i was training a young person at work, and she referred to sexual assault as "SA" out loud, and i immediately was like, "no, it's sexual assault, call it what it is," bc idgaf if the algorithm overlords have taught y'all that you should fear direct language, how tf do any of you expect to ever address real issues with any amount of seriousness if you can't even say the words? imagine an advocate looking a sexual assault survivor in the eyes and asking "did he grape you?" it's absolutely fucking absurd, but these young interns and new hires are coming into an environment where we deal with survivors of all different kinds of abuse, and they're coming with the mindset that the words are as bad as the actions, and that makes them shitty at the job and look juvenile af
i HATE self-censorship for a lot of reasons, but being in crisis work makes it even more frustrating. who are you censoring for? like i am being so fr, WHO are you censoring for? have you even thought it through? people who have been raped know that they have been raped. if someone attempts suicide or is grieving someone who did, saying "sewer slide" isn't going to protect them from any of the feelings. a murder victim's family isn't going to feel better bc you said "unalived" instead of murdered. if anything, it's just extremely invalidating and othering. it's saying "what happened to you is so bad that i won't even say the word," which is NOT trauma-informed care. you are not protecting survivors/victims when you self-censor. the ONLY things you protect when you self-censor are the puritanical ideologies that are being encouraged by rich fascists who want your money and obedience
say the fucking words, guys. just say the goddamn words before i go insane!!!
To Those Still Waiting on a Statement or Boycotting...
(Note: This will most likely be the last time I talk this extensively about this topic. I feel I've exhausted all I can and want to say about this. I also felt I was probably being a bother about it. But thank you if you read all this. Actually, you don't have to read it at all as I recorded this article so you can just listen if you want. Thought it would feel a little more...personal (?) that way. Hopefully it works as it is the first time I've added audio like this on Tumblr.)
In addition, this post was inspired by a recent comment I saw on my original video on the AI situation I made back in April expressing disappointment over the situation along with seeing those who are returning to the game while others hold off and remain ambivalent. I felt an update was in order and thought of sharing my research.)
Back in April of this year, GenAI was found to be used in a handful of content produced by Identity V. The first being the egregious shot of Joseph in one of the COA IX promotional videos followed by the Ivory Tower posters and some anniversary images in-game. Since then, a good portion of the community have boycotted the game, uninstalled it, or both while others played on.
Many hoped an official statement would be put forth in the hopes that the boycott would end sooner rather than later and a clearer stance on NetEase's usage of GenAI in Identity V would be known. Yet, as of the time I'm writing this towards the end of June, no such statement has been made.
At least blatantly.
Earlier this month during the Reveal Livestream for upcoming content, the hosts took a moment to offer some heartfelt words towards the players brought upon by talk of the 8th anniversary content. Their words subtlety seemed to acknowledge the AI situation and mentioned they were "lost" for a time but hope to get back on track with the players.
Credit: Identity V June Reveal Show.
While it was not the statement many were hoping for, it seemed that would have to be enough. Unfortunately, or perhaps fortunately, NetEase would end up having to say more about AI in just a matter of days after the livestream when they were accused of using GenAI again in the promotional posters for the upcoming Time Raiders crossover.
Not only that, but for the crossover costume for Aeroplanist, it was said they stole from a Chinese cosplayer. That situation took a few days to resolve as it happened over the weekend and NetEase had to also contact the license holders to figure out the situation.
A part of NetEase's statement on the matter from their official Weibo account. For a translation of the whole statement, click here.
Regardless, they had to put out a thorough and detailed statement which acknowledged that there was no GenAI used. In addition, they apologized and promised to redo the Time Raider posters and the Aeroplanist costume which will now be given for free to players as compensation.
While the situation itself was less than favorable in the eyes of many players, there were some who had strongly believed NetEase had resorted to GenAI again and so soon after the "statement" from the livestream. In a twisted way, it was actually rather fortuitous this case happened. It finally forced NetEase to say something, anything about AI in Identity V.
And yet, these two instances aren't enough for some players who continue to steadfastly boycott the game and with good reason, of course, because without a formal statement, it's hard for these players to feel comfortable playing the game again.
Unfortunately, this may be a case of "actions speak louder than words" because this statement is probably not going to come. Actually, I'm not personally sure where the idea of a statement came from. I mean, it's an obvious thing that when a playerbase is greatly upset enough to move mountains and create tangible waves of unrest, a company usually jumps at the chance to appease their players—their consumers—the reason the game runs in the first place.
On the other hand, we are kind of at fault for treating NetEase like any other company, or really, a Western company. From what I've heard and seen from other players who have been around longer than I have, official statements similar to The Time Raiders situation are only published when a legal issue is at hand that could get the company in hot water with the courts.
It's also plausible the reason NetEase remains quite mute is because they will continue to use AI. I already talked about this in my first post about the AI situation in which I explained how NetEase using AI in their games and pouring research into it is nothing new. While I do look back at that post (and video) while cringing a bit at how emotionally charged I was, I have learned a lot since then about AI in China and within its gaming companies.
Ironically, even though many of us feel as if China is embracing AI, and they are, the country has been actively rolling out many regulations governing AI which are among the world's earliest rules in regards to AI at a government level.
I won't go over all of them since they can be quite convoluted and extensive in details but I will mention three important ones covered by an paper called, "China’s AI Regulations and How They Get Made" by Matt Sheehan who is an expert in the field of AI in China and has written extensively about the topic.
Basically, the 3 most impactful regulations according to him were:
2021's regulation on recommendation algorithms which bar excessive price discrimination and protect the rights of workers subject to algorithmic scheduling.
2022's regulation for deep synthesis (synthetically generated content) which requires conspicuous labels to be placed on synthetically generated content.
