and general , i think that Cardassians aren’t half as bad as people say ( in-universe ) and definitely not as evil as the Producers want us to think . I mean , come to think about it , Cardassians have occupied a single planet for 50 years , in a rather brutal fashion but it didn’t started that way , and out of necessity to end starvation on Cardassia . End result : they’re the bad guys of the Alpha Quadrant , an inherently evil and oppressive space nazis . They killed what , “ just ” a couple million Bajorans , over the course of 50 years ? It sounds pretty frakkin bad , sure , but next to them you still have the Klingons : They have been at War with the Federation several times , they pull out of the Khitomer accords every other decade , they don’t invade their neighbors out of necessity , they do it for the kicks , and we know for a fact that they commit mindless massacres wherever they go . Take the same 50 years during which the Occupation took place , how many millions died because of the Klingons you think ? Just because their honour dictated that they needed to fight the nearest person , regardless of whether or not he was even able to defend himself . Because that’s too much detail for the Klingons , as they have proved in DS9 by attacking the Cardassian outposts and colonies , killing thousands of civilians because “ perhaps there’s a Changeling in the Cardassian government but really this is just an excuse to go to War again ” . At the end of the day , the Klingons are still generally considered good guys , funny people with whom you want to have a laugh and a drink . And Cardassians ? Oh no , they’re the evil lizards nobody wants to deal with . Also : dental hygiene . Just saying …
They still oppressed the Bajorans for like fifty years. However my judgment extends only to the members of the Cardassian government and military who were willingly and knowingly involved in that shit.
But regular old cardassian civilians? Or the soldiers drafted into that crap? They’re victims too. The cardassian government oppressed the shit out of its own people as well.
And even among the military and government there are cardassians who worked against the occupation and later worked for the reform of the government on Cardassia Prime. They’re pretty cool.
Honestly on the Cardassian front p much all of my hatred is laser-focused straight at Gul Dukat so yeah
Oh , it seems you missed the rest of the convo i had with @guljerry , developing my point ( warning : long stuff to be read there ) , but that’s all right :) Yes they did oppress the Bajoran people for several decades , that’s bad , 200% bad , not disagreeing there @imsopopfly :) Well , my judgment would differ , because even among the civilian populations , there’s probably a large percentage of Cardassians which were totally fine with the Occupation and supporting it . I mean , they were exploiting the resources they needed on Bajor , and for the better part of 50 years of Occupation , they had the situation well in hand . On the other hand i wouldn’t blame the entire military either . The Occupation lasted for so long that all the Cardassians we see in DS9 ( except the old ones like Ghemor perhaps ) were born while the Occupation was already a thing . They grew up being taught it was all right , and just like many other species in the Galaxy , grew up being taught they were superior and were in their own brutal way helping the Bajorans . Since DS9 loves parallels with WW2 , think about it , it’s the equivalent of kids born under Nazi rule , they grew up brainwashed . Besides , i don’t think there’s draft on Cardassia , the military seems like such an important part of their society i’d think most Cardassian men join military academies willingly and with great enthusiasm , while Cardassian women tend to be the brains of Cardassian society . As for the oppression , it sounded to me like it was mostly the Obsidian Order’s doing , especially since their collapse brought civil unrest on Cardassia . The Military , like in all country , serves the State , and its legal ruling Head , whether it’s Central Command and the Obsidian Order , or the Detapa Council . The Writers surely made a good job at pinning every possible vice and default you can possibly imagine on Dukat , to a point where it just becomes ridiculous in my opinion . Hnnn , maybe i’m a garbage person but i love Dukat . He’s terrible , but he had his moments though , and in some occasions he wasn’t as bad as people credit him for . But that’s an entirely different debate :)
Oh I love Dukat as a character, he’s probably one of the most well written villains I’ve ever seen, and I think the way they gave him humanizing moments only makes him even more interesting as a villain. I just hate him as a person. He is one of those great great villains that you love to hate and sometimes actually even feel for, until he goes and shows why he’s such a terrible dude again and then you wanna punch him in the face.
I only scrolled by this and I thought it was an entire post about peoples opinions on Canadians
Oh man can you imagine
Canadians are oppressive space lizards who have Occupied their nearest neighbors for several brutal decades ...
