I’m re-reading the Adventures of Will Darling Series by KJ Charles and I should have been highlighting all my favorite bits, but I’m starting now because I love these two so much.
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I’m re-reading the Adventures of Will Darling Series by KJ Charles and I should have been highlighting all my favorite bits, but I’m starting now because I love these two so much.
Excerpt from the book Subtle Blood reads:
Some Jecily art. I have a big time crush on Joan’s VA
Posting the first (and only) two panels of a webcomic I wanted to make of The Two Princes. This is from Season 2. I’m abandoning this project - turns out drawing is hard and not my passion, but I like how these turned out. It’s been forever since I even looked at these and I just wanted to put them SOMEWHERE before clearing space in my computer.
Re-reading House in the Cerulean Sea and collecting tidbits of foreshadowing for the Zoe reveal at the end of Somewhere Beyond the Sea…
Okay, I finished reading Somewhere Beyond The Sea (the sequel to House In The Cerulean Sea) and I liked it, but I have some thoughts about Miss Marblemaw :
- Why did she have a strange reaction when Arthur showed her his engagement ring? Was it because she saw his humanity? Something else?
- why can’t she feel fear? Is she magical? I really thought this was going to lead to some sort of plot line around fear in general. With David starting this discussion of fear and its benefits, I thought this would lead to some sort of character breakthrough with her.
- I don’t want her to have a redemption arc (she abused a child) but I did want to see something break between her and Rowling Rowder who was obviously treating her badly.
- just something about how she was so hot/cold was strange and I want to know what was up with her. Like they locked her in the guest house for an hour or more, and then they let her out and she’s mad for a sec but then like “yes on with the inspection”
Okay, I was seeing some discourse on whether House In The Cerulean Sea / Somewhere Beyond The Sea is set in the UK-ish or the USA-ish and I’ve been thinking about it and I’m weighing in!
I think it’s set in the UK-ish and here’s why:
(These are mostly examples from SBTS because I just finished that one)
- they take the train to the seaside. The train.
- The children make Linus breakfast for his birt that includes beans and mushrooms.
- Linus mentioned loosing a “stone”
- there were mentions of Prime Ministers
- there were mentions of kings of the past.
This concludes my list of evidence coming from a person who’s from the USA and is only noticing the bits that made me go “huh, sounds British”. I wonder if there are bits in there that would make a person from the UK go “huh, sounds American”
are the ttp likers still out there???? I recently fell in love with it again and I've been drawing non-stop. many sketches and stuff,,,,,
Just finished reading (listening to) The Bloodright Trilogy by Emily @skrutskie and it was SO FUN and I’m miffed!
Yes!
Absolutely miffed!
That there isn’t more chatter about it here.
It’s one of those sci-fi/fantasy universes where queerness is a totally normal accepted thing.
The best-written trans man I’ve ever read. The fact that he’s trans doesn’t even come up because there are no outright sexy scenes (NUMEROUS innuendos and implied sexyness? Oh. Hell yah). I’m only sure he was from little snippets and my own experience being one.
It’s got roommates to lovers (omg they were ROOMMATES)
Super exciting action scenes.
Secret, covert plans within plans inside a plan sandwich.
Some really cute “we know we both like eachother but we shouldn’t be together, and now we have to pretend to be together but we aren’t, and now we have to pretend we’re NOT together but we are” shit without too much angst.
I love how the author wrote the characters. Everyone’s motives and thoughts and actions make complete sense given a character’s personality and history, and it’s an incredibly colorful cast.
There are some really excellent character arcs.
Really good fun sci-fi action adventure shit without getting too into hard sci-fi territory.
Politicking and plotting and strategizing.
A bit of graphic violence. Not gonna lie. Just a smidge.
Uhhhgggg someone please read these and come yell with me. The audio books were really good too. Well, the first was hands down one of the best audio books I’ve ever heard. The second was not as good. The third was good and had 4 different narrators. You can listen to them for free on Libby if you have a library card.
KCS has blessed us today!
Darcy is canon.
