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Intro post

Hello and welcome to FunkyMBTIinFiction. We are happy to have you here. This blog is run by co-mods Charity and Rosa. Charity is the head mod behind this Tumblr blog and the Wordpress website. She will be answering your questions and helping you figure out your type. Rosa has an assistant mod role, making sure the Tumblr blog is running smoothly.

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Are ESxPs uninterested in planning or envisioning the future like ExNPs? Is high Se as open as high Ne when it comes to future paths?

Ne constantly envisions a new future every time it thinks about it, in connection to whatever it is involved in right at the moment. So -- wow, I am loving this Yoga class, I could be an instructor > imagines their life doing that. 2 days later, "I really wish I had been a marine biologist, I could be doing XYZ right now."

Se is present and engaged in the moment, and usually has some vague notion that it needs to plan something for the future OR has a future ideal life in the back of their mind, but Life Keeps Getting in the Way, so it's a "someday I'm gonna live on a houseboat" thing.

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Couple of questions about Se+Fi: Are ISFPs ever type 7s? Or all all 7s extroverts? What's a deal breaker if you aren't sure whether you're ESFP or ISFP?

Yes. No.

If someone has to ask if they're extraverted or introverted, they're probably not an introvert.

FiSe: I won't try anything that violates my principles.

SeFi: I find out my principles by trying things.

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I have two questions... again:

One is a particular thing I don't particularly get gut types. From what I've read from a couple sources, it has been mentioned that gut types experience the world through their bodies in a way that makes it seem like they are constantly feeling things in a visceral manner. I remember Rohr saying something like "full body blows", and you writing something about how gut types experience the world akin to an all-out assault through their bodily sensations.... what does that exactly mean really? I can somewhat get an idea out of it but at the same time it's rather hard to imagine how exactly it manifests in real time. Like I get the other aspects of gut types like valuing their autonomy and react to violation via anger, irritation, and frustration (which is why I mistyped as a 9 for a few years beforehand), it's just this particular "full body blows" experience that is described among gut types just sound abstract to me.

The second question is something I noticed between me (6) and my mom (3), specifically about our styles of communication and how we talk. Remember the time I asked you helping me type my mother and you answered that she's a 3, by that point on, it felt like a lot of things clicked and one of the first few things I noticed is her communication style. Most of the time, she obviously talks about work, what she needs to do and getting it done, but outside of that, she also talks about stories/anecdotes of her own past successes and hardships that she got through in life, sharing it as a way of bonding or inspiring us, alongside how other people view her in comparison to how she sees herself (a lot of "I am" phrases that is describing who she is), and a lot of emphasis on people's expressions, feelings, a lot of social stuff basically. Compared to me, who according to her, talks in a rapid pace that apparently it sounds like I am running out if breath and I need to chill out (oddly enough my sister doesn't seem to see it that way), and I do ramble a lot, asking a lot of questions, and apparently I can either go from sounding friendly, polite, and quiet/terse, to suddenly sounding emotional, defensive, and lowkey just complaining (I sometimes don't even see it as complaining and I'm merely just wanting to share my feelings as a way to connect with them). So the question is that do enneagram types in general have some kind of specific communication style on each type? (Or even just the difference between how each of the three centers talk in general?)

Have you ever been in a situation where you got so mad, it felt like you were just in your body and not in your head, in that moment? I did not understand Body Types until I was present in my body, at a time when anger coursed through it in response to something happening in the environment. That is what it is like for them; they are aware of what is going on around them, and their body is reacting to it, so there is a constant “this is happening, and I have to deal with it” physical response (they can numb out with 9 and ignore it, or they can correct it with 1, or they can escalate it as an 8). Be “present” with your anger, notice the physical sensations, and you will have a little more comprehension about what it is like for them to be a Body Type.

(I asked a 9w8 friend “this happened to me… is this what it’s like 24/7 for you?” and she said “Yup, welcome to my life of everyone violating my boundaries and me being mad about it.”)

To answer your second question, yes, you’ve noticed something “real.” Image types often draw attention to themselves and/or push the conversation back to themselves in some way; 2s do it by being loving, or reminding someone of the nice things they’ve done for them; 3s do it by focusing on what they achieved and how they are impressive; 4s do it by reminding you that you can’t understand or relate to them.

Head types discuss things, analyze things, question people, challenge assumptions, collect details, or sometimes, complain (6 and/or 6 wings, mostly, and less so core 5w6s). You’ve picked up on a few 6 traits, yes. Rapid talking, particularly when anxious and trying to fill the silence, complaining about problems (without productively fixing them), and being emotional and defensive when challenged.

Gut types typically have a steadier way of talking; 9s feel very floaty and vague a lot of the time, 1s are direct and cut through the fat, 8s are pretty straightforward.

