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@conformitygate
my epilogue
FINN WOLFHARD & NOAH SCHNAPP One Last Adventure.
Me and the object im trying to pick up while my nail polish is still drying
wait carlton wasnât even wearing the key necklace in the finale tf đ first they removed willâs ear piercing and then now they removed the symbolism of his r/s with carlton
the concept of michael wheeler witnessing chappell roan perform âgood luck, babe!â at the vmas in full paladin drag
chat is chance jasonâs age or lucasâ age đ i thought he was jasonâs age and jason was a year older than the party??? whyâs chance at the class of 89 graduation
still hung up on the fact that mike couldnât say ily back to el đ if the end goal was to make mike yearn for el forever the directors should at least have let him say ily back đ it would have been much more poetic
was s5e7 actually titled the paladin and the cleric or was that a fake fan leak? cos if it was actually called that at first then iâd believe byler was the original plan all along and they got switched up on
Max and Will go to basketball practices jsut to stare at Lucas and Chance
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honestly if they werenât going to make byler canon they could have introduced another love interest for will earlier on because my main concern about byler and willâs epilogue bf is that the epilogue bf is never gonna understand or believe whatever will went through đ would it have been so hard to introduce a love interest for will who goes to their school and befriended will and then eventually got roped into discovering the upside down etc đ like if mr clarke can randomly join their team so can other people
conformitygate would actually be such a cool concept. alternatively, instead of releasing a new ep, they could start slowly editing the finale (theyâre capable of doing this as seen through them removing the under armor logo on steve or dustinâs sleeve) so that new scenes are included
same character
- 80s
- in love with best friend
- best friend dated/is dating the characterâs sister
i fully believe in conformitygate but i donât want to because ik itâs not gonna happen
honestly, lots of people dismiss the idea that mike wheeler is queer coded & they say that itâs a result of shipping byler. but even without byler, mike is still incredibly queer coded.
some general thoughts:
1. why canât he say ily to el? mike is portrayed to be a character who isnât very connected to his emotions but wasnât the whole âfrom mikeâ letter saga in s4 already addressing that? in the finaleâs void scene HE WAS NEVER GONNA SEE EL AGAIN and he still couldnât say it back?
2. if the directors were truly adamant about going down the route of el sacrificing herself and mike having to be an eternal yearner, why couldnât they have established mileven more during vol1 and 2 of s5 so mikeâs yearning would make sense? having mileven not kiss at all and act awkward around each other does nothing to the plot except bait byler supporters. and having mike still be hung up on elâs death after 18 months while hopper doesnât seem sad at all does NOT make sense. season 1 mileven was really cute, if they kept that up, yearner!mike would be so bittersweet and tastefully done
3. saw an interview about the void scene and it not being real but if it was, why would el choose to communicate with mike and not idk? hopperđ. or even will! millie herself has said that will understands el more than mike does
4. epilogue boyfriend.. i wasnât a byler shipper before, but after watching the entire show, i honestly think that byler was the only acceptable way to end willâs story. the epilogue bf/carlton wouldnât understand the stuff will has been through as much as mike would, and leaving will single until the end would just be cruel.
5. what was the point of the whole âsignalsâ talk between will and robin? and letâs say will noticed that mike wasnât reciprocating the signals and will wanted to get over him, there is NO way will managed to accomplish that in the span of like 3 days. reducing his feelings to a âcrushâ when he genuinely loved mike is insane
6. will could have been written as gay and having a crush on any random guy, it being mike does nothing for the plotline if byler wasnât going to be canon
7. heroes in the credits. no comment.
8. i guess the âone wayâ sign to mikeâs closet represents the fact that heâs forever going to be in there đ
9. honestly after vol1 came out i was pretty confused and didnât ship byler because i thought they were going to develop mileven and i didnât know how they were gonna break them up just for byler. but THEN they didnât even bother developing mileven đ
10. when the fuck was the painting gonna be addressed? and patty newby? and the fact that henry went to school with all the parents? and the suitcase guy in the cave was honestly super random
11. repeating the same point but.. âmike had a gf for 4 seasons heâs not gay!â well yes that would make sense if he actually acted like he liked his gf, as i said before i genuinely think season 1 mileven was really cute. and again tons of people date someone of the opposite gender for many years before realizing thatâs not what theyâre into and vice versa
12. max throwing and breaking stuff during the epilogue dnd game CAUGHT ME OFF GUARD. flashback to that scene where billy said that he would break stuff and max has said before that she wouldnât ever want to be like him. were the duffer brothers trying to prove that you canât escape the cycle with this or?? really really weird
13. nancyâs hair cut like karen and mike looking exactly like ted
14. why was mike lobotomized omg.. finnâs acting threw me off sometimes but heâs a good actor in other shows so the script has to be what restricted him
15. mike realizing that will had a crush on him was never directly addressed.