Gods I love them.
ty for the boost on my tags vent <33 i still do feel like it’s uncomfortable much older adults write rupert & amir smut but i’m too scared to talk abt it on tumblr bc of what happened in the discord ): i rlly like making ttp content and i don’t wanna be exiled from the community or anything bc one person wants to get off on teenagers lol
you’re welcome! I love making ttp content and ttp memes too, and I have been silent on my discomfort with some aspects of the discord server/fandom overall for similar reasons. The Two Princes podcast is far from perfect, but one of the main reasons I fell in love with it was because of the main theme on how queer love is intrinsically good and powerful. I’ve made many a post discussing the nuances in the writing for both rumir and jecily and how many of the themes for both mirror the important foundational values every healthy relationship requires. I love the idea that these two kids can throw away the propaganda they’ve been fed and expectations on their shoulders and choose love. I was also incredibly impressed with the fact that such a blatantly queer podcast was greenlit with the target audience being children. If there had been something like this when I was in middle school, I would feel a lot more secure in my identity today. But I digress.
The argument has been had on tumblr a thousand times over on the intersection between adult content and children’s media, and I really don’t care to get into it again. But, as a minor, there have been some works in the fandom that have made me uncomfortable. It’s not that adult content was made for certain characters, it was the framing of such content and the syntax associated was very reminiscent of fetishized mlm content. In addition, there are certain circles of the fandom that are very adult-dominated, and, because of that, I have kept my distance from due to the language used in discussing relationships in the show. Of course, this is the Internet, and I have no authority to police the content others make. Yet, it has made me uncomfortable.
Because the fan base for this podcast is so small, and the sizes of such adult-dominated spaces are so large, I’ve been afraid to voice my concerns regarding the blatant sexualition and feminization of certain characters for adult pleasure. But, if this fandom were to ever gain a bigger following and include more minors, it’s a concern that needs addressing now. I have no urge to engage in tumblr drama with anyone about what I’ve discussed. But to pretend that it doesn’t exist will only serve to exclude future fans, queer or not.
In short, I’m glad you raised the concerns in your vent tag, because it’s made me feel less alone in having this issues with the fandom. I’m glad someone agrees that there is content that needs to be addressed.
OH shut the fuck up and your savior complex …. Wow, just by reading this, I can tell you’re that type of person who tries to make things sound worse than they are just to get people on your side. Sorry to break it to you but it’s not working this time, Mainly because everyone can see right through your BullShit First of all, you’re not going to call a server, the majority being teens pedophiles. Then claim That the adult server only talks about Explicit subjects… the reason there is an 18+ server is that the owner does not allow cursing and thing that might be harmful to people under the age of 18+… And also the server is NOT only about the podcast, but People also come on there to talk about their problems, stuff that they are currently going through. How is someone who is in their teens supposed to relate to somebody who is probably in their twenties? That’s what the adult servers are for to talk about adult things… Also, stuff minors do not need to know about… I’m just going to get this out there, This server is probably one of the nicest and welcoming communities I’ve ever been in! Everyone here is sharing their talents and interests! And that is the beauty of it all…Also Tam makes sure that everyone is safe and they are strict about everything! They have told me off a few times when I broke a rule… they take everything very Serious because they want everyone to be safe… And things you said about them, the false things that you said about them…Starting a shitnado because people won’t take your side of the pie!? It’s fucking pathetic and you should be held accountable for the hurt you have put on the community and people…Now that is out of the way.. let me address something you should have probably kept yourself. it’s okay to have personal feelings about it but sometimes you need to get off your high horse and remember !!!NOT EVERYTHING GOES YOUR WAY!!! You get off your phone and look at yourself in the mirror and remind yourself what you are arguing about. You’re mad about people writing fanfiction about adult characters… at first, I was a little sympathetic with you. I will admit I was not a fan nor did I like the idea of Smut Fanfiction! Even some of the fanfiction just being downright weird and gross. But that was just my personal feelings because I see these characters as a wholesome loving Couple. Then I Remember Some people are just going to be that way rather you like it or not… you can do what I