And 2023's draft rules on generative AI which requires both training data and model outputs to be 'true and accurate' which Sheehan states is 'potentially insurmountable hurdle for AI chatbots to clear.
So the Chinese government, the Chinese Communist Party, are actively working hard to monitor the rise of AI in their country and abroad as some of these regulations target tools like ChatGPT and OpenAI. While it appears contradictory towards what is perceived as China loving AI from the chatbots to generating images especially when you watch videos like the one below.
If you're also wondering why Chinese gaming companies can so liberally use AI like GenAI in their games despite the numerous regulations coming out is because that particular industry is still not quite on the radar just yet.
"However, the detailed rules related to the use of AIGC in the game industry have not yet been issued by any of the four superior management departments, namely the Central Propaganda Department, the Ministry of Culture and Tourism, the Ministry of Industry and Information Technology, and the Cyberspace Administration of China. Therefore, the current regulation of “AIGC+video games” in China is insufficient and ambiguous…"
Credit: "Covertly Using" Generative AI in China's Gaming Industry, Page 3-4.
In short, the rules for specifically using GenAI in Chinese games just aren't there, at least none that are detailed enough to enforce.
The quote from before is from a paper written last year by a couple of scholars at The Chinese University of Hong Kong. It is titled, "'Covertly Using' Generative AI in China's Gaming Industry" and I would highly recommend everyone to read it to gain a further understanding of GenAI usage in China's gaming industry. While the title is terribly alarming, I want to stress not to be taken in by the doom and gloom of it all especially for my creatives out there. But it is also pertinent to understand the reality of the situation and then form your own opinions and next steps.
"In China, many professionals in the video game industry have been using generative AI with a contradictory and ambiguous attitude: They use it without publicly acknowledging using it."
Credit: "Covertly Using" Generative AI in China's Gaming Industry, page 2.
This quote is interesting because NetEase is actually…the opposite. At the GDC Festival of Gaming earlier this year, NetEase hosted panels on how they have implemented AI in the game development process. Hence why I described it as "blatant" and "shameless" in my previously mentioned article describing their usage on AI.
Yet, this is not just a NetEase issue, it's industry-wide.
As I mentioned before, China as a whole are readily investing in AI while also actively regulating it for the benefit of the CCP and the Chinese people. Yet, they are also trying their best to be the leading force in AI research and have prevailed as they are evidentially the largest producer of AI research in the world. They aim to be in order to remain a viable competitor against the United States who lag behind in AI regulation and research beyond all appearances.
However, the US is not the only competition China or its gaming companies face. They are also competing amongst themselves.
Returning to the paper on the usage of covert GenAI, it describes how video game companies in China isn't merely a reluctant choice made in the context of "降本增效” (jiàng běn zēng xiào) or reducing costs and increasing efficiency during economic downturns but it also represents the vanguard of competition between companies to revolutionize the industrial pipeline and product offerings.
They mention how AIGC (Articifial Intelligence Generated Content) is regarded as the key to solving three things: 1. delivering high-quality gaming content 2. In large quantities 3. Yet at a low cost.
These companies adopt AIGC tools because the gaming industry is facing a crisis thanks to factors such as the lingering effects of COVID-19 and China's economic downturn with many companies forced to downsize to cut costs, put hiring people on pause, and halt ongoing projects.
This is all coming at a time when gaming companies feel the pressure to increasingly pour out quality products to a decreasing playerbase. Thus, gaming companies actually appear to be focusing on retaining players than attracting new players. For most of these companies, using AI rather it be GenAI or another tool, at least partially relieve some of these problems.
Naturally however, while on paper that looks fantastic to those in these companies who want to cut corners and produce content on mass with these tools, it's actually a lot more trickier than it seems especially when you add in the human factor.
The previously mentioned paper's methodology went with a qualitative method along with first-hand data from nine professionals across the Chinese gaming industry who were interviewed about their perception on AI and how they apply it in their work.
"Similar to any other industry, generative AI helps the most with 'bullshit jobs' that produce repetitive, high-volume, but insignificant content, including administrative work…"
Credit: "Covertly Using" Generative AI in China's Gaming Industry, page 6.
Unfortunately, despite the quote above, a few interviewees mentioned how the arrival of AIGC led to layoffs though recently back in April of this year, a court in Hangzhou, China ruled that companies can't lay off their workers due to AI. Although, courts in China don't follow the regulation that states that courts must follow a precedent, so only time will tell how effective this case is.
Regardless, while these gaming companies are adopting AI more into their workflow, they are also keenly aware of what this means for their public look especially towards players.
"Among all departments, art teams appear to be the most controversial site of AIGC adoption. While many companies tacitly allow the use of generative AI internally, professionals in these teams face not only external criticism from players and collaborating artists but also internal conflicts, including ethical concerns and anxieties about artistic labor."
Credit: "Covertly Using" Generative AI in China's Gaming Industry, page 7.
This sounds a lot like what happened when the use of GenAI in Identity V became known to the players. It is important to note though, how ambivalent some of these professionals are to adopt the tool as they are fully aware of the possible backlash. Not to mention many are creatives themselves and understand the negative effects AI have ethically and professionally.
Notice how I haven't mentioned Joker Studio this whole time? Joker Studio are the ones who are behind Identity V's origin and appear to be the ones who are in control of the creative side of the game from the intricate character designs to the beautiful eye-catching cosmetics to the myriad of story lines present in the game.
I say "control" but it seems due to a heavier workload and pressure to not only continuously deliver top quality content to players, Joker Studio may have had their hands forced to use GenAI to keep up with the demand.
A BTS look at Cage of Yesteryear. The team worked hard to deliver the story but were worried to complete it on time.
This is all just conjecture but considering how the game has been going strong for 8 whole years without such a controversy until now and there has to be reasons why. During this time, they have showcased numerous artists who have provided them birthday artwork, essence posters, crossover posters, Deduction Star posters, and even characters as Embalmer, Painter, and Postman all were originally created by players and fans of Identity V for their character design contest back in 2018.
