[kidovna]

my epilogue

[schnappsource]

FINN WOLFHARD & NOAH SCHNAPP One Last Adventure.

[0-summersun-0]

Me and the object im trying to pick up while my nail polish is still drying

[conformitygate]

wait carlton wasn’t even wearing the key necklace in the finale tf 😭 first they removed will’s ear piercing and then now they removed the symbolism of his r/s with carlton

[catinnoodlez]

the concept of michael wheeler witnessing chappell roan perform “good luck, babe!” at the vmas in full paladin drag

[conformitygate]

chat is chance jason’s age or lucas’ age 💀 i thought he was jason’s age and jason was a year older than the party??? why’s chance at the class of 89 graduation

[conformitygate]

still hung up on the fact that mike couldn’t say ily back to el 💀 if the end goal was to make mike yearn for el forever the directors should at least have let him say ily back 😭 it would have been much more poetic

[conformitygate]

was s5e7 actually titled the paladin and the cleric or was that a fake fan leak? cos if it was actually called that at first then i’d believe byler was the original plan all along and they got switched up on

[unicorns-are-so-real]

Max and Will go to basketball practices jsut to stare at Lucas and Chance

[you-didnt-have-to]

akhdjargjakaejdkahauyegaj

[conformitygate]

honestly if they weren’t going to make byler canon they could have introduced another love interest for will earlier on because my main concern about byler and will’s epilogue bf is that the epilogue bf is never gonna understand or believe whatever will went through 😭 would it have been so hard to introduce a love interest for will who goes to their school and befriended will and then eventually got roped into discovering the upside down etc 💀 like if mr clarke can randomly join their team so can other people

[conformitygate]

conformitygate would actually be such a cool concept. alternatively, instead of releasing a new ep, they could start slowly editing the finale (they’re capable of doing this as seen through them removing the under armor logo on steve or dustin’s sleeve) so that new scenes are included

[conformitygate]

same character

- 80s

- in love with best friend

- best friend dated/is dating the character’s sister

[conformitygate]

i fully believe in conformitygate but i don’t want to because ik it’s not gonna happen

[conformitygate]

honestly, lots of people dismiss the idea that mike wheeler is queer coded & they say that it’s a result of shipping byler. but even without byler, mike is still incredibly queer coded.

some general thoughts:

1. why can’t he say ily to el? mike is portrayed to be a character who isn’t very connected to his emotions but wasn’t the whole ‘from mike’ letter saga in s4 already addressing that? in the finale’s void scene HE WAS NEVER GONNA SEE EL AGAIN and he still couldn’t say it back?

2. if the directors were truly adamant about going down the route of el sacrificing herself and mike having to be an eternal yearner, why couldn’t they have established mileven more during vol1 and 2 of s5 so mike’s yearning would make sense? having mileven not kiss at all and act awkward around each other does nothing to the plot except bait byler supporters. and having mike still be hung up on el’s death after 18 months while hopper doesn’t seem sad at all does NOT make sense. season 1 mileven was really cute, if they kept that up, yearner!mike would be so bittersweet and tastefully done

3. saw an interview about the void scene and it not being real but if it was, why would el choose to communicate with mike and not idk? hopper😭. or even will! millie herself has said that will understands el more than mike does

4. epilogue boyfriend.. i wasn’t a byler shipper before, but after watching the entire show, i honestly think that byler was the only acceptable way to end will’s story. the epilogue bf/carlton wouldn’t understand the stuff will has been through as much as mike would, and leaving will single until the end would just be cruel.

5. what was the point of the whole ‘signals’ talk between will and robin? and let’s say will noticed that mike wasn’t reciprocating the signals and will wanted to get over him, there is NO way will managed to accomplish that in the span of like 3 days. reducing his feelings to a ‘crush’ when he genuinely loved mike is insane

6. will could have been written as gay and having a crush on any random guy, it being mike does nothing for the plotline if byler wasn’t going to be canon

7. heroes in the credits. no comment.

8. i guess the ‘one way’ sign to mike’s closet represents the fact that he’s forever going to be in there 😭

9. honestly after vol1 came out i was pretty confused and didn’t ship byler because i thought they were going to develop mileven and i didn’t know how they were gonna break them up just for byler. but THEN they didn’t even bother developing mileven 😭

10. when the fuck was the painting gonna be addressed? and patty newby? and the fact that henry went to school with all the parents? and the suitcase guy in the cave was honestly super random

11. repeating the same point but.. “mike had a gf for 4 seasons he’s not gay!” well yes that would make sense if he actually acted like he liked his gf, as i said before i genuinely think season 1 mileven was really cute. and again tons of people date someone of the opposite gender for many years before realizing that’s not what they’re into and vice versa

12. max throwing and breaking stuff during the epilogue dnd game CAUGHT ME OFF GUARD. flashback to that scene where billy said that he would break stuff and max has said before that she wouldn’t ever want to be like him. were the duffer brothers trying to prove that you can’t escape the cycle with this or?? really really weird

13. nancy’s hair cut like karen and mike looking exactly like ted

14. why was mike lobotomized omg.. finn’s acting threw me off sometimes but he’s a good actor in other shows so the script has to be what restricted him

15. mike realizing that will had a crush on him was never directly addressed.