did simply just did ignore it… because at the end of the day these characters are of age Also, Hate to break It to you but 18y olds have sex..they have sex, they fuck… Rather you like it or not…that is just the truth. You’re getting mad because of people who write about that? You keep bringing up that They just turned 18. And that They are still teenagers in their mind and heart… let me tell you so are people in their 20’s…This isn’t some poorly-written porno where the main character just turned 18 and oh wow! They fuckk It’s not even like that, Also you do realize that a few months did go by in the podcast… Most of the time people are just writing about what life was like after they got married. I have not seen one fanfiction where they are still described as 17-year-olds or that they just turned 18… Since you want to get all technical I’ll get all technical with you. Do you know how long it takes to build a castle? not to mention a few weeks went by when they were actually supposed to get married in season 2…and the aftermath and cleanup they had to go through… Then Amir’s memory got erased and another few weeks went by… What I’m saying is… IT was has been a long time since their birthday… so no they are not just 17 going on 18 fucking… they were also treated like adults, especially Amir… I need to get another thing off my chest. you’re mad about people making jokes and writing about some explicit themes… I guess you also have a bone to pick with the creator because he has hinted at the fact that Amir and Rupert are going to have sex after the wedding, And has even made sex jokes here and there about Amir and Rupert…So it is not your place to say what’s right or wrong about the podcast! The creator has already stated that he knows of these types of things that go on in the fandom… But explicit content is not the only thing. This is just normal stuff couples do in relationships… They do married couple things like have sex… The whole MLM and stories thing is another post for another day… And I already know you’re probably not going to read through all of this… so I am cutting it short… PS I also think that it was immature to bring it to a different platform when they already tried to talk to you about this and spread false information… just savior complex things I guess
I feel so relieved that it’s obvious to other people how safe and wholesome The Two Princes Discord is. I was seriously questioning reality there for a moment.
ty for the boost on my tags vent <33 i still do feel like it’s uncomfortable much older adults write rupert & amir smut but i’m too scared to talk abt it on tumblr bc of what happened in the discord ): i rlly like making ttp content and i don’t wanna be exiled from the community or anything bc one person wants to get off on teenagers lol
you’re welcome! I love making ttp content and ttp memes too, and I have been silent on my discomfort with some aspects of the discord server/fandom overall for similar reasons. The Two Princes podcast is far from perfect, but one of the main reasons I fell in love with it was because of the main theme on how queer love is intrinsically good and powerful. I’ve made many a post discussing the nuances in the writing for both rumir and jecily and how many of the themes for both mirror the important foundational values every healthy relationship requires. I love the idea that these two kids can throw away the propaganda they’ve been fed and expectations on their shoulders and choose love. I was also incredibly impressed with the fact that such a blatantly queer podcast was greenlit with the target audience being children. If there had been something like this when I was in middle school, I would feel a lot more secure in my identity today. But I digress.
The argument has been had on tumblr a thousand times over on the intersection between adult content and children’s media, and I really don’t care to get into it again. But, as a minor, there have been some works in the fandom that have made me uncomfortable. It’s not that adult content was made for certain characters, it was the framing of such content and the syntax associated was very reminiscent of fetishized mlm content. In addition, there are certain circles of the fandom that are very adult-dominated, and, because of that, I have kept my distance from due to the language used in discussing relationships in the show. Of course, this is the Internet, and I have no authority to police the content others make. Yet, it has made me uncomfortable.
Because the fan base for this podcast is so small, and the sizes of such adult-dominated spaces are so large, I’ve been afraid to voice my concerns regarding the blatant sexualition and feminization of certain characters for adult pleasure. But, if this fandom were to ever gain a bigger following and include more minors, it’s a concern that needs addressing now. I have no urge to engage in tumblr drama with anyone about what I’ve discussed. But to pretend that it doesn’t exist will only serve to exclude future fans, queer or not.
In short, I’m glad you raised the concerns in your vent tag, because it’s made me feel less alone in having this issues with the fandom. I’m glad someone agrees that there is content that needs to be addressed.