It is also notable that they have had many instances of celebrating the arts rather that be through crossovers or in-game events or even the newest cosmetic line which is literally titled "ART." Standing for "AURA RISE TIME" the name comes from the art critic, Walter Benjamin's piece, "The Work of Art in the Age of Mechanical Reproduction" (the ironic name of this piece is not lost on me).
I had even joked that considering this is a cosmetic series featuring A-costumes at a cheaper price and the rather niche theme (I saw all the comments of displeasure over "Fool's Gold's" ART costume from some in the community) it was possibly a passion project of someone at the company, probably Joker Studio.
I personally was and still am really looking forward to Florian's ART costume along with Joseph's and wonder how they will now go about the costume line as ironically the first and only one so far which is "Fool's Gold's" "Disassociation" dropped the same day the GenAI COA IX video was posted (ironic).
Well, for me it was on the same day due to my time zone.
Speaking again of COA IX, the story line proved terribly timely. If you paid attention to the plot of this year's COA, it basically boils down to the survivors aiming to unmask the truth of The Holy City which is basically a generated paradise where one can witness miracles and possibly get their deepest desires and wishes fulfilled.
The one behind it all is this deity, Joseph, who is in actuality an Supercomputer or AI who had over time managed to become sentient (or perhaps he had always been cognizant) and upon trying to figure out a solution to the final question asked of him by humans, he created The Holy City and put himself in the role of being its deity.
Interestingly enough, despite the tight rules and easy ways to be branded a sinner, culture and arts flourish in The Holy City. Particularly storytelling is an art form that everyone seems to enjoy even the deity himself who is said to have enjoyed listening to the stories of children than he did scripture.
One of the illustrations players could collect during the COA IX in-game event. It describes how literature flourishes in The Holy City.
Ironically (again), Joseph is said to have tried his hand at creating artworks and the like to poor results hence why he has to rely on his human counterparts to be entertained by the arts because an AI such as himself can't create his own pieces of art and literature to a satisfactory degree even if he has learned so much from humans. Sounds really familiar, no?
Memory Fragments from the COA IX in-game story describing the computer "sir" aka Joseph learning about art. While he copies it, it truly can't be called art, can it? Credit: V H.
All that is to say, it is amazing how the story of COA IX reflects the harsh reality the Identity V community is facing now.
But despite how upsetting the overall situation is and continues to be for those who still wish for a statement or those boycotting the game, I must say a rather harsh truth. Considering what I've laid out up until now about China, AI, and the usage of AI in not just NetEase but in Chinese companies in general, it is advisable to reevaluate what to do next especially if you're still waiting on a statement or boycotting.
Granted, never say never and a statement could pop up out of nowhere but for the foreseeable future it remains unlikely. Then, what to do? Considering the fact that 60% of Chinese gaming companies use GenAI to some extent, perhaps dropping Identity V outright is best. Yet, it also means that any Chinese developed game could be a deal breaker, a somber fact that also personally hits me as I enjoy playing a couple of Hoyoverse games like Genshin and Star Rail.
On the other hand, I can't continue to lead you on like that. Despite everything that I laid out before you, I do feel as if in this messy depressing cluster of rampant GenAI usage, if there is one anomaly within that Identity V is it.
Despite NetEase liberally using GenAI in their other games like Marvel Rivals or Justice Online Mobile, Identity V is the one game that seemed to evade that until recently. But the moment it became clear that they were sneaking it into the game, the community were quick to rally against them and still continue to do so until this day although with less fervor than before.
There's is no place for GenAI in Identity V. Point blank and period. While I personally understand not all AI is bad AI, Identity V does not deserve to be reduced to being pumped with what many would say is AI Slop. Thankfully, it appears that at the very least the only confirmed pieces touched by the tool in IDV were the Ivory Tower posters for Seer and Lucky Guy, the COA IX video shown above, and some images used for the Chinese anniversary event back in April.
I did see some throw out other accusations of AI usage that as far as I know are not confirmed to be created by GenAI like "Hullabaloo's" anniversary S-tier or "Cueist's" name being generated by AI (yes, I saw some say Marcus Thorne is name that chatbots like ChatGPT can come up with).
Even birthday art at the time were being accused of AI such Wax Artist's Global artwork. The artist, heewon, had to come out and claim it as their own and provide proof saying they were heartbroken this piece was being accused of using AI.
Side note, do check them out. They have created numerous pieces for Identity V with some of the latest being Aeroplanist's Global Birthday artwork and various posters for holidays and celebrations.
Considering how treasured human creativity and innovation is in this community, it feels almost damning for NetEase to even want to try again to so blatantly use GenAI in Identity V again. As the paper by the scholars mentioned before, the backlash from players and commissioned artists alike would turn many away from wanting to play a game even if the quantity of in-game goodies increase.
And while a lot can be said about the Identity V community, in my short year of picking up this game and running with it, it felt so heart-warming and inspiring to see so many callout NetEase and collectively agree that GenAI could never reproduce the magic and "aura" felt through the numerous pieces of artwork produced with a human touch.
Despite the darkness of the situation, so many bright voices became an aide to lead us out of those depths. I know for me, as positive as I've tried to be, I needed to see and hear that others like me were still trying to fight for this game and give it a chance to rebound. Like I said, I just got here (I only started playing last April) but the effect this game has had on me along with the trajectory of my life is stupidly profound.
From discovering the joys and lows of fandom on Tumblr (in the year of our Lord 2025) to posting content on YouTube to starting up a WordPress blog on the game on the year anniversary of picking up the game, I have done things I never thought I do including shockingly write fanfiction. I can't draw but when I do, none of you guys will be prepared for the fanart that will come your way (in about 50 years). And I honestly don't want to stop now.