You “rambling” and talking a lot is probably extroversion + 6 with a 9 fix. 6-9 tends to meander quite a bit, particularly if there’s no high Te involved.

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I've seen a post where you say ENFPs can be 8s and I got curious, since so far I've only seen EXTJs and XSXPs typed as 8s. Have you met ENFPs 8s in real life or only through fiction? I've always seen 8s described as very physical, so how does the 8s motivation manifest through dom Ne?

I knew one in real life, mostly in fiction.

8 is just over-assertive guarding of personal boundaries and autonomy, which is not related to sensing functions. 8 descriptions that over-rely on sensory aspects of 8 are probably talking about ESP 8s. 8 boils down to, I will buck you, you aren't the strongest person here, I am; I won't break if you challenge me, I will argue with you and push back to see if you cave or not; if you don't, I respect you more.

Doesn't really change with Ne that much.

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Thomas Jefferson MBTI & Enneagram | John Adams

A look at Thomas Jefferson as an INTP 5w6: intellectual, reserved, and strategically detached.

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Benjamin Franklin MBTI & Enneagram | John Adams

Discover Benjamin Franklin as an ENTP 7w6, charismatic, witty, and endlessly inventive.

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Also a question, how do you distinguish between cp6 and 8 for characters, especially when they're...let's just say incredibly dysfunctional or outright cruel to others?

To be honest, I would scout around the internet and read everyone's arguments either for dominant 8 or 6, then go back and read profiles about cp 6 and about 8, then ask myself if they are a dominant head type (if all their reactivity and aggression is coming out of fear) or if they are a gut type (not thinking, just aggression and boundary enforcement). CP6s are usually also more suspicious of authority than 8s are, since an 8 won't give that person respect unless it's earned.

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Type and the future

Is every person’s approach to the future decided by their top functions, or do you think is more influenced by Enneagram type? Is it influenced by Ne vs Ni? 

Yes. Ne is flexible and nothing is set in stone; Ni wants a specific future in mind and a way forward and struggles to adapt if the situation does not align with their inner vision or things do not turn out as they planned, since there was no Plan B.

Personally I see no reason to make firm plans for the future as things are always changing and new opportunities are always presenting themselves. I just don’t feel the need to decide what I’m going to do months or years from now. It kinda seems limiting and pointless. That’s how I approach my carrer, I’m enjoying my job now but I’m open to changing it if I come across something more interesting or I stop feeling positive about it. I know I wanna got to collage next year, but which course I’m going to take it’s not set in stone. I have a couple options and who knows, my financial situation might change until then, opening new possibilities. When I was looking for a job it was really hard to choose because I could see both the pros and cons of each option.

This is ENP, probably with an Enneagram 7 core (and probably an easygoing 9 fix in your tritype). Ease of flexibility, don’t want to commit to anything too soon since it could all change down the line. It’s normal for your type. 

But one thing I find funny and want to understand is why envisioning the future for others and for the world comes so naturally, while thinking about my own future holds no appeal? 

It’s because their brain wants structure and a goal post, for them to have a single way forward, and easily finds a vision for their life, and yours is not programmed that way. Intuition can give you insights into others without wanting to commit to a single thing for your own life. Ne is about POTENTIAL. For others, that’s about envisioning what their life MIGHT look like if they made this or that choice; for yourself, it’s going to be open-ended, because tomorrow you will care about a different thing or might discover a new path. 

I’m big on theorizing the consequences of choices and I can easily see the path something/someone is on. So my predictions are usually correct. Of course my prognosis change if I get more info, but cause-consequence is still easy to see. Which is probably I’m rarely surprised both in real life and when watching a film.

Yes, this is how dominant intuition works for all the intutivies. ;)

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How does Ne interact with Fe vs Fi? Does the focus of attention change?

ENTPs want and need approval, praise, and emotional support on some level from those around them and go out of their way to say what they think will get it for them; ENFPs don't and won't, and focus on the completion of their projects instead. ENTPs also assume they can talk their way out of problems and convince people to do what they want done, whereas ENFPs turn into bulldozers in China shops when dealing with incompetence standing in their way.

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E vs I

Is it accurate that extroverted functions are shallower than introverted ones? 

No. “Shallow” is a negative judgment.

Introverted functions are subjective, meaning unique to the person using them, and something enjoyable to ponder within themselves, whereas extraverted functions are objective, meaning they interact with the real world as it exists and then use it as a launching point for action.

And that they are more changeable? 

They are more adaptable to external reality, yes. Think of Se being current on trends, whereas a Si only buys this kind of tennis shoe because they like it, for example. One is “the world has moved on from those shoes I liked, so I’ll find a new pair” and the other is “these shoes have always served me well and are to my taste in things.”