I’d like to address this as the admin of the discord server. Adult content is now and always has been limited to adult only channels on the server. In response to this criticism, we split the adult channels up so that sexualized content is only available on one channel in our adult only category. We who moderate @thecastleoftheheartland wish there was a way to automatically filter these things out on AO3. But we also share a similar position to the Archive. As long as the adult content is properly tagged (and in our server, only shared in one adults only channel) and the reader is forewarned, that’s as far as we’re comfortable moderating other people’s content. Curate your own experience as best you can. This fandom isn’t adult-dominated, the server itself is closer to 75% under 18 (if not, more) and we take that responsibility seriously.
In the interest of providing a way to enjoy TTPP content on AO3, I created this link to automatically give you everything except rated E and M fanfics.
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i hesitated making a direct response to this post because i didn’t want to start any drama at all but i honestly feel that this isn’t something that can just be brushed over with a far-too tailored statement from the discord staff.
the critiques made by me and by callmefitz were not regarding how adult content is handled in the fandom. like i said in my reblog (which you liked, so you’ve obviously read despite not responding directly to it), i actually admire how vigilant everyone is in tagging fics and keeping adult content to the adult channels. my critiques were more focused on how this content is produced.
my stance is, and always has been, ttp smut is morally wrong. rupert and amir are barely-legal adults, and still teenagers. they have the minds of teenagers, and have never been in a relationship besides each other. they have barely experienced adult life- heck, rupert hadn’t even ever left his castle by the events of the first season.
not only are you writing mlm smut when you (very obviously, by the way you tastelessly portray them) are not a member of that community, but you are writing smut of children. you are in your thirties.
i don’t know how to explain to you that just because someone is technically legal doesn’t make them okay to fetishize. the counterarguments that have arisen from this discussion in the discord were that people just age them up, but again, i don’t know how to explain to you that that doesn’t erase the fact that they’re seventeen and eighteen in the podcast and is therefore morally wrong.
you claim you want to protect the children and that’s why no one can say fuck outside of the adults-only channels and then you turn around and write smut of characters much younger than you. you don’t really want to protect the children.
our goal for starting this discussion was not to say “put stronger child-barriers on things,” it was to say “holy fucking shit stop writing porn of children!” the discussion regarding this type of content being so accessible to minors was only a small bit of this conversation and it was mentioned as a side effect of the fandom being so small, not as a fault of you. however, there are serious critiques i have for you, as outlined above.
please don’t message me. please don’t try and talk to me. get a different hobby, please, or go back to your sanders sides foot fetish fanfiction.
yes, the user has control over their own fandom space, but the original poster has control over whether or not they write fetishizey smut fanfiction about barely-legal members of a minority they aren’t in. or do you? because it doesn’t seem like it from the way this response is worded.
I promised myself I wouldn’t reply directly either but here we are.
How DARE you.
How DARE you accuse someone of writing child pornography.
How DARE you accuse this person who takes every precaution to make sure that children are safe in the discord server, of not wanting to protect children.
We heard you. We listened to your complaints in the discord. We tried to talk to you about it.
But you want to know what?
We also heard you telling us that writing smut for the ttpp characters is wrong, full stop. You’re still clinging to that.
We also heard you telling us that we shouldn’t write outside of our own experiences. As if that’s not a form of dangerous gatekeeping. (And also, you cannot tell just from ‘how tastelessly someone writes’ whether they’re part of a community. That’s not your call to make. Stop assuming you know people’s experiences.)
We heard you say that you don’t care what other people think. That obviously still holds.
Is it lonely up there, on your high holy pedestal? Do you feel bigger now that you’re obviously so much better than us?
I could tell you something. I could tell you that I write smut for Rupert and Amir and I’m not even an ‘older adult,’ as you had put in the server. I’m just a little older than them, myself. I could tell you that I’m questioning my gender identity, and writing about every aspect of Rupert and Amir’s lives - even the sexual parts - is helping me figure it out.