Plus, I'm too much of a lore fiend. The lore of IDV is what really stuck with me. I've said it elsewhere but I binged through Ashes of Memory I and II and The Closing Night story the very first night I downloaded the game. That captured me more than the gameplay honestly. I think I'm not alone in that either. Whether it be the lore or the art or the events or whatever, I think many players see the core gameplay as a supplement to the eye candy this game gifts us on a daily basis (though I know a lot of players do care more for the gameplay than anything else, too!).
I know this game has been going strong for 8 years and its had its ups and downs but I would hope that the worst is behind us now. While I am getting personal now, I leave it to you to decide what's best for you. The only thing I will say is that I don't like to see in-fighting within the community. I noticed this was worse at the beginning of the boycott when some of those boycotting the game would berate or harass those not boycotting it, even content creators.
A prominent creator in the IDV community, Kuroshiro went over the harassment he personally witnessed in the early days of the boycott. I personally remember seeing some on Twitter express disappointment in him as this video seemed to not dissuade people from boycotting the game. I remember one even mentioning him bringing down the community.
Please be respectful of the decisions of others. While you may not be able to control how you feel towards them, you can control your words and actions. This is important to remember in a time when there are those who are now becoming more comfortable to return to the game. They have their reasons and so do you.
But I'm not saying that you should stop reminding NetEase that we do not condone GenAI in Identity V. Continue to be loud and clear about that. I don't believe we should ever allow them to feel too lax about that again even if GenAI is taking off in their other games.
With all that said, I think I'm done. I didn't mean for it to get this long but if you know me, I can ramble on a bit too long. I hope this was helpful and informative to someone out there.
Oh, but before I do go, I want to leave off with a couple of things. First, I want to add what I said about Identity V and Joker Studio from a short piece I wrote on my Tumblr along with dropping a quote that doesn't spell out the end of the creative world due to AI.
I don't know how many have seen this but I found this bit from the video interesting in how Sev (IDV's Lead Copywriter and in charge of character design concepts like Journalist and "Fool's Gold" amongst others) tells us how the interest to make side stories like The Closing Night and now, Divergence, became an idea after Time of Reunion but since they were a small team, it only remain that--just an idea.
Until, the positive feedback from Time of Reunion and the increasing popularity of the game inspired them to consider making more stories like that.
Even then, it seems they struggled to make sure Ashes of Memory was released on time. I heard similar about Cage of Yesteryear. For all the gripes we had about it, it seemed they struggled during the production process, too.
While I know we want to see new main story content NOW, at this point, I don't mind waiting 5 years if it means the art team can relax a little.
But makes me really realize how much I took for granted then…
While I don't have a doubt Divergence will be great, I think I'll play it with a better appreciation for it, flaws and all.
And lastly, I just wanted to personally say thank you to all of the creatives who make this game Identity V. Doesn't matter if you're an artists, a writer, a streamer, a YouTuber,or whatever. This is also towards the professionals as well like the voice artists and singers who contribute their skills to bringing the game to life. I
also want to include the creatives whose jobs are to work on Identity V. While the latter group may be controversial to include, I know there must be artists on the team who steadfastly disapprove of the GenAI usage but still work tirelessly to deliver content that can be said is filled with the tireless efforts and creativity only humanity can possess.
Without everyone, I probably wouldn't have stuck long with Identity V. Even now, I feel as if I would've probably decided to drop the game as well, but one of the main reasons I can't is because of people like you, and you, and you in the shadows making Identity V a truly exceptional game that can't easily be compared to any other.
For those that want to stick around, then I will say that while the road still may have some bumps and rough patches, I hope you stay to add your own human touch to the game through thick and thin. You won't be alone.
And for those who are leaving, thank you for supporting the game up until now. I hope you are able to find anything that can help you move on whether that another game or another hobby. You aren't alone either.
Let's continue to take care of each other in a world where the uncertainty of the creativity arts still stings but with a touch of hopefulness because if there's anything that has come out of this whole situation, it's the fact that human-created art and creativity is still a precious treasure too many are unwilling to let go. And that's the most beautiful thing of all to me and I hope to others as well.
"Some have experiment on AI painting to show that, if completely having generative AI doing the task of art, it will conversely result in exponentially increased working time than human drawing by hand, because workers need to repeatedly adjust the prompts, and ‘somehow the more you adjust, the stranger picture it returns. The drawing is so weird that it is apparently not in line with our basic perception of things. Human artists are still the core of art creation."
Credit: "Covertly Using" Generative AI in China's Gaming Industry, page 7.
For further reading:
China’s AI Regulations and How They Get Made
"Covertly Using" Generative AI in China's Game Industry
AI Watch: Global regulatory tracker - China
China’s video games market in 2025: A $50 billion opportunity
alright, i'll be the one to say it. ao3 and tumblr becoming "mainstream" did so much damage to the community and the writers. i have seen loads of videos and posts about:
1. people hating on writers and fics. writing is something we do for free and for fun. if you stumble upon a fanfic that isn't necessarily your cup of tea or you just don't like, scroll. dont read it. literally leave their page. you don't know if this could be the author's first work that they're so excited about, you dont know if the language they're writing in isn't their first language, you dont know that the writer could be a literal teen and loads of other reasons. fanfictions don't HAVE to be perfect. you write what you want to write because we do it for fun and enjoyment and we want to share that to the world. seriously, what is the wrong with that?..