[conformitygate]

by now i think fans of both stranger things and percy jackson have realized the similarities between will byers & nico di angelo, here’s why nico’s story was 50x better:

1. nico’s ‘epilogue boyfriend’ (will solace) was fleshed out and fully developed. even without tsats and cotd, will solace was already an established character in the series and an interaction with nico was already shown

2. it actually makes sense that nico wouldn’t end up with percy due to the age gap, and also bc nico and percy’s relationship was more of idol worship and less of any romantic undertones whereas byler had so many parallels to other ships and MIKE AND WILL ARE BEST FRIENDS.

3. percy was shown to be in a loving r/s with annabeth so percy x nico could never happen, whereas all mileven scenes in s5 vol 1 and 2 had no flavor and made many people think that they had broken up already hence clearing the path for byler

4. both characters are severely traumatized and from an outdated time period where chances are low that they’d find true acceptance, but nico managed to do it and will byers was only shown a possibility of it?? like ffs i don’t want to believe the ‘carlton is mike’s oc’ but if that’s true and mike was just telling stories about their potential endings then damn it will byers actually gets nothing?

[conformitygate]

honestly, lots of people dismiss the idea that mike wheeler is queer coded & they say that it’s a result of shipping byler. but even without byler, mike is still incredibly queer coded.

some general thoughts:

1. why can’t he say ily to el? mike is portrayed to be a character who isn’t very connected to his emotions but wasn’t the whole ‘from mike’ letter saga in s4 already addressing that? in the finale’s void scene HE WAS NEVER GONNA SEE EL AGAIN and he still couldn’t say it back?

2. if the directors were truly adamant about going down the route of el sacrificing herself and mike having to be an eternal yearner, why couldn’t they have established mileven more during vol1 and 2 of s5 so mike’s yearning would make sense? having mileven not kiss at all and act awkward around each other does nothing to the plot except bait byler supporters. and having mike still be hung up on el’s death after 18 months while hopper doesn’t seem sad at all does NOT make sense. season 1 mileven was really cute, if they kept that up, yearner!mike would be so bittersweet and tastefully done

3. saw an interview about the void scene and it not being real but if it was, why would el choose to communicate with mike and not idk? hopper😭. or even will! millie herself has said that will understands el more than mike does

4. epilogue boyfriend.. i wasn’t a byler shipper before, but after watching the entire show, i honestly think that byler was the only acceptable way to end will’s story. the epilogue bf/carlton wouldn’t understand the stuff will has been through as much as mike would, and leaving will single until the end would just be cruel.

5. what was the point of the whole ‘signals’ talk between will and robin? and let’s say will noticed that mike wasn’t reciprocating the signals and will wanted to get over him, there is NO way will managed to accomplish that in the span of like 3 days. reducing his feelings to a ‘crush’ when he genuinely loved mike is insane

6. will could have been written as gay and having a crush on any random guy, it being mike does nothing for the plotline if byler wasn’t going to be canon

7. heroes in the credits. no comment.

8. i guess the ‘one way’ sign to mike’s closet represents the fact that he’s forever going to be in there 😭

9. honestly after vol1 came out i was pretty confused and didn’t ship byler because i thought they were going to develop mileven and i didn’t know how they were gonna break them up just for byler. but THEN they didn’t even bother developing mileven 😭

10. when the fuck was the painting gonna be addressed? and patty newby? and the fact that henry went to school with all the parents? and the suitcase guy in the cave was honestly super random

11. repeating the same point but.. “mike had a gf for 4 seasons he’s not gay!” well yes that would make sense if he actually acted like he liked his gf, as i said before i genuinely think season 1 mileven was really cute. and again tons of people date someone of the opposite gender for many years before realizing that’s not what they’re into and vice versa

12. max throwing and breaking stuff during the epilogue dnd game CAUGHT ME OFF GUARD. flashback to that scene where billy said that he would break stuff and max has said before that she wouldn’t ever want to be like him. were the duffer brothers trying to prove that you can’t escape the cycle with this or?? really really weird

13. nancy’s hair cut like karen and mike looking exactly like ted

14. why was mike lobotomized omg.. finn’s acting threw me off sometimes but he’s a good actor in other shows so the script has to be what restricted him

15. mike realizing that will had a crush on him was never directly addressed.