Just in general really.
Woah , well , that’s just … too general , i’ll need specifics xD In short and general , i think that Cardassians aren’t half as bad as people say ( in-universe ) and definitely not as evil as the Producers want us to think . I mean , come to think about it , Cardassians have occupied a single planet for 50 years , in a rather brutal fashion but it didn’t started that way , and out of necessity to end starvation on Cardassia . End result : they’re the bad guys of the Alpha Quadrant , an inherently evil and oppressive space nazis . They killed what , “ just ” a couple million Bajorans , over the course of 50 years ? It sounds pretty frakkin bad , sure , but next to them you still have the Klingons : They have been at War with the Federation several times , they pull out of the Khitomer accords every other decade , they don’t invade their neighbors out of necessity , they do it for the kicks , and we know for a fact that they commit mindless massacres wherever they go . Take the same 50 years during which the Occupation took place , how many millions died because of the Klingons you think ? Just because their honour dictated that they needed to fight the nearest person , regardless of whether or not he was even able to defend himself . Because that’s too much detail for the Klingons , as they have proved in DS9 by attacking the Cardassian outposts and colonies , killing thousands of civilians because “ perhaps there’s a Changeling in the Cardassian government but really this is just an excuse to go to War again ” . At the end of the day , the Klingons are still generally considered good guys , funny people with whom you want to have a laugh and a drink . And Cardassians ? Oh no , they’re the evil lizards nobody wants to deal with . Also : dental hygiene . Just saying …
They still oppressed the Bajorans for like fifty years. However my judgment extends only to the members of the Cardassian government and military who were willingly and knowingly involved in that shit.
But regular old cardassian civilians? Or the soldiers drafted into that crap? They’re victims too. The cardassian government oppressed the shit out of its own people as well.
And even among the military and government there are cardassians who worked against the occupation and later worked for the reform of the government on Cardassia Prime. They’re pretty cool.
Honestly on the Cardassian front p much all of my hatred is laser-focused straight at Gul Dukat so yeah
Oh , it seems you missed the rest of the convo i had with @guljerry , developing my point ( warning : long stuff to be read there ) , but that’s all right :) Yes they did oppress the Bajoran people for several decades , that’s bad , 200% bad , not disagreeing there @imsopopfly :) Well , my judgment would differ , because even among the civilian populations , there’s probably a large percentage of Cardassians which were totally fine with the Occupation and supporting it . I mean , they were exploiting the resources they needed on Bajor , and for the better part of 50 years of Occupation , they had the situation well in hand . On the other hand i wouldn’t blame the entire military either . The Occupation lasted for so long that all the Cardassians we see in DS9 ( except the old ones like Ghemor perhaps ) were born while the Occupation was already a thing . They grew up being taught it was all right , and just like many other species in the Galaxy , grew up being taught they were superior and were in their own brutal way helping the Bajorans . Since DS9 loves parallels with WW2 , think about it , it’s the equivalent of kids born under Nazi rule , they grew up brainwashed . Besides , i don’t think there’s draft on Cardassia , the military seems like such an important part of their society i’d think most Cardassian men join military academies willingly and with great enthusiasm , while Cardassian women tend to be the brains of Cardassian society . As for the oppression , it sounded to me like it was mostly the Obsidian Order’s doing , especially since their collapse brought civil unrest on Cardassia . The Military , like in all country , serves the State , and its legal ruling Head , whether it’s Central Command and the Obsidian Order , or the Detapa Council . The Writers surely made a good job at pinning every possible vice and default you can possibly imagine on Dukat , to a point where it just becomes ridiculous in my opinion . Hnnn , maybe i’m a garbage person but i love Dukat . He’s terrible , but he had his moments though , and in some occasions he wasn’t as bad as people credit him for . But that’s an entirely different debate :)
Oh I love Dukat as a character, he’s probably one of the most well written villains I’ve ever seen, and I think the way they gave him humanizing moments only makes him even more interesting as a villain. I just hate him as a person. He is one of those great great villains that you love to hate and sometimes actually even feel for, until he goes and shows why he’s such a terrible dude again and then you wanna punch him in the face.