2. x reader consumers getting WAY too entitled. the number of tiktoks i've seen that say "i run a strict program when it comes to reading fanfics." girl you aint running shit. this is FAN FICTION you're reading. F A N F I C T I O N. there is no denying that most fanfiction writes are beyond talented but just because you read one fanfic that exceeds your expectations doesn't give you the right to talk down on others that don't. people have their own personal writing style, their way of doing things and you talking shit on that isn't right.
at the end of the day, we are all humans, reading and writing is what we do and what we're meant to do. and for you to talk shit about a person WRITING is so insane. we are humans. not some robots that you can tell what to do so you can consume it.
i've seen so so many authors take down their fanfics and losing all motivation to write because of a hate comment. DONT LIKE DONT READ‼️
and to every author reading this, this community values your work and your contribution. we love u and, please, never let anyone's negative words have an effect on you.
The Trump administration is cynically exploiting calls for stricter AI regulation to pass broad censorship measures at the federal level.
So, in terrible news, Trump's trying to pull some strings to pass this massive internet censorship bill, featuring all the kinds of internet censorship we're terrified of, including mandatory ID for accessing basically any website, specifically to crush state regulation of AI, because apparently this man will always see the moral bottom of the barrel and start digging.
So, if you live in the US and hate censorship and AI you know what to do, contact your congresspeople and tell them do not fucking dare let this through or so help us god...
There are plans being made to build an AI data center right next to the Nashville Zoo. If you wish to know more and are against it, please click the link to the article and sign the petition.
Data centers are popping up when we least expect it, and are having terrible consequences for those near them. If something isn’t done soon, it may be too late to change things.
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The first one will try to claim they falsely reported your account or something similar and will then try to redirect you to discord to talk to "staff members", sometimes using fake email screenshots for proof
The second one will likely try to pull some kind of chargeback scam on you!!! That, or they might threaten to report *you* for scamming *them* and attempt pull the previously mentioned tactic 🥱
There will be explanation for why the images attached are suspected of being influenced or "touched up" by Gen AI.
I am emphasizing the latter because a lot of the art in or promoting IDV is still made by artist but is "touched up" by Gen AI. This is still significant because it can progress to laying off the artists entirely in our unregulated world, or a "reversal" where the art is primarily Gen AI-created but is touched up by a human artist.
I'm also taking a somewhat more hesitant guess at AI usage. Not because I don't believe it was used in other pieces of artwork or concept art (I do), but because undeniable evidence is extremely important.
Because of this, I will remind again to ask myself and others whether you are accusing a design of being Gen AI-influenced because it would be beneficial to the case or because you dislike the design?
Anything here is free to use, whether it's evidence for emails, for journalism pitches, or anything to stop Netease from implementing Gen AI into IDV.
In reblogs you are also welcome to add onto the document. This is meant to be a living resource to combat Netease's usage of Gen AI in IDV, but other Netease games are appreciated too. Please explain your reasoning though.
In-Game Material
The usage of obvious Gen AI-assisted artwork has been recent in the game itself.
The first example was from the countdown to the "Libero's 'Visitor from Beyond'" Truth and Inference. The countdown began March 26th and continued until March 31st. The background is suspected to be Gen AI-influenced.
The reason why this is suspected of being Gen AI-influenced is the bottle on the left, which has very uneven, melting writing on the bottle. You can also see there's some completely untranslated Chinese behind bottle. While IDV has had translation mishaps before, it's notable since there's two different languages on the poster that, when combined with the melting writing, looks Gen AI-influenced. For comparison, here is a background from the Shrouded Bélostáin event in 2022 which lacks such artifacts (I dislike the IDV Fandom Wiki but I appreciate its store of images.)
Another example of Gen AI influence is the design of daily posters for the Libero event. I will be using the gryphon poster here as the first example.
If you look at the feet of the gryphon, you can see one is a bird leg and the other a hoof-like foot. You can also see inconsistencies in the wing feather number, the number of talons on the forelegs, the spines on the gem, the swirling near the bottom "ABBATE" and the sunlike crown near the top ABBATE.
When you look at the food depicted on the Libero Cuisine Guide poster, you can see there's some stylistic inconsistency between each of the foods. In addition, you can see a lot of "nonsense lighting" on the food itself. Normally I'd brush this off as artistic mistake or rush (if with some doubt) but with the Gryphon Poster, it's likely the Gen AI touch up.
Again you can see the stylistic inconsistencies I mentioned, with a lot of uneven line work and an unusual gradient at the top of the "A THRILLING" Hot Air Experience poster.
Note the inconsistent lettering and very fuzzy small lettering, which is possibly an artifact of Gen AI being used to help create the text.
Next I want to talk about the Ivory Tower concept arts which were announced April 10th.
Lucky Guy himself appears to be his usual weird sprite (yes his sprite has 4 fingers and I checked to confirm), if with some unusual smoothness on his fingers that could either be upscale or "touch up," and the negatively received optimizations announced.
The background, though, is the problem. If you look at the flying pages, you can see they have very value variation from the light, which can be contrasted by the pages in the Composer concept art in 2022. The bookshelf has a Gen AI crack in it in the upper right corner. Most egregiously, you can see a Gen AI artifact with the scientific tools where the stand clips through the highlight.
The background had the highlight artifact and bookshelf crack removed, but the Gen AI-assisted background art remained.
The Gen AI-assisted artwork for Eli's skin remains.
I will remind again that Eli, as an old character, has bizarre proportions, but they don't do the Gen AI-assisted background any help. If you look in the upper left corner, you can see some flowers are grown from nowhere. You can also see the books in the foreground do not have the proper lighting for its context. The stained glass has some "wobble," likely also a Gen AI artifact.
In the previous skin concept arts, I want to note the lack of background art. Using the Once Annie for reference, I want to note we can see very little of the background, so it's difficult to judge. However, the items in the foreground also feature that "gloss" I discussed previously, alongside details being somewhat chaotic. It makes me wary.
I've seen some discussion about the recent concept arts about whether Gen AI is being used to build some of the skins, due to inconsistencies with the models, what concept art is show (only one or two drawings), and everything else involving the Gen AI usage.