by now i think fans of both stranger things and percy jackson have realized the similarities between will byers & nico di angelo, hereâs why nicoâs story was 50x better:
1. nicoâs âepilogue boyfriendâ (will solace) was fleshed out and fully developed. even without tsats and cotd, will solace was already an established character in the series and an interaction with nico was already shown
2. it actually makes sense that nico wouldnât end up with percy due to the age gap, and also bc nico and percyâs relationship was more of idol worship and less of any romantic undertones whereas byler had so many parallels to other ships and MIKE AND WILL ARE BEST FRIENDS.
3. percy was shown to be in a loving r/s with annabeth so percy x nico could never happen, whereas all mileven scenes in s5 vol 1 and 2 had no flavor and made many people think that they had broken up already hence clearing the path for byler
4. both characters are severely traumatized and from an outdated time period where chances are low that theyâd find true acceptance, but nico managed to do it and will byers was only shown a possibility of it?? like ffs i donât want to believe the âcarlton is mikeâs ocâ but if thatâs true and mike was just telling stories about their potential endings then damn it will byers actually gets nothing?
honestly, lots of people dismiss the idea that mike wheeler is queer coded & they say that itâs a result of shipping byler. but even without byler, mike is still incredibly queer coded.
some general thoughts:
1. why canât he say ily to el? mike is portrayed to be a character who isnât very connected to his emotions but wasnât the whole âfrom mikeâ letter saga in s4 already addressing that? in the finaleâs void scene HE WAS NEVER GONNA SEE EL AGAIN and he still couldnât say it back?
2. if the directors were truly adamant about going down the route of el sacrificing herself and mike having to be an eternal yearner, why couldnât they have established mileven more during vol1 and 2 of s5 so mikeâs yearning would make sense? having mileven not kiss at all and act awkward around each other does nothing to the plot except bait byler supporters. and having mike still be hung up on elâs death after 18 months while hopper doesnât seem sad at all does NOT make sense. season 1 mileven was really cute, if they kept that up, yearner!mike would be so bittersweet and tastefully done
3. saw an interview about the void scene and it not being real but if it was, why would el choose to communicate with mike and not idk? hopperđ. or even will! millie herself has said that will understands el more than mike does
4. epilogue boyfriend.. i wasnât a byler shipper before, but after watching the entire show, i honestly think that byler was the only acceptable way to end willâs story. the epilogue bf/carlton wouldnât understand the stuff will has been through as much as mike would, and leaving will single until the end would just be cruel.
5. what was the point of the whole âsignalsâ talk between will and robin? and letâs say will noticed that mike wasnât reciprocating the signals and will wanted to get over him, there is NO way will managed to accomplish that in the span of like 3 days. reducing his feelings to a âcrushâ when he genuinely loved mike is insane
6. will could have been written as gay and having a crush on any random guy, it being mike does nothing for the plotline if byler wasnât going to be canon
7. heroes in the credits. no comment.
8. i guess the âone wayâ sign to mikeâs closet represents the fact that heâs forever going to be in there đ
9. honestly after vol1 came out i was pretty confused and didnât ship byler because i thought they were going to develop mileven and i didnât know how they were gonna break them up just for byler. but THEN they didnât even bother developing mileven đ
10. when the fuck was the painting gonna be addressed? and patty newby? and the fact that henry went to school with all the parents? and the suitcase guy in the cave was honestly super random
11. repeating the same point but.. âmike had a gf for 4 seasons heâs not gay!â well yes that would make sense if he actually acted like he liked his gf, as i said before i genuinely think season 1 mileven was really cute. and again tons of people date someone of the opposite gender for many years before realizing thatâs not what theyâre into and vice versa
12. max throwing and breaking stuff during the epilogue dnd game CAUGHT ME OFF GUARD. flashback to that scene where billy said that he would break stuff and max has said before that she wouldnât ever want to be like him. were the duffer brothers trying to prove that you canât escape the cycle with this or?? really really weird
13. nancyâs hair cut like karen and mike looking exactly like ted
14. why was mike lobotomized omg.. finnâs acting threw me off sometimes but heâs a good actor in other shows so the script has to be what restricted him
15. mike realizing that will had a crush on him was never directly addressed.