Well that’s the irony of it all sometimes , because he definitely is one of the best Villains of Star Trek , much more layered than most . Nostalgic fans will prefer Khan , but Khan is quite the basic bitch , he just wants revenge and power , to have to Augments rule wherever they go . Dukat’s goal were hardly ever clear , he was ambitious , yes , but apart from that ... He had to make do with the increasingly unstable situation of Cardassia , i do not blame him for joining the Dominion , it was a logical decision to make . And then yes , there are those humanizing moments that are just killing me , because they’re basically staging grounds for the next complete dick move he’s going to pull . Past mid-Season 6 though , he’s so far gone you just cannot feel for him in any way . Event mid-season 5 onward , he might have still be redeemable , but only through some ultimate sacrifice sort of move . The turning point was “ Apocalypse rising ” , when he blames Kira for letting Ziyal date Garak , the anger and hate in his voice despite all his previous attempts to appear nice to Kira .
Just in general really.
Woah , well , that’s just … too general , i’ll need specifics xD In short and general , i think that Cardassians aren’t half as bad as people say ( in-universe ) and definitely not as evil as the Producers want us to think . I mean , come to think about it , Cardassians have occupied a single planet for 50 years , in a rather brutal fashion but it didn’t started that way , and out of necessity to end starvation on Cardassia . End result : they’re the bad guys of the Alpha Quadrant , an inherently evil and oppressive space nazis . They killed what , “ just ” a couple million Bajorans , over the course of 50 years ? It sounds pretty frakkin bad , sure , but next to them you still have the Klingons : They have been at War with the Federation several times , they pull out of the Khitomer accords every other decade , they don’t invade their neighbors out of necessity , they do it for the kicks , and we know for a fact that they commit mindless massacres wherever they go . Take the same 50 years during which the Occupation took place , how many millions died because of the Klingons you think ? Just because their honour dictated that they needed to fight the nearest person , regardless of whether or not he was even able to defend himself . Because that’s too much detail for the Klingons , as they have proved in DS9 by attacking the Cardassian outposts and colonies , killing thousands of civilians because “ perhaps there’s a Changeling in the Cardassian government but really this is just an excuse to go to War again ” . At the end of the day , the Klingons are still generally considered good guys , funny people with whom you want to have a laugh and a drink . And Cardassians ? Oh no , they’re the evil lizards nobody wants to deal with . Also : dental hygiene . Just saying …
They still oppressed the Bajorans for like fifty years. However my judgment extends only to the members of the Cardassian government and military who were willingly and knowingly involved in that shit.
But regular old cardassian civilians? Or the soldiers drafted into that crap? They’re victims too. The cardassian government oppressed the shit out of its own people as well.
And even among the military and government there are cardassians who worked against the occupation and later worked for the reform of the government on Cardassia Prime. They’re pretty cool.
Honestly on the Cardassian front p much all of my hatred is laser-focused straight at Gul Dukat so yeah
Oh , it seems you missed the rest of the convo i had with @guljerry , developing my point ( warning : long stuff to be read there ) , but that’s all right :) Yes they did oppress the Bajoran people for several decades , that’s bad , 200% bad , not disagreeing there @imsopopfly :) Well , my judgment would differ , because even among the civilian populations , there’s probably a large percentage of Cardassians which were totally fine with the Occupation and supporting it . I mean , they were exploiting the resources they needed on Bajor , and for the better part of 50 years of Occupation , they had the situation well in hand . On the other hand i wouldn’t blame the entire military either . The Occupation lasted for so long that all the Cardassians we see in DS9 ( except the old ones like Ghemor perhaps ) were born while the Occupation was already a thing . They grew up being taught it was all right , and just like many other species in the Galaxy , grew up being taught they were superior and were in their own brutal way helping the Bajorans . Since DS9 loves parallels with WW2 , think about it , it’s the equivalent of kids born under Nazi rule , they grew up brainwashed . Besides , i don’t think there’s draft on Cardassia , the military seems like such an important part of their society i’d think most Cardassian men join military academies willingly and with great enthusiasm , while Cardassian women tend to be the brains of Cardassian society . As for the oppression , it sounded to me like it was mostly the Obsidian Order’s doing , especially since their collapse brought civil unrest on Cardassia . The Military , like in all country , serves the State , and its legal ruling Head , whether it’s Central Command and the Obsidian Order , or the Detapa Council . The Writers surely made a good job at pinning every possible vice and default you can possibly imagine on Dukat , to a point where it just becomes ridiculous in my opinion . Hnnn , maybe i’m a garbage person but i love Dukat . He’s terrible , but he had his moments though , and in some occasions he wasn’t as bad as people credit him for . But that’s an entirely different debate :)
Just in general really.
