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wanted to design a group of siblings that couldn't look less like each other
just heard the news. tawnypelt girl im so sorry
does anyone else spend like, an inordinate amount of time thinking about sandstorm's parents.
like obviously no one in into the wild was created with a family tree in mind, but it's funny how her and nightcloud are like, the only two quite prominent characters to never have their family mentioned
general fandom belief was that her parents were brindleface and redtail (and i think that was treated as canon i seem to remember it being on the wiki??) but when redtail's debt released it didn't bring that up at all. probably because it released the same day as the first book in the broken code and it would be a very bad idea to highlight that ashfur and sandstorm are half siblings riiiight before the imposter arc.
and there's like, no one who can feasibly be her mom?? dustpelt and ravenpaw being robinwing's kits is already a huge stretch (and one i ignore) but it's even worse for sandstorm. like, of all the potential mothers in thunderclan:
-bluestar: it's very obviously not bluestar for infinite reasons.
-mousefur: even though she's retconned into being a lot older than she appears in into the wild, she's described as being young, too young to have a kid sandpaw's age. also it would suck to have one of the few female characters who never takes a mate or has children be retconned into being a mom the whole time
-willowpelt: absolutely not. you make her sorreltail and graystripe's half sister. decimates the gene pool.
-frostfur: even worse than willowpelt. the most terrible decision ever made in this series was making frostfur and brindleface littermates, and then making brightheart, brackenfur, and thornclaw siblings
-spottedleaf: lol
-goldenflower: same problem as brindleface. now brambleclaw is squirrelstar's uncle
-speckletail: makes her half siblings with lionheart and goldenflower. yucky!
-one-eye: this, through the power of retcons, now makes her COUSINS with lionheart and goldenflower! also one-eye is described as the oldest cat in thunderclan in book 1, despite bluestar's prophecy making that dappletail, halftail, or smallear.
thus we get my only two options, also elders, really:
-dappletail: we know she had kits that died young. we're told the father is runningwind, even though a) she and stormtail are heavily implied to be together, despite not having kittens and b) runningwind is the son of her foster sister. that's how much older she is. gene-wise, she's alright. her parents don't have any relations and neither of her brothers have kits (making tawnyspots and thrushpelt littermates was an awful move, though). if runningwind is sandpaw's dad, she's still related to brambleclaw and all of frost/lion's kits. i think making her stormtail and dappletail's kit is a cool story idea. it regrettably makes her related to whitestorm (and thus sorreltail's kits, and ferncloud's too if you subscribe to that retcon, which i don't), but i think it would be cool for her to be half-siblings with bluestar. if stormtail was anything like he was with his first litter, she wouldn't even know.
-rosetail: it was always kinda sad that she was so obsessed with romance and mates and never had one of her own! it doesn't matter who the father is (it would be better for it to be a loner probably), and yes, THIS STILL MEANS SANDPAW IS RELATED TO WHITESTORM, but we're running out of options, mate. the first series mentions that bluestar frequently visits the nursery (and that she stops after tigerstar's betrayal), so i think it would be sweet for her to take a special interest in rosetail's kits.
in conclusion, sandpaw simply manifested in camp one day, and no one could get her to leave
you understand the vision
does anyone else spend like, an inordinate amount of time thinking about sandstorm's parents.
like obviously no one in into the wild was created with a family tree in mind, but it's funny how her and nightcloud are like, the only two quite prominent characters to never have their family mentioned
general fandom belief was that her parents were brindleface and redtail (and i think that was treated as canon i seem to remember it being on the wiki??) but when redtail's debt released it didn't bring that up at all. probably because it released the same day as the first book in the broken code and it would be a very bad idea to highlight that ashfur and sandstorm are half siblings riiiight before the imposter arc.
and there's like, no one who can feasibly be her mom?? dustpelt and ravenpaw being robinwing's kits is already a huge stretch (and one i ignore) but it's even worse for sandstorm. like, of all the potential mothers in thunderclan:
-bluestar: it's very obviously not bluestar for infinite reasons.
-mousefur: even though she's retconned into being a lot older than she appears in into the wild, she's described as being young, too young to have a kid sandpaw's age. also it would suck to have one of the few female characters who never takes a mate or has children be retconned into being a mom the whole time
-willowpelt: absolutely not. you make her sorreltail and graystripe's half sister. decimates the gene pool.
-frostfur: even worse than willowpelt. the most terrible decision ever made in this series was making frostfur and brindleface littermates, and then making brightheart, brackenfur, and thornclaw siblings
-spottedleaf: lol
-goldenflower: same problem as brindleface. now brambleclaw is squirrelstar's uncle
-speckletail: makes her half siblings with lionheart and goldenflower. yucky!
-one-eye: this, through the power of retcons, now makes her COUSINS with lionheart and goldenflower! also one-eye is described as the oldest cat in thunderclan in book 1, despite bluestar's prophecy making that dappletail, halftail, or smallear.
thus we get my only two options, also elders, really:
-dappletail: we know she had kits that died young. we're told the father is runningwind, even though a) she and stormtail are heavily implied to be together, despite not having kittens and b) runningwind is the son of her foster sister. that's how much older she is. gene-wise, she's alright. her parents don't have any relations and neither of her brothers have kits (making tawnyspots and thrushpelt littermates was an awful move, though). if runningwind is sandpaw's dad, she's still related to brambleclaw and all of frost/lion's kits. i think making her stormtail and dappletail's kit is a cool story idea. it regrettably makes her related to whitestorm (and thus sorreltail's kits, and ferncloud's too if you subscribe to that retcon, which i don't), but i think it would be cool for her to be half-siblings with bluestar. if stormtail was anything like he was with his first litter, she wouldn't even know.
-rosetail: it was always kinda sad that she was so obsessed with romance and mates and never had one of her own! it doesn't matter who the father is (it would be better for it to be a loner probably), and yes, THIS STILL MEANS SANDPAW IS RELATED TO WHITESTORM, but we're running out of options, mate. the first series mentions that bluestar frequently visits the nursery (and that she stops after tigerstar's betrayal), so i think it would be sweet for her to take a special interest in rosetail's kits.
in conclusion, sandpaw simply manifested in camp one day, and no one could get her to leave
so do you guys think moonpaw will be a grey cat or do we have a chance
y'all are letting your clan get taken over by a twink??? embarrassing
important grey cats