I could tell you so much, but you know what? It’s none of your goddamn business. That is what this ultimately boils down to. It’s none of your goddamn motherfucking business who I am. You are not entitled to know what I write or why.
I don’t understand why you’ve decided that this is the hill you wish to die on. I don’t understand all of this fascination everyone has with purity and morals on tumblr.com all of a sudden. I don’t understand why fanfiction, of all things, suddenly needs to be moral and pure, when it is supposed to be one of the best and safest places for people to figure shit out.
It needs to be a safe place for everyone, and THAT is the point we’ve been trying to make. That’s the point we’ve ALL been trying to make. Becoming an adult doesn’t suddenly mean that you’re no longer entitled to safety on the internet.
But then? Toxic people come along and decide that we’re all filthy monsters for writing smut. Smut between two characters who are not only legally adults, but also treated like adults for the majority of the podcast.
Look, I could get into the nuances of why it’s alright - because really, it is alright - to write smut between Rupert and Amir. I could list all of the reasons because let’s face it, we all know they’re young. We’re not blind to the fact that they’re eighteen. And there’s another person I’ve spoken with this about who is also an adult. A moment of “hmm. They’d be in college about now, huh? Is it okay?”
Yes.
It’s okay.
You know why?
Because these are fictional characters.
These are fictional characters in a fictional world in a fictional setting.
The creator of these fictional characters makes sex jokes about them too, and he’s in his 30s. You gonna come after him? Hell, he’s mentioned that he’s read some of the smut and he hasn’t complained once.
But you know what? It doesn’t matter what I say. You’re probably not going to read all of this. You didn’t listen when we tried to talk to you in the server. You’re not going to listen now. So I guess this isn’t even for you.
This is for me. This is for me, who you made scared for a few hot seconds because I got flashbacks to the days of fanfiction.net and worried that my stuff was going to get purged. This is for me, who you made feel legitimately guilty for writing a fictional thing between two consenting adults. Yes they are adults. No that’s not up for debate. Yes there’s a fucking difference between writing smut and fetishizing people. No I’m not filthy.
This is for Tam. This is for Tam who does a damn good job keeping the discord safe for children. That includes banning child pornography. That also includes saying fuck outside of the adults section. That also includes keeping smut in the adults section. Tam isn’t as close to Rupert and Amir in age as I am but they can still write whatever the fuck they want. No one gets a say in that. This isn’t 1984. (And for the record, not tasteless writing. Good writing.)
This is for everyone else in the server that I’m not going to name (because they’re not directly involved in this convo and I don’t have their consent). This is for the people that also began to feel doubt because of this. Who felt shame. Who felt fear. Who felt anger or rage or sadness or hopelessness.
I am reblogging this with this long-ass response, at 2:46 AM, on my very own ttpp blog because I am so goddamn tired of this kind of discourse.
Stop trying to control what other people write and you will be much happier. Learn to let things go and stop harassing people. (Yeah, you did start this one. Don’t fuck with me on this.)
You are not the judge. Or the jury. And although I’m sure you’d love it, you’re not the executioner.
Also,,, liking something in fiction? Not the same as condoning it in real life. Otherwise I think like 99% of all content creators would be in jail for one thing or another.
You can disagree with whether something is morally acceptable. I frankly don’t care. But don’t come after people who are just trying to have a good time on this shitty, shitty planet, in a way that isn’t hurting anyone (DID YOU KNOW THAT EXPLORING THINGS IN FICTION IS HEALTHIER THAN EXPLORING THINGS IN REAL LIFE).
But hey, a word of warning. Be careful up there on your high horse because it’s a long way down.
I hesitate to add to this because I know I’m going to work myself up and I know that anyone who spends two seconds in the TTP fandom or in the Discord server know that it’s not some adult-ruled child-porn hellhole like Doge is trying to paint it. It’s mostly kids discussing what instruments the characters would play and who would knit and who would crochet and what would it be like if they had met when they were kids and their parents were all friends. I love the space we have to just play and imagine about the characters we love. I love how we fuel each other and create some incredible ideas together. I love how supportive everyone is. That’s probably why this one person’s rhetoric really knocks me back.
