in regard to people being unrealistic about numbers, it also just annoys me as a fat person when I see people who are so clearly not fat using degrading and fatphobic language to describe themself. I'm sorry but calling yourself a gluttonous huge piggy who's gotten soooo fat when I can still see your collar bones is crazy. I'm not trying to body shame anyone, everyone starts somewhere and people can find whatever they want hot, but when someone who's still skinny is using that kind of language it makes me think that they don't see actually fat people as people, tbh. I also recognize that people hold weight differently, don't get me wrong. I'm 220 but because I'm 4'10" I would consider myself firmly in fat territory, but on a 6'6" person that wouldn't even be chubby. But If you think your 160 pounds with a little tummy pooch is a big fatty what the hell do you think of a 200 pound person? A 300 pound person? More? I don't know, there's not some magic number where it stops being weird for you to use blatantly fatphobic language, but I think a good threshold is "Do people give you weird looks for eating in public even if you're eating a normal amount?" Or "Has a doctor ever told you that your health condition that has nothing to do with your weight is because of your weight/denied you treatment because of your weight?".
All incredibly salient points.
I think something really important that you’re touching on here is lived experience vs fantasy. There’s nothing wrong with either one, but when your experience in gaining is almost entirely fantasy, it’s kinda weird for you to claim lived experience.
Let’s use our anon friend as an example. They state they are 4’10” and 220lbs (love these numbers btw hit me up). They say they believe they’re firmly in “fat” territory. They’ve mentioned certain lived experiences that I’m going to assume they’ve gone through.
But someone who is 220 and 6’6”… won’t look like them. The taller person can go through their life without scrutiny, while then indulging in fat talk when they’re interested in doing so. This skinnier, taller person enjoys the same privileges of a skinny feeder.
So, when a skinny person says something like “I’m a fat pig. I’m worthless for anything besides eating”… it feels disingenuous. It feels like they’re cosplaying fatness, which they’ll drop once they cum. But people who are really fat keep living the consequences.
That’s kinda why it bugs me when someone shows a “before and after” gain pic that might as well have been taken on the same day. The first pic is them standing in public, full body shot, clothed, skinny. The second pic is them sitting, only from the waist to the neck, tummy obviously pushed out. They’ve mayyybe gained a few pounds, but it really looks like they maybe bloated or it’s just the angles and position making a difference. They inevitably say shit like “uh oh… too late to turn back now” or “I’m gonna eat myself to death at this rate” or “I can barely reach to touch myself 🥵” bro what?
They get the attention, get off, maybe get some money (a lot of these folks talk about needing to get fed), and then go back to their lives, straight-sized wardrobes, and lack of public scrutiny for weight. They’re claiming the lived experience and (in many cases) challenges of being fat while not living those experiences at all. It’s kinda like stolen valor in that way.
And I don’t want this to come off as me saying that skinny people can’t want to gain. That’s obviously not what I’m saying. Skinny people can even talk about *wanting* to be incredibly fat. But it’s kind of like padding in that it’s not… real.
So please, humanize fat people. Don’t let fatness become exclusively a kink thing. People are people first.
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