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[creature-wizard]

A problem with a bunch of these modern spiritual movements (such as New Age) that attempted to "unite" science and spirituality, is that they didn't really understand science, like, on any level.

The people who founded and influenced these movements basically always had a surface level of science as understood in their day. They didn't really understand the discoveries they were incorporating into their beliefs, let alone have the faintest inking of what scientists of the day were currently wrong about. Their comprehension of evolution, electromagnetism, and chemistry is always appallingly poor. They aren't "uniting" science and spirituality, so much as using sciency-sounding words to frame and justify a bunch of stuff they already wanted to believe in.

And that's another thing, the people in these movements just aren't willing to actually do science. They aren't willing to use the scientific method to formulate experiments that could lend credence to their claims, even though there's no reason why they couldn't. Like for example, many people believe that literally anything up to and including whole books can be channeled from the Akashic Records, but nobody's really willing to try and see if anyone can channel the full text of known books like Anna Karenina, or even a local phone book.

Occasionally you might see them referring to someone who supposedly performed an experiment with incredibly spiritually significant implications, but no one's trying to find out exactly how they did it so they can replicate their results and test it for themselves - or even improve upon the experiment with a better-controlled environment, or having an actual control sample. It's pretty much always "this guy did an experiment, there was an astonishing result, we're accepting it as spiritual truth now."

If anyone does actually conduct an experiment, and the results are less then stellar, it won't be taken into consideration by the larger community; the experimenter will be dismissed as a government plant, or the failure will be rationalized away with "their vibrational frequency wasn't high enough" or something equally unfalsifiable.

The thing about science is, it's not a thing that you have. It's a thing that you do. And you aren't "uniting spirituality and science" if none of you are willing to actually do science, and accept results that fail to confirm what you really hoped to be true. You're simply appropriating the aesthetic of science so you can try and pretend you're not just as rigid and dogmatic as the major Christian institutions you complain about.

Meanwhile, actually doing science and accepting the results even when they're disappointing would mean learning one of the most profound spiritual lessons of all: that the world doesn't always revolve around you and what you want.

[craftugmruh]

Only the ignorant will have this audacity. A lot of people who are into spirituality have earlier background in science. This is a very superficial view of the movement (I won't even call it that but for the sake of discussion) and cherrypicking only what's easy to to reach. I hope you do further research because you are doing exactly what you're fighting against. What criteria did you set to make these particular set of people as the representative? Why are you isolating people from the field of science that actually see the very edge as spirituality? This is the same old, same old argument that people with similar beliefs make. It's built on wobbly ground and can easily be contested

[creature-wizard]

I dunno friend, the more I do my research the more I find that even the people with supposed "scientific backgrounds" are sketchy as hell. We have a bunch of people whose "scientific backgrounds" don't even remotely qualify them to speak on topics they present themselves as experts on (EG, having a degree in sociology doesn't qualify you to speak on geology, genetics, etc.), and people who... might have studied, but if they did they were extremely uncommitted to it because there's a bunch of stuff they should be aware of, but aren't. Or sometimes we have people appealing to scientists who lived 50-100 years ago, whose ideas are completely out of date now. Or other equally sketchy, shady things going on.

Seriously though, people like you keep telling me to do "more research" and the deeper I dig the worse and worse it always gets. I really wonder at which point I'm supposed to hit gold here, because I've been at this for quite some time, and it's all been bullshit all the way down.

[craftugmruh]

That's why I am asking who did you choose to represent the movement and why did you choose them? It's in your own quality of discernment that shapes your general view of a field. Everyone can be something that's a given, as long as you have the necessary resources you can be anything. That doesn't mean all doctors that call themselves a doctor are the same and all writers that call themselves a writer are the same. Would you say that Stephenie Meyer and whoever people deem as mediocre as the exemplar of writing? A person who loves sports and doesn't really read might think books are cheesy time-wasters because he grew up surrounded by sisters who only read romance. But let's take it up a notch since you said you've been doing research. Only people who are within the field practing the craft for years, can have the discernment who is its exemplar. You are an outsider, how exactly did you decide this? Let's say you have mastered science, what exactly do you know about spirituality?

[creature-wizard]

A problem with a bunch of these modern spiritual movements (such as New Age) that attempted to "unite" science and spirituality, is that they didn't really understand science, like, on any level.

The people who founded and influenced these movements basically always had a surface level of science as understood in their day. They didn't really understand the discoveries they were incorporating into their beliefs, let alone have the faintest inking of what scientists of the day were currently wrong about. Their comprehension of evolution, electromagnetism, and chemistry is always appallingly poor. They aren't "uniting" science and spirituality, so much as using sciency-sounding words to frame and justify a bunch of stuff they already wanted to believe in.