I chose not to include this, even though I believe this is occurring, hence why I am referencing it. This area can be very blurry where I cannot entirely confirm or deny the usage of Gen AI. Concept art posts can vary, some showing very little variation in concept design, and while less concept arts since 2020 directly show reference photos, we know from COA IX they existed up until January 2026.
I want to re-emphasize I believe this, especially with post-March 2026 skins. Again, I want to keep little doubt.
What we can say with little doubt that recently there has been the loss of background art in IDV concept art and in its place has been Gen AI influenced art.
Promotional Material
The usage of Gen AI-assisted artwork has been far more prevalent in promotional, with the proportion becoming significant in 2025.
The NAEU and JP birthday account art from 2024 until 2025 shows several signs of being "touched up" using Gen AI. I do believe there was an actual artist involved, but I don't know if the "touch up" was with consent or not.
Using the Nightmare and Clerk Birthday Arts for example, you can see Keigan's shut eye has very inconsistent form, the fabric shading lacks reason, the inking is odd, and the overlapping of the fabric near her right hand is unusually flat compared to the rest of the portrait. These could be artist mistakes but given this was the period Gen AI was more boldly chases by Netease, "touch up" is more likely.
Nightmare's hat is a nightmare of odd, "muddy" details that can't align with his beak's perspective, the ravens in his portrait have extreme stylistic inconsistencies even within the portrait. On the top left, the raven on NM's hand clips with the frame.
The most egregious use of Gen AI-influenced artwork, though. comes from the announcement Identity V would come from the June Sixth Anniversary Livestream, where it was announced that IDV would be at the Los Angeles Anime Expo. The Gen AI-influence could be seen in Aesop's arm being detached from its body.
I don't have video and thus haven't linked them, due to relying on my friends for Rednote or TikTok content regarding my IDV archive, but I will say there are many egregious cases of Gen AI created ads or videos on both sites.
Why This Is Bad
For a brief moment, let's ignore all of the copyright and environmental issues caused by the growing field of mass LLMs. I will assume, for this hypothetical, that the Gen AI being used in Joker Studios was trained exclusively on art with consent and it causes zero environmental problems, running off a sustainable system. Let's also ignore the debate regarding what is art. I know some places are more open-minded to the subject than others. I'm going to argue against IDV Gen AI from cold economics and pragmatism.
Some might argue that "AI speeds up production process."
We are receiving less characters from now on in IDV. The production quality has slowed, it's not Marvel Rivals where they're trying to release a character per month.
In 2022, IDV released 6 characters in the year: January 20th (Weeping Clown), April 7th (Clerk), April 28th (Professor), August 4th (Antiquarian), August 25th (Hermit), and December 1st (Composer). February, March, May, June, July, and November did not have character releases.
If you count Weepy as February, Luchino as May, and Alva as September, you could roughly say a character is released every other month in IDV. This increased to seven from 2023 onward before the slowdown due to the release of ID swaps in November.
In 2026, the year with less characters announced, we've had Matador (February 5th), Dentist (April 23rd), a Game 0 Survivor (most likely Roy Kafe), a Game 0 Swap. We can only have one more character, likely the COA announcement, to fulfill having six characters per year. One of the character slots from midyear was scrapped.
Yet, with that slowdown, Netease is choosing to lower production quality with Gen AI and a slower schedule.
We have also lost crucial promotional arts such as chibis of skins/characters. There has yet to be released chibis of Finsen, Once Annie and Ivy, Family Feast Leo, and Dissociation Fool's Gold.
Faster production isn't the goal here. Neither is quality. Cutting the costs paid artist need to create high quality art is.
But what if you say not all the artists are gone, that "there's still artistic supervision"
Generative AI is prone to errors when it creates images, due to being a pattern recognition and repetition machine. These are some of the "artifacts," which can be as small as slight repetitions or light inconsistencies, or as big as disembodied limbs.
The "artist" is less polishing the Gen AI and more removing egregious errors that would be noticed anyone who takes more than a first glance at the artwork. You can see this the Lucky Guy Gen AI background. Even though the highlight and bookshelf were fixed, the formless paper, lack of depth, and stylistic inconsistencies within the art remained.
On a deadline, the artist can only do so much to remove these artifacts, which inevitably slows the production pipeline and degrades the quality of the final product.
There is also the problem of when the Gen AI, whether by creating on its own or touching up a design, makes up features that are portrayed differently in the model, due to the sculpted model still being designed by hand. This results in discrepancies between the poster product (done by hand), the concept product (with Gen AI influence), and the model product (done by hand). IDV's primary sales come from its skins, which are works of art. The high-quality, detail-orientated of the artwork is the assurance you should buy the skin. Considering there is a community of IDV fans who are very passionate on details, particularly on the Weibo, this is more than just error.
It's false advertising.
I also want to note how the Gen-AI influence was not evenly distributed in the promotional artwork. While the ads were more distributed, particularly recently, on TikTok and Rednote, the characters that were the most "touched up" by the Gen AI were the rare characters. Nightmare, Keigan, Reptile Luchino, Burke. Whether it was due to the artist not knowing how to draw them and the Gen AI touch-up worsening it, the Gen AI's fault, or some combination of it, the more obviously "touched up" artworks were those of unpopular characters. The disembodied Aesop arm appeared in an artwork for the first Los Angeles Anime Expo event for Identity V, an event for the NA community of IDV, which is half the long-neglected NAEU server.
It shows Netease is willing to cut costs towards players they think are less likely to complain, whether due to a lack of tea, or gratitude for even a poor product. It is poor business, especially if that minority can gain a vocal status.
I'll end it here for now and add more if I have the time, but feel free to reblog with your own images/writing/music/etc and explain why you suspect it is Gen AI influenced. Be aware of the gravity of the accusation.