So I’m not going to come in here and make a huge argument about how our space is portrayed by this one person is wrong, because that would be a waste of time. Anyone who loves these characters should join us. It’s so fun.
This isn’t about The Two Princes. This is about art, and gatekeeping, and shaming, and feeling ashamed.
I want to let all the people reading this exchange and feeling ashamed of the things they like know that you’re okay. It’s okay to be a straight girl and enjoy mlm romances. It’s okay to be an adult and enjoy stories about teenagers. Hell, it’s okay to be an adult and like smutty stories about teenagers. That might ick some people out but honestly making and consuming art is how we make sense of OURSELVES, it doesn’t have anything to do with other people. If something speaks to you, explore it! I can’t think of a safer way to do that than through fan fic. Don’t let anyone make you feel ashamed for the feelings you have. We’re all humans trying to figure out how to be humans in this messy world.
And I’m sure we’re all aware that the thoughts in our head have nothing to do with the actions we take in real life. You can enjoy reading smut about fictional people who are different than you and go out into real life and interact with real people who fit that catagory and not be a creep. Because fictional people are different than real people.
I’d really like to come in here and list my qualifications for making these statements. Tell you a little bit about myself, my story, my gender, my age, what I do in real life, the kinds of people I’ve had real life experience loving and being loved by. But I agree with Jaque. It shouldn’t matter.
It is my firm belief that Hieronymus/Lord Chamberlain has been the single most important father figur in Rupert's life. This man watched Rupert grow up and understood along the way that they were similar. And I believe that despite the stress of working under Queen Lavinia (Cause as much as we love our queen, it was a really toxic work environment), he bared it and continued serving the royal family anyway.
He went through all that just so Rupert would have someone beside him who understood what he was going through. That one day the prince would have to make a choice like Hieronymus did all those years ago. Cause he knew about the prophecy and he knew that Rupert could not face whatever challenges the forest might have for the prince if he wasn't true to himself.
And I can only imagine what immense joy he must have felt to know that after 18 years, Rupert finally made his choice and stayed true to himself by marrying the love of his life despite what the world threw against him. That Rupert had the courage to love, changing the world they lived in forever.
What a good dad!
Hieronymus is the kind of father figur I think we all need in life 😭😭😭
Wenceslaus : "Trick or treat!!"
Rupert : *Dies from cuteness*
Amir : ".... what... what are you?"
Wenceslaus : "I'M LITTLE RED RIDING HOOD BUT A PIRATE!!"
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Chapter 2 is up and it’s all about Percy Jr!
Chapters: 2/? Fandom: The Two Princes (Podcast) Rating: Teen And Up Audiences Warnings: No Archive Warnings Apply Relationships: Percy Jr/Rupert (Two Princes Podcast), Amir/Rupert (Two Princes Podcast) Characters: Percy Jr. (Two Princes Podcast), Rupert (Two Princes Podcast), Amir (Two Princes Podcast), Percy Snr. (Two Princes Podcast), Lavinia (Two Princes Podcast) Additional Tags: Introspection, Flashbacks, POV Alternating, Growing Up Together, Crushes, What it means to be a real man, Internalized Homophobia, Kids being mean to eachother, Xenophobia, Angst, Rupert is about 6 months older than Percy, Percy doesn't have a canon age, But I thought Id call it out in case you hc him as a lot younger and freaked about the ship, Marriage of Convenience, Arranged Marriage Summary:
"Percy, I'm going into the forest. Tonight." "Rupert - don't. You'll never make it. Besides, you shouldn't even have to." "I have to try. Please. Come with me." "What?" "Come with me. Please. I need you." "What? Why?" "Because... I love you."
Or, what would happen if Percy and Rupert were childhood friends who fell in love with each other before Rupert left for the forest, but Rupert realizes that the only way to break the curse is to marry another man?
Updates on Saturdays.
Chapter 2 is up and it’s all about Percy Jr!
I am beyond ready for this royal wedding