And that's another thing, the people in these movements just aren't willing to actually do science. They aren't willing to use the scientific method to formulate experiments that could lend credence to their claims, even though there's no reason why they couldn't. Like for example, many people believe that literally anything up to and including whole books can be channeled from the Akashic Records, but nobody's really willing to try and see if anyone can channel the full text of known books like Anna Karenina, or even a local phone book.

Occasionally you might see them referring to someone who supposedly performed an experiment with incredibly spiritually significant implications, but no one's trying to find out exactly how they did it so they can replicate their results and test it for themselves - or even improve upon the experiment with a better-controlled environment, or having an actual control sample. It's pretty much always "this guy did an experiment, there was an astonishing result, we're accepting it as spiritual truth now."

If anyone does actually conduct an experiment, and the results are less then stellar, it won't be taken into consideration by the larger community; the experimenter will be dismissed as a government plant, or the failure will be rationalized away with "their vibrational frequency wasn't high enough" or something equally unfalsifiable.

The thing about science is, it's not a thing that you have. It's a thing that you do. And you aren't "uniting spirituality and science" if none of you are willing to actually do science, and accept results that fail to confirm what you really hoped to be true. You're simply appropriating the aesthetic of science so you can try and pretend you're not just as rigid and dogmatic as the major Christian institutions you complain about.

Meanwhile, actually doing science and accepting the results even when they're disappointing would mean learning one of the most profound spiritual lessons of all: that the world doesn't always revolve around you and what you want.

[craftugmruh]

Only the ignorant will have this audacity. A lot of people who are into spirituality have earlier background in science. This is a very superficial view of the movement (I won't even call it that but for the sake of discussion) and cherrypicking only what's easy to to reach. I hope you do further research because you are doing exactly what you're fighting against. What criteria did you set to make these particular set of people as the representative? Why are you isolating people from the field of science that actually see the very edge as spirituality? This is the same old, same old argument that people with similar beliefs make. It's built on wobbly ground and can easily be contested

[homunculus-argument]

I think the great thing about myths and legends is having stories that everyone knows and everyone has heard, so you can reference to them to consicely describe a thing, person or a situation without having to go into all that much detail about what, exactly, went down, because the people around you know how the story went down, and get the vague general idea of the nature of this thing. Someone can make a post on tumblr like "call me Sisyphus, for the 'hand wash only' is my fucking boulder", and you grasp how this person is feeling about their endless task of dishes and laundry.

You might not know what the Cassandra of the Discord server was trying to warn everyone about, but you know roughly how that worked out. You might not know exactly why someone would be named Persephone of the office, but you do know how the person calling her that feels when she's not around. And sometimes, just the name and one word for context illuminates the situation enough that you're glad to be spared further details.

Hentai Icarus.

[craftugmruh]

This is a good explanation of Ne. Thanks!

[maaarine]

MBTI & Celebs

Orna Guralnik: INFJ

“Couples Therapy shows parts of the therapy sessions of three to four couples per season. 

The producers and therapist of the series wanted to show what a therapeutic process actually looks like. 

They didn’t want to show drama to the audiences, but the deep work that real therapy entails.

Dr. Orna Guralnik, the couples therapist, meets her patients for the first time when they enter her practice.”

Sources: video, wiki/Couples_Therapy_(2019_TV_series). Screencaps: transcript.

[funkymbtifiction]

avoiding 6-ness

I used to think 6s would accurately peg themselves pretty fast, simply because I read one Enneagram book and I knew I was a 6. The minute I read 6s want security, I said, “YES.” That had been my entire life’s purpose up until then (and it still is, to be “safe”).

But the more time I spend in the Enneagram community, the more I see the incredible resistance 6s have to owning their type—maybe more so than any other type. This includes various Enneagram teachers who are mistyped (core 6s who think they are 1s and 2s or even 4s). I can’t decide if its’ because 6s get the most hate, or if their ego structure adamantly refuses to admit that the thinking, rethinking, ping-ponging, focusing on what doesn’t fit, deferring to others or authorities, etc, is 6-ness. Being 6s, they probably over-fixate on the “cowardly” aspect of 6, or feel angry or insulted at the idea that they are “thinking repressed” (that sure pissed me off, but then I dug into it and realized it’s true, I think all the time, I just am not SOLVING THE PROBLEM—but that’s something I can fix), or they don’t want to dig into the anguish of owning the label the 6 brings. And I get it, but it also baffles me to see them doing mental flips to explain to themselves and others why they are 1s, 2s, 3s, 4s, 5s, 7s, 8s, or 9s, ANYTHING but 6. I have to think it’s tied to their line to 3, that no 6 regardless of their heart fix wants to identify with “cowardice.” And in that way, it’s unfortunate that 6 is identified with fear. It’s absolutely true, but many 6s don’t seem able to recognize that their frantic thinking, strategizing, and busy mind is all to avoid their own deep-seated insecurities and anxieties. Out of all the types, 9s and 6s have the most trouble finding their type… but it doesn’t feel like 9s care as much what other people think about 9s as 6s care what other people think about 6s. What the 6 doesn’t realize is that their aversion to the 6 is actually their super-ego reacting to being struck to the core; they run away from it, because it’s easier to disown it and identify with something that doesn’t wound them as deeply, not realizing that an actual person of that type would have the same “disgusted” reaction to reading about their core type.

