So, ya'll want my gut feeling about BlackGryph0n explained?
Back in the 2014-2015 days, I followed some antiSJW brony folks and these three artists made satirical blogs abt the adult CMC mocking tumblr culture and fandom. Not a big fan of those same artists now, but the one who owned the Applebloom blog made a parody comic of that time Gabriel posted pics of dripping syrup and tying up Michelle Creber (who was still a minor at the time), by having Gabe's griffonsona do that to Applebloom while a disapproving Apple family look on. The comic ended with the other Apple's sending Gabe's oc to be eaten by Queen Chrysalis. The comic then linked to and showed the screengrabs of Gabe and Michelle Creber's real life posts that inspired it. It then had a poem parody that went like: "sing a song of sixpence but surely they deny, one big black gryphon backed into a pie, deported by the apple fam for hitting on a tween, wasn't that a dainty dish to set before the queen?"
If ANY of this comic still exists it would be under a wayback machine of "ask apl-pleb-loom" or something like that. The mod of that blog posted besides "Fury Belle" (radfeminist SJW Sweetie Belle) and Ass Brutalewd (Stootalo but a horndog college girl).
I don't so much care for the artist and distanced myself from them and the antisjw types. I don't support or like them but THAT was how I first learned and saw what Black Gryph0n was doing. Back in the mid 2010s. I didn't learn after the fact, I was aware of the accusations for a lone time. When the Hazbin Hotel pilot came out, I didn't know how to feel when I learned who Alastor's va was. To be clear, I don't think anyone at Spindlehorse knew of that situation since most people didn't and knew Gabe more from his old Brony days. I'm not blaming Spindehorse, especially since they recast Gabe anyway. Again, while I never cared for the person I originally heard that info from-
the image of 17-y-old something Michelle with duct tape on her mouth, posted to an audience of impressionable children and fellow gooning bronies, with Gabe smiling, proudly, like it was nothing has ALWAYS stuck with me. I haven't excessively combed through the all the documents and evidence to see if someone else has found that image, but to me, that was enough to swear off Black Gryph0n and his work. I KNOW that that happened. I KNOW that that incident occurred and Gabe did that.
Having found out years later that he married Claire IS uncomfortable. Marrying someone for the adult they are now as an adult even if you did know them briefly as a minor is one thing; I think even the healthiest relationship that's questionable. I'm not convinced, considering the rumors going around and that someone was bold enough to make an entire parody comic about it, that NOTHING inappropriate happened when Claire and Michelle were teenagers. At the very least, what Gabriel posted and thought was 'cute' back then with both girls was beyond inappropriate.
Like MandoPony (remember him?) it was a betrayal within Bronydom that hit hard. There was no shortage of creepy bronies and assholes in the fandom, like our dearest Lily Orchard and ToonKritic, but BlackGryph0n was 'horse famous' and seen as mostly child-friendly. He was trusted enough to hang out with the teenager members of the actual show.
I will not hear that BlackGryph0n isn't a creep and didn't in some way take advantage of anyone. "Grooming"/"not Grooming" who cares about the specifics: he was an adult and should have known better than to ever post something like that.
I don't know the extent of EVERYTHING ILoveKimPossibleALot did/said of Saberspark in relation to any of this. Knowing KP, I can def believe she did a bad job at a call out. That's KP. Barring the video she did explaining why she left Lorch, she's really not good at handling drama. I don't feel inclined to hear her take away on Gabe, Saber, Sai or anyone.
If you support Gabriel Brown and insist on stanning Saberspark because he supports Gabriel Brown, please kindly unfollow me.
If you unironically think "YES Gabe/Saber got metooed' NOW I CAN HATE THEM!" is any kind of sane reaction, ALSO please kindly unfollow me.