Woah , well , that’s just … too general , i’ll need specifics xD In short and general , i think that Cardassians aren’t half as bad as people say ( in-universe ) and definitely not as evil as the Producers want us to think . I mean , come to think about it , Cardassians have occupied a single planet for 50 years , in a rather brutal fashion but it didn’t started that way , and out of necessity to end starvation on Cardassia . End result : they’re the bad guys of the Alpha Quadrant , an inherently evil and oppressive space nazis . They killed what , “ just ” a couple million Bajorans , over the course of 50 years ? It sounds pretty frakkin bad , sure , but next to them you still have the Klingons : They have been at War with the Federation several times , they pull out of the Khitomer accords every other decade , they don’t invade their neighbors out of necessity , they do it for the kicks , and we know for a fact that they commit mindless massacres wherever they go . Take the same 50 years during which the Occupation took place , how many millions died because of the Klingons you think ? Just because their honour dictated that they needed to fight the nearest person , regardless of whether or not he was even able to defend himself . Because that’s too much detail for the Klingons , as they have proved in DS9 by attacking the Cardassian outposts and colonies , killing thousands of civilians because “ perhaps there’s a Changeling in the Cardassian government but really this is just an excuse to go to War again ” . At the end of the day , the Klingons are still generally considered good guys , funny people with whom you want to have a laugh and a drink . And Cardassians ? Oh no , they’re the evil lizards nobody wants to deal with . Also : dental hygiene . Just saying …
I don’t know much about Klingons tbh. I’m not sure, in my opinion, that it matters much why the Occupation was started even if it was to save themselves. I don’t really think that makes it ‘right’ or anything at all and they did still kill many Bajorans even if it was over 50 years time span.
But since you compare another species to the Cardassians it brings back something I have often wondered: the Cardassians weren’t the only people who were oppressive, or thought they were superior, but they seem to get singled out the most–and also about genocide, well there were several instances of characters or groups being willing to commit genocide but I still rarely see any of those pointed out. All the bad is lumped onto certain characters (not saying those characters may not be a percentage bad anyway) but it’s sometimes disproportionate.
Going back to your comparison with Klingons…
-Klingons committed genocide kind of? (they wipe out all Tribbles, and yes I know they’re just balls of fluff, but as far as I could tell we were supposed to believe that they had their own homeworld so they’d be their own species and stuff so I think maybe it could be counted. Even if not I still think it’s gross to just kill of every single member of an entire species.)
-Garak was was willing to commit genocide
-Section 31 tried to use Odo as a tool to commit genocide of The Founders
-The Founder(s) ordered Weyoun to kill the Cardassians. All of them. There nearly was a Cardassian genocide.
-Weyoun of course was fine with wiping them all out because he was created to serve The Founders
See you have all these other groups of people or characters too but I never see those things picked apart and pushed as hard as ‘Cardassians are awful’ is.
There are so many other facets in DS9 in many characters and many species and I think it really takes away when people–even Ira himself–try to keep pushing the idea that all Cardassians are monsters or whatever you want to call it. That’s just stupid and it takes away from the complexity of many of the characters.
Garak is no angel himself. He probably did awful things for the OO. He has also in fact said some really shitty things about Bajorans, and the Occupation, but for -some reason- he gets a free pass (I know the reason I’m just not going to go there).
I’m not defending Dukat or what was done during the Occupation but I do agree on not understanding why the Cardassians in particular are singled out as being ‘the bad guys’ when there are a lot of bad guys from all sorts of species and when we have seen Cardassians in various shades of morality, many who might be seen as ‘good’ from a Federation viewpoint, some who may not have been but realized their mistakes and changed, all sorts. We have Tekeny Ghemor, Aamin Maritza, Ziyal, Damar, Natima Lang and her students, probably some I am missing–but I felt like DS9 did try to show us various ‘types’ of Cardassians. Yet there is this really big push in some of fandom to hate -all- Cardassians. They’re all bad.