What would being an extrovert vs introvert imply then? 

Extraverts shift with change in the outside world and get on board with it quicker than introverts. They are also attentive to the outside world 24/7, and aware of what is going on around them, emotionally, logically, physically, or intuitively, depending on their dominant function.

Are extroverts more adaptable and realistic, while  introverts more resistant to accepting reality as it is? 

Sometimes, yes. But being realistic is tied to their extraverted functions. An ENFP may be more realistic than an INFP thanks to high Te, but they are also dominant idealists who may not realize the implausibility of executing their ideas in the real world, a problem ETJ and ESPs don’t struggle with. 

As an extrovert what do you notice as a difference between you and the introvert people in your life? 

When something unexpected happens, it takes them longer to process it and to decide what to do, whereas I am pretty fast in adapting to it and changing my plans. I also get a lot more “done” in a short amount of time than they do, thanks to my large energetic resources (assuming sensory stuff is not zapping them; at home, I am a super-charged bundle of energy, and in a busy environment, I am quickly depleted since my sensing function is so low).

What is the role of introversion vs extroversion in self-perception? Are introverts more self-aware? 

They do not seem to be, no. The vast majority of people I have talked to in the typology community were oblivious to their own motivations until they found the Enneagram; most of them did not self-type accurately at first, in that or in MBTI, because their sense of self differed from their actual self. (This is not a negative judgment, just a fact. People will say they are A while they actually are doing B or C all the time.) A handful get themselves right. 

Do you think extrovert have an easier time typing themselves? 

No, if anything they assume they are introverted because they need some down time unless their extraversion is extreme.

What about your readers? Do you notice any pattern in the asks you receive? 

Yes. Most people don’t read the archives before asking something that has been answered many times. ;) I am always being questioned about Si vs Se, Fe vs Fi, Ti vs Te, Ne vs Ni. The top asked thing is probably Fe vs Fi, how to tell them apart, doesn’t everyone do that?, how can I tell which I am, etc. It’s normal, because most people can’t understand until they get deeper into typology systems what inward facing function means and what outward facing function means, and it seems to be hard for them to understand the functions they are not using. I admittedly do not “get” Ti and Fe as well as I grasp Fi and Te. 

What makes a person more world-accepting versus world-rejecting?

Their introverted functions, of which everyone has two. 

 Is idealism a marker of every intuitive or is it related to the judging axis?

It seems to be primarily related to Ne. A lot of NJs I have known were very cynical and had negative views of certain people, thanks to Se being more pragmatic and “this is who they are, I can see them clearly” in a Ni and Se sense, than the idealism of Ne “there are many ways why they may have been mean to me” and Si “we have such history together...”

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George Washington MBTI & Enneagram | John Adams

An analysis of George Washington as an ISTJ 1w9: disciplined, principled, and quietly authoritative.

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How would you most likely type Jules from Superbad (2007)?

I haven't seen it, but given the limited details about her online, she sounds like an emotionally mature EFJ with good boundaries, a lot of compassion for others, and the ability to see the best in them despite their bad or shallow behavior.

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Differences between Se-Te and Te-Se? I have to admit I've been guilty of mistaking competent ESFPs for ENTJs several times in the past. Fi is not always visible in ExFPs so when I see their assertiviness and leadership I can mix these types up.

It's not a big deal if you do, since in the real world it doesn't matter that much. That being said, ESFPs are Se-doms, using Se to competently and instantly leap into sensory activities. Their super power is skill in the world of being hands-on and concrete. ENTJs have Te as their super power; instant logic, organization, and effortless system-building. ENTJs also have a vision they want to enact for their future and a plan about how to make it happen. ESFPs don't have a vision, or their vision is pushed aside to make way for the here and now.

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As a Ne type yourself how do you clock that someone is Ni instead? Is it easy for you to tell which type of intuition someone is using?

Ni goes through every possible inception of something mentally and then chooses the one path forward, so they shoot down everything a Ne type suggests to them on the spot, because it's already been considered and discarded, leaving the Ne feeling as if they have nothing to contribute. I usually tell by the amount of "no, that won't work / that's wrong" on an intuitive level that is happening. Other high Ne types eagerly play with my ideas or riff off them to create something new, and low Ne types are at least "open" to them in a way Ni users aren't.

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Differences between INTJs and ENTJs?

ETJs want to be in charge way more than ITJs, who typically want to focus on their own autonomy and living the life they want, so they create the structure necessary only to do that. ETJs have a broad structure and are easily able to apply it instantly to the real world. They also interact with reality much faster and more efficiently.

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Abigail Adams MBTI & Enneagram | John Adams

Explore Abigail Adams as an ISTJ 1w2. Principled, loyal, and morally grounded in HBO’s John Adams.

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