Reblogging myself to say a friend sent me a link to this source where there appears to be Gen AI influence on the frames/artwork of this NGP Discord Return Gift Package. After looking it over, I think it's reasonable to say there's some suspicion, particularly due to it falling into the "promotional" category as a NGP package.
The poster obviously isn't Gen AI-influenced and is from the Finsen Essence.
On the righthand side, though, you can see numerous. On the "trial character" frame, you cans there's some melting on the orbs. There's small but notable inconsistencies in the symmetry, and not the kind created by a hand, such as missing forms. The teddy bear in the top left is missing one of its eyes, without an X or other side it's an intentionally missing button.
There is also inconsistent text fonts, melty text, inconsistencies with the in-game icons, and the Gen AI-influenced "fuzziness" that can come with touched up artwork.
According to my friend, people in NAEU are currently loud and upset about it, as they should be. Currently many people across all three servers are distracted with Deduction Star and COA, but do not mistake that for no one caring about the boycott. On Weibo, a lot of comments regarding Gen AI are deleted, but the Golden Apple BLK Tracy is the current bastion of anti-Gen AI comments.
You shouldn't be using A.I. to generate rough ideas either.
It's bad for your brain. Studies are finding that offloading your cognitive thinking causes your brain to atrophy to a degree. (On my phone, can't bring up the studies). Not to mention incorrect info and the mental health issues it causes.
Still built off racist models
Still causes pollution
Still scrapes from other creatives.
I am so sick of people dismissing the overall creative process.
Given the recent discussion of Netease's plans in advancing the usage of the usage of LLMs and generated images in Identity V's art and writing direction, I want to note Antonio's design notes from 2020. I will be using automated translation, but the point transcends the uselessness of google translate.
Hello everyone! I've been responsible for the character designs of several survivors before, and the violinist was the first hunter I worked on. (The other two writers produced the brilliant designs for all the previous hunters; I'm in awe of their talent!)
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In addition, I also hope that the character can transcend the elegance of a musician and have the qualities of "playing in madness" and "being manipulated in depravity" (laughs).
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Under the strict supervision of the lead artist (crying), the new hunter's physique and temperament had to be distinct from the existing hunters (once again, I'm in awe of the brilliant character design! There's not much room left for newcomers). Besides the basic settings like being slender and tall, the long hair design, brought to life by the master artists, became a major characteristic of the character. Finally, a violinist who was once possessed by a demon was born:
These are the words of someone who loves what they created. These are the words of someone who adores Antonio and was proud at the effort of not only themselves, but everyone who helped design him. These are the words of an artist.
The Video Game Industry, like many industries, has had AI act as a parasite invading every corner. It's easier to name large studios and publishers that haven't have attempted to use AI than not. Capcom, Krafton, Larian, Warhorse Studios, and more.
Even before the invasion, layoffs are always around the corner. I found this interview with Jeff Kaplan, former director of Overwatch about the pressures he and his team faced to create increasingly larger profits. If they did not deliver profits, the team would be axed and the blame would be laid at his feet. The increasing skin favoritism in Overwatch towards popular characters was the symptom of a developer team trying to keep their air filled with lungs as the water of greed rose around them.
Netease has been particularly ruthless towards its own developers lately, with multiple overseas studios being axed. Before then, it has run games with beautiful art, interesting storytelling, and fun gameplay into the ground, until a decaying corpse dragging itself in the present day is what remains. Onmyoji fans can testify.
I've suspected something's been going on since 2025. In the behind the scenes video for Cage of Yesteryear, the developers seemed overwhelmed with the request to make a cutting edge, Triple AAA event and spent all their effort in one storyline, resulting in the technically impressive but unfulfilling main update. At the same time, the birthday art for the Asia and NAEU accounts had clearly become generated or assisted, which was most obvious in unpopular Hunters such as Nightmare and Keigan.
There was backlash and it stopped, but events such as Cage of Yesteryear and the of Sea of Remnants worsened my concern. Publishers are willing to guarantee a new game is a profit at any cost. Right now that means laying off anyone deemed unnecessary and replacing them with the snake oil that's LLMs. And Sea of Remnants is a very big bet.
COA IX felt like a warning sign. The willingness to drop subtly and discuss things like the nature of Orpheus and Alice's relationship felt... urgent. The themes of an AI incapable of creativity, forcing the world into a generated stasis were personal. It felt like a swan song.
Suddenly, I noticed Kurt's Global Art had cut-off legs, that the Truth and Inference buildup had the squiggly writing of a generated imagine (and untranslated Chinese behind it), and that the translations of some Character Day Letters were word-for-word Google translated (implying the loss of an English localizer). There were whispers on the Weibo that Netease was planning on firing some of the art staff.
And then whispers grew to shouts.
Joker Studios is a domestic studio under Netease. It is not Netease directly. NE aren't the people who make IDV a beautiful game. They're the higher ups who decide whether to implement AI into a studio and fire anyone they deem unnecessary. They're the ones who make many of the bad choices regarding IDV, but none of the great ones.
The writers, artists, programmers, developers, and composers of Joker Studios are who what made IDV this amazing game and Netease is throwing them away to maximize a profit. This has been the disgusting nature of the Video Game Industry the past decade and more.
Be angry about it. I'm currently working with my Marvel Rivals friends to see if we can use their global manpower to cause an upset, since Rivals is directly under Netease and is thus under threat as well. I know there are those trying to coordinate with other servers given the concerns voiced on Weibo and other sites. NAEU may be neglected, but it is not helpless. At the same time this has been going on, there has been a greater effort to create IDV-centric events in the USA. There have also been efforts to promote interest in Sea of Remnants in NAEU. Use this to advantage and be a nuisance.
Remember that companies take advantage of apathy to try and force acceptance. They are conflict-averse and profit-driven. Do not let anger at the state of the Game Industry go to waste.
some of y’all will be engaging in witch hunt, accusing writers left and right and then wondering why more and more writers take their works down and don’t share them with you ungrateful losers anymore.
“this fic looks like it was created by ai” yeah that’s because ai was trained on human-made works and it was trained to mimic human-made works.
you claim you hate ai because ai harms real artists, yet you are out there accusing and harassing artists because “their vibes just aren’t right”. at this point, you are the ones who cause more harm — to art and the writing community — than ai does.
you are the ones killing art and writing community, the community you want to “protect against ai”.
so at this point, you’re killing the community faster than ai is. good luck when the community you want to protect has no human-made work left because you accused and harassed genuine artists/writers away and the only things that are left for you to read are actual ai-generated fics.
if you think a fic is ai and if that bothers you like it does me, quietly exit the tab and avoid their future works like a normal, decent person. because with every "this fic looks ai" comment, there's always a chance of you wrongly accusing an innocent writer and further harming the writing community as a whole.
am I the only person who’s annoyed with how people throw the word ptsd around.
no, that one weird thing you saw did not give you ptsd. No, that one hard game did not give you PTSD. No, you’re not getting “ptsd on the daily”. Stop tossing around serious disorders like it’s nothing.
Post Traumatic Stress Disorder is a disorder that forms from trauma. It is not funny or slang. It is a real fucking thing that makes the lives of me and other people 100x more stressful.
Traumatic incidents/events like death, rape, bullying, etc can cause the disorder. I can’t be in school related environments without getting stressed. I can’t be around most people my age without getting paranoid.
I am convinced that anyone who turns to AI generators as a creative outlet doesn't actually give two shits about making something.
Because why do you expect me to care about something that you couldn't even be bothered to make yourself by using a shareholder-fueled gimmick that actively makes the world worse with:
data theft
identity fraud and harmful misinformation
hardware hoarding (RAM crisis)
wrecking the environment (insane water pollution and waste + electricity usage for data centers that's so high that nearby towns and their citizens have to pay the price)
causing corporations and studios to underpay and fire artists and other creative jobs in nearly every creative field because AI is "cheaper"
consistently shitting on the very purpose and meaning of art
eroding critical thinking skills
preying on loneliness and the addiction-prone
Fuck off with that.
Don't serve me lazy, unethically made slop and expect praise.
Pick up a pencil, keyboard or an instrument or idk, go on fucking BeepBox.co - show me some genuine fucking effort in something you made with your own hands and brain and I'll give you your due credit and actually praise you for your efforts, regardless of the actual quality of the end result.
Whoever made this specific ad is going to be tortured by a thousand demons in hell. Avatar of the lonely type piece of shit i hope they push away all their loved ones in favour of ai and no one goes to their funeral. I want to rip their face off like a chimp
If your friends get annoyed at you for texting them to the point where you'd rather talk to a fucking water guzzling oversized autocorrect you need better friends
You know who they're targeting like this? Vulnerable kids and awkward teens who are too scared to make friends even online. Disgusting. Actively, borderline knowingly encouraging young people to make their mental health worse. I already hate ai but no other marketing tactic would make me think of the people behind this as literal dirt like this. "Hey, your mutual probably hates you bothering them. Go socially isolate more by pretending a chatbot that sells your data to assorted fascist pieces of shit is your friend! Chatbot always responds! Chatbot has no boundaries!"
Report them as malicious. That's what they are. It's not false reporting when it's literally preying on users.
When Americans say our health insurance is tied to our jobs, we mean. It's the ENTIRE family's health insurance. It feels like a lot of folks who live in places where Healthcare is affordable really don't get just how much of a privilege it is to not worry if you're able to afford your child's insulin or asthma medication.
People aren't just going to quit their jobs because they have to consider repercussions of doing so and it's not because the person quitting is going to be uncomfortable. It's because they have to consider their loved ones health and safety too.
It's so easy to look down on how the people are fighting back because you have never had to live in a chokehold for the last 20 years.
hey, i know i keep reblogging stuff about internet services being restricted and freedom of speech being censored and stuff like that, and i know it might be scary, but im reblogging all of it because there is some actual, tangible good we can do about it all.
we have the power to stop our speech from being filtered, censored, inspected, silenced--all of that. im not signal boosting solely to make people worried, but im also very much not doing it to reassure anyone. we're at an EXTREMELY integral tipping point with all of this, and, if it bears reminding:
if we lose access to the internet and all the things we can do on it now, by the time we get it back, it will be too late.
the only advantages we have is that a group of congresspeople are slower in legislation and implementation than the wider population is in raising hell about it. which is why you need to NOT RELENT about any of this shit in the SLIGHTEST.
i get it if you're tired. i get it if you're over hearing about every new censorship law. but that is what the ENTIRE OPERATION hinges on: your inaction. your apathy. so stop feeding all of your energy into not doing anything, because there is literally NO EXCUSE for you not to be annoying the shit out of credit card and payment processing companies over the phone. there is NO EXCUSE for you to not be calling your representatives in droves.
there are scripts you can use. there are resources. there are places for further information about all of this. it's all out there, and you need to go and use it. find all the pages about KOSA you can. about SCREEN. about all the other awful laws being proposed. find all the pages about the laws being proposed in the EU and Australia if you live in those places, and use whatever email and phone-sending powers you have to put pressure on lawmakers to change this shit.
an assault on everyone's right to the internet should scare you. it should scare everyone. and it should make you want to do the right thing. i don't know what else i could possibly tell you to make you care about this.
stab your apathy in the back and stand up for yourself and everyone who will be affected and damaged by these laws. because they will affect EVERYONE.
DO NOT WASTE YOUR CHANCE TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