I mean… if Kira of all people could grow to love a Cardassian man like he was her father then surely there are redeemable Cardassians and Cardassians who are not just monsters and why should they be overlooked? Dukat and Garak were not the only Cardassians we were presented with. I’m honestly shocked at the number of Niners I’ve met irl who, when I say Damar is my favorite, they don’t even know who I’m talking about. He was PIVOTAL to the ending story arch and… you don’t even know who he was? That just… kind of really blows my mind. Then if they do know who I mean it’s usually ‘oh yeah he liked to drink’. Don’t get me started on how aggravated -that- makes me.
Oh, and going back to the Klingons and them killing Cardassians, I will say I’ve always thought that scene with Martok was weird when they were discussing that one Cardassian unit. He kind of scoffs and says *insert name/number of the unit I don’t remember what it was* They’re nothing but old men and walking wounded. Septimus (whatever number) will fall within the (time period). Yeah I forgot a lot of the quote XD But I always thought it really odd that this Cardassian unit was made up of old men and walking wounded but it was still okay to attack them? Wouldn’t there be no honor in attacking elders and people who are already injured/maimed?
With your Klingon example I think there might be an issue of whether or not you are talking about individual Klingons killing individual people because ‘honor’ or whatever vs. oppressing an entire planet - but as I said I don’t know much about the Klingons. If they are starting entire wars over honor and killing tons of people then… that’s bad too.
I am in no way of course saying that invading Bajor and killing millions of Bajorans was okay in anyway , regardless of the reason that pushed the Cardassians to do it . It was wrong , hard agree on that . I’m just stating that the Occupation didn’t start out as a full-fledged military Occupation , at first they came in relative peace , but things escalated and went south fast . Oh , and one “ small “ detail , when the Cardassians invaded Bajor , they didn’t come with the intention of committing a genocide , they didn’t wanted to wipe out the Bajorans . So that’s also something people can strike out of their list next time they compare Cardies not Nazis … Klingons exterminated the Tribble specie , it is , as far as we know it , extinct . Shite and time-travel happened and they came back , but yes , the Klingons basically wiped out an entire species . But that’s just the bottom of things , really . Klingons are inherently violent and aggressive , they live to wage war . They have invaded more planets than we can count , destroyed entire colonies , and each and every time , they had every intention to do so from Day 1 . They basically commit small scale genocides wherever they go . It is stated in DS9 that their policy when they invade a planet is to kill all the Leaders and official representatives straight away to plunge the planet into chaos , and then they just go rampaging until they’ve sacked , burned and killed everyone . Just remember “ Return to Grace ” , they did not just massacre both Bajoran and Cardassian dignitaries , they killed every living soul on the Outpost . And as you mentioned , there’s the case of that Cardassian base Damar was adamant he wanted evacuated before it was attacked by the Klingons , because they would not care that the people stationed here were old men and wounded soldiers . Weyoun let them all die so he did not have to bother with the evacuation , and Martok enjoyed giving the orders to attack , just like he enjoyed leading the Klingon Defense Fleet in Cardassian Space to wreak havoc and death on his way , for “ honour ” . When we’re first introduced to the Gamma Quadrant and the Founders , when Quark deals with the Dosi , trying to sell tulaberry wine . The Dosi guy makes it clear that the Dominion keeps the whole Gamma Quadrant in check with the threat of the Jem’Hadar , and you can assume that they’ve probably committed a few genocides here and there to prove their point . And let’s not forget “ The Quickening ” or “ How the Dominion infected an entire species with Space Plague for generations just to teach them a lesson ” . And when the Founder ordered Weyoun to exterminate the Cardassian people , they did not “ nearly “ committed genocide , they did . Cardassian was bombed back to stone age . Over 800 million Cardassian civilians were killed . That is 53 times more people killed in a matter of HOURS than in 50 YEARS of Occupation !! ( 15 million died during the Occupation ) And yes , there’s the matter of Garak . He’s my favourite character , and i really love him , but he is anything BUT an angel , and people are forgetting that so easily and so fast , it’s no wonder he gets a free pass . I’ve seen people say several times that “ At least Garak knew where to draw the line , Dukat never did ” . AH !! You could not be more wrong that this ! Garak was an Obsidian Order agent , the Obsidian Order is worse than the Tal Shiar , and the Tal Shiar is really bad . By definition , intelligence services do not draw lines , and the Obsidian Order least of all . You may be lead the believe that Garak was exiled because he let a few Bajoran kids go because he was cold ( episode “ The Wire ” ) but remember that everything Garak says in that episode is a potential lie . Because that’s what Garak does : he lies . Always , all the time . He may not be as morally depraved as Dukat , but chances are that our favourite Tailor has tortured and killed a lot more people with his own hands than Dukat ever did . Men , woman , children , elderly people , we will never know . And as Garak said to Julian in “ Our Man Bashir ” , spies have no ego . A good Spy doesn’t have a conscience either . Just think about it . I adore DS9 above all Trek , but that’s really the part where i find the Writers and Producers took the cheap and easy way , they just stick that “ evil “ label on Cardassians as early as TNG , and they spend the better part of DS9 pushing the viewers to side with the Bajorans and hell , even the Maquis . And that’s also why i prefer DS9 over VOY , only DS9 did , every now and then , show us some Cardassians who weren’t bad people . Just your average person doing his his / her job , like Gilora Rejal and the other scientists , or some regretting deeply what happened during the Occupation like Maritza , or fighting the Military to transition to a more democratic government like Ghemor . VOY on the other was all about giving the Maquis side of every story and no one to argue with them , ever , despite the Maquis being basically a terrorist organization willing to jeopardize the Peace Treaty between the Federation and Cardassia just because they didn’t want to move their arses . The relation between Kira and Tekeny Ghemor was just fantastic on so many levels , and showed that there could be Peace between Bajor and Cardassia , as long as they were both willing to be a little more understanding of each others . Damar WAS absolutely pivotal , and he’s such an overlooked , underrated character . I think Damar is the character that better represents the “ perfect / average ” Cardassian . He’s not excessively violent and mean , he’s stern and deeply loyal , both to his people and friends . Like most Cardassians he was probably fine with the Occupation while they had the situation in hand ( can’t blame them ) , but probably didn’t think much about it afterwards . And yes , the drinking … Damar likes to indulge in the small pleasures of life , but it doesn’t take a high IQ to understand that , past mid-season 6 at least , he was trying to drown his self-loathing feelings in Kanar . Cardassians are a proud people , and the Dominion was treating them like second-class citizens , throwing them on the front line instead of the Jem’Hadar . Both Weyoun and the Founder were just bossing him around , treating him and the rest of Cardassia like pawns despite him being the Leader of the Cardassian Union , a position he inherited after killing the daughter of his best friend (?) . He got fed up with the Dominion , and so were many Cardassians , he became the Leader of goddamned Resistance against a regime 10 times more violent and powerful than the Cardassians ever were on their own , and he’s ultimately the reason why the Dominion was defeated . Without Damar , the Dominion would have crushed the Federation , Klingons and Romulans during the Battle of Cardassia . I’m definitely talking about Klingons in general , except a very few individuals like Worf , they , all of them as a species , just genuinely enjoy oppressing entire species or planets , killing and destroying everything in their wake , because “ Honour ” dictates that they should , and the more people they kill , the more glory they earn . Boy this is getting long , i’m terrible at summing things up
Just in general really.