People who “want to be” certain types… aren’t. They are the type they least want to be, because that’s the only one taking a meat cleaver to their tender soul. That’s the point. Once you are willing to see your raw motivations, you can start to free yourself from the box you have locked yourself in all these years. And that’s another thing, it’s the 6s who most adamantly insist nothing fits them, that boxes do not matter, that you can’t explain people with theoretical systems, that nothing is ever quite accurate enough… because that is their 6-ness, rearing its head and reacting against perceived authority. 6s don't want to be pinned down and will argue and question and challenge and come up with excuses and squirm every which way to avoid it -- until it sinks into them that doing that is what makes them 6s. And then there's no choice but to accept the truth.

[craftugmruh]

I disagree with most of her arguments about her typings but this is a good one.

[nebularnomad]

[craftugmruh]

Tilikum's Life Story Will Bring You to Tears - peta2

The shocking truth SeaWorld doesn't want you to know.

This is so unfair. It boils my blood.

[craftugmruh]

Been meaning to watch this show. I keep on being proven that the universe is communicating to me through shows. I mean I am in hermitage, I am isolating myself. How can anyone else reach me? How can universe works its ways The wondrous thing is it does... this is too specific for it to be a coincidence and it didn't just happen a couple of times. I will have an urge to watch something, beyond my lists (i never follow them anyway) and alas, the show perfectly describes what I'm going through atm.

"Death is my greatest reward"

I've been muttering different versions of this since '19.

"Stray Dogs" huh?

Literary personalities mhm?

I am still on the 6th episode so too soon to talk. But the ending song just speaks to me and I read the lyrics he-he-he. I hope it's a real person you send but it makes sense because I'll reject them anyways.

[craftugmruh]

I always thought I was invincible. Never thought the youthful idealism won't reach my 30s.

[craftugmruh]

Let me die, whoever you are.

[craftugmruh]

All I want in life is to die. That's what I truly long for.

[iamfj]

Metaphors

Ne: change Si: permanence Se: perceives space, not time Ni: perceives time, not space NeSi, SiNe: good grasp of space and time SeNi, NiSe: good grasp of change and permanence (In general terms)

[craftugmruh]

Reblogging because this is good stuff!

[craftugmruh]

Trying to retrieve my old tumblr account, my yahoo mail must have been deleted as well. Fml. Just want to document random musings here instead of writing comments no one reads that will eventually be thrusted into oblivion.

I have come to a point where chaos in the physical calms down for a bit and now I have time to actually spend time on building things. This time around, I am focusing on my mind. I wonder if that's even possible...taming it, giving it structure. Finally giving the attention ADHD always wanted. This is how I roll, I've been like this 10++ years ago, there's no more changing it. It's always Ni wanting to get things done--it never sleeps. Effort that no one sees, effort that never reaches the ground except maybe the Gods.

Wonder how it's gonna turn out, building consciously an interiority I never had in the first place. It has always been me working to attend to what's asked of me, whoring myself out for the world's pleasure and enjoyment. I'm a feast completely free and accessible to everyone. Not that people don't have a built-in protector against me. An invisible glass wall exists that's meant to clash. To butt heads with. The only difference is I see them, I hear them, I feel them. No matter how much I extend my hands, my heart, my loins, my entrails out, we will never touch.

That's not speculation, not a mere conjecture. It happened, it's been happening, it always happens, it will keep on happening. It's not a projection of my past. There must be a residue of it that needs cleansing so I need to do it again and again...

I just like to emphasize that I am not a drama queen nor I have ever been an arrogant edgelord. I am a thing that gives and gives and gives and that's how I like it. I am not like you and certainly not like the people you know. Do not clump me with them. The world's reasoning and motivations don't work with me. Ask me questions. That's the only way anyone can get to know me.