Woah , well , that’s just … too general , i’ll need specifics xD In short and general , i think that Cardassians aren’t half as bad as people say ( in-universe ) and definitely not as evil as the Producers want us to think . I mean , come to think about it , Cardassians have occupied a single planet for 50 years , in a rather brutal fashion but it didn’t started that way , and out of necessity to end starvation on Cardassia . End result : they’re the bad guys of the Alpha Quadrant , an inherently evil and oppressive space nazis . They killed what , “ just ” a couple million Bajorans , over the course of 50 years ? It sounds pretty frakkin bad , sure , but next to them you still have the Klingons : They have been at War with the Federation several times , they pull out of the Khitomer accords every other decade , they don’t invade their neighbors out of necessity , they do it for the kicks , and we know for a fact that they commit mindless massacres wherever they go . Take the same 50 years during which the Occupation took place , how many millions died because of the Klingons you think ? Just because their honour dictated that they needed to fight the nearest person , regardless of whether or not he was even able to defend himself . Because that’s too much detail for the Klingons , as they have proved in DS9 by attacking the Cardassian outposts and colonies , killing thousands of civilians because “ perhaps there’s a Changeling in the Cardassian government but really this is just an excuse to go to War again ” . At the end of the day , the Klingons are still generally considered good guys , funny people with whom you want to have a laugh and a drink . And Cardassians ? Oh no , they’re the evil lizards nobody wants to deal with . Also : dental hygiene . Just saying …
classic abuser logic.
I want to agree with Kira so bad , but i’ll have to ever so slightly disagree with her statement here . “ Most of which Bajor achieved ... ” would be more accurate , some things would have never happened without the brutal “ assistance ” of the Cardassians . I’ll try to stick to the essential here : the D’jarras The Bajoran Caste system , it the most dysfunctional and backwards way of organizing a society , and India is modern-day proof of that . In my humble opinion , forcefully ditching the Caste system during the Occupation is what allowed Bajorans to become open-minded and curious about the rest of the Quadrant . It’s only speculations here , but had Bajor still been using the Caste System when Sisko came to them as the Emissary of the Prophets , he would’ve had a much harder time or no luck at all being accepted as an icon . Abandoning the Caste system meant people from all origins and social statuses could access any position , both the more traditionalist people and the more reformist like Kira and other Resistance fighters , and that was a step forward for the Bajorans towards opening themselves to the rest of the Galaxy after the Occupation . Kira herself openly admits that she does not adhere to the idea of reviving the D’jarras in “ Accession ” ( e17s04 ) , and later reaffirms her position when she gives it a try . Bajor got that close to taking a huge step backwards in that episode . And because DS9 wouldn’t be DS9 without historical parallels , let’s make a good one this time , instead of the usual poor and skewed “ Cardassians are nazis “ , because they are actually not , and i can give you at east half a dozen historical reasons as to why . While the Caste system is still in place in India , it has somewhat slackened over-time and a lot of new laws have been implemented regarding the rights of the lower castes . But those changes didn’t come by themselves , they rarely do in a Caste base society , because it’s not in the interest of the ruling Elites . One of the main “ event ” that led to changes regarding the castes was the arrival of ... you have guessed : the British Colonial Empire . They came , exploited local resources , were often brutal and oppressive ... Hey , but that sounds somewhat familiar doesn’t it ? And it should ! Because if we can draw one ACCURATE historical parallel between our History and the History of Bajor sector , it’s that if the Cardassians are to resemble any major Faction , it’s the British Empire , and not the goddamned Third Reich . I hope i didn’t went astray here with my explanations racing in all directions . But yes , this is basically my point in “ short ” , and why i firmly believe that Dukat is , sometimes , not entirely wrong . And to be frank , i have a feeling people are trying so hard to pin all the wrongdoings of the Occupation on him and use him as THE model example of all the types of wrong people ( abuser , sociopath , ... ) that people aren’t even considering the fact that he could be right sometimes , and that he’s not 200% a complete arsehole , only like ... 99,5 % , give or take some percents depending on the Season and Episode .
8C with odo? it seems appropriately harumph-y
I’ll try to do my best , i need to practice quick sketches :P I’m not promising anything :)
That was a welcome albeit short break from my current work :P
8C with odo? it seems appropriately harumph-y
I’ll try to do my best , i need to practice quick sketches :P I’m not promising anything :)
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Please tag me so I can see your artwork! C:
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To test my chibi style out, I’ll try this. (Just a heads up for those that wonder why the style looks different)
I really don’t have much time on my hands right now , but i might be able to squeeze a quick doodle in my work schedule ... :P If you feel like it , give me a letter , a number , and a DS9 character :-) ( Yeah i don’t feel like drawing